This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Can i ask on their marriage certificate dose it say if their fathers Joseph and Andrew are still alive or dose it say deceased, you may have seen this but in 1841 Liverpool there is a Mary Ross with her mother Mary no husband but she has a brother Andrew Address: Brownlow Hill, Liverpool County: Lancashire Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born ROSS, Mary F 30 1811 Lancashire ROSS, Jane F 12 1829 Lancashire ROSS, Andrew M 7 1834 Lancashire ROSS, Mary F 4 1837 Lancashire CONLY, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Lancashire BOOTH, Thomas M 20 1821 Lancashire CROSBY, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Lancashire When you get to the 1851 census the above Mary is sill in Bromnlow Hill but she is living with two unmarried aunts Annie and Margaret Chapman, Margaret is a butcher so if she was your Mary her mother could be Mary Chapman a relation of the two sisters. 1851 Andrew the brother is also a butcher in Bromnlow Hill but no sign of their mother Mary in 1851 so she could have remarried, if all else fails may be worth looking into Shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ocean9fh Surnames: Classification: death Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52633.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Selina Cowley who died in 1957 in the Calendar of Probate book was a spinster from Birmingham. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

> I Eric,  > looking at an old map I don't see a Gun works. But on the other hand perhaps > they didn't advertise it was a gun manufacturer. However there was an Iron > works in Gorton. A lot of these places machined parts for all sorts of > industries and perhaps this place also made guns. What address (street) do you > show for the people you saw in the census, it might be local to a machine shop > factory. One of the machine shops I worked in machined gas caps for Centurion > tanks. The large Centre lathe I worked on I was told made Gun Barrels at one > time in another factory. > Cheers  > Mike Morris  > Toronto Canadsa  ________________________________ > >> From: Eric Millward <bruckshaw1@tiscali.co.uk> >> To: LANCSGEN@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 3:11:39 PM >> >> >> In 1911 there appears to have been a gun works in the Gorton area of >> Manchester because the census has several gun works employees living in >> Gorton. Does anyone know about this works please? <snip>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1_dianem2 Surnames: Longwill Warsap Leech Thursby Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/40254.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Grandmother was Victoria May Longwill - nee Warsap . born 1885 Thomas Leech and Ellen Thursby were ancestors Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: velpremus Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52633.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Selina that passed away in 1957 was a spinster in Birmingham. It looks like your Selina passed in Manchester in 1963: Name: COWLEY, Selena Registration district: Manchester County: Lancashire Year of registration: 1963 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 81 Volume no: 10E Page no: 40. No Probate fouund Burials: Southern Cemetery E Non Conformist 2007 1 Albert Cowley 1915 Southern Cemetery E Non Conformist 2007 2 Frank Cowley 1931 Southern Cemetery E Non Conformist 2007 3 Selena Cowley 1963 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dougstorie Surnames: Carr, Cowley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52633/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking copies or transcript of probate for my Great Aunt Selena (Carr) Cowley of Liverpool or perhaps Manchester. b 1881 to Thomas Evans Carr in Liverpool d 1957 in Liverpool or Manchester. wife/widow of Albert Cowley Have found the name in index to England & Wales National Probate Calendar, 1856-1996. However, I am unable to access it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have this info, also the 1881 Liverpool census which has strangely, Joseph, mary and son Joseph all from Liverpool,not Chirk, but still an Agent. Actually, son Joseph's marriage cert has his dad as an Insurance Agent. Must be the same family. I have only been able to trace one Joseph with parents Joseph and Mary, which is Mary Jane Ross. Since they were married in 1855 Liverpool, I can not trace them on 1861 census. Working backwards, family info on their marriage certificate details Samuel Ellis, Clothier and Andrew Lyle Ross , foreman in factory. Have no idea where they orginated from. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: debbiehartley18 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52631.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for this information David much appreciated. Debbie. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: debbiehartley18 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52631.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Robert I will have a look on her marriage it says Eliza and on one census it is Ratcliffe and on another it says Radcliffe. Debbie. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Sally, Thank you for being so generous! Regards, Mary McCanney Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: "sally roberts" <sallyroberts55@hotmail.com> To: "englanfylde" <eng-lan-fylde@rootsweb.com>; "englangeneral" <lancsgen@rootsweb.com>; "englanlancaster" <eng-lan-lancaster@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 5:02 AM Subject: [LAN] Lancs OPC update - 6 Feb 2014 Hello all, Here are the latest databases to be added to the Lancs OPC website. The search engine hasn't been updated since the 17th January additions, so the recent records will need to be searched manually for the meantime. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 3 February 2014 Baptisms 1788 to 1812 from the Church of St John the Baptist in the Parish of Lees (or Hey) Baptisms 1844 to 1882 from the Church of St Stephen, Audenshaw Banns 1887 to 1901 from the Church of St Peter in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Regards, Sally :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: karendurrant22 Surnames: Walbank/ Wallbank Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52616.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Many thanks James for the info you have sent. \i too am looking for the parents and not having much luck either. Thanks again, Karen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52616.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi Karen John & Mary Walbank Daughter Alice Walbank baptised at St John's church 25th December 1830. It might be a mistake spelling of the surname by the vicar. I have been surfing for the parents marriage or births , with no luck . regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brianbattle61 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52632.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Anthony, Thanks for the message. That is the correct marriage certificate. She was married previous to a McGrath, but maiden is Smith. I will definitely be checking those census reports, I appreciate the information very much.. Thank you for the help, Brian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sumi48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This could be the family in 1871 living at Emlyn St, West Derby. Joseph seniour is an Agent born Chirk Shropshire, Mary and Joseph C born Liverpool. Name: Joseph Ellis Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ellis Gender: Male Where born: Chirk, Shropshire, England Civil Parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: West Derby Sub-registration District: West Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household Schedule Number: 124 Piece: 3840 Folio: 46 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ellis 34 Mary Ellis 32 Joseph C Ellis 6 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sumi48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52632.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A copy of his parents marriage certificate will give their ages and fathers' names to help you track further back. the only Thomas BATTLE I can see who married a Caroline was at Oldham in 1923, her name Caroline McGRATH. At Oldham in 1917, a Caroline SMITH married a Thomas McGRATH so maybe Caroline was a widow when she married Thomas BATTLE. copy certificates can be ordered from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp for £9.25 references required ...1917 Dec quarter at Oldham volume 8d page 1055 1923 Dec quarter volume 8d page 1046 Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AntonyMarr Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52632.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The only marriage record for a Thomas Battle in Oldham at that time is between Thomas Battle and Caroline McGrath between Oct-Dec 1923. The birth entry for Joseph Thomas Battle earlier that year gives a mothers maiden name of Smith. It may be that Caroline had been previously married and then widowed/divorced and that would explain the 2 surnames, but you need to look at both the birth certificate and marriage certificate to be certain. A quick look in the census of 1891/1901 and 1911 would suggest that Thomas Battle was born in 1891, in Oldham, to Michael Battle and his wife Jane (BUCKLEY), and that Michael was a bricklayer born about 1862 in Sligo, Ireland and Jane born around 1858 in Coventry, England. This would need to be confirmed through checking relevant certificates etc. Antony Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djl79ewing Surnames: PATRINOS Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52622.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You may find this 1911 census record of some interest if you have not already got it. Amalie Patrinos head widow b. 1887 Andrew son 1896 house duties Angelicki dau 1894 manufacturers clerk cotton George son 1892 agents clerk cloth Gertrude dau 1861 manufacturers clerk cotton Helene dau 1888 shippers clerk At 47 Parkfield Street, Moss Side, Manchester Amalie had been married for 25 years and had 5 children. Children all born Manchester, bar Angelicki who was born Constantine, Opla, Turkey Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dvdwmore Surnames: HARRISON Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52631.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Greetings, Another lister replied to your message, but not to this list, so this is the info she sent: Living at 4 Back Ainsworth St,Blackburn Betsy Harrison aged 48 widow washerwoman born Ribchester Thomas Harrison aged 19 cabinet maker b Ratcliffe Eliza Harrison aged 14 cotton winder b Ratcliffe Eliza Ingham aged 56 dress maker unmarried b Ribchester Mary Sharples aged 80 boarder b Ireland. This has been attached. I then looked on the 1861 census and found the mother and two children living with their father, Isreal, still in Blackburn. This has been attached as well. hth David Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robert345c Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52631.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think you might find it's Radcliffe which is close to Bury Lancashire and may have come under Bury unless there is a Ratcliffe I haven't looked. Closest I can find is Name: Elizabeth Harrison Baptism Date: 18 Sep 1859 Parish: Heywood, St James Parish as it Appears: Bury, St James Father's Name: Joseph Harrison Mother's Name: Mary Ann Harrison Reference Number: GB127.L170/1/1/2 Regards Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RxCairns Surnames: PATRINO, PATRINOS Classification: bible Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52622.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Andrew. Do you have the 1881 and 1891 records for John Patrino(s)? In 1881, he was lodging with Mary A. Mennie and her family in Chorlton; name is given as John Patrino. Also in the household was Constantine Coutzovellis, also born in Constantinople. In 1891, he is listed as George J. Patrinos, born 1856 Constantinople and married to Susan b. 1863 Manchester. They have two children, Amalia born 1887 Manchester and Hellen born 1888 Chorlton. Also with them is Curagan Patrinos, female born 1872 Chorlton, who is listed as servant. Possibly of interest - In the 1871 census, there is a Constandino Patrinos, a merchant born 1841 Patmos, Greece, living on Dunham Street in Chorlton - he is lodging with the Fisk family. Also in the 1871 census, in Chorlton, there is a lodger named Pierre Patrinos, lodging at Summer Villas, Stretford, who was born 1815 in Greece and is listed as a Levant merchant. Lodging in the same place is a Robert Morissat, listed as East India merchant and born in Turkey ca 1843. Details of John's death record seem to be: Name: PATRINOS, John Registration district: Chorlton (Lancashire) Registered 1907, 4th quarter. Vol. 8C Page 446 His age was 50. It seems Susan may have used both Susan and Gertrude. I don't see a marriage that would provide her surname. These are the records for Gertrude/Susan Patrinos who died in 1921. Deaths Dec 1921 Patrinos Gertrude 60 Chorlton 8c 685 Patrinos Susan 60 Chorlton 8c 685 Kind regards, Rosemary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>