This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KiwiChristine Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/3511.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching Charles Lucas Reay as part of a New Zealand Clergy project. I have information about him and Marianne and would happily share what I have, and am interested in anything that you may have. I have a copy of a letter written to Robert by his aunt Maria Reay telling him that he was not the child of Charles and Marianne, but he was adopted. There is enough information in the letter for me to have traced his birth mother. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lost1974 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52635/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi anybody related to this man from Blackburn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Shelagh, we may be getting close ! The 1841 census is from Guisley, Yorkshire. I might be getting excited for nothing, but this town is 28 miles from another town called Braithwaite, which just happens to be the middle name of young Joseph Charles Braithwaite Ellis !!!! It was quite common to name the son after the father/grandfather. I wonder if the name Charles fits in with the Ellis or the Ross family Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, on this 1861, the father of this particular Joseph was a Thomas Ellis , not Samuel.Wrong family I'm afraid. I will have a closer look at the 1841 option and let you know what I find. I also had a quick look at those marriage witnesses, but haven't come up with anything yet. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi May be nothing but if you change Joseph's age in the 1841 census to 1823 it gives you one Joseph Ellis with a father Samuel occupation Clothier, this is the first one i found were Samuel is a Clothier, we know the ages on the 1841 census can be out by 5 years so may be worth a look City/Municipal Borough: Address: Willow Green, Guiseley, Horsforth County: Yorkshire Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born ELLIS, Samuel M 50 1791 Yorkshire occupation Clothier ELLIS, Mary F 50 1791 Yorkshire ELLIS, Samuel M 20 1821 Yorkshire ELLIS, Joseph M 20 1821 Yorkshire ELLIS, Robert M 12 1829 Yorkshire ELLIS, Emma F 10 1831 Yorkshire Shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Shelagh, I had mislaid the certificate, fortunately, I have just found it. Here are all the details from it.. Joseph D Ellis 32yrs Bachelor Steward of a Vessel Address:25 Waterloo Rd, Liverpool. Father: Samuel Ellis a Clothier Mary Jane Ross 21yrs Spinster Same address Father : Andrew Lyle Ross a Foreman to a Cotton Factory. Witnessed by James Brindle and Jane Parry. Liverpool Presbyterian Church, Liverpool 17/7/1855 I know false ages have been given at marriages, but those stated would mean Joseph was born 1823(doesn't tally with census as should be 1837/39 Big difference). and Mary Jane was born 1834 rather than 1837/39 as census would have us believe I looked at the birth cert for Joseph Charles Braithwaite Ellis 6/8/1864. Father Joseph was a Barman in Spirit Vault. Address given as 19 Horatio Street, Liverpool. Barman and Steward, pretty similar. Obvious change in profession by the 1871 census when he is an Agent. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: m_cooper59 Surnames: Cooper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52612.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: How stupid do you think I am? I search my way and verify my research. I do not need anyone telling me that I am doing is not research because it is not how someone else researches. I am looking for information on Jonathan Cooper's parentage, if you have any information I can use please provide it. If not thank I you for your assistance and advice. I do not know why you are looking for a baptism in Deane,St Mary, Lancashire, England, for Jonathan Cooper That is the place I have his marriage to Susannah Howarth, and a possible place to start looking for information on his parents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dougstorie Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52633.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you everyone. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

What period was this? Just looked in a 1895 directory, several gunmakers that appear to be around the centre of Manchester. It's possibly many could be small scale, making guns by hand rather than mass production. Also Sir Joseph Whitworth, Ashton Old Road, Openshaw. Give a date and will have a look in some others. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eric Millward Sent: 08 February 2014 20:12 To: LANCSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAN] Gun Works in Gorton, Manchester I am committing the sin of posting for help on 2 different lists to get maximum relevant coverage.. In 1911 there appears to have been a gun works in the Gorton area of Manchester because the census has several gun works employees living in Gorton. Does anyone know about this works please? Thank you, Eric Millward Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7074 - Release Date: 02/08/14 :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi best i could find 1841 census cclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: Lionel Street, Liverpool County: Lancashire Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born GARNETT, John M 35 1806 Lancashire GARNETT, Elizabeth F 30 1811 Lancashire ELLIAS, Joseph M 7 1834 Lancashire ELLIAS, William M 5 1836 Lancashire ELLIAS, Ann F 1 1840 Lancashire So i had a look for thier marriage Marriage: 13 Jan 1839 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England John James Garnett - Full, Labourer, Widower, Lionel Street Elizabeth Ellis - (X), Full, Widow, Lionel Street Groom's Father: John Garnett, Labourer Bride's Father: James Hollinshead, Farmer Witness: William Ellis, (X); Anne Hollinshead Married by Banns by: John Cheetham A. M. Curate Register: Marriages 1838 - 1839, Page 77, Entry 153 Source: LDS Film 93844 The last child on the census is actual Ann Garnett daughter of John and Elizabeth shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi did the marriage certificate give the any information on the witnesses names, you may have already investigated them, i will have a look on the 1851 Shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry Shelagh, Forgot to mention that both fathers of the married couple, Samuel Ellis and Andrew Lyle Ross are not marked as deceased on the marriage certificate,So this would indicate that they should be found on the 1851 census given that their children married in 1855 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I appreciate your help. I checked out Andrew as a possible brother to Mary Jane Ross. Unfortunately, Andrew's Liverpool baptism states Mary CLAPHAM and HUGH Ross as parents. Andrew's sister was actually Mary EDITH Ross, not Mary JANE. Thanks for your help, at least another option I can rule out. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

I am committing the sin of posting for help on 2 different lists to get maximum relevant coverage.. In 1911 there appears to have been a gun works in the Gorton area of Manchester because the census has several gun works employees living in Gorton. Does anyone know about this works please? Thank you, Eric Millward Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7074 - Release Date: 02/08/14

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angela_silcock52 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/16273.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi My husband is the great x 5 grandson of Thomas Grace and Esther Woods from Speke Hall, how are you related?! My daughter is researching the family tree at the moment and any information you can share would be appreciated. Thanks. Ange Silcock Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angela_silcock52 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/16273.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My husband's family have an Ellen Hulme married to Thomas Grace from Speke Hall. Thomas born 30.1.1791, no dates for Ellen Hulme though - her father was Humphrey Hulme - any connection/help/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angela_silcock52 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/16273.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, My husband's Great x 6 Grandfather was Henry Grace who lived at Speke Hall, born 1726 died 1814. Would you be able to send us a photograph of the jug you mention please and any other information you may have about the Graces at Speke Hall. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: debbiehartley18 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52631.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Anne. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: henrywalsh1 Surnames: Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52631.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Debbie, although the spelling is Radcliffe---local pronunciation is often Ratcliffe. HTH,Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi Martin,  this is what I came up with. Mike Morris  Toronto Canada > Eric,  >  > the factory might have been Sir Joseph Whitworth & Co. Engineering works.Or  > Armstrong Whitworth Co. It was a massive plant around 1894. See the following  > from a Google search. The factory was in Gorton. > Cheers  > Mike Morris  > Toronto Canada >  > The contribution that the Armstrong Whitworth Company went on to make during the  >  >>  Great War (1914-18) was colossal. It is credited with the supply of 13,000  >>  artillery pieces, 100 tanks, 47 warships, 240 converted merchant ships,  > 1,000  >>  planes and three airships as well as 14,500,000 shells, 18,500,000 fuses  > and  >>  21,000,000 cartridges. ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martin Briscoe <martin@mbriscoe.me.uk> > To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:41:47 PM > Subject: Re: [LAN] Gun Works in Gorton, Manchester > > What period was this? > > Just looked in a 1895 directory, several gunmakers that appear to be around > the centre of Manchester.  It's possibly many could be small scale, making > guns by hand rather than mass production. > > Also Sir Joseph Whitworth, Ashton Old Road, Openshaw.  > > Give a date and will have a look in some others. > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Eric Millward > Sent: 08 February 2014 20:12 > To: LANCSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LAN] Gun Works in Gorton, Manchester > > I am committing the sin of posting for help on 2 different lists to get > maximum relevant coverage.. > > In 1911 there appears to have been a gun works in the Gorton area of > Manchester because the census has several gun works employees living in > Gorton. > > Does anyone know about this works please? > > Thank you, > > Eric Millward > > Eric Millward > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7074 - Release Date: 02/08/14 > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees! > > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >