Am enjoying these stories. Here’s mine............ My Mom was born in Wigan; came to Canada, age 11, along with her brothers and parents. She never saw her cousins/aunts/uncles/grandparents again, except for one aunt who braved the high seas and came to visit once in the 1950s. But, there were many many letters from England through the years. Mom was particularly close to one cousin (who I shall name “Susie” so as to not hurt any one’s feelings). When I was young, Mom used to tell me over and over about poor Cousin "Susie” who was “left standing at the altar” ; never recovered from the pain of that ; hence never married or had children. Imagine my surprise (after Mom had died) when sorting through all the papers and letters, only to find one from my Uncle (WWII Canadian forces) who visited Wigan on leave, after being posted to Holland for a time. In the letter to my Mom from her brother, he says “Imagine our “Susie” taking off like that with a married man! ! !” So, sometimes one never knows the whole story, I think. Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Greetings from Alabama... OK guys here's another....... My mom had a first cousin that for years came every holiday to stay with them. Mom and siblings loved this cousin, my grandad loved this cousin, my grandmother tolerated this cousin. Mom and siblings couldn't understand why their loving mother felt this way. Years pass and mom a teenager finds her parents arguing and like most teenagers stays out of sight and listens. Turns out this instead of keeping knickers up LOL my grandfather couldn't keep his pants zipped. Even nearly 90 years later the family want it hushed...me I am a firm believer secrets end up destroying families so refuse to hide the good, bad and the ugly I find out that my grans sister died shortly after my moms cousin was born and before grandad married gran. So truthfully don't get the shame. Another story about the goings on in Lancashire. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:31 AM, John Lynch <john_the_genes@btinternet.com>wrote: > :-) > > John Lynch > > > John your last e mail tickled me - I can't stop giggling. > Pamela > PS It's nice to know that mine wasn't the only family who couldn't keep > their knickers on!!! > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Morning all, Here are the latest additions to be added to the Lancashire Online Parish Clerk website : http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html The search engine was last updated on 17th January, so any records uploaded to the site since that date will need to be search manually. 12 February 2014 Roll of Church Members 1852 - 1888 from Oldham Rd Congregational Church (Independent Chapel), in the District of Miles Platting, Manchester Baptisms 1896 - 1901 from the Roman Catholic Church of St William in the City of Manchester 10 February 2014 Marriages 1951 to 1970 from the Church of St Benedict, in the district of Everton, Liverpool Marriages 1851 to 1852 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Marriages 1842 to 1843 from the Church of St Bride, Toxteth, Liverpool Marriages 1869 to 1871 from the Church of St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Liverpool Baptisms 1728 to 1739 from the Church of St Bartholomew, Great Harwood Completes the Register of Baptisms for 1684 to 1744 Baptisms 1907 to 1914 and Marriages 1901 to 1911 from the Church of St Luke, Halliwell, Bolton Baptisms 1799 to 1804 from All Saints in the Town of Wigan Marriages 1885 to 1900 from St George, in the Town of Wigan 8 February 2014 Baptisms 1915 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury Baptisms 1901 to 1907 and Marriages 1915 to 1923 from the Church of St George, Pendleton Marriages 1928 to 1930 from the Church of St Thomas, in the Parish of Radcliffe 7 February 2014 Marriages 1956 to 1963 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of Burnley Baptisms 1936 to 1942 and Marriages 1902 to 1907 from the Church of the Holy Trinity in the Parish of Habergham Eaves Banns 1978 to 1981 and Marriages 1938 to 1945 from the Church of St Matthew the Apostle, Habergham Eaves Baptisms 1899 to 1901 from the Church of St Andrew in the Parish of Leyland The register previously online for 1875 to 1899 has been extended to 1901. Regards, Sally

No, I'm afraid not. My great grandparents came (separately, as teenagers) from County Cork to Highgate and Dartford. My line spread to Bedfordshire and the North East but none went to Manchester. We didn't have any Davids. And they aren't where the bastards came in--the Catholic Irish were all married at least nine months before the birth of the first child. But those mill girls in Lancashire and miners' daughters in County Durham--dear me :-) John Lynch -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of terese mcgrath Sent: 13 February 2014 06:35 To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] Family history Hi John Lynch, I descend from a long line of Lynch's originally from Ireland but thereafter happily ensconced in Manchester. Wondering if the names David Lynch 1794-1871 and his wife Eleanor Francis Bab(b)ington 1798-1874 ring a bell in your line ? Thanks Australia

Thank you once again Sally. It is good to know the updates, it reminds me to have another look at certain churches that were incomplete. Perhaps now I can find my ancestors. Best wishes, Pauline

People look at me oddly when I say I'm descended from several long lines of bastards, but the facts are the facts. John Lynch >Plenty of 'ducks backside' stories in my family, which were all closely guarded secrets. I guess before television, gossip must of been the number 1 form of entertainment! I have a feeling that when they came to Canada, they also wanted to escape the >ridged class systems that held them down in England.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ggrannym Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52639.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you tried looking for staff records for the hospital? I know there is usually a 100 year closure on patient records but you may be able to access the staff records...they may tell you when she began working there and when she left. Not sure where the records are, perhaps in Liverpool central Library? Also, if you could find the electoral registers for Great Crosby for 1907ish it may give an idea of who she was living with. Incidentally, there is a marriage for a Harriet Taylor and William Latham 1914, West Derby. Hope this helps. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Plenty of 'ducks backside' stories in my family, which were all closely guarded secrets. I guess before television, gossip must of been the number 1 form of entertainment! I have a feeling that when they came to Canada, they also wanted to escape the ridged class systems that held them down in England. At least you have a fathers name to go on. I've got three generations of single Vickers ladies living in Bolton and it has really got me stumped! Susan Brouwer Hamilton, Ontario On 2014-02-12, at 10:25 AM, Mike Morris wrote: > > > No wonder some of us get strange looks when we want to talk about family history with our parents. > > Its been a number of years ago since my mom passed away, my dad had died over 20 years earlier. I remembered she would say to my wife Eileen "our Michael wants to know the ins and outs of a ducks backside". (she had a way with words) This was to shut me up. > > > However, on the day of her funeral my sister knowing I was interested in the family history gave me some old family records, one of them was my parents wedding certificate. Not much to look at till I saw the date...................... it was dated a month after I was born. I burst out laughing. I know my mom , she would have been mortified if she knew I knew this. It still gives me a smile as I type this. > > All my best in your own funny moments. > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How sweet! Not quite like that, but I was raised in a devout Catholic home. My parents' wedding anniversary was Oct. 13th. When I started this madness I got the sacramental record from St. Carthage and the date was Oct. 22nd. Puzzled I asked my aunt who was happy to tell me my parents eloped and were first married by a JP just 8 days before having their marriage blessed! My eldest sister arrived well over a year later, so that wasn't it. They never told us and I had a hard time forgiving my aunt for telling their secret! Mary McCanney Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> To: "SEND MAIL LANCASHIRE" <lancsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 10:25 AM Subject: [LAN] Family history No wonder some of us get strange looks when we want to talk about family history with our parents. Its been a number of years ago since my mom passed away, my dad had died over 20 years earlier. I remembered she would say to my wife Eileen "our Michael wants to know the ins and outs of a ducks backside". (she had a way with words) This was to shut me up. However, on the day of her funeral my sister knowing I was interested in the family history gave me some old family records, one of them was my parents wedding certificate. Not much to look at till I saw the date...................... it was dated a month after I was born. I burst out laughing. I know my mom , she would have been mortified if she knew I knew this. It still gives me a smile as I type this. All my best in your own funny moments. Mike Morris Toronto Canada :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No wonder some of us get strange looks when we want to talk about family history with our parents. Its been a number of years ago since my mom passed away, my dad had died over 20 years earlier. I remembered she would say to my wife Eileen "our Michael wants to know the ins and outs of a ducks backside". (she had a way with words) This was to shut me up.  However, on the day of her funeral my sister knowing I was interested in the family history gave me some old family records, one of them was my parents wedding certificate. Not much to look at till I saw the date...................... it was dated a month after I was born. I burst out laughing. I know my mom , she would have been mortified if she knew I knew this. It still gives me a smile as I type this.  All my best in your own funny moments. Mike Morris  Toronto Canada

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: perlucci Surnames: Taylor Wilkinson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/771.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I notice you are researching staff at Rainhill and I wondered if you had any advice on how to do it? I am trying to trace information about two staff members at Rainhill Hospital in 1907. One was John henry Wilkinson, a Stoker who lived in the staff annexe (b. 1982 Carnforth, Lancs) and the other was Harriett Taylor of 10, Shaftsbury Road, Great Crosby. She was a nurse. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi i did start to think was there somthing wrong with this Joseph D, I cant find a death or anything for him. i was going to send you the D,Ellis joseph but i think the page is to big , on Joseph C B birth cert dose it state his mother is Mary Jane Ross if so it must be right but again the only Joseph with a father Samuel a Clother i can find is way out with his age Marriage: 7 Feb 1842 St Thomas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Joseph Ellis - full, Carter, Bachelor, Liverpool Mary Lloyd - full, Spinster, Liverpool Groom's Father: Thomas Ellis, Cow Keeper Bride's Father: Thomas Lloyd, Farmer Witness: Wm. H. Davies; Hannah Lloyd Married by Banns by: J. C. Prince M. A. Chaplain Register: Marriages 1838 - 1852, Page 78, Entry 155 Source: LDS Film 1546064 Shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Shelagh, I got all my certs out and looked them over. Marriage cert has Mary Jane Ross in full, she didn't sign it, just her mark and husband Joseph is down as Joseph D, Ellis. His signature also reads Joseph D, Ellis. There is a dot/squiggle after D, but not high up to appear as an apostrophe, more middle way down the capital D followed by Ellis written with a capital E. The father's name is clearly Samuel Ellis not D'Ellis. The birth cert for Joseph Charles Braithwaite Ellis has father named just Joseph Ellis no initials, yet when Joseph C B married in 1883, on his marriage cert,he is noted only as Joseph and his father also only Joseph. No initials or middle names used. What are you thinking ? Two different families and I've been barking up the wrong tree ? I've had a good long hard think and probably I'm piecing the wrong bits together. The more I look at dates , ages and placenames, the more I think I'm wrong. I keep going back to 1871 census which stated Chirk. I cann't see the image online for that marriage I told you about between Mary LLoyd and Joseph Ellis in 1862. Do you know how to look up the parish records ? If not, I'll purchase the cert. Karen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Good of you to join us, the more the merrier. I had seen the 1841 census with all the family. It's possible that Joseph joined the Merchant Navy. I came across 3 records for a Joseph Ellis but don't know how to verify which Jo Ellis they refer to. Also, the marriage cert in 1855 states his profession was a Steward on a vessel. Liverpool was a big seaport, so I'm guessing by 1851 he had headed out in that direction from Yorkshire. My biggest niggle is the placename Chirk. I wouldn't have thought a Yorkshireman, living in Liverpool, would claim to be from Wales ! What I have found is a Mary LLoyd marrying a Joseph Ellis in Denbighshire in 1862 This marriage date ties in better with the son's birth in 1865, Maybe that's why I cann't find a Liverpool birth. I'm going to buy the cert and see what info it reveals, not unless you know how to check it out online. It was at Trefnant, Denbighshire 4/10/1862 Thanks, Karen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi This is really odd I had a look for Mary Jane Ross married to Joseph D. Ellis and it is nowhere to be found what it dose says is that Mary Jane Ross married a Joseph ( D'Ellis) so I had a look at the original transcript and it's just plane Joseph, his surname is listed under D not E making his surname Dellis, what dose the marriage certificate say it should give both Mary's full Christian name and Joseph full Christian name, is the D in front of his surname, if so this could have been a mistake when the marriage was registered, on his sons birth certificate dose it say Joseph D, on all the birth certificates i have bought it always gives fathers full Christian names, it could well be that we are looking for just a plane Joseph Ellis Shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ggrannym Surnames: Atkinson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52636.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, have you tried posting on the Yorkshire message boards - someone may be able to throw some light on where Timby Parish might be. Also, Halifax Antiquarian Society may help or Calderdale FHS . Also had a look round myself and found a Thomas Atkinson baptism 21 March 1579, Birstall, St Peter , father Theod. Atkinson on here at Ancestry. Just wondering if this Theodore could be the grandfather of Thomas, Theodore and Robert. I have found Christian names tend to run in families, perhaps this Thomas b. 1579 was the father of the three brothers. Bury is not too far away from Yorkshire...maybe the family originates from there and Robert of Timby went back there after his two brothers went to America? Good luck, hope this helps Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Lewis, Corkill, Corkhill Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/49300.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Maureen, I'm browsing the archives of this Board and found your response. It looks like I am 2 years late in writing to say, Thank you. Even though Archibald and Blanche were born in Liverpool around the same time as the youngest of my CORKILL siblings (1868, 1871), I don't recognize their names. I don't know if I have checked to see how many CORKILL / CORKHILL families were living in Liverpool between 1850 and 1870. My ancestors, "Stanley" LEWIS and Mary Elizabeth CORKILL were born there in 1859 and 1860. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That's very interesting. MARY Rhodes did marry Samuel Ellis at Wesleyan Methodist in Horsforth. Their Son Joseph was born 17/3/1820 but christened along with his sister Mary on 10/3 1824, Mary had been born a month previous. Perhaps THIS Joseph was born a bit too early to be my ancestor even though dad Samuel has the right profession. What's even more interesting is that there was a marriage between MARIA Rhodes and Samuel Ellis on 2/9/1833, which produced a son Joseph Rhodes Ellis 24/6/1834 along with a daughter Mary Rhodes Ellis who married in 1868. This birth year would be better, but then his middle initial would be R instead of Joseph D. So obviously this is the wrong one also, just a co-incidence that the names are all similar. I've not turned up anything on the marriage witnesses yet. It may be a tall ask. Parry may well be a married name. Has Welsh connections possibly, but then that could be similar to the name Ellis and placename Chirk on the Denbigh/Shropshire border. I've just come across a Joseph Ellis marriage to a Mary LLoyd in Trefnant, Denbighshire about an hour away from Chirk. Will look further tomorrow. How's your hunt going ? Karen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeanrizzuto107 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52636/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching my paternal ancestry, and I am stuck on a Thomas Atkinson. He was born at about (that's very about) 1604 in Bury, Lancashire, England. He immigrated to the Massachusetts Colony in the 1630's where he married a Susan Elizabeth Rogers, and had at least 3 daughters and one son, John Atkinson. He died by 1646 in Massachusetts. I also know he had at least 2 brothers, a Theodore, who adopted his son John after he died, and a Robert, supposedly mentioned in some legal paperwork dealing with some property he apparently still had in England. I've located records for the brother Theodore. He was born in about 1612 in Bury, Lancashire, England, and settled in Boston, Massachusetts, where he married an Abigail Chambers, and a Mary Wheelwright, and where he died in 1701. But I haven't found anything on the Robert. All I know is that he supposedly stayed in England, He was probably born in the same Bury, Lancashire, England the other brothers were born in, and that he supposedly lived in a Timby Parish, in Halifax, England. I haven't even been able to locate the Timby Parish. Google Maps doesn't recognize it. I would like help in either tracing the parentage of this Thomas Atkinson, or in locating his brother Robert Atkinson, where there might be clues, because he supposedly never left England. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52635.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Lost re Arthur Miller marriage's in Blackburn records are from the Lancashire Births, Marriages, & Deaths for Arthur Miller. I checked the marriage's in Blackburn 1904 to 1943 8 In all. Do You have the Maiden name of his spouse?, if so it can be carried foreward egards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>