More additions from our friends at Lancashire BMD: 9 January 2014 Added 3,492 Births for Trafford RD comprising: Urmston (1947-1948); Stretford (1899-1953) Added 54,691 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Cheetham (1882-1917) 21 January 2014 Added 14,665 Marriages for Blackpool RD comprising: Blackpool Register Office or Registrar Attended (1982-1998) 26 January 2014 Added 3,793 Marriages for Blackpool RD comprising: Bispham, All Hallows (1984-2004); Blackpool, Christ Church with All Saints (1966-1989); Blackpool, St.Paul (1976-1992); Blackpool, St.Stephen (1985-2009); Blackpool, St.Thomas (1979-2003); Blackpool, St.Paul, Marton (1983-2012); Blackpool, Holy Trinity, South Shore (1983-1991); Blackpool, St.Peter, South Shore (1985-1991); Blackpool, St.Mary, South Shore (1983-1998); Blackpool, Holy Cross, South Shore (1988-1999); Blackpool, St.Nicholas, Marton Moss (1969-1996); Bispham, All Saints (1988-2008); Blackpool, St.Christopher, Hawes Side (1991-2011) ~ ~ ~ ~ Cheshire BMD and Yorkshire BMD were also updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

My New Year's resolution to forward these updates to you in a more timely manner has obviously failed! I'll endeavour to try harder. December additions from our friends at Lancashire BMD: 3 December 2013 Added 209 Marriages for Fleetwood and Fylde RD comprising: Fleetwood and Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended (1980-1982) 4 December 2013 Added 18,789 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Chorlton-on-Medlock (1925-1936); Hulme (1929-1936); Rusholme (1929-1936) Added 3,515 Births for Trafford RD comprising: Stretford (1928-1951); Urmston (1929-1947) Amended 12,368 Births for West Lancashire RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Tarleton (1837-1954) 13 December 2013 Added 9,151 Births for Salford RD comprising: Barton on Irwell (1909-1909); Broughton (1909-1909); Salford Greengate (1909-1909); Salford Regent Road (1909-1909); Pendleton (1909-1909); Worsley (1909-1909) 21 December 2013 Added 47,660 Marriages for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended (1977-2003) ~ ~ ~ ~ Cheshire BMD and Yorkshire BMD were also updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yduxbury Surnames: Satchell, Horgan. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/8682.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, please check my family Tree, my dad's mum was Edith satchell her dad was Abel satchell, Edith died when my dad Joseph Horgan was in his teens he was then adopted my one of Edith's relatives along with his sister Eunice. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: impaulgriffin39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/166.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi M/s Charlotte Griffin, My name is Paul Griffin, I reside in Vancouver British Columbia Canada and my Grandfather was Alfred Paul Griffin born march 23,1877 in the county of Lancaster and I as well am seeking information regarding my families tree. It should be interesting switching information and finding a new relative or relatives, thank you waiting your response. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi Everyone I thought I would do a little more hunting for my Britcliffe/Briercliffe family who were in the Rochdale, Salford and Manchester areas. I'm trying to find my Mary Britcliffe/Briercliffe on the 1841 Census. She was born in Rochdale in 1828 (Smallbridge) 1844 MARY Britcliffes first recorded conviction which lead to 6 months gaol in Salford??New Bailey prison. This conviction appears in the Manchester Times and Gazzette on September 14, 1844 her name spelt Mary BIRTCLIFFE for stealing potatoes the property of John Taylor. On Ancestry this is recorded as receiving stolen goods?? (Aged 18). The below is Mary's mother and sister and she is not living with them from what I can see. 1841 Census at 7 Cumberland St.Manchester (near Deansgate) one Hannah BRICLIFFE age 30/35 living with Elizabeth, Hannah was a Clear Starcher who was born in the county living with 6 other people HO 107/569/2 Mary's father John Britcliffe/Briercliffe cannot be located deceased or living anywhere that I could find after 1833 which is the birth of Mary's last sibling Charlotte in 1833. 1854 Hannah Briercliffe dies age 47 years widow of John Briercliffe Carter living at 15 Evan Street Salford, James Briercliffe present at the death. If anyone can offer any suggestions as to how I can find a death for John Briercliffe (there is one that is the Grandson of Hannah recorded). death dec qtr 1854 Hannah Briercliffe Salford 8d 58 death sep qtr 1859 John Briercliffe Salford 8d 52 If anyone can find Mary recorded anywhere on the 1841 Census or working in a Factory, that would be great. It has been suggested on Mary's indent that she was "On the Town" whether that's true or not I don't know. I cannot find any children born to her though. Anyway any help much appreciated. Kindest regards Dianna from Oz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: velpremus Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52641.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: First marriage: Marriage: 3 Aug 1856 St Patrick, Toxteth, Lancashire, England Peter White - Blair St. Elizabeth Catherall - Combermere St. Groom's Parents: Patrick ?Ellen of Blair St. Bride's Parents: Joseph ?Susannah Witness: Thomas Martin of Blair St.; Catharine Martin of Blair St. Married by: P.J. Phelan Register: Marriages 1848 - 1859, Page 117, Entry 5 Source: LDS Film 396378. Peter is back home with Mum & Dad on Blair Street in the 1861 census. and so is Elizabeth on Woolf Street with daughter Mary Ellen (1859) Second marriage: Marriage: 28 Sep 1863 St Clement, Toxteth, Lancashire, England Benjamin Fairbrother - Full, Shipwright, Bachelor, 17 Corlett St. Elizabeth Catherall - Full, Spinster, 27 Corlett St. Groom's Father: Robert Fairbrother, Smith Bride's Father: Joseph Catherall, Shipwright Witness: William Brian; Elizabeth Brian, (X) Married by Banns by: J. W. Milner Register: Marriages 1842 - 1868, Page 175, Entry 348 Source: LDS Film 2147910 Their ages at the first marriage may have invalidated the union as they were both minors Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kenco4indexes Surnames: Catherall/Fairbrother Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52641/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone out there have these two on their tree? I am trying to confirm that Elizabeth may have committed bigamy having been married previously (1856) to a Peter White and had at least one child by him. She married Fairbrother as a 'spinster' and I doubt a divorce took place due to the expense and difficulty of such a course of action. If someone else has come to the same conclusion that would confirm I am not confusing two Elizabeth Catheralls. I share access to this site with my husband. If you have any info to pass on please email me at: susanc241@gmail.com Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi Mary lou, I'm afraid we haven't found any connections in the past.......Isaac, Aaron, Abraham, Samuel all Ogdens of the one family of 13 in Ashton. Then a James Ogden in Failsworth with daughter Betty and wife Martha. Thanks for the offer though.......Good to hear from you:-)) Cheers, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Sent: Saturday, 15 February 2014 11:31 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] Surnames BARNES, ARMITAGE, BIRTWISTLE, OGDEN, WELCH, etc. Hi Robyn.......have we spoken before about your Ogdens?? I first find mine in Blackley/Middleton area....Samuel Ogden + Betty Haworth. I realize that Ogden's are thick on the ground in that area, but if you think there may be a connection....let me know and I'll give you the rest. mary lou -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Clarke <rsclarke@bigpond.com> To: LANCSGEN <LANCSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 5:23 pm Subject: [LAN] Surnames BARNES, ARMITAGE, BIRTWISTLE, OGDEN, WELCH, etc. Hello All, Just in case there are some new Listers hovering in the shadows I am including just a very few Surnames of my Lancashire roots. My BARNES go back to mid 18th century within the District of Altham, where we have found a possible 12 children born to GEORGE and MARY BARNES. Unfortunately, we cannot positively identify Mary's maiden surname..HAWORTH or DUCKWORTH...in any case, I also have both surnames attached to others, so include them as well. The BIRTWISTLE connection was my 3xGGrandmother, ELLEN BIRTWISTLE from Accrington, dau. Of ROBERT BIRTWISTLE and SUSAN ASHWORTH. ELLEN married HENRY JOSEPH BARNES 1788 in Accrington. He was a Blacksmith. They too had 12 children, but not all survived to adulthood. My GGGrandfather JACOB HENRY BARNES (b. abt. 1805) did. He was invited to N.S.W. Australia where he spent 7 years working for the Gov., after a small matter of poaching on a neighbouring Estate in New Accrington went wrong and he and MARK NOBLE were caught with the gun barrel belonging to the Estate owner, JONATHAN PEEL. But for this one misdemeanour I would not be here to tell the tale! In the 18th century JOHN WELCH born Accrington had 11 children, his wife was ELLEN REETON of Church. However they moved into Hyde, Cheshire later on. Their son THOMAS WELCH born in Brinscall 1836 married ELIZABETH BARNES and conducted Green Vale Printworks in Westhoughton. My ARMITAGE family originated in Lydgate, Kirkburton, Yorkshire, but don't hold that against them, because they moved to the area of Failsworth, LANCASHIRE in the mid 18th century and into Dukinfield Manchester thereafter. One Member became the Mayor of Manchester and was knighted, Sir Elkanah Armitage whilst in cotton manufacturing ...whilst my GGGrandfather JOHN ARMITAGE sailed to Brazil, in the employ of Phillips, Wood & Co., of Manchester and wrote whilst there in 1836 a continuation of Southey's "History of Brazil". He then moved on to Ceylon after 7 years in Brazil and formed ARMITAGE, SCOTT & CO., later ARMITAGE BROS., Merchants and Traders. But that's another Story... However, JOHN came home to Chorlton upon Medlock in 1856 where he died too young, leaving wife FANNY HENRIETTE JUMEAUX and 7 children including my GGrandfather CHARLES CYRUS ARMITAGE. My numerous OGDEN connections were 1733 onwards in Ashton-under-Lyne; Married into the ARMITAGE branch in Failsworth, Lancashire. Enough for this time... Anyone with any connections to any of the above, please contact me. Cheers, Robyn Australia :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a thank you all the volunteers that work tirelessly behing the scenes an a Big Thank You for Sally sharing all the record up-dates with us. It is all very much appreciated. Thank you all. Regards Graeme in NZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sally roberts" <sallyroberts55@hotmail.com> To: "englanfylde" <eng-lan-fylde@rootsweb.com>; "englangeneral" <lancsgen@rootsweb.com>; "englanlancaster" <eng-lan-lancaster@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:55 PM Subject: [LAN] Happy Birthday Lancs OPC! > Hello everyone, > > Whilst there was no record update today on the OPC website, there was a > message to say... > > "13 February 2014 > > Today is the tenth anniversary of the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks > website! > A big thank you to all the volunteers who have helped us to reach this > milestone. > We are also very appreciative of all the help, support and encouragement > we have received." > Congratulations and my personal thanks to everyone involved on the project who have given their time freely to co-ordinate, transcribe and provide access to the vast array of records held on the website. I don't know where my tree would be without you! > > Regards, > Sally > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3705/7093 - Release Date: 02/14/14

Message for Graeme Ardern Just read your thank you note to the volunteers at Lancs OPC and wondered if your family had roots in Northenden, Cheshire? Our family connects with the Arderns through the Leighs' when Ellen Leigh married John Ardern on Jan. 6, 1835 in St. Wilfred's Church, Northenden, Cheshire. I have his parents as John Ardern and Mary Bowker - both born about 1770. Do we have a connection? Marilyn (Sutcliffe) Kozak -----Original Message----- From: Graeme Ardern Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:47 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] Happy Birthday Lancs OPC! Just a thank you all the volunteers that work tirelessly behing the scenes an a Big Thank You for Sally sharing all the record up-dates with us. It is all very much appreciated. Thank you all. Regards Graeme in NZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sally roberts" <sallyroberts55@hotmail.com> To: "englanfylde" <eng-lan-fylde@rootsweb.com>; "englangeneral" <lancsgen@rootsweb.com>; "englanlancaster" <eng-lan-lancaster@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:55 PM Subject: [LAN] Happy Birthday Lancs OPC! > Hello everyone, > > Whilst there was no record update today on the OPC website, there was a > message to say... > > "13 February 2014 > > Today is the tenth anniversary of the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks > website! > A big thank you to all the volunteers who have helped us to reach this > milestone. > We are also very appreciative of all the help, support and encouragement > we have received." > Congratulations and my personal thanks to everyone involved on the project who have given their time freely to co-ordinate, transcribe and provide access to the vast array of records held on the website. I don't know where my tree would be without you! > > Regards, > Sally > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3705/7093 - Release Date: 02/14/14 :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mike It is people like you that make the list special. Thank you for all that you share. I am researching our Duckworth family from Rossendale and in fact, I have been writing a book for the last four years. I hope to have it published by the end of the year after my husband and I have visited Rossendale in June. We are so excited as it is our first trip to the UK! I have traced the family back to John and Alice Duckworth from Laund in Rossendale. They were born in the 1760's. Without all the great information online this would not have been possible. I am not sure where they lived in Laund yet so more research is needed. Good luck and thank you again for your wonderful contributions Mike With kind regards Deb Duckworth Jan Juc, Victoria, Australia -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris Sent: Saturday, 15 February 2014 12:54 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] Family history Hi John, That's an interesting piece of family history and something you could not find in Ancestry or Find My Past. That's why people should make the effort to stay in touch with our family history group (Rootsweb). I for one have met many lovely people over the years. Love the stories and how they are so willing to help each other or new comers. I learnt a lot of family history research tips moves through the kindness and patience of our list members.  By the way, I do enjoy looking up old locations in the maps I have. It gives me a great pleasure when I can be of help. See what goes around comes around.................... I think that's how they say it :)) Hopefully our favourite List will now start picking up steam. All my best Mike Morris Toronto Canada Ex Manchester, England.  >________________________________ > From: John Lynch <john_the_genes@btinternet.com> >To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:44:43 PM >Subject: Re: [LAN] Family history > > >Absolutely. We should be looking for the facts--not judging people. >They did what they did. Just like we do. And sometimes there was a gap >between what they said and what they did. Just like there is with us. I >did find myself smiling, though, when politicians exhorted us to return to Victorian values. >Er...which Victorian values, exactly, Mr Major? The Queen's? Or my >great-granny's? <snip> > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here here!!! Such a generous donation of time and spirit has enabled so many people to trace their past. My own appreciation is extended to all those wonderful people. With thanks and kind regards Deb Australia -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sally roberts Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 8:55 PM To: englanfylde; englangeneral; englanlancaster Subject: [LAN] Happy Birthday Lancs OPC! Hello everyone, Whilst there was no record update today on the OPC website, there was a message to say... "13 February 2014 Today is the tenth anniversary of the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website! A big thank you to all the volunteers who have helped us to reach this milestone. We are also very appreciative of all the help, support and encouragement we have received." Congratulations and my personal thanks to everyone involved on the project who have given their time freely to co-ordinate, transcribe and provide access to the vast array of records held on the website. I don't know where my tree would be without you! Regards, Sally :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, Just in case there are some new Listers hovering in the shadows I am including just a very few Surnames of my Lancashire roots. My BARNES go back to mid 18th century within the District of Altham, where we have found a possible 12 children born to GEORGE and MARY BARNES. Unfortunately, we cannot positively identify Mary's maiden surname..HAWORTH or DUCKWORTH...in any case, I also have both surnames attached to others, so include them as well. The BIRTWISTLE connection was my 3xGGrandmother, ELLEN BIRTWISTLE from Accrington, dau. Of ROBERT BIRTWISTLE and SUSAN ASHWORTH. ELLEN married HENRY JOSEPH BARNES 1788 in Accrington. He was a Blacksmith. They too had 12 children, but not all survived to adulthood. My GGGrandfather JACOB HENRY BARNES (b. abt. 1805) did. He was invited to N.S.W. Australia where he spent 7 years working for the Gov., after a small matter of poaching on a neighbouring Estate in New Accrington went wrong and he and MARK NOBLE were caught with the gun barrel belonging to the Estate owner, JONATHAN PEEL. But for this one misdemeanour I would not be here to tell the tale! In the 18th century JOHN WELCH born Accrington had 11 children, his wife was ELLEN REETON of Church. However they moved into Hyde, Cheshire later on. Their son THOMAS WELCH born in Brinscall 1836 married ELIZABETH BARNES and conducted Green Vale Printworks in Westhoughton. My ARMITAGE family originated in Lydgate, Kirkburton, Yorkshire, but don't hold that against them, because they moved to the area of Failsworth, LANCASHIRE in the mid 18th century and into Dukinfield Manchester thereafter. One Member became the Mayor of Manchester and was knighted, Sir Elkanah Armitage whilst in cotton manufacturing ...whilst my GGGrandfather JOHN ARMITAGE sailed to Brazil, in the employ of Phillips, Wood & Co., of Manchester and wrote whilst there in 1836 a continuation of Southey's "History of Brazil". He then moved on to Ceylon after 7 years in Brazil and formed ARMITAGE, SCOTT & CO., later ARMITAGE BROS., Merchants and Traders. But that's another Story... However, JOHN came home to Chorlton upon Medlock in 1856 where he died too young, leaving wife FANNY HENRIETTE JUMEAUX and 7 children including my GGrandfather CHARLES CYRUS ARMITAGE. My numerous OGDEN connections were 1733 onwards in Ashton-under-Lyne; Married into the ARMITAGE branch in Failsworth, Lancashire. Enough for this time... Anyone with any connections to any of the above, please contact me. Cheers, Robyn Australia

Its possible you have the following Rochdale records St Chads. But I didnt want to scrap them with out you seeing them. Looks like they moved back to Smallbridge around 1833.Maybe he died in that area? Cheers  Mike Morris  Toronto Canada Baptism: 6 Aug 1826 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs. Mary Britcliffe - Daughter of John Britcliffe & Hannah     Abode: Smallbridge     Occupation: Labr.     Baptised by: Jas. Aspinall Curate     Register: Baptisms 1826 from The Bishop's Transcripts, Page 77, Entry 610     Source: LDS Film 1545795 Baptism: 20 Jul 1828 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs. James Britcliffe - [Child] of John Britcliffe & Ann     Abode: Small Bridge     Occupation: Labourer     Baptised by: Rd. Whitelock Curate     Register: Baptisms 1828 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 79, Entry 631     Source: LDS Film 1545795 Baptism: 24 Aug 1831 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs. Betty Britcliffe - [Child] of John Britcliffe & Hannah     Abode: Manchester     Occupation: Labourer     Baptised by: W. H. Twemlow Curate     Register: Baptisms 1831 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 85, Entry 673     Source: LDS Film 1342496 Baptism: 2 Sep 1833 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancs. Charlotte Britcliffe - [Child] of John Britcliffe & Ann     Abode: Small Bridge     Occupation: Porter     Baptised by: W. H. Twemlow Curate     Register: Baptisms 1833 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 100, Entry 793     Source: LDS Film 1545797 >________________________________ > From: dianna charles <diamonddi57@optusnet.com.au> >To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:21:20 PM > >I thought I would do a little more hunting for my Britcliffe/Briercliffe >family who were in the Rochdale, Salford and Manchester areas. > >I'm trying to find my Mary Britcliffe/Briercliffe on the 1841 Census. She >was born in Rochdale in 1828 (Smallbridge) > >1844 MARY Britcliffes first recorded conviction which lead to 6 months gaol >in Salford??New Bailey prison. This conviction appears in the Manchester >Times and Gazzette on September 14, 1844 her name spelt Mary BIRTCLIFFE for >stealing potatoes the property of John Taylor. On Ancestry this is recorded >as receiving stolen goods?? (Aged 18). > >The below is Mary's mother and sister and she is not living with them from >what I can see. > >1841 Census at 7 Cumberland St.Manchester (near Deansgate) one Hannah >BRICLIFFE age 30/35 living with Elizabeth, Hannah was a Clear Starcher who >was born in the county living with 6 other people HO 107/569/2 > >Mary's father John Britcliffe/Briercliffe cannot be located deceased or >living anywhere that I could find after 1833 which is the birth of Mary's >last sibling Charlotte in 1833. > >1854 Hannah Briercliffe dies age 47 years widow of John Briercliffe Carter >living at 15 Evan Street Salford, James Briercliffe present at the death. > >If anyone can offer any suggestions as to how I can find a death for John >Briercliffe (there is one that is the Grandson of Hannah recorded). > >death dec qtr 1854 Hannah Briercliffe Salford 8d 58 >death sep qtr 1859 John Briercliffe Salford 8d 52 > > >If anyone can find Mary recorded anywhere on the 1841 Census or working in >a Factory, that would be great.<snip>

Well, I agree. (When I got to Jeddah I discovered that my hotel has now fixed its wifi problems). The single most rewarding method I find is to go to the archives and sit there going through old documents, but these groups come a close second. There are so many people on here who know more than I do and they're always ready to help. I've clambered out of a number of dead ends that way. John Lynch Hi John, That's an interesting piece of family history and something you could not find in Ancestry or Find My Past. That's why people should make the effort to stay in touch with our family history group (Rootsweb). I for one have met many lovely people over the years. Love the stories and how they are so willing to help each other or new comers. I learnt a lot of family history research tips moves through the kindness and patience of our list members.  By the way, I do enjoy looking up old locations in the maps I have. It gives me a great pleasure when I can be of help. See what goes around comes around.................... I think that's how they say it :)) Hopefully our favourite List will now start picking up steam. All my best Mike Morris Toronto Canada Ex Manchester, England. 

Hi Mike, John and Listers, I thank you all for giving me so much enjoyable information and on occasions a good laugh......I may not be researching my crew at present, but I never unsubscribe to this List, too many wonderful stories and kind fellow researchers on board. One never knows when I too may be able to give a helping hand to others. Mike's great help with his old maps allowed me to trace my BARNES just a bit further into the past. Perhaps it is a good opportunity for all those huddled indoors in the Northern Winter at present to renew our Lancashire surname interests once more. Cheers, Robyn Australia -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris Sent: Saturday, 15 February 2014 12:54 AM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] Family history Hi John, That's an interesting piece of family history and something you could not find in Ancestry or Find My Past. That's why people should make the effort to stay in touch with our family history group (Rootsweb). I for one have met many lovely people over the years. Love the stories and how they are so willing to help each other or new comers. I learnt a lot of family history research tips moves through the kindness and patience of our list members.  By the way, I do enjoy looking up old locations in the maps I have. It gives me a great pleasure when I can be of help. See what goes around comes around.................... I think that's how they say it :)) Hopefully our favourite List will now start picking up steam. All my best  Mike Morris  Toronto Canada Ex Manchester, England.  >________________________________ > From: John Lynch <john_the_genes@btinternet.com> >To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:44:43 PM >Subject: Re: [LAN] Family history > > >Absolutely. We should be looking for the facts--not judging people. They did >what they did. Just like we do. And sometimes there was a gap between what >they said and what they did. Just like there is with us. I did find myself >smiling, though, when politicians exhorted us to return to Victorian values. >Er...which Victorian values, exactly, Mr Major? The Queen's? Or my >great-granny's? <snip> > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

TATTERSALL from Burnley & Pendle SUNTER from Haslingden & Blackburn originally from Yorkshire HODKINSON from Lancashire GREGORY from Westhouton & Wigan ANSELL/HANSELL from Darwen & Stevenage WHITTLE from Bolton & Darwen ORMEROD from Blackburn & Canada MORREY from Oldham, Darwen & Cheshire That should be enough to be going on with Pauline in Darwen, Lancashire

Hi Debs, The only Laund I know of is in Pendle. If you ancestors came from Newchurch there is a Newchurch in Rossendale and a Newchurch in Pendle. It does cause a mix up sometimes. I would be interested in the Laund in Rossendale. Thanks to all who share information on this list. I have been a member, on and off, since it started and have been give help and encouragement from so many of the Listers and the List Momma's. Very best wishes to all. Pauline in Darwen, Lancashire

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Hi Robyn.......have we spoken before about your Ogdens?? I first find mine in Blackley/Middleton area....Samuel Ogden + Betty Haworth. I realize that Ogden's are thick on the ground in that area, but if you think there may be a connection....let me know and I'll give you the rest. mary lou -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Clarke <rsclarke@bigpond.com> To: LANCSGEN <LANCSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 5:23 pm Subject: [LAN] Surnames BARNES, ARMITAGE, BIRTWISTLE, OGDEN, WELCH, etc. Hello All, Just in case there are some new Listers hovering in the shadows I am including just a very few Surnames of my Lancashire roots. My BARNES go back to mid 18th century within the District of Altham, where we have found a possible 12 children born to GEORGE and MARY BARNES. Unfortunately, we cannot positively identify Mary's maiden surname..HAWORTH or DUCKWORTH...in any case, I also have both surnames attached to others, so include them as well. The BIRTWISTLE connection was my 3xGGrandmother, ELLEN BIRTWISTLE from Accrington, dau. Of ROBERT BIRTWISTLE and SUSAN ASHWORTH. ELLEN married HENRY JOSEPH BARNES 1788 in Accrington. He was a Blacksmith. They too had 12 children, but not all survived to adulthood. My GGGrandfather JACOB HENRY BARNES (b. abt. 1805) did. He was invited to N.S.W. Australia where he spent 7 years working for the Gov., after a small matter of poaching on a neighbouring Estate in New Accrington went wrong and he and MARK NOBLE were caught with the gun barrel belonging to the Estate owner, JONATHAN PEEL. But for this one misdemeanour I would not be here to tell the tale! In the 18th century JOHN WELCH born Accrington had 11 children, his wife was ELLEN REETON of Church. However they moved into Hyde, Cheshire later on. Their son THOMAS WELCH born in Brinscall 1836 married ELIZABETH BARNES and conducted Green Vale Printworks in Westhoughton. My ARMITAGE family originated in Lydgate, Kirkburton, Yorkshire, but don't hold that against them, because they moved to the area of Failsworth, LANCASHIRE in the mid 18th century and into Dukinfield Manchester thereafter. One Member became the Mayor of Manchester and was knighted, Sir Elkanah Armitage whilst in cotton manufacturing ...whilst my GGGrandfather JOHN ARMITAGE sailed to Brazil, in the employ of Phillips, Wood & Co., of Manchester and wrote whilst there in 1836 a continuation of Southey's "History of Brazil". He then moved on to Ceylon after 7 years in Brazil and formed ARMITAGE, SCOTT & CO., later ARMITAGE BROS., Merchants and Traders. But that's another Story... However, JOHN came home to Chorlton upon Medlock in 1856 where he died too young, leaving wife FANNY HENRIETTE JUMEAUX and 7 children including my GGrandfather CHARLES CYRUS ARMITAGE. My numerous OGDEN connections were 1733 onwards in Ashton-under-Lyne; Married into the ARMITAGE branch in Failsworth, Lancashire. Enough for this time... Anyone with any connections to any of the above, please contact me. Cheers, Robyn Australia :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message