This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Shelagh, I stand corrected. Having rechecked the birth and marriage certs, the mother of Jos Ch B Ellis is listed as Mary Ellis (Formerly Ross) and father as Joseph Ellis. It is the marriage cert that has the full name of Mary Jane Ross recorded. I have found in 1841 records, an Andrew Ross, Overseer in Cotton Factory with a daughter Mary born 1839 living in Scotland. The marriage cert has Andrew Lyle Ross, Foreman to a Cotton Factory noted as father to Mary Jane Ross. Co-incidence ?? The Welsh marriage between Joseph Ellis and Mary Lloyd has turned out to be a red-herring so I will not be pursuing that line. Still need to locate Samuel Ellis and both Mr & Mrs Joe Ellis on 1861 census, given that they were married in 1855. When all this is said and done, still need to know why Joe Ellis is recorded as coming form Chirk in 1871 census. Well, one step at a time I suppose. Kind regards, Karen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1_lorraine793 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52646/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hit a brickwall on search for any info on 128 queens road liverpool 1937. Address is listed as place of birth on a birth certificate I hold. Any ideas where to go from here? Many thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: flowerBD20 Surnames: Carter, Wainwright Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52645/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello there, I am researching the following and wondered if any kind soul could provide details of the gravestone inscriptions from St Michael's church Garston Lancashire? Henry CARTER born 1806, buried July 1860 and his wife Mary buried 1860-70?, Thomas CARTER born 1782, buried c1855-70? (sorry not specific) possibly Henry's father? Alice CARTER born 1782 buried 1825, hopefully wife of Thomas, mother of Henry. Other siblings of Henry hopefully; William born 1808, Thomas born 1810, Anne (Wainwright) born 1813, Margaret born 1815 died 1818, and John a shoemaker and coal agent born 1817. Many thanks for anyone who can throw light on these relationships as I have only the baptisms to go on. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52644.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Andrea John Scholes & Lydia Hamer were married 1923 at Congregational Church Blackburn Road Bolton Do you know the parents Christian names., would be helpful for their baptisms regard James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

My BARTON line lived at the cottages on Green Lane, I remember visiting them in the 1960's - we had a cousin who was several years older than us but I can only remember her nickname of Tuppence! Does anyone have any information about the cottages and the BARTON's? Many thanks, Dot -- Dot Holden Dover Kent UK There are three things that can never be retrieved, the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Pendlelass Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52565.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, not sure if you have got the answer to your question, but there is an area in Manchester called Bridgewater.......it is around Great Bridgewater Street, an area around the Bridgewater canal.......perhaps it is this? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tony_hodgson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/14027.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: susan55124 Hi I may be able to help you, May Grace b 13 May 1883 was the 6th child of Charles Grace who was my Grandmother. Regards Tony Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52644.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks James . I dont think I have this John H Scholes in my tree - as all mine were from Bolton and Astley bridge I didnt think he was related . Though in my tree i have lydia Hamer marries John Scholes but the fathers of both John and Lydia are dead by 1927 so theres no way this could be a pic of a grandpa as my mum is here about 4-5 years old (the little girl ) so i think its a close older uncle to them (age i cant put as he seems more like 60s-70s) here so trying to wqrk out WHO is is as obvioulsy a close family member by the looks of this and i have a couple more pics of him at the seaside - Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 44jake44 Surnames: Bretland, Dean Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/39529.103.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just come across your message. The Eva you mentioned did indeed marry Alfred Bretland they emigrated to America in 1879/1880. See my website bretland.co.uk Although I have not kept the website upto date for a while, there still might be something which will interest you. regards Frank Bretland Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: whitesfan1930 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52644.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Andrea John H Scholes married Ada L Hamer at Bolton registry office 1905. Unable to find birth of Ada Hamer , John H Scholes it seems he might have born in Manchester regards James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andreakkk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52644/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi, I need some help in identifying the man in the pic - it was amongst my mums posessions and i inintially thought it was my great grandfather but ive found both mums grandparents on either side had died by the time this was taken (about 1929). I thought it could be an uncle or someoen else t not sure - i do have another pic of them at the seaside this time there is another lady there with dark curly hair quite a stockly built woman with a black coat possibly his wife (neither have grey hair but look about late 60s or 70sage) I have several others Im having to fit together from facial features as there are no names on the back My grandmans maiden name was Hamer her married name was Scholes so it will be someone from either of these families any help apprecaited Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52641.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I think that Peter and Elizabeth i found in 1871 is Marriage: 28 Dec 1857 St Matthias, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Peter White - (X), 27, Smith, Bachelor, Highfield St Elizabeth Bulman - (X), 27, Spinster, Highfield St Groom's Father: John White, Tobacconist Bride's Father: William Bulman, Mariner Witness: Thomas White, (X); Catherine Green Married by Banns by: John R Pilling Notes: Grooms Father Decd Register: Marriages 1850 - 1877, Page 84, Entry 167 Source: LDS Film 1656207 Shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52641.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi This is the one i found 1871 and i thought was yours but if youi already have him it cant be the same ub District: Islington Parish: Liverpool Enum. District: 19 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: Lionel Street Court, Liverpool County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born WHITE, Peter Head M 40 1831 Cheshire WHITE, Elizabeth Wife F 41 1830 Lancashire WHITE, William H Son M 12 1859 Lancashire Shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kobieharris1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52642.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In 1911 census there is a Buckwood Cottage & Pear Tree Cottage in Sheepsfoot Lane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: velpremus Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52641.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Shelagh, Below are the census entries for Peter White, Could you please post the entries where Peter and Elizabeth are together.. Note the Address and the parents are the same as those shown in the Catholic marriage to Elizabeth Catherall. in 1856 and that Elizabeth father is Joseph on both marriage registers and her mum Susannah(Harrison) and Joe are with her on the 1861 census when she is Elizabeth White. 1861 Census: RG number: RG10 Piece: 3793 Folio: 101 Page: 36 Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: Toxteth Park Parish: Toxteth Park Enum. District: 4 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: Blair Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born WHITE, Patrick Head M 67 1804 Isle of Man WHITE, Ellen Wife F 59 1812 Isle of Man WHITE, Peter Son M 33 1838 Lancashire PULFORD, Ellen Daughter F 30 1841 Lancashire WHITE, Joseph Son M 27 1844 Lancashire WHITE, William Son M 22 1849 Lancashire WHITE, Albert Son M 20 1851 Lancashire PULFORD, Tereasa Granddaughter F 7 1864 Lancashire 1871 Census: RG number: RG10 Piece: 3793 Folio: 101 Page: 36 Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: Toxteth Park Parish: Toxteth Park Enum. District: 4 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: Blair Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool County: Lancashire WHITE, Patrick Head M 67 1804 Isle of Man WHITE, Ellen Wife F 59 1812 Isle of Man WHITE, Peter Son M 33 1838 Lancashire PULFORD, Ellen Daughter F 30 1841 Lancashire WHITE, Joseph Son M 27 1844 Lancashire WHITE, William Son M 22 1849 Lancashire WHITE, Albert Son M 20 1851 Lancashire PULFORD, Tereasa Granddaughter F 7 1864 Lancashire. 1881 Census: RG number: RG11 Piece: 3635 Folio: 17 Page: 27 Reg. District: Toxteth Park Sub District: Toxteth Park Parish: Toxteth Park Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 7, In Blair St, Toxteth Park County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born WHITE, Ellen Head Widow F 69 1812 Nothing Liverpool, Lancashire WHITE, Peter Son Married M 45 1836 Cooper Liverpool, Lancashire KING, Ellen Daughter Married F 39 1842 Liverpool, Lancashire WHITE, Robert Son Widower M 33 1848 Cooper Liverpool, Lancashire PULFIRD, Sarah Grand Daughter Single F 19 1862 Dressmaker Liverpool, Lancashire PULFIRD, Theresa Grand Daughter Single F 17 1864 Liverpool, Lancashire WHITE, George Thos Grand Son Single M 10 1871 Liverpool, Lancashire WHITE, Amelia C Grand Daughter Single F 0 1881 Liverpool, Lancashire WHITE, Ann Grand Daughter Single F 17 1864 Liverpool, Lancashire ALTRIDGE, Mary Servant Single F 19 1862 Servant Liverpool, Lancashire. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmorgan01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52629.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Shelagh, Apologies for the tardy reply.I received no e-mail from ancestry regarding your last response. The birth cert has the mother's name in full as Mary Jane Ross, yet the father's as just Joseph Ellis Do you think i'm following the wrong path? I'm not too convinced due mainly to Yorkshire as birthplace as opposed to Chirk on census records. Their Liverpool marriage in 1855 does seem to be advanced for their only child's birth in 1865. I have now been concentrating on the marriage of Joseph Ellis to Mary Lloyd on 4/10/1862 in Denbigh. This date would fit in better with my gt gt gf birth in 1865 Joseph ,a labourer. son of George also a labourer, born Flintshire (Chirk border) 1836 and Mary Lloyd, d/o James Lloyd, also a labourer. Witnesses were Thomas Ellis and Elizabeth Lloyd, who if according to census, were siblings to the married couple.. All I need to find now is a birth for a Joseph Ellis about 1865 with a mother surname Lloyd !!! I do hope that this is not another red herring. Karen I Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddie71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/52641.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Both of these married couples Peter White and his wife Elizabeth, Benjamin Fairbrother and his wife Elizabeth are all alive on the 1871 census living in Liverpool so it cant be the same Elizabeth Shelagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Thanks Pauline I appreciate your reply. There was a Laund in Rawtenstall on an old map but it disappeared at some stage. The family definitely all came from Rawtenstall. It certainly makes it difficult when old villages become adsorbed into towns. Thanks again for your interest and reply. With kind regards Deb -----Original Message----- From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of phodkinson@aol.com Sent: Saturday, 15 February 2014 8:24 PM To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LAN] Family history Hi Debs, The only Laund I know of is in Pendle. If you ancestors came from Newchurch there is a Newchurch in Rossendale and a Newchurch in Pendle. It does cause a mix up sometimes. I would be interested in the Laund in Rossendale. Thanks to all who share information on this list. I have been a member, on and off, since it started and have been give help and encouragement from so many of the Listers and the List Momma's. Very best wishes to all. Pauline in Darwen, Lancashire :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at LancsGen-admin@rootsweb.com :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: malcolm2682 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/48490.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Denison street is still indeed there , though there are now no houses or buildings where it stands. an old long since closed public house is all that remains on the site which is within spitting distance of Liverpool's pier head. hope this helps. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djl79ewing Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/166.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1881 census. Alfred Griggin at 6 Underwood Court, Chorlton on Medlock with father Grank G. Griffin (wife not recorded) siblings: Louisa 11 years, Edith 10, Frances 8, Agnes 7, Joseph 5.....all born in Otley, Yorkshire. Alfred was 5, born Chorlton on M., Manchester 1891 census: Includes both parents. Frederick b. Birmingham 1845 & Mary A. b.Dublin, Ireland 1846 children as 1881 plus 21 year old Mary born Otley, Yorkshire living at Bishop Street, Cheetham, Manchester 1901 census. Frederick and Mary, plus Dau. Mary, Joseph and Alfred. Occupation of Frederick was bookbinder. Alfred was a joiner. Living at 5 Ashworth Street, Prestwich, Manchester. A couple of points you may find useful when searching. Chorlton on Medlock is within Manchester, but very often if you search giving Manchester as the place name you don't get a result, you have to put in Chorlton. If one fails to find what you are looking for try the other. There is also another area of Manchester named Chorlton, full title Chorlton-cum-Hardy. Treat County of Lancaster and Lancashire as the same, generally Lancashire is used more frequently. Prestwich, where the Griffins lived in 1901 can cause confusion. it appears that boundaries have changed and all or part of Prestwich was once within Manchester. If having difficulty searching it is worth trying Prestwich, Manchester as well as Prestwich Lancashire. County, and othe boundaries have changed. Today Manchester is no longer in Lancashire, it is part of greater Manchester and has been since around the 1970's. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>