>From their website You can either visit us between 09:00 to 16:30 weekdays for 15GBP per day or we have free non -bookable two hour introductory sessions from 10:00 to 12:00 and 14:00 to 16:00. As I wrote also same access from archives around Scotland, this Highland - no problem with parking or trams there! The Family History room is also the only venue in the Highlands with direct access to ScotandsPeople Network, which provides access to a wealth of historic records from across the whole of Scotland including Census Returns from 1841 to 1911; Old Parish Registers up to 1854; and Births, Marriages and Deaths (from January 1855). There are 4 available spaces which can be booked daily at a cost of £15 per day or part day and copies of historic images can be printed for a small fee. Martin Briscoe Fort William [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] An interesting Website also Scottish BMDs Yes David Credits are only for use online You are best to seek out an agent that visits Edinburgh and pay for a transcription Although not online they are at New Register House I used to pay about £3 but its probably more now, but cheaper than a paper copy extract
Yes David Credits are only for use online You are best to seek out an agent that visits Edinburgh and pay for a transcription Although not online they are at New Register House I used to pay about £3 but its probably more now, but cheaper than a paper copy extract Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/09/2015 13:42, David Railton via wrote: > June, > > Perhaps you can help me understand the system for obtaining Scottish > certificates. I have purchased units from Scotland's People. I have also > found a birth I was looking for in their index. They tell me that no image > is available but I can purchase a certificate for £12. There was no > possibility mentioned of using my units or putting them towards the cost. > > Can units only be used to look at the index and view digitised certificates? > > David Railton
It's worth watching out various family history lists because ScotlandsPeople periodically give in various places away vouchers for credits and word gets around. They last for a fixed period and then are dormant but adding new ones, even free ones, 'wakes up' any that you have already. It is not just BMDs at ScotlandsPeople, there are other records with some having limited free access. You can get access at the office in Edinburgh for a small charge and also at archives around Scotland. Sorry for being off topic but thought I would just add a little more. Martin Briscoe Fort William [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Penny Trueman via Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:43 PM To: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] An interesting Website As we are talking (sort of) about Scotland, may I add, for those who do not know yet, that BMD's at the Scottish Records Office (online) Are available to view/download online - after you have paid a fee of course, although Not the really modern ones, which you Can order but are more expensive than the GRO. However after 1855 when Scottish civil registration began, they are fulsome and interesting, with far more information than English ones. Best wishes, Penny
June, Perhaps you can help me understand the system for obtaining Scottish certificates. I have purchased units from Scotland's People. I have also found a birth I was looking for in their index. They tell me that no image is available but I can purchase a certificate for £12. There was no possibility mentioned of using my units or putting them towards the cost. Can units only be used to look at the index and view digitised certificates? David Railton -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of June Dowling via Sent: 23 September 2015 13:15 To: Penny Trueman; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] An interesting Website also Scottish BMDs Penny - I agree with you about Scottish certificates - available to download from Scotlands People -- for units. Death certs are really useful also. Irrespective of age at death - the person could be 92 - but it will name the spouse (including maiden name where appropriate) - and the mother and father. So this can take you back to pre Civil Registration. Regards June Lancashire As we are talking (sort of) about Scotland, may I add, for those who do not know yet, that BMD's at the Scottish Records Office (online) Are available to view/download online - after you have paid a fee of course, although Not the really modern ones, which you Can order but are more expensive than the GRO. However after 1855 when Scottish civil registration began, they are fulsome and interesting, with far more information than English ones. Best wishes, Penny On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Nivard Ovington via <[email protected] > wrote: :-+ :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi June As in most places, until comparatively recent times, the information given is only as accurate as the knowledge or honesty of the informant I have several where false information was given in Scotland as well as elsewhere Just because its on a certificate it does not make it true & accurate Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/09/2015 13:14, June Dowling via wrote: > Penny - I agree with you about Scottish certificates - available to download from Scotlands People -- for units. > Death certs are really useful also. Irrespective of age at death - the person could be 92 - but it will name the spouse (including maiden name where appropriate) - and the mother and father. So this can take you back to pre Civil Registration. > > Regards > June > Lancashire
Hi David, As you probably know you will have to register with the site and purchase units before you can view any images. I suspect it depends upon the date of the event as to whether an on-line image is available. If you check 'About our Records' in the ribbon menu - then go to 'Record Availibility' - there is a list showing the dates covered by 'Images'. For the statutory registers --at a quick glance there seems to be images available up to; Births 1914Deaths 1964Marriages1939 If I am reading it correctly (and I may not be!) So if you want a cerificate where no image is yet available you will have to send for the actual certificate. If you want to give me the details of the cert you want - I will check to see what message I get, if that helps. Regards June Perhaps you can help me understand the system for obtaining Scottish certificates. I have purchased units from Scotland's People. I have also found a birth I was looking for in their index. They tell me that no image is available but I can purchase a certificate for £12. There was no possibility mentioned of using my units or putting them towards the cost. Can units only be used to look at the index and view digitised certificates? David Railton -
Hello Eric Thanks for the information very interesting. I had never heard of this organisation before. I will look to see what churches were in the area at that time. Thanks again Peter Vipond Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Sep 2015, at 09:14, Eric Millward via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Could this be PSA (Pleasant Sunday Afternoon)? I remember hearing about > these in Stockport in my youth. My guess is that they had a slightly > religious aim but suitable for all denominations. In Stockport an > equivalent was the enormous Stockport Sunday School > > Here is an extract I found online relating to the Black Country. > > ""This then was the start of the Pleasant Sunday Afternoon Movement. The > name, however, came about through a train journey made by John Blackham. > In the carriage he was travelling in were a number of men who by their > conversation made him think they were ex-jailbirds who were planning to > have some fun at his expense. To forestall what could have been a little > embarrassing for him, John Blackham asked them the following question: > "What sort of bible class would you rather have than go to a horse race > or a cock fight?" They answered that they had nothing against the bible, > but did the services in church need to be so blessed dull? This answer > caused John Blackham to use the word 'pleasant' when describing his > meetings and so the name 'Pleasant Sunday Afternoon' was applied to the > movement. So successful were these meetings that in the next 10 years > they had spread throughout the Black Country"". > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10679 - Release Date: 09/22/15 > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
As we are talking (sort of) about Scotland, may I add, for those who do not know yet, that BMD's at the Scottish Records Office (online) Are available to view/download online - after you have paid a fee of course, although Not the really modern ones, which you Can order but are more expensive than the GRO. However after 1855 when Scottish civil registration began, they are fulsome and interesting, with far more information than English ones. Best wishes, Penny On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Nivard Ovington via <[email protected] > wrote: > Whilst people are discovering the NLS they may like to check out the > following, from the NLS via archive.org > > https://archive.org/details/nationallibraryofscotland > > Of particular note are the British Army Lists, British Navy Lists and > British Air Force Lists > > But much more besides > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 23/09/2015 10:32, Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop) via wrote: > > The NLS have a wide range of maps online, obviously mainly of Scotland > but > > they also have the whole of England and Wales 6" series and are adding > > England and Wales 25" at the moment though going to take some time. The > > index map to the 25" series is there, to identify sheet numbers needed. > > > > There is a useful set of 1:25000 of England and Wales from around 1950s / > > 1960s. > > > > Full list here. > > > > http://maps.nls.uk/series/index.html > > > > http://maps.nls.uk/index.html > > > > http://maps.nls.uk/additions.html > > > > > > Martin Briscoe > > Fort William > > [email protected] > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Penny - I agree with you about Scottish certificates - available to download from Scotlands People -- for units. Death certs are really useful also. Irrespective of age at death - the person could be 92 - but it will name the spouse (including maiden name where appropriate) - and the mother and father. So this can take you back to pre Civil Registration. Regards June Lancashire As we are talking (sort of) about Scotland, may I add, for those who do not know yet, that BMD's at the Scottish Records Office (online) Are available to view/download online - after you have paid a fee of course, although Not the really modern ones, which you Can order but are more expensive than the GRO. However after 1855 when Scottish civil registration began, they are fulsome and interesting, with far more information than English ones. Best wishes, Penny On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Nivard Ovington via <[email protected] > wrote: :-+
Whilst people are discovering the NLS they may like to check out the following, from the NLS via archive.org https://archive.org/details/nationallibraryofscotland Of particular note are the British Army Lists, British Navy Lists and British Air Force Lists But much more besides Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/09/2015 10:32, Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop) via wrote: > The NLS have a wide range of maps online, obviously mainly of Scotland but > they also have the whole of England and Wales 6" series and are adding > England and Wales 25" at the moment though going to take some time. The > index map to the 25" series is there, to identify sheet numbers needed. > > There is a useful set of 1:25000 of England and Wales from around 1950s / > 1960s. > > Full list here. > > http://maps.nls.uk/series/index.html > > http://maps.nls.uk/index.html > > http://maps.nls.uk/additions.html > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > [email protected]
The NLS have a wide range of maps online, obviously mainly of Scotland but they also have the whole of England and Wales 6" series and are adding England and Wales 25" at the moment though going to take some time. The index map to the 25" series is there, to identify sheet numbers needed. There is a useful set of 1:25000 of England and Wales from around 1950s / 1960s. Full list here. http://maps.nls.uk/series/index.html http://maps.nls.uk/index.html http://maps.nls.uk/additions.html Martin Briscoe Fort William [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adele Earnshaw via Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] An interesting Website Dear List, I have been using this website for a few weeks..caution: it's seriously addictive, both as a research tool and just for idling away a few hours. http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=53.5767&lon=-2.8667&laye rs=171 Enjoy. Regards to the list. Adele
Please - this American needs help about ships sailing from Liverpool to Quebec back in the 1870s. Under the The British Child Emigration Scheme, children were picked up in London streets, among other places, and shipped to Canada. My question is how were these children transported from London to Liverpool, where they boarded a ship, and embarked to Quebec? And how much did this trip from London to Liverpool cost? Thanks. Carole
Dear List, I have been using this website for a few weeks..caution: it's seriously addictive, both as a research tool and just for idling away a few hours. http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=53.5767&lon=-2.8667&laye rs=171 Enjoy. Regards to the list. Adele
Hello all List messages are being archived as usual and you can view them at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=lancsgen There seems to be a problem, however, when a search of the archived messages is performed. Messages that appear in the list of archives messages do not appear when the archives are searched. I have notified the Help Desk about the issue and I'll let you know when the problem has been resolved. Thanks to Lorraine who brought the problem to my attention. Lynne list admin.
Hi Instead of using googlemaps, try www.streetmap.co.uk and search for Mouzel. If you then zoom in, you'll be able to see Mouzel Farm. Looking at the map Mouzel is probably just the farm and a few nearby houses. Googling Mouzel, Dalton in Furness there are a number of other houses Mouzel House, Blackthorn and Nettlebank Bank. The postcode is LA15 8JR which you can use in streetview. The road up to Mouzel Farm can be found, it has a dark green sign where it branches off the main road. Google earth is also useful, showing the names of a few more farms. Hope this helps Elaine On 22 September 2015 at 16:57, Lorraine Toleikis via <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello listers, > > An ancestor farmed property in Mousel in Dalton in Furness around 1800. I > want to locate Mousel on Google map and then go from there to Google Street > view to see it. Seeing really is helpful, I find. > > I understand Mousel is near Ireleth but the Ireleth road on the Google > Map is long and Mousel isn't marked on it. I can find "Mouzel" on > Lancashire Old Maps (Hennet, 1829) and from that I can see Mousel's then > nearer Dalton town than Ireleth but I can't translate that to a modern > Google map. > > Can some clever lister please give me an exact search term or directions > to take me first to a place on the map that will show Mousel, and second to > the actual place on Google street view so I can see it? > > Is Mousel a hamlet with a number of buildings or just one property? Can a > lister with some local knowledge describe it to me please? Does it still > exist or has it been incorporated into other areas? > > Thank you! > > Lorraine in Canada > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Elaine, Thanks for this useful reply. I appreciate your help. Take care, Lorraine On 2015-09-23, at 12:38 AM, Elaine Ainsworth wrote: > Hi > > Instead of using googlemaps, try www.streetmap.co.uk and search for Mouzel. If you then zoom in, you'll be able to see Mouzel Farm. Looking at the map Mouzel is probably just the farm and a few nearby houses. > > Googling Mouzel, Dalton in Furness there are a number of other houses Mouzel House, Blackthorn and Nettlebank Bank. The postcode is LA15 8JR which you can use in streetview. The road up to Mouzel Farm can be found, it has a dark green sign where it branches off the main road. Google earth is also useful, showing the names of a few more farms. > > Hope this helps > > Elaine
Hi Kerry, I too have had a good look around both Ancestry and FMP and the only entries that I could find were very ambiguous. TA, unmarried, imbecile or/and idiot....in Institutions. A Death Cert. will have some answers I think...... Good luck, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Young via Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2015 4:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Tabitha ASHTON nee OGDEN Tabitha Ogden was born 6 October 1847 at Oldham to James Ogden & Mary Fitton. She married Alfred ASHTON 13th October 1868 a.t Chadderton St Matthew. I have her with her mother & siblings in 1851 Census at 30 Brunswick Street Oldham and in 1861 at the same address with both her parents & some siblings. I can't find her in the 1871 Census. Alfred Ashton is at home with his parents for the 1871 Census. Tabitha died June 1872. I'm wondering if anyone can find her in 1871. Regards Kerry (Young) Brisbane, Australia :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Tabitha Ogden was born 6 October 1847 at Oldham to James Ogden & Mary Fitton. She married Alfred ASHTON 13th October 1868 a.t Chadderton St Matthew. I have her with her mother & siblings in 1851 Census at 30 Brunswick Street Oldham and in 1861 at the same address with both her parents & some siblings. I can’t find her in the 1871 Census. Alfred Ashton is at home with his parents for the 1871 Census. Tabitha died June 1872. I’m wondering if anyone can find her in 1871. Regards Kerry (Young) Brisbane, Australia
Hi Ron, in the 1881 census Daniel gives his birthplace as Crowland,Lincolnshire. In 1871 census at 10 MILLS ST Castleton, Head is Cornelius Mellor 36 b Staffordshire, occ. coal agent wife Elizabeth Ann 31 laundress b Lincolnshire son DANIEL WM DALTON 11y scholar b Lincolnshire, dau.Marie Mellor 4y b Lancs. son Walter Mellor 2y b Lancs From LOPC 26th June 1864 marriage at Castleton, Cornelius Mellor age 29 bach. occ labourer of John St & Elizabeth Ann DALTON spinster of Regent St. grooms father Cornelius occ road surveyor, brides father Daniel Howard Dalton occ labourer, witnessed by Solomon Butterworth and Susanna Dalton. Hope this is useful, Anne
Hi Anne This info is very helpful. It appears that my grandmother, Elizabeth Ann Dalton Lord was named after her aunt. Thanks Best regards Ron -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 9/22/15, [email protected] via <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: [LAN] DANIEL DALTON of CASTLETON To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2015, 10:29 AM Hi Ron, in the 1881 census Daniel gives his birthplace as Crowland,Lincolnshire. In 1871 census at 10 MILLS ST Castleton, Head is Cornelius Mellor 36 b Staffordshire, occ. coal agent wife Elizabeth Ann 31 laundress b Lincolnshire son DANIEL WM DALTON 11y scholar b Lincolnshire, dau.Marie Mellor 4y b Lancs. son Walter Mellor 2y b Lancs From LOPC 26th June 1864 marriage at Castleton, Cornelius Mellor age 29 bach. occ labourer of John St & Elizabeth Ann DALTON spinster of Regent St. grooms father Cornelius occ road surveyor, brides father Daniel Howard Dalton occ labourer, witnessed by Solomon Butterworth and Susanna Dalton. Hope this is useful, Anne :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message