>From The Manchester Evening News 4 Oct 2015 By Paul Britton "Ceremony to honour life of Salford nurse Edith Cavell - 100 years after she was executed in World War One "Cavell famously saved both British and German lives and helped up to 200 Allied servicemen escape occupied Belgium "The life of a heroine First World War nurse will be remembered at a church ceremony. "Edith Cavell, who worked in Salford before the war, famously saved both British and German lives and helped up to 200 Allied servicemen escape occupied Belgium. "She was arrested then shot by a German firing squad for treason in 1915. "Her sacrifice will be honoured at Sacred Trinity Church on Chapel Street, Salford, on Monday, October 12, exactly 100 years after her death. "In 1906, the Norfolk-born vicar’s daughter become a matron at the Manchester and Salford Sick, Poor and Private Nursing Institute. She also attended Sacred Trinity Church. "A year later, Cavell moved to Belgium to set up an institute for training nurses in Brussels. She went on to join the resistance and helped many Allied soldiers reach neutral Holland. "Retired Salford headteacher David Winston has been promoting the Sacred Trinity and Royal College of Nursing celebration at the church, to be held between 10am and noon. It’s part of the Ideas4Ordsall project, funded by the University of Salford...." Entire article and photo at http://tinyurl.com/pyune39

Thanks for that. Conditions were tough for prospectors in those days. It was tough anywhere prospectors went as many had no or little bush survival skills and scant resources. every now and then road crews come across the odd shallow grave of some poor traveller from the gold rush period. sadly, remains of these poor souls rarely have any identifying features and so remain unknown. Colin On 4 October 2015 at 03:43, Barb Ontario Canada via <[email protected]> wrote: > LETTER FROM THE GOLD DIGGINGS. > > A letter just received in Liverpool from an English emigrant in Australia > gives a graphic description of the sufferings endured by those who went to > the Palmer diggings. The letter is dated Brisbane, June, and the writer > says: > > “Since the 17th of March I have been very ill, but I am thankful to say I > am perfectly recovered. Since I last wrote I have had something fearful to > undergo, and I am one of the lucky ones to have escaped as I have. > Hundreds of poor fellows have lost their lives, and what fearful deaths > some of them have had ! Some died from starvation, some were drowned, > others were killed by blacks, and hundreds were carried off by dysentery. > Even grass and rotten horseflesh were eagerly devoured. There were three > others who started with me. One died, and the other two are now in > hospital, and it is doubtful whether they will ever recover. > > We were nearly shipwrecked, and to save the vessel we had to smother 76 > horses, among which were three of mine, worth £75. Anyhow I managed to > reach the gold field, and in one day I got > £4 10s. worth of gold,, and the fever with it. After being unable to > walk, or scarcely stand, for about ten days, I started to walk back to the > seaport – 200 miles. All the provisions I had to carry me down were six > pounds of flour and four ounces of tea – neither sugar nor anything else. > > I counted 23 fresh graves on the road, all of which had been made since I > went up about a fortnight before. Some had been travelling alone, and had > lain down and died; and there the bodies lay till the next traveller came > along, and if they were not too much decomposed they were buried. If too > far gone, a few branches were thrown over them and there they were left. > > My expedition cost me £140, and I got £4 10s. in return. > ======================================================= > barb, ontario, canada. > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Colin / Robyn / and all Good to know that the transcriptions are reaching people who are connected with what went on. Sometimes one wonders whether the information is useful or not. Thanks for letting me know !! Barb, Ontario, Canada.

A valuable source of information Barb: some of it will stick. Well done :) On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Barb Ontario Canada < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello Penny: > > The full name of the newspaper is: > > PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News > > I've been transcribing the 1874 issues for a while now, but the > current issues have included a huge amount of Lancashire news; > hence why you are seeing so much of them at the moment. > > Barb, Ontario, Canada. > > > >

HI Barb, Which Penrith Herald are you getting these from? I mean is it Penrith, Cumbria or, somewhere else? Best Wishes, Penny On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Barb Ontario Canada via < [email protected]> wrote: > JAMES CLEMMET, jun., who has for some time past been practising as a > solicitor in Manchester, without, as it transpired inn court, having a > certificate, has been summoned at the Manchester City Police-court, for > obtaining the sum of 15s. from THOS. OLDHAM. The prosecutor said that he > went to the defendant’s office in Bloom-street, with the intention of > employing him, as he had before done, to conduct a case for him in the > police-court. There was a plate near the door bearing the words “JAMES > CLEMMET, jun., solicitor”. > > The witness saw the defendant, stated his case to him, and paid him a fee > of 15s., the defendant promising to appear and conduct the case, which came > on Friday. > > The witness was at court on that day, but CLEMMET was not present. > However,, the man who had been summoned did not appear, and the magistrates > granted a warrant for his apprehension. He was brought before the Court on > Monday, and the witness appeared against him, but the defendant did not > prosecute, as he had agreed to do. > > MR. HEADLAM: The question is whether CLEMMET has been obtaining money by > falsely representing himself as a solicitor. He must have known he could > not practise in this court without a certificate. > > MR. AMBLER did not think the case amounted to one of false pretence. > > MR. HEADLAM: I think it does. If he could not appear himself he might > have got somebody else to conduct the case. > > The case was adjourned, MR. HEADLAM remarking that it was a most > disgraceful affair. > ======================================================= > barb, ontario, canada. > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know; the news articles about prospectors was a sad look at what went on during those days; I'm guessing it didn't matter where or when. But it went with our histories in Lancashire. Barb, Ontario, Canada. -----Original Message----- From: Colin Rowley via Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:48 PM To: Barb Ontario Canada ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] PENRITH HERALD, September 5,1874 / LETTER FROM THE GOLD DIGGINGS. Thanks for that. Conditions were tough for prospectors in those days. It was tough anywhere prospectors went as many had no or little bush survival skills and scant resources. every now and then road crews come across the odd shallow grave of some poor traveller from the gold rush period. sadly, remains of these poor souls rarely have any identifying features and so remain unknown. Colin On 4 October 2015 at 03:43, Barb Ontario Canada via <[email protected]> wrote: > LETTER FROM THE GOLD DIGGINGS. > > A letter just received in Liverpool from an English emigrant in Australia > gives a graphic description of the sufferings endured by those who went to > the Palmer diggings. The letter is dated Brisbane, June, and the writer > says: > > “Since the 17th of March I have been very ill, but I am thankful to say I > am perfectly recovered. Since I last wrote I have had something fearful > to > undergo, and I am one of the lucky ones to have escaped as I have. > Hundreds of poor fellows have lost their lives, and what fearful deaths > some of them have had ! Some died from starvation, some were drowned, > others were killed by blacks, and hundreds were carried off by dysentery. > Even grass and rotten horseflesh were eagerly devoured. There were three > others who started with me. One died, and the other two are now in > hospital, and it is doubtful whether they will ever recover. > > We were nearly shipwrecked, and to save the vessel we had to smother 76 > horses, among which were three of mine, worth £75. Anyhow I managed to > reach the gold field, and in one day I got > £4 10s. worth of gold,, and the fever with it. After being unable to > walk, or scarcely stand, for about ten days, I started to walk back to the > seaport – 200 miles. All the provisions I had to carry me down were six > pounds of flour and four ounces of tea – neither sugar nor anything else. > > I counted 23 fresh graves on the road, all of which had been made since I > went up about a fortnight before. Some had been travelling alone, and had > lain down and died; and there the bodies lay till the next traveller came > along, and if they were not too much decomposed they were buried. If too > far gone, a few branches were thrown over them and there they were left. > > My expedition cost me £140, and I got £4 10s. in return. > ======================================================= > barb, ontario, canada. > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank You Penny. -----Original Message----- From: Penny Trueman via Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 5:23 PM To: Barb Ontario Canada Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] PENRITH HERALD, September 5,1874 / CHARGE OF FRAUD. (Correction) A valuable source of information Barb: some of it will stick. Well done :) On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Barb Ontario Canada < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello Penny: > > The full name of the newspaper is: > > PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News > > I've been transcribing the 1874 issues for a while now, but the > current issues have included a huge amount of Lancashire news; > hence why you are seeing so much of them at the moment. > > Barb, Ontario, Canada. > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Penny: The full name of the newspaper is: PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News I've been transcribing the 1874 issues for a while now, but the current issues have included a huge amount of Lancashire news; hence why you are seeing so much of them at the moment. Barb, Ontario, Canada.

JAMES CLEMMET, jun., who has for some time past been practising as a solicitor in Manchester, without, as it transpired inn court, having a certificate, has been summoned at the Manchester City Police-court, for obtaining the sum of 15s. from THOS. OLDHAM. The prosecutor said that he went to the defendant’s office in Bloom-street, with the intention of employing him, as he had before done, to conduct a case for him in the police-court. There was a plate near the door bearing the words “JAMES CLEMMET, jun., solicitor”. The witness saw the defendant, stated his case to him, and paid him a fee of 15s., the defendant promising to appear and conduct the case, which came on Friday. The witness was at court on that day, but CLEMMET was not present. However,, the man who had been summoned did not appear, and the magistrates granted a warrant for his apprehension. He was brought before the Court on Monday, and the witness appeared against him, but the defendant did not prosecute, as he had agreed to do. MR. HEADLAM: The question is whether CLEMMET has been obtaining money by falsely representing himself as a solicitor. He must have known he could not practise in this court without a certificate. MR. AMBLER did not think the case amounted to one of false pretence. MR. HEADLAM: I think it does. If he could not appear himself he might have got somebody else to conduct the case. The case was adjourned, MR. HEADLAM remarking that it was a most disgraceful affair. ======================================================= barb, ontario, canada.

LETTER FROM THE GOLD DIGGINGS. A letter just received in Liverpool from an English emigrant in Australia gives a graphic description of the sufferings endured by those who went to the Palmer diggings. The letter is dated Brisbane, June, and the writer says: “Since the 17th of March I have been very ill, but I am thankful to say I am perfectly recovered. Since I last wrote I have had something fearful to undergo, and I am one of the lucky ones to have escaped as I have. Hundreds of poor fellows have lost their lives, and what fearful deaths some of them have had ! Some died from starvation, some were drowned, others were killed by blacks, and hundreds were carried off by dysentery. Even grass and rotten horseflesh were eagerly devoured. There were three others who started with me. One died, and the other two are now in hospital, and it is doubtful whether they will ever recover. We were nearly shipwrecked, and to save the vessel we had to smother 76 horses, among which were three of mine, worth £75. Anyhow I managed to reach the gold field, and in one day I got £4 10s. worth of gold,, and the fever with it. After being unable to walk, or scarcely stand, for about ten days, I started to walk back to the seaport – 200 miles. All the provisions I had to carry me down were six pounds of flour and four ounces of tea – neither sugar nor anything else. I counted 23 fresh graves on the road, all of which had been made since I went up about a fortnight before. Some had been travelling alone, and had lain down and died; and there the bodies lay till the next traveller came along, and if they were not too much decomposed they were buried. If too far gone, a few branches were thrown over them and there they were left. My expedition cost me £140, and I got £4 10s. in return. ======================================================= barb, ontario, canada.

LETTER FROM THE GOLD DIGGINGS. A letter just received in Liverpool from an English emigrant in Australia gives a graphic description of the sufferings endured by those who went to the Palmer diggings. The letter is dated Brisbane, June, and the writer says: “Since the 17th of March I have been very ill, but I am thankful to say I am perfectly recovered. Since I last wrote I have had something fearful to undergo, and I am one of the lucky ones to have escaped as I have. Hundreds of poor fellows have lost their lives, and what fearful deaths some of them have had ! Some died from starvation, some were drowned, others were killed by blacks, and hundreds were carried off by dysentery. Even grass and rotten horseflesh were eagerly devoured. There were three others who started with me. One died, and the other two are now in hospital, and it is doubtful whether they will ever recover. We were nearly shipwrecked, and to save the vessel we had to smother 76 horses, among which were three of mine, worth £75. Anyhow I managed to reach the gold field, and in one day I got £4 10s. worth of gold,, and the fever with it. After being unable to walk, or scarcely stand, for about ten days, I started to walk back to the seaport – 200 miles. All the provisions I had to carry me down were six pounds of flour and four ounces of tea – neither sugar nor anything else. I counted 23 fresh graves on the road, all of which had been made since I went up about a fortnight before. Some had been travelling alone, and had lain down and died; and there the bodies lay till the next traveller came along, and if they were not too much decomposed they were buried. If too far gone, a few branches were thrown over them and there they were left. My expedition cost me £140, and I got £4 10s. in return. ======================================================= barb, ontario, canada.

DOUBLE EXECUTION AT LIVERPOOL HENRY FLANIGAN and MARY WILLIAMS, the two prisoners convicted of murder and sentenced to death at the recent Liverpool Assizes, by MR. JUSTICE ARCHIBALD, have been executed at Kirkdale Gaol, in the presence of the prison officials and the representatives of the press. FLANIGAN’s crime was one of a very brutal nature, he having murdered his aunt under circumstances of great aggravation, and although a reprieve was sought by his friends, there was but little hope of their endeavours being successful. FLANIGAN was a shoemaker by trade, and was employed by his aunt, and the murder took place on the 4th April, during which night the prisoner, after a fit of drunkenness strangled his relative in the kitchen, and robbed her of all the money she had about her. The case of the woman WILLIAMS was not of such a heinous character, she having been convicted of shooting a man named NICHOLAS MANNING at Bootle on the 20th April. There had been a quarrel between the sisters of the deceased and the prisoner, and, as alleged by the prosecution, the latter seeing the deceased man passing her house, took a pistol and shot him. The woman has throughout strenuously persisted that she was innocent, and that it was her husband (who has disappeared) who committed the fatal act. This assertion she repeatedly made, even on the scaffold. A great effort was made by the Mayor of Bootle and other persons to obtain a reprieve for the unfortunate woman, but in vain. Both prisoners were Roman Catholics, and listened to the administrations of the gaol chaplain with considerable interest. Upon the fatal morning, they rose at half-past five, after having spent a sleepless night, and at half-past six attended divine service in the chapel, where the Communion was administered, the prisoners confessed, and received absolution, the woman still asserting her innocence. Shortly before eight o’clock the culprits were brought out from the “reception room”, and taken up to the scaffold, supported by warders and followed by the chaplain, who recited the service. The man appeared dejected and even stupefied, and with the exception of one last despairing glance around, he took no notice of anything and did not speak. His arms were already pinioned, and his legs were now secured by means of a strap, and the white cap was drawn over his face. The executioner then adjusted the noose, and he stood waiting his fate. The woman was treated in the same way, a female warder being present by her side. During the operation of preparation – which seemed to those looking on to be terribly long, although actually only a few moments were occupied – she recited various prayers and the creed. She also protested her innocence, saying it was her husband who fired the pistol. Before the bolt was drawn she said, “God pardon me for my bygone sins”, and at the last moment she shook hands with the female warder, saying, “Good bye, God bless you all”. The drop was then let go, and the unhappy couple fell about five feet. The jerk consequent upon such a fall was apparently such as to produce instantaneous dislocation of the neck, for the bodies of the sufferers – of which, however, only the legs from the knees downwards could be seen, owing to the construction of the scaffold – seemed to become quiet after a few slight convulsive movements. They remained suspended for some time, and an inquest was subsequently held. The last double execution at Kirkdale was in April, 1873, and in Sept. of the same year, four convicts were hanged at the same place. The last occasion upon which a woman was hanged was in 1843, when BETTY ECCLES, whose crime created considerable excitement, suffered the extreme sentence of the law. =============================================================== barb, ontario, canada.

THE ROYAL VISIT TO LIVERPOOL. It has now been definitely arranged that the DUKE OF EDINBURGH will visit Liverpool, and that he will remain in the town for two or three days. His Royal Highness will be presented with an address from the Corporation, after which ceremony he will lay the foundation stone of the new Art Gallery, adjoining the Brown Museum and Library, and which will be erected at the expense of the Mayor, Alderman A. B. WALKER. In the evening the Duke will be entertained by the Mayor at a grand banquet at the Town Hall, to which the leading gentry of the town and neighbourhood will be invited. His Royal Highness will be present at the musical festival, and in the afternoon will probably take a short trip on the river. The Duke will formally inaugurate the Seamen’s Orphan Asylum, the fine building in Newsham park which was recently opened. His Royal Highness, during his visit, will not be the guest of any private individual, the Corporation having placed Newsham House at the disposal of the Duke and his suite. This is a handsome residence, pleasantly situated in Newsham – park, and is used by the Judges of the Assize during their stay in the town. ================================================================= barb, ontario, canada.

Hi Mary Thank you for your further input. This is a different family from the one I am interested in but useful nevertheless. KRs Peter > On 1 Oct 2015, at 18:23, Andrew Mason via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > These two I found at St Chads, Rochdale > 13th Feb 1763 Charles to John & Betty Butterworth, Shearer > 22nd Apr 1764 Mary to John & Betty Butterworth, Shearer > > Mary > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Peter Knott > Sent: 01 October 2015 17:48 > To: Andrew Mason;[email protected] > Subject: Re: [LAN] FW: BUTTERWORTH/CURROW Marriage at Bolton > > > Hello Mary > Thank you for your input. Your message certainly confirms that the word > 'Shearman' was in use in Bolton. > But may I ask what year and in which parish you find the baptisms please? > KRs > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Mason via > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 11:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LAN] FW: BUTTERWORTH/CURROW Marriage at Bolton > > > Hi Peter, > There are baptism’s for a John a Shearman on Lancashire Online Parish > Clerks. > Mary > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think that often the family didn't own a property, let alone have a whole terrace house to themselves. They might have moved up and down the street as family size and income demanded. good or bad landlords.... Word of mouth.....Bigger rooms, more rooms. Facilities... depending on the census year.... how far to the nearest tap or pump?.. No kitchens and bathrooms......Fireplace or no fireplace? .... (Upward mobility!) Family members as they got older may have rented a room nearby, apprentices sometimes boarded with the master. that is why it is always good to roam through a couple of streets, checking everybody. cheers Marg -----Original Message----- From: Carole Edwards Caruso via Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 8:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Street Addresses I notice in the censuses that people often lived on the same street, but the numerical address would change from census to census. For instance, in 1901, the address was 484 Oldham Road. In 1911, it was 440 Oldham Road. I assume these were terrace houses. Did the family actually move from residence to residence within the terrace? If so, why? Or was the numerical address changed from time to time? If the latter, why? Thanks for thoughts on this. Carole :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris, These two I found at St Chads, Rochdale 13th Feb 1763 Charles to John & Betty Butterworth, Shearer 22nd Apr 1764 Mary to John & Betty Butterworth, Shearer Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Peter Knott Sent: 01 October 2015 17:48 To: Andrew Mason;[email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] FW: BUTTERWORTH/CURROW Marriage at Bolton Hello Mary Thank you for your input. Your message certainly confirms that the word 'Shearman' was in use in Bolton. But may I ask what year and in which parish you find the baptisms please? KRs Peter -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Mason via Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 11:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] FW: BUTTERWORTH/CURROW Marriage at Bolton Hi Peter, There are baptism’s for a John a Shearman on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi Eric You really need to see the entry and indeed the adjacent ones. Emerging consensus seems to be that the occupation was in the sheep/wool/cloth area. Thank you for your interest. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Eric Millward via Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 11:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] LA BUTTERWORTH/CURROW Marriage at Bolton I haven't looked at the entry but a wild guess might be "Soil" man meaning night soil man (sanitation). Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10736 - Release Date: 10/01/15 :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mary Thank you for your input. Your message certainly confirms that the word 'Shearman' was in use in Bolton. But may I ask what year and in which parish you find the baptisms please? KRs Peter -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Mason via Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 11:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] FW: BUTTERWORTH/CURROW Marriage at Bolton Hi Peter, There are baptism’s for a John a Shearman on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I felt sure someone had already posted that there were baptisms showing he was a Shearman ? Shearman = Cloth cutter. Also a sheep shearer. Also a metal cutter From Colin Waters a Dictionary of Old Trades Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/10/2015 14:50, Peter Knott via wrote: > Hi Penny > Am quite taken with that suggestion because other grooms on the same page > are all weavers. > Thank you for your response. > KRs > Peter > > From: Penny Trueman > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 10:43 AM > To: Ruth ; [email protected] > Cc: Peter Knott > Subject: Re: [LAN] BUTTERWORTH/CURROW Marriage at Bolton > > Dear Peter, could it be a corruption of Shearman/Sherman? See: - > > > > http://www.rmhh.co.uk/occup/s.html > > > However I agree with Ruth that the initial letter IS slightly different to > the other 'S's in the page. > Best Wishes, Penny >

Hello June Yes - have traced five children of this couple (Henry, Samuel, John, Catherine and Alice) but sadly father's occupation is not stated on any of the baptism entries. Good suggestion though and many thanks. KRs Peter -----Original Message----- From: June Dowling via Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 11:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] BUTTERWORTH/CURROW Marriage at Bolton Peter -- have you found baptisms of this couple's children? Is his occupation shown on those? June From: Peter Knott via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2015, 9:59 Subject: [LAN] BUTTERWORTH/CURROW Marriage at Bolton Good Morning Listers Would SKS take a look at the above marriage PR entry at Bolton le Moors St Peter on 21 May 1761 please. The image is available within Manchester marriages on ancestry. I am unable to decipher the occupation of John BUTTERWORTH - it looks like Shoir Man, but what does that mean? The only definition of 'shoir' that I can find is that it is an obsolete version of 'shore' but does that make sense in the Bolton locality? Any other suggestions would be welcome. Many thanks Peter Knott :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message