Hi Cherryl It is quite likely although finding same may be the problem, systems may vary but the need for the records are likely the same, whether they survive is another matter Have a look at these two links which may lead you in the right direction <https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Scotland_Land_and_Property> And via <http://www.nas.gov.uk/catalogues/default.asp> <http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/researching-places> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 11/10/2015 03:33, Merv & Cherryl via wrote: > Hi. > > I know this is a Lancashire site but would Scotland keep the same detailed > agreements. > > Cherryl

You are most welcome What I would also suggest is making contact with the county records office, ask if they have anything on the two farms in question I have some tenancy agreements for some of my lot in Buckinghamshire, they are somewhat later than yours but I would say its worth asking The tenancy agreements can be very detailed They itemised what the farmer took over and when and the restrictions placed upon him, what he had to do by way of maintenance and repairs and what would happen when he vacated at the end of the period Very far from all survive but worth the question They may also be able to help with a location for Delph Hole Alston Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/10/2015 21:21, Katharine Harris via wrote: > Hello Nivard, > > Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to find Sowerbutts Farm for me. I had concluded that Edmund was most probably a tenant farmer, but I had not realised that their terms of 'Office' were for only 3 years-not long really. > > I will see if I can locate Delph Hole, Alston. > > Thank you so much, > > Katharine

Hello Nivard, Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to find Sowerbutts Farm for me. I had concluded that Edmund was most probably a tenant farmer, but I had not realised that their terms of 'Office' were for only 3 years-not long really. I will see if I can locate Delph Hole, Alston. Thank you so much, Katharine

Hi Katherine I will send you two attachments re Sowerbutts If you search googlemaps for Four Acre Ln, Thornley, Preston PR3 2TD you will find a Farm presently called Giles Farm This location was called Townleys in 1844 (OS map) Giles's was a little further North in 1844 Many farms changed hands, most were tenants and would farm for a period of years, often three The smaller and less profitable farms were often swallowed up into larger farms as time went by and farming methods improved I do not see Sowerbutts past 1844, there does not appear to be any buildings surviving in that location today but the map I shall send will pinpoint its location as best as I can make out Unfortunately the early map for Alston is not available so could not locate Delph Hole Alston but Alston is not far away from where Sowerbutts was, Alston is just south of Longridge Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/10/2015 19:01, Katharine Harris via wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I have been watching this list for a long time and wondered if anyone > can help me. > > In 1841 Census, my ggg grandfather, Edmund MERCER, transcribed as > Edward is listed as living with his family at Sower Butts Farm, > Thornley. In 1851, he has moved to Delph Hole, Alston and Sower Butts > Farm is no longer listed in any future census. > > My question is this: What happened to Sower Butts farm and are there > any buildings left now? I live some distance away, but I am due to > stay in the area from 25th Oct to 28th Oct 2015. If there was > anything left, I would love to try and see it. > > Where exactly is Delph Hole, Alston? > > Any help is appreciated. Thank you. > > Katharine

Hello Listers, I have been watching this list for a long time and wondered if anyone can help me. In 1841 Census, my ggg grandfather, Edmund MERCER, transcribed as Edward is listed as living with his family at Sower Butts Farm, Thornley. In 1851, he has moved to Delph Hole, Alston and Sower Butts Farm is no longer listed in any future census. My question is this: What happened to Sower Butts farm and are there any buildings left now? I live some distance away, but I am due to stay in the area from 25th Oct to 28th Oct 2015. If there was anything left, I would love to try and see it. Where exactly is Delph Hole, Alston? Any help is appreciated. Thank you. Katharine

Hello Listers, I have been watching this list for a long time and wondered if anyone can help me. In 1841 Census, my ggg grandfather, Edmund MERCER, transcribed as Edward is listed as living with his family at Sower Butts Farm, Thornley. In 1851, he has moved to Delph Hole, Alston and Sower Butts Farm is no longer listed in any future census. My question is this: What happened to Sower Butts farm and are there any buildings left now? I live some distance away, but I am due to stay in the area from 25th Oct to 28th Oct 2015. If there was anything left, I would love to try and see it. Where exactly is Delph Hole, Alston? Any help is appreciated. Thank you. Katharine

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Sally, I am so sorry for the loss of your mother. And may I also thank you for keeping us up to date with important entries despite the sadness you are enduring. Also must thank the volunteers who do all the transcribing that we all need in our family history searches. On 8 October 2015 at 08:00, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Be sure mail to the list is in plain text. > > When replying, please snip extraneous text and be sure to change the > subject line to reflect the content of your message. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Lancs OPC update May - September 2015 (sally roberts) > 2. Re: Lancs OPC update May - September 2015 (Lynne) > 3. Re: Lancs OPC update May - September 2015 (Pat's E-Mail) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:07:41 +0000 > From: sally roberts <[email protected]> > Subject: [LAN] Lancs OPC update May - September 2015 > To: englanfylde <[email protected]>, englangeneral > <[email protected]>, englanlancaster > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello listers, > > Apologies for the absence of posts regarding the Lancashire Online Parish > Clerks website. Unfortunately my life was swamped by looking after my mum > who sadly died last month. > > This post, therefore, is VERY long as it contains the details of the > records added since 11th May! The search engine has been updated to include > all records added up until 24th September and results will be returned in > any general searches carried out. > > 24 September 2015 > Baptisms 1892 to 1910?from the Workhouse of the Roman Catholic Church of > St Joseph, Blackburn > > Baptisms 1855 to 1865?from the Church of All Saints, in the District of > Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester > > Burials 1819 to 1823?from the New Jerusalem Temple, Salford > > Baptisms 1894 to 1896?from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of > Stalybridge > > 17 September 2015 > Baptisms 1900 to 1918?from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of > Darwen > Completing the Register of Baptisms for 1895 to 1918 > > Baptisms 1902 to 1904?from the Church of St Ambrose, Pendleton > > Baptisms 1895 to 1901?from the Church of St George, Pendleton > > Baptisms 1889 to 1904?from the Church of St Thomas, Pendleton > > Marriages 1936 to 1961?from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of > Warrington > > Baptisms 1599 to 1730, Marriages 1608 to 1729 and Burials 1607 to > 1729?from Newchurch Parish Church, Culcheth in the Parish of Winwick > Including Papist and Presbyterian Baptisms from this period > > 7 September 2015 > Burials 1813 to 1829?from the Church of St Margaret, Hollinwood > > Burials 1826 to 1832?from the Church of St Michael, Liverpool > > Burials 1945 to 1949?from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury > Completing the Register of Burials for 1840 to 1849 > > 3 September 2015 > Burials 1923 to 1940 and 1960 to 1984?from the Church of St John the > Evangelist, Pendlebury > > Baptisms 1827 to 1850, Marriages 1880 to 1895 and Burials 1827 to > 1848?from All Saints, Stand in the Parish of Whitefield > Records of Baptisms and Burials 1827 to 1846 from the Bishop's Transcripts > replaced with contents of the Parish Registers and extended to complete the > respective Register > > 1 September 2015 > Banns 1881 to 1889?from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Accrington > > Baptisms 1900 to 1905?from the Church of All Souls, in the District of > Ancoats, Manchester > > Marriages 1916 to 1929, 1992 to 1994 and 2011 to 2014?from the Church of > St Andrew, in the Parish of Burnley > > Baptisms 1937 to 1960 and Marriages 1911 to 1927?from the Church of St > James in the Parish of Burnley > > Marriages 1902 to 1911?from the Church of St Margaret, in the Parish of > Burnley > > Marriages 1857 to 1866 and 1877 to 1881 and Burials 1890 to 1901?from the > Church of St Matthew, Chadderton > > Marriages 1907 to 1912?from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the District of > Everton, Liverpool > Completion of the the Register of Marriages for 1899 to 1912 > > Marriages 1870 to 1877?from the Church of St Peter, in the District of > Everton, Liverpool > > Marriages 1899 to 1908?from the Church of St Saviour, in the District of > Everton, Liverpool > > Baptisms 1853 to 1871?from the Church of St James, Haslingden > > Banns 1894 to 1900?from the Church of St Peter, Haslingden > > Baptisms 1813 to 1826?from the Church of St Margaret of Antioch, Hollinwood > > Baptisms 1871 to 1872?from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool > > 17 August 2015 > Marriages 1888 to 1899?from the Church of St Saviour, in the district of > Everton, Liverpool > > Burials 1949 to 1960?from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury > > Marriages 1875 to 1893 and 1901 to 1909?from the Church of St George, > Pendleton > > Confirmations 1900 to 1950?from the Roman Catholic Church of the Mother of > God & St James, Pendleton > > Baptisms 1920 to 1932?from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of > Warrington > > Baptisms 1911 to 1915 and Marriages 1913 to 1918?from the Church of St > Luke, in the District of Weaste, Salford > > Marriages 1872 to 1882?from the Church of St Thomas, Werneth, Oldham > > Baptisms 1853 to 1875?from the Church of St Bartholomew, Westhoughton > > Baptisms 1882 to 1932?from the Church of St James The Great, Daisy Hill, > Westhoughton > > Baptisms 1826 to 1845?from the Church of St Peter, in the district of > Woolton, Liverpool > > 11 August 2015 > Banns 1871 to 1881?from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Accrington > > Marriages 1892 to 1920?from the Church of St James the Less , in the > District of Ancoats, Manchester > > Marriages 1869 to 1939?from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary in the > Parish of Bamber Bridge > > Burials 1614 to 1637?from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn > > Marriages 1920 to 1931?from the Church of St George the Martyr, Daubhill, > Bolton le Moors > > Baptisms 1894 to 1905?from the Church of St Saviour, in the district of > Everton, Liverpool > > Marriages 1897 to 1906?from the Church of St Mark, in the District of > Gorton, Manchester > > Baptisms 1905to 1915?from Christ Church, Ince > > Marriages 1863 to 1874 And 1879 to 1892?from the Church of the Holy > Trinity and St Mary Magdalene, Liverpool > > Burials 1721 to 1754?from All Saints in the Town of Wigan > > 5 August 2015 > Baptisms 1903 to 1910?from the Roman Catholic Church of St Aloysius, in > the District of Ardwick, Manchester > > Marriages 2000 to 2014?from the Church of St John the Baptist, Bretherton > > Burials 1901 to 1913?from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton > > Baptisms 1653 to 1685?from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the > Parish of Croston > A new transcription from the Original Register, containing many additional > entries > > Baptisms 1837 to 1853?from the Church of St James, Haslingden > > Burials 1831 to 1846?from the Church of St Luke, Heywood > > Baptisms 1947 to 1960?from the Church of St Mary, Ince > > Marriages 1837 to 1848?from the Church of St Luke, Liverpool > > Burials 2012 to 2015?from the Church of St Leonard, Padiham > More recent entries added > > Burials 2014 to 2015?from Padiham Public Cemetery > More recent entries added > > Trustees 1845 to 2007?from Nazareth Unitarian Chapel, Padiham > > Baptisms 1853 to 1879?from St Mary in the Town of Preston > > Baptisms 1786 to 1812?from the Church of St James the Less in the Parish > of Tatham > > Burials 1759 to 1769?from the Church of St Anne in the Parish of Turton > > Deaths 1911 to 1915?from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St > John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford > > Banns 1867 to 1967?from the Church of St John, Yealand Conyers > > 4 August 2015 > Marriages 1900 to 1911?from the Church of St James in the Parish of Burnley > Completing the Register of Marriages for 1896 to 1911 > > Burials 2014 to 2015?from Burnley Cemetery > More burials added the end of 2014 and beginning of 2015 > > Births 1778 to 1847, Burials 1787 to 1847 and Church Roll 1808 to > 1843?from Ebenezer Baptist, Burnley Lane > > 3 August 2015 > Baptisms 1844 to 1938?from the Church of St James, Brindle > Updated to add two missing pages > > Burials 1821 to 1851?from Rusholme Rd Cemetery, in the District of > Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester > > Baptisms 1828 to 1919, Marriages 1858 to 1915 and Burials 1828 to > 1933?from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Ellel > > Baptisms 1878 to 1917, Banns 1965 to 1974 and Marriages 1918 to 1979?from > the Church of St Laurence, Morecambe > > 20 July 2015 > Banns 1951 to 2013?from the Church of St Matthew, Bolton le Moors > > Marriages 1984 to 1999?from the Church of St John the Baptist, Bretherton > > Marriages 1940 to 1952?from the Church of St Luke the Evangelist, > Brierfield > > Baptisms 1900 to 1910, 1920 to 1936 and 1960 to 1990?from the Church of St > James in the Parish of Burnley > > Burials 1877 to 1890?from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton > > Marriages 1976 to 1988?from the Church of St Mary, Ince > > Marriages 1874 to 1879?from the Church of the Holy Trinity and St Mary > Magdalene, Liverpool > > Baptisms 1873 and Marriages 1860 to 1861 and 1863?from the Church of St > Peter, Liverpool > > Marriages 1888 to 1897?from St Mary in the Town of Preston > > Baptisms 1721 to 1778 and Marriages 1721 to 1754?from All Saints in the > Town of Wigan > > Deaths 1918 to 1921 and 1928 to 1930?from the Roman Catholic Church of All > Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford > > Baptisms 1732 to 1752, Marriages 1733 to 1754 and Burials 1733 to > 1752?from the Church of St Bartholomew, Westhoughton > > 25 June 2015 > Marriages 1863 to 1905?from the Roman Catholic Church of St Aloysius, in > the District of Ardwick, Manchester > > Baptisms 1862 to 1866 and 1903 to 1922?Baptisms the Roman Catholic Church > of St Mary in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne > > Banns 1843 to 2014 and Marriages 1973 to 1984?from the Church of St John > the Baptist, Bretherton > > Burials 1813 to 1862?from the Church of St James, Brindle > Updated to add a missing page > > Baptisms 1835 to 1837?from Curzon St Primitive Methodist in the Parish of > Burnley > Adding a page missing from the original source > > Burials 1942 to 1947?from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton > > Burials 1653 to 1680?from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the > Parish of Croston > Reworked with additional entries added > > Baptisms 1944 to 2013?from the Church of St Paul, Halliwell, Bolton > > Baptisms 1863 to 1874?from the Church of St James the Less, in the > district of Kirkdale, Liverpool > > Church Roll 1859 to 1916?from the Independent Chapel, Little Lever in > Bolton le Moors > > Marriages 1850 to 1863?from the Church of the Holy Trinity and St Mary > Magdalene, Liverpool > > Baptisms 1837 to 1838 and 1869 to 1870?from the Church of St Peter, > Liverpool > > Marriages 1871 to 1893?from the Church of the Holy Trinity, Oldham > > Baptisms 1665 to 1683?from the Church of St Chad, Rochdale > Updated using the Parish Register as the source > > Baptisms 1907 to 1920?from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of > Warrington > > Deaths 1915 to 1918?from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St > John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford > > 18 June 2015 > Marriages 1953 to 2010?from the Church of St Matthew, Bolton le Moors > > Marriages 1927 to 1940?from the Church of St Luke the Evangelist, > Brierfield > > Marriages 1885 to 1899?from Victoria Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, in the > District of Cheetham, Manchester > > Baptisms 1876 to 1885?from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Eccles > > Marriages 1837 to 1873?from the Church of St Luke, Heywood > > Baptisms 1849 to 1899?from the Church of St Mary in the Baum, Wardleworth > in the Parish of Rochdale > > 9 June 2015 > Baptisms 1910 to 1921?from the Roman Catholic Church of St Aloysius, in > the District of Ardwick, Manchester > > Marriages 1884 to 1924?from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter and St > Paul, Bolton le Moors > > Church Roll 1863 to 1925?from St George's Rd Congregational Church, Little > Bolton > > Church Roll 1805 to 1863?from Duke's Alley Chapel, Bolton le Moors > > Burials 1857 to 1867?from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton > > Baptisms 1911 to 1944?from the Church of St Paul, Halliwell, Bolton > > Marriages 1961 to 1985?from the Church of St Nathaniel, in the Parish of > Hindley > > Marriages 1826 to 1835?from the Church of St Michael, Liverpool > > Deaths 1922 to 1928 and Burials 1938 to 1942?from the Roman Catholic > Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford > > 22 May 2015 > Baptisms 1842 to 1855?from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter and St > Paul, Bolton le Moors > > Marriages 1744 to 1754?from the Church of St Michael in the Parish of > Cockerham > > Burials 1852 to 1865?from the Church of St Margaret, Hollinwood > > Baptisms 1899 to 1905?from Christ Church, Ince > > Baptisms 1880 to 1889 and 1910 to 1914?from the Church of St Thomas, > Pendleton > > Marriages 1892 to 1922?from the Church of Holy Trinity and St Mary > Magdalene, Liverpool > > Baptisms 1873 to 1874?from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool > > Baptisms 1902 to 1919?from the Church of St Barnabas in the Parish of > Warrington > > > Regards, > Sally > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:49:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00) > From: Lynne <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LAN] Lancs OPC update May - September 2015 > To: sally roberts <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > [email protected]ink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Oh, Sally, I'm so very sorry to read about your mum. You and your family > are in my thoughts and prayers. > > Kindest regards, > Lynne > > > sally roberts wrote: > > > >Hello listers, > > > >Apologies for the absence of posts regarding the Lancashire Online Parish > Clerks website. Unfortunately my life was swamped by looking after my mum > who sadly died last month. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 20:16:10 -0400 > From: "Pat's E-Mail" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LAN] Lancs OPC update May - September 2015 > To: sally roberts <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Cc: englanlancaster <[email protected]>, englanfylde > <[email protected]>, englangeneral < > [email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > So sorry for your loss. Some people are missed more than words can say. > > Pat in Florida > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:07 AM, sally roberts via <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hello listers, > > > > Apologies for the absence of posts regarding the Lancashire Online > Parish Clerks website. Unfortunately my life was swamped by looking after > my mum who sadly died last month. > > > > This post, therefore, is VERY long as it contains the details of the > records added since 11th May! The search engine has been updated to include > all records added up until 24th September and results will be returned in > any general searches carried out. > > > > 24 September 2015 > > Baptisms 1892 to 1910 from the Workhouse of the Roman Catholic Church of > St Joseph, Blackburn > > > > Baptisms 1855 to 1865 from the Church of All Saints, in the District of > Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester > > > > Burials 1819 to 1823 from the New Jerusalem Temple, Salford > > > > Baptisms 1894 to 1896 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of > Stalybridge > > > > 17 September 2015 > > Baptisms 1900 to 1918 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of > Darwen > > Completing the Register of Baptisms for 1895 to 1918 > > > > Baptisms 1902 to 1904 from the Church of St Ambrose, Pendleton > > > > Baptisms 1895 to 1901 from the Church of St George, Pendleton > > > > Baptisms 1889 to 1904 from the Church of St Thomas, Pendleton > > > > Marriages 1936 to 1961 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of > Warrington > > > > Baptisms 1599 to 1730, Marriages 1608 to 1729 and Burials 1607 to 1729 > from Newchurch Parish Church, Culcheth in the Parish of Winwick > > Including Papist and Presbyterian Baptisms from this period > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LANCSGEN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the LANCSGEN mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LANCSGEN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 247 > ***************************************** >

So sorry for your loss. Some people are missed more than words can say. Pat in Florida Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:07 AM, sally roberts via <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello listers, > > Apologies for the absence of posts regarding the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website. Unfortunately my life was swamped by looking after my mum who sadly died last month. > > This post, therefore, is VERY long as it contains the details of the records added since 11th May! The search engine has been updated to include all records added up until 24th September and results will be returned in any general searches carried out. > > 24 September 2015 > Baptisms 1892 to 1910 from the Workhouse of the Roman Catholic Church of St Joseph, Blackburn > > Baptisms 1855 to 1865 from the Church of All Saints, in the District of Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester > > Burials 1819 to 1823 from the New Jerusalem Temple, Salford > > Baptisms 1894 to 1896 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Stalybridge > > 17 September 2015 > Baptisms 1900 to 1918 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of Darwen > Completing the Register of Baptisms for 1895 to 1918 > > Baptisms 1902 to 1904 from the Church of St Ambrose, Pendleton > > Baptisms 1895 to 1901 from the Church of St George, Pendleton > > Baptisms 1889 to 1904 from the Church of St Thomas, Pendleton > > Marriages 1936 to 1961 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Warrington > > Baptisms 1599 to 1730, Marriages 1608 to 1729 and Burials 1607 to 1729 from Newchurch Parish Church, Culcheth in the Parish of Winwick > Including Papist and Presbyterian Baptisms from this period

Hello listers, Apologies for the absence of posts regarding the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website. Unfortunately my life was swamped by looking after my mum who sadly died last month. This post, therefore, is VERY long as it contains the details of the records added since 11th May! The search engine has been updated to include all records added up until 24th September and results will be returned in any general searches carried out. 24 September 2015 Baptisms 1892 to 1910 from the Workhouse of the Roman Catholic Church of St Joseph, Blackburn Baptisms 1855 to 1865 from the Church of All Saints, in the District of Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester Burials 1819 to 1823 from the New Jerusalem Temple, Salford Baptisms 1894 to 1896 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Stalybridge 17 September 2015 Baptisms 1900 to 1918 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the Parish of Darwen Completing the Register of Baptisms for 1895 to 1918 Baptisms 1902 to 1904 from the Church of St Ambrose, Pendleton Baptisms 1895 to 1901 from the Church of St George, Pendleton Baptisms 1889 to 1904 from the Church of St Thomas, Pendleton Marriages 1936 to 1961 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Warrington Baptisms 1599 to 1730, Marriages 1608 to 1729 and Burials 1607 to 1729 from Newchurch Parish Church, Culcheth in the Parish of Winwick Including Papist and Presbyterian Baptisms from this period 7 September 2015 Burials 1813 to 1829 from the Church of St Margaret, Hollinwood Burials 1826 to 1832 from the Church of St Michael, Liverpool Burials 1945 to 1949 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury Completing the Register of Burials for 1840 to 1849 3 September 2015 Burials 1923 to 1940 and 1960 to 1984 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury Baptisms 1827 to 1850, Marriages 1880 to 1895 and Burials 1827 to 1848 from All Saints, Stand in the Parish of Whitefield Records of Baptisms and Burials 1827 to 1846 from the Bishop's Transcripts replaced with contents of the Parish Registers and extended to complete the respective Register 1 September 2015 Banns 1881 to 1889 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Accrington Baptisms 1900 to 1905 from the Church of All Souls, in the District of Ancoats, Manchester Marriages 1916 to 1929, 1992 to 1994 and 2011 to 2014 from the Church of St Andrew, in the Parish of Burnley Baptisms 1937 to 1960 and Marriages 1911 to 1927 from the Church of St James in the Parish of Burnley Marriages 1902 to 1911 from the Church of St Margaret, in the Parish of Burnley Marriages 1857 to 1866 and 1877 to 1881 and Burials 1890 to 1901 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Marriages 1907 to 1912 from the Church of St Cuthbert, in the District of Everton, Liverpool Completion of the the Register of Marriages for 1899 to 1912 Marriages 1870 to 1877 from the Church of St Peter, in the District of Everton, Liverpool Marriages 1899 to 1908 from the Church of St Saviour, in the District of Everton, Liverpool Baptisms 1853 to 1871 from the Church of St James, Haslingden Banns 1894 to 1900 from the Church of St Peter, Haslingden Baptisms 1813 to 1826 from the Church of St Margaret of Antioch, Hollinwood Baptisms 1871 to 1872 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool 17 August 2015 Marriages 1888 to 1899 from the Church of St Saviour, in the district of Everton, Liverpool Burials 1949 to 1960 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Pendlebury Marriages 1875 to 1893 and 1901 to 1909 from the Church of St George, Pendleton Confirmations 1900 to 1950 from the Roman Catholic Church of the Mother of God & St James, Pendleton Baptisms 1920 to 1932 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Warrington Baptisms 1911 to 1915 and Marriages 1913 to 1918 from the Church of St Luke, in the District of Weaste, Salford Marriages 1872 to 1882 from the Church of St Thomas, Werneth, Oldham Baptisms 1853 to 1875 from the Church of St Bartholomew, Westhoughton Baptisms 1882 to 1932 from the Church of St James The Great, Daisy Hill, Westhoughton Baptisms 1826 to 1845 from the Church of St Peter, in the district of Woolton, Liverpool 11 August 2015 Banns 1871 to 1881 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Accrington Marriages 1892 to 1920 from the Church of St James the Less , in the District of Ancoats, Manchester Marriages 1869 to 1939 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary in the Parish of Bamber Bridge Burials 1614 to 1637 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn Marriages 1920 to 1931 from the Church of St George the Martyr, Daubhill, Bolton le Moors Baptisms 1894 to 1905 from the Church of St Saviour, in the district of Everton, Liverpool Marriages 1897 to 1906 from the Church of St Mark, in the District of Gorton, Manchester Baptisms 1905to 1915 from Christ Church, Ince Marriages 1863 to 1874 And 1879 to 1892 from the Church of the Holy Trinity and St Mary Magdalene, Liverpool Burials 1721 to 1754 from All Saints in the Town of Wigan 5 August 2015 Baptisms 1903 to 1910 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Aloysius, in the District of Ardwick, Manchester Marriages 2000 to 2014 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Bretherton Burials 1901 to 1913 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Baptisms 1653 to 1685 from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the Parish of Croston A new transcription from the Original Register, containing many additional entries Baptisms 1837 to 1853 from the Church of St James, Haslingden Burials 1831 to 1846 from the Church of St Luke, Heywood Baptisms 1947 to 1960 from the Church of St Mary, Ince Marriages 1837 to 1848 from the Church of St Luke, Liverpool Burials 2012 to 2015 from the Church of St Leonard, Padiham More recent entries added Burials 2014 to 2015 from Padiham Public Cemetery More recent entries added Trustees 1845 to 2007 from Nazareth Unitarian Chapel, Padiham Baptisms 1853 to 1879 from St Mary in the Town of Preston Baptisms 1786 to 1812 from the Church of St James the Less in the Parish of Tatham Burials 1759 to 1769 from the Church of St Anne in the Parish of Turton Deaths 1911 to 1915 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford Banns 1867 to 1967 from the Church of St John, Yealand Conyers 4 August 2015 Marriages 1900 to 1911 from the Church of St James in the Parish of Burnley Completing the Register of Marriages for 1896 to 1911 Burials 2014 to 2015 from Burnley Cemetery More burials added the end of 2014 and beginning of 2015 Births 1778 to 1847, Burials 1787 to 1847 and Church Roll 1808 to 1843 from Ebenezer Baptist, Burnley Lane 3 August 2015 Baptisms 1844 to 1938 from the Church of St James, Brindle Updated to add two missing pages Burials 1821 to 1851 from Rusholme Rd Cemetery, in the District of Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester Baptisms 1828 to 1919, Marriages 1858 to 1915 and Burials 1828 to 1933 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Ellel Baptisms 1878 to 1917, Banns 1965 to 1974 and Marriages 1918 to 1979 from the Church of St Laurence, Morecambe 20 July 2015 Banns 1951 to 2013 from the Church of St Matthew, Bolton le Moors Marriages 1984 to 1999 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Bretherton Marriages 1940 to 1952 from the Church of St Luke the Evangelist, Brierfield Baptisms 1900 to 1910, 1920 to 1936 and 1960 to 1990 from the Church of St James in the Parish of Burnley Burials 1877 to 1890 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Marriages 1976 to 1988 from the Church of St Mary, Ince Marriages 1874 to 1879 from the Church of the Holy Trinity and St Mary Magdalene, Liverpool Baptisms 1873 and Marriages 1860 to 1861 and 1863 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Marriages 1888 to 1897 from St Mary in the Town of Preston Baptisms 1721 to 1778 and Marriages 1721 to 1754 from All Saints in the Town of Wigan Deaths 1918 to 1921 and 1928 to 1930 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford Baptisms 1732 to 1752, Marriages 1733 to 1754 and Burials 1733 to 1752 from the Church of St Bartholomew, Westhoughton 25 June 2015 Marriages 1863 to 1905 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Aloysius, in the District of Ardwick, Manchester Baptisms 1862 to 1866 and 1903 to 1922 Baptisms the Roman Catholic Church of St Mary in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Banns 1843 to 2014 and Marriages 1973 to 1984 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Bretherton Burials 1813 to 1862 from the Church of St James, Brindle Updated to add a missing page Baptisms 1835 to 1837 from Curzon St Primitive Methodist in the Parish of Burnley Adding a page missing from the original source Burials 1942 to 1947 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Burials 1653 to 1680 from the Church of St Michael and All Angels in the Parish of Croston Reworked with additional entries added Baptisms 1944 to 2013 from the Church of St Paul, Halliwell, Bolton Baptisms 1863 to 1874 from the Church of St James the Less, in the district of Kirkdale, Liverpool Church Roll 1859 to 1916 from the Independent Chapel, Little Lever in Bolton le Moors Marriages 1850 to 1863 from the Church of the Holy Trinity and St Mary Magdalene, Liverpool Baptisms 1837 to 1838 and 1869 to 1870 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Marriages 1871 to 1893 from the Church of the Holy Trinity, Oldham Baptisms 1665 to 1683 from the Church of St Chad, Rochdale Updated using the Parish Register as the source Baptisms 1907 to 1920 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Warrington Deaths 1915 to 1918 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford 18 June 2015 Marriages 1953 to 2010 from the Church of St Matthew, Bolton le Moors Marriages 1927 to 1940 from the Church of St Luke the Evangelist, Brierfield Marriages 1885 to 1899 from Victoria Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, in the District of Cheetham, Manchester Baptisms 1876 to 1885 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Eccles Marriages 1837 to 1873 from the Church of St Luke, Heywood Baptisms 1849 to 1899 from the Church of St Mary in the Baum, Wardleworth in the Parish of Rochdale 9 June 2015 Baptisms 1910 to 1921 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Aloysius, in the District of Ardwick, Manchester Marriages 1884 to 1924 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter and St Paul, Bolton le Moors Church Roll 1863 to 1925 from St George's Rd Congregational Church, Little Bolton Church Roll 1805 to 1863 from Duke's Alley Chapel, Bolton le Moors Burials 1857 to 1867 from the Church of St Matthew, Chadderton Baptisms 1911 to 1944 from the Church of St Paul, Halliwell, Bolton Marriages 1961 to 1985 from the Church of St Nathaniel, in the Parish of Hindley Marriages 1826 to 1835 from the Church of St Michael, Liverpool Deaths 1922 to 1928 and Burials 1938 to 1942 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, in the District of Weaste, Salford 22 May 2015 Baptisms 1842 to 1855 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Peter and St Paul, Bolton le Moors Marriages 1744 to 1754 from the Church of St Michael in the Parish of Cockerham Burials 1852 to 1865 from the Church of St Margaret, Hollinwood Baptisms 1899 to 1905 from Christ Church, Ince Baptisms 1880 to 1889 and 1910 to 1914 from the Church of St Thomas, Pendleton Marriages 1892 to 1922 from the Church of Holy Trinity and St Mary Magdalene, Liverpool Baptisms 1873 to 1874 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Baptisms 1902 to 1919 from the Church of St Barnabas in the Parish of Warrington Regards, Sally

Oh, Sally, I'm so very sorry to read about your mum. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. Kindest regards, Lynne sally roberts wrote: > >Hello listers, > >Apologies for the absence of posts regarding the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website. Unfortunately my life was swamped by looking after my mum who sadly died last month.

David You don't need to have a subscription to ancestry as the NSW records are available for free on their own website https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-to-immi gration-and-shipping-records Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Railton via Sent: 05 October 2015 19:26 To: 'Christine Benson'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 Marvellous Christine. I have been looking for him for years. It must be him, especially the crew list as I know of no other Nathaniel Clarke born Douglas. I don't see your sources on Ancestry; do you know of on-line Australian records as I may, at some time in the future, be looking for others there. I think that the first thing I will do is subscribe to the New South Wales Rootsweb list. Any other suggestions? Thank you again. -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 05 October 2015 16:53 To: David Railton; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 Hi David, Could this be him? New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 PASSENGER LISTS NAME: Nathanael Clarke BIRTH: abt 1854 ORIGIN: Liverpool DEPARTURE: Burrand Intat ARRIVAL: 31 Aug 1879 - Sydney, New South Wales And this? New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Seamen, 1859-1936 CREW LISTS NAME: Nathaniel Clarke BIRTH: Douglas CIVIL: 14 Nov 1884 Let me know if you can't access these Christine -----Original Message----- From: David Railton via Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 4:25 PM To: LANCSGEN Subject: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 I am trying to find out what happened to my ggg grandfather's brother, Nathaniel CLARKE after my last sighting of him in a 1875 record. > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David, The only suggestion I can think of besides Rootsweb is to try Trove, the newspaper search. But I am sure the Aussies will be able to think of some more suggestions. Christine -----Original Message----- From: David Railton Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 7:26 PM To: 'Christine Benson' ; [email protected] Subject: RE: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 Marvellous Christine. I have been looking for him for years. It must be him, especially the crew list as I know of no other Nathaniel Clarke born Douglas. I don't see your sources on Ancestry; do you know of on-line Australian records as I may, at some time in the future, be looking for others there. I think that the first thing I will do is subscribe to the New South Wales Rootsweb list. Any other suggestions? Thank you again. -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 05 October 2015 16:53 To: David Railton; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 Hi David, Could this be him? New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 PASSENGER LISTS NAME: Nathanael Clarke BIRTH: abt 1854 ORIGIN: Liverpool DEPARTURE: Burrand Intat ARRIVAL: 31 Aug 1879 - Sydney, New South Wales And this? New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Seamen, 1859-1936 CREW LISTS NAME: Nathaniel Clarke BIRTH: Douglas CIVIL: 14 Nov 1884 Let me know if you can't access these Christine -----Original Message----- From: David Railton via Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 4:25 PM To: LANCSGEN Subject: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 I am trying to find out what happened to my ggg grandfather's brother, Nathaniel CLARKE after my last sighting of him in a 1875 record. >

Hi David, I have world wide access, if you haven't that's why you can't find them. They are under Australia. I will send the transcriptions here and try to send the images off list. And I have found another one that might be him. Record Image View Add alternate information Report issue Name: Nathanael Clarke Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Age: 25 Port of Departure: Burrand Intat Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 31 Aug 1879 Vessel Name: Magdala Origin Location: Liverpool Save Cancel Record Image View Add alternate information Report issue Name: Nathaniel Clarke Birth Place: Douglas Engagement or Discharge Date: 14 Nov 1884 Vessel: Sir William Wallace Record Place: New South Wales, Australia Save Cancel A possible Record Image View Add alternate information Report issue Name: Nathaniel Clarke Sponsor Name: Hugh Hanlon Refund Date: Feb 1881 Immigration Group: Name Nathaniel Clarke Roda Clarke Catherine Clarke Elizabeth Clarke Thomas Clarke Save Cancel Record Image View Add alternate information Report issue Name: Nathael Clarke Birth Place: Douglas Engagement or Discharge Date: 30 Jan 1884 Vessel: Firth of Forth Record Place: New South Wales, Australia Save Cancel Christine -----Original Message----- From: David Railton Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 7:26 PM To: 'Christine Benson' ; [email protected] Subject: RE: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 Marvellous Christine. I have been looking for him for years. It must be him, especially the crew list as I know of no other Nathaniel Clarke born Douglas. I don't see your sources on Ancestry; do you know of on-line Australian records as I may, at some time in the future, be looking for others there. I think that the first thing I will do is subscribe to the New South Wales Rootsweb list. Any other suggestions? Thank you again.

Marvellous Christine. I have been looking for him for years. It must be him, especially the crew list as I know of no other Nathaniel Clarke born Douglas. I don't see your sources on Ancestry; do you know of on-line Australian records as I may, at some time in the future, be looking for others there. I think that the first thing I will do is subscribe to the New South Wales Rootsweb list. Any other suggestions? Thank you again. -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 05 October 2015 16:53 To: David Railton; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 Hi David, Could this be him? New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 PASSENGER LISTS NAME: Nathanael Clarke BIRTH: abt 1854 ORIGIN: Liverpool DEPARTURE: Burrand Intat ARRIVAL: 31 Aug 1879 - Sydney, New South Wales And this? New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Seamen, 1859-1936 CREW LISTS NAME: Nathaniel Clarke BIRTH: Douglas CIVIL: 14 Nov 1884 Let me know if you can't access these Christine -----Original Message----- From: David Railton via Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 4:25 PM To: LANCSGEN Subject: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 I am trying to find out what happened to my ggg grandfather's brother, Nathaniel CLARKE after my last sighting of him in a 1875 record. >

Hi David, Could this be him? New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 PASSENGER LISTS NAME: Nathanael Clarke BIRTH: abt 1854 ORIGIN: Liverpool DEPARTURE: Burrand Intat ARRIVAL: 31 Aug 1879 - Sydney, New South Wales And this? New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Seamen, 1859-1936 CREW LISTS NAME: Nathaniel Clarke BIRTH: Douglas CIVIL: 14 Nov 1884 Let me know if you can't access these Christine -----Original Message----- From: David Railton via Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 4:25 PM To: LANCSGEN Subject: [LAN] Nathaniel CLARKE b 1852 I am trying to find out what happened to my ggg grandfather's brother, Nathaniel CLARKE after my last sighting of him in a 1875 record. >

I am trying to find out what happened to my ggg grandfather's brother, Nathaniel CLARKE after my last sighting of him in a 1875 record. Nathaniel was the son of Peter Clarke, a Liverpool customs officer, and his wife Sarah nee Eccles. He was born at Douglas, Isle of Man in 1852 while his father was posted there. I have his birth and baptism record and I see him in the 1861 census living at Thomaston Street, Kirkdale. I also have a record of his enlistment in the Merchant Navy in 1866 and his 2nd Mates certificate of 1875 when he is described as living at 18 Jolliffe Street Liverpool. After that I can find no trace of him. Does anyone know any more about him? David Railton

Elaine, I have already responded separately about Edward Bleazard (senior) -- but I have now looked for the Edward born 1803. (I'm referring to him as Edward junior). I cannot see him, wife Jane, or daughter Christiana on the 1841 census. Have you found them? Nor do Edward and Jane seem to be around in 1851. Nor can I find a marriage at an appropriate time between an Edward Bleazard and Jane anywhere. (There is a marriage in 1810 in Lancaster to Jane Whiteside -- but that's too early and the wrong occupation for Edward (this one's a Hatter as opposed to a Labourer).) Edward Bleazard (junior) and Jane are therefore a bit of a mystery at the moment. Really sorry not to have been able to help. June Hi, I have an Edward baptised in 1803 to an Edward and Agnes in Melling near Hornby. (If I have the correct Edward) The 1803 Edward was married to Jane and father to Christiana (bap Lancaster)  who married James Topping. Could anyone help me with who Jane was...I found one on the Mormon site but it was a bit of a distance away. Is the Edward baptised in Melling actually the father of Christiana? Who was Agnes married to the first Edward? Where was the first Edward from? Thank you for any help.  I will be away for a couple of weeks so do not expect a response from me until Canadian Thanksgiving weekend. Elaine :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all Members of the LPRS recently received a CD containing the final addition to the published Rainford Registers, Volume NC 08 Rainford Chapel 1813 - 1841. (See http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol3/pp382-386 and http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Rainford/ for information about Rainford.) There are quite a few old registers available through the LPRS. Please visit the society's web site at http://www.lprs.org.uk/ and look under Publications and Special Offers for what is available. If you are a member of the LPRS, note in your diary that the AGM will be held at 1 pm on Saturday, 16 April 2016. Lynne

What a great timely reminder Barbara of those who chose to leave Lancashire and sail to the unknown, in the hope of a better life. My husband's possible GGrandfather - EDWARD "THOMAS" CLARK b. 1838 last seen in Lancashire in 1851 Census, living with his parents Labourer, THOMAS and Wife, ALICE nee WILKINSON CLARK in Lower Booths, aged 14 yrs., Bobbin Setter in Cotton Mill. Sailed to Victoria, Australia alone it seems, possibly as a deckhand - Arrived in the Goldfields around Heathcote about 1860. Thereafter, unable to read or write, struggled as a bush Labourer and Miner. Married a girl, Maria, a Servant, from London, in 1871 in Heathcote, Victoria, four children born to her in the Goldfields of Victoria, no Father named for three sons born before her Marriage, the last child, a girl born after wedlock died from a scalding accident aged 3 yrs. Maria Clarke remained a Domestic Servant in the Goldfields until her disappearance possibly to Melbourne, where she died alone. EDWARD "THOMAS" CLARKE the "e" added on arrival in Melbourne, Victoria, disappeared from his Marriage after this accident in 1877 and is thought to have worked on a property in Northern Victoria for approx.. 23 years, before being killed by the collapse of a dis-used Well, which he had built some years earlier, when the owner asked for it to be re-opened. His body was never recovered. The evidence of this man's life was he was known to be English, had worked on the Property for 23 years, possible family unknown. Two of Maria's sons survived to adulthood having changed their surnames to CLARKE. Whether EDWARD "THOMAS" CLARK was the Father, is unknown. However, second son, HENRY WILKINSON CLARKE's Christian names indicated the "Wilkinson" name could have been taken from "Thomas's" Mother's maiden name. The third son WILLIAM EDWARD CLARKE was my husband's Grandfather. MARIA's brother, HENRY WELCH, also ended up in the Victorian Goldfields, only to be killed by a landslide. The only evidence of any of the above, has come from surviving Victorian records, as the only clue as to EDWARD "THOMAS' CLARK's Lancashire history was his Marriage Cert. in which his name was THOMAS CLARKE, he stated he was a "Mariner" and his Father, Thomas Clarke, an Architect.....A complete stretch from the truth, but I found him anyway. The sons did not speak of their parents, however it was known through my Father in Law, son of William Edward Clarke, that "Thomas" had a brother, a Watchmaker, back home in Lancashire, England. THAT man was WILLIAM CLARK b. 1832 of 10 Oak Street, Rawtenstall who died in 1897. Perhaps he too had been looking for his brother, EDWARD THOMAS. EDWARD "THOMAS" CLARK and his wife MARIA WELCH may have chosen very different paths in life had they known the grim outcomes for so many who were lured into the rough and dangerous Goldfields, throughout the World during those times. Both had arrived paying their own way, to find that better life which had been promised to so many. Cheers, Robyn --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus