Well put, Phil. :) In any case it seems to me that Ancestry have an issue with Microsoft's new '10' version (which does not use Java) It's a standoff. Not the only one's either, I suspect. But all will settle eventually. In the meantime we can all use the/our existing (if any) tree software that we have paid for. Their loss, not ours. On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Phil Marsden via <[email protected]> wrote: > I think we all need to take a rational look at the situation. > > Just because Ancestry are not going to support FTM does mean that we all > have to go out and buy new software, if you have version of FTM that you > are > happy with, that you have used for many years, then nothing has changed - > keep with what you have! Yes, you may not be able to sync with the Ancestry > website in future, but this will probably be the case if you change your > software. > > If you upgrade your operating system (OS) or change your computer your > existing software will probably run OK, if not you can probably set the > system to run the program with previous versions of the OS. > > Someone said about using another program because they "had used it for 30 > years," but there is nothing to prevent any other company from ceasing > software as Ancestry are doing so you may not be any better off by > changing. > > By far the greatest risk to your data is failure of your hard drive in your > computer, if you do not back up frequently to external flash memory / drive > / CD, etc., and your HD fails - you will lose everything (no your local > computer store or the wizard next door will not be able to get it back for > you!!). So back up frequently and keep your original set up discs and you > should be OK. > > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think we all need to take a rational look at the situation. Just because Ancestry are not going to support FTM does mean that we all have to go out and buy new software, if you have version of FTM that you are happy with, that you have used for many years, then nothing has changed - keep with what you have! Yes, you may not be able to sync with the Ancestry website in future, but this will probably be the case if you change your software. If you upgrade your operating system (OS) or change your computer your existing software will probably run OK, if not you can probably set the system to run the program with previous versions of the OS. Someone said about using another program because they "had used it for 30 years," but there is nothing to prevent any other company from ceasing software as Ancestry are doing so you may not be any better off by changing. By far the greatest risk to your data is failure of your hard drive in your computer, if you do not back up frequently to external flash memory / drive / CD, etc., and your HD fails - you will lose everything (no your local computer store or the wizard next door will not be able to get it back for you!!). So back up frequently and keep your original set up discs and you should be OK.

There's no need to do anything at the moment. The ending of support simply means that updates won't be offered and Ancestry won't answer questions about the product. Your Family Tree Maker will continue to work just as it does now. On another list, there are reports that FTM works on all recent version of Windows up to and including 10. So, if you upgrade your computer, you should be able to mov e it to the new machine. -rt_/) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:03:37 PM Subject: LANCSGEN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 296 Ancestry say they are no longer supporting this soft ware, should I be concerned?? I have backed all up onto a separate hard drive. Can anybody advise me or recommend an alternative,

This is one of the reasons I will not put my stuff out on the web. I have used The Master Genealogist for years and will continue to use it even though they are out of business and no longer offer updates. I will cry the day I have to change to a new one. Started out with Family Tree Maker and got tired of being charged $25 every six months for an update. TMG charged twice for updates in all my years of using it. Susan Boise, Idaho, USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Mason via Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 9:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] FW: Different Tree Software Everyone has a favourite Software for their Family Trees. I for one love Brothers Keeper but you need to buy the registered version to add photos etc. When I import my updated tree from Ancestry into BK via a gedcom the notes, photos etc that I have added to Ancestry will be seen as Url’s that can only be opened in Ancestry and if you do not have a subscription to that you cannot view them. If you find a software that will import all the photo’s and notes that you have added to Ancestry you will be extremely lucky and even luckier if Ancestry gives them to you. I have done years of research and now that I am thinking of leaving Ancestry I will have to add everything again bit by bit into my Brothers Keeper, I doubt very much I will ever get it done again. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10 :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Everyone has a favourite Software for their Family Trees. I for one love Brothers Keeper but you need to buy the registered version to add photos etc. When I import my updated tree from Ancestry into BK via a gedcom the notes, photos etc that I have added to Ancestry will be seen as Url’s that can only be opened in Ancestry and if you do not have a subscription to that you cannot view them. If you find a software that will import all the photo’s and notes that you have added to Ancestry you will be extremely lucky and even luckier if Ancestry gives them to you. I have done years of research and now that I am thinking of leaving Ancestry I will have to add everything again bit by bit into my Brothers Keeper, I doubt very much I will ever get it done again. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10  

'Reunion' is a Mac specific desktop programme. It has a huge number of fans, but I was disappointed to find supporting records and documentation couldn't be transferred. I sort of understand why but it's a serious problem if you have a lot of individuals in your tree. You can transfer a GEDCOM. I think the problem with all these programmes is that you can't import all your source material very easily.. If someone knows differently I would love to know. Jane Devon > On 9 Dec 2015, at 14:54, John Hanson via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sue > > You could have a look at Family Historian www.family-historian.co.uk - has > been voted as the best charting program by many. > > You can download a free 30 day trial copy which is the full version and not > cut down > > Regards > John Hanson > Researcher, The Halsted Trust > Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Susan Chapman via > Sent: 09 December 2015 14:16 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LAN] Family tree maker advise please > > Hi listers > > I use an old version of family tree maker, I have not subscribed to Ancestry > for a couple of years, but I have years if research, documents and > photographs on there. I also use it for charts, reports etc to share > > Ancestry say they are no longer supporting this soft ware, should I be > concerned? I have backed all up onto a separate hard drive. > > Can anybody advise me or recommend an alternative, > > Thanks > Sue > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue You could have a look at Family Historian www.family-historian.co.uk - has been voted as the best charting program by many. You can download a free 30 day trial copy which is the full version and not cut down Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Chapman via Sent: 09 December 2015 14:16 To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Family tree maker advise please Hi listers I use an old version of family tree maker, I have not subscribed to Ancestry for a couple of years, but I have years if research, documents and photographs on there. I also use it for charts, reports etc to share Ancestry say they are no longer supporting this soft ware, should I be concerned? I have backed all up onto a separate hard drive. Can anybody advise me or recommend an alternative, Thanks Sue :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue, Try Genopro , they have a free version .   http://www.genopro.com/free I bought mine with some added features. Have used it for over 18 years. Regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada From: Susan Chapman via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:15 AM   Ancestry say they are no longer supporting this soft ware, should I be concerned?  I have backed all up onto a separate hard drive. Can anybody advise me or recommend an alternative,

Hi listers I use an old version of family tree maker, I have not subscribed to Ancestry for a couple of years, but I have years if research, documents and photographs on there. I also use it for charts, reports etc to share Ancestry say they are no longer supporting this soft ware, should I be concerned? I have backed all up onto a separate hard drive. Can anybody advise me or recommend an alternative, Thanks Sue

Until you get a new computer that runs a higher Windows program, you should be ok but I'd back up often in case anything goes wrong with the program and you can't get your data for lack of support.  I'd also back up to a Gedcom file so that it can transfer into another program if necessary.    RootsMagic has a great description on how to change from FTM to their program at http://blog.rootsmagic.com/?p=2546 and Heredis, the French program, has a very good offer right now for $15 US.  Not sure of UK price. On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:15:40 +0000, Susan Chapman via wrote: Hi listers I use an old version of family tree maker, I have not subscribed to Ancestry for a couple of years, but I have years if research, documents and photographs on there. I also use it for charts, reports etc to share Ancestry say they are no longer supporting this soft ware, should I be concerned? I have backed all up onto a separate hard drive. Can anybody advise me or recommend an alternative, Thanks Sue :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FTM allows you to export a GEDCOM with media files, so that all of your photos, etc can be imported into Legacy or RootsMagic and presumably others. I Believe sources can also be imported, but I don't actually use them as such. For example, rather than a census "source", I include the full household census data in my notes. Vern On 9 December 2015 at 10:06, Jane Lucas via <[email protected]> wrote: > 'Reunion' is a Mac specific desktop programme. It has a huge number of > fans, but I was disappointed to find supporting records and documentation > couldn't be transferred. I sort of understand why but it's a serious > problem if you have a lot of individuals in your tree. You can transfer a > GEDCOM. I think the problem with all these programmes is that you can't > import all your source material very easily.. If someone knows differently > I would love to know. > > Jane > Devon > > > > On 9 Dec 2015, at 14:54, John Hanson via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Sue > > > > You could have a look at Family Historian www.family-historian.co.uk - > has > > been voted as the best charting program by many. > > > > You can download a free 30 day trial copy which is the full version and > not > > cut down > > > > Regards > > John Hanson > > Researcher, The Halsted Trust > > Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Susan Chapman via > > Sent: 09 December 2015 14:16 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [LAN] Family tree maker advise please > > > > Hi listers > > > > I use an old version of family tree maker, I have not subscribed to > Ancestry > > for a couple of years, but I have years if research, documents and > > photographs on there. I also use it for charts, reports etc to share > > > > Ancestry say they are no longer supporting this soft ware, should I be > > concerned? I have backed all up onto a separate hard drive. > > > > Can anybody advise me or recommend an alternative, > > > > Thanks > > Sue > > > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > > > > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have ued Legacy Family Tree and RootsMagic. Both have free versions and both are very good programmes. However, I have always liked Family Tree Maker the best because of the ease of adding individuals to the tree. I do have my tree online at Ancestry, but it is private. I once tried to download my ancestry tree and I found that the formatting of the notes was all lost. I had extensive notes on some people including census records, Wills, and other items. While I had several paragraphs of notes, the information downloaded as one long run-on sentence. Perhaps they have solved this by now. Vern Ontario On 9 December 2015 at 09:15, Susan Chapman via <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi listers > > I use an old version of family tree maker, I have not subscribed to > Ancestry for a couple of years, but I have years if research, documents and > photographs on there. I also use it for charts, reports etc to share > > Ancestry say they are no longer supporting this soft ware, should I be > concerned? I have backed all up onto a separate hard drive. > > Can anybody advise me or recommend an alternative, > > Thanks > Sue > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Ormskirk/  Hope this helps      Margaret NJ On Monday, December 7, 2015 2:14 PM, Vern Prescott via <[email protected]> wrote: Hi everyone. I was wondering if SKS who visits the Record Office in Preston could look something up for me please. My great, great grandmother, Ann Prescott, died in childbirth on 25 Nov 1865 in Haskayne.  (I can find no record of the birth or burial of a child, so am assuming that Ann died before the child was delivered?)  Her husband died 8 Sep 1866 in Haskayne. In 1871, I find an 8 year old John Prescott, in the Ormskirk Workhouse, who would appear to be their youngest son (born 18 Jan 1864). Would some kind person please check the Workhouse records at Preston for any record of John PRESCOTT.  I think his date of entry and date of discharge should be in the records.  There may also be further details on him other than dates.  While he is the only family member present at the time of the 1871 census, I wonder if any of his siblings might also have been inmaytes there, but discharged prior to 1871. Siblings include:  Elizabeth (b. 1862), Richard (b. 1858), Mary (b. 1856), Ann (b. 1854), Ellen (b. 1852), as well as three older children. Any help on this would be much appreciated. Vern Prescott Ontario, Canada :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the reply, Margaret. I had already been there which is how I learned that the Record Office had the Board of Guardians Records. On 7 December 2015 at 15:19, margaret ward <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Ormskirk/ > Hope this helps Margaret NJ >

Hi everyone. I was wondering if SKS who visits the Record Office in Preston could look something up for me please. My great, great grandmother, Ann Prescott, died in childbirth on 25 Nov 1865 in Haskayne. (I can find no record of the birth or burial of a child, so am assuming that Ann died before the child was delivered?) Her husband died 8 Sep 1866 in Haskayne. In 1871, I find an 8 year old John Prescott, in the Ormskirk Workhouse, who would appear to be their youngest son (born 18 Jan 1864). Would some kind person please check the Workhouse records at Preston for any record of John PRESCOTT. I think his date of entry and date of discharge should be in the records. There may also be further details on him other than dates. While he is the only family member present at the time of the 1871 census, I wonder if any of his siblings might also have been inmaytes there, but discharged prior to 1871. Siblings include: Elizabeth (b. 1862), Richard (b. 1858), Mary (b. 1856), Ann (b. 1854), Ellen (b. 1852), as well as three older children. Any help on this would be much appreciated. Vern Prescott Ontario, Canada

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Hi Peter Thanks for your reply. The John in Lincolnshire has been discounted as he killed his wife Sarah so that is not him there were some other details on him that were discovered that did not add up either. As for the one on the electoral roll in Manchester in 1835 I cannot find any evidence that is him either, I think he was a farmer. My John is Carter/Porter labourer! So the search goes on. Many thanks Dianna -----Original Message----- From: Peter Hall via Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 12:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] John BRIERCLIFFE Hello Dianne, There is a John BRIERCLIFFE convicted at Lincoln for manslaughter in 1843. I know it's not Manchester area, but you haven't found him there have you? He was sentenced to 10 years and was sent to the Hulk Warrior in the Thames. He languished there until 1848 when he was pardoned. There is also a J BRIERCLIFFE in the electoral roll for Greenwood Street, Manchester Township in 1835. Peter Hall Yorkshire --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Scott, Find My Past have records of pre-1858 will references.For the Richmond Wills - from memory - copies can be obtained from the Borthwick Institute in York. The cost is normally £10.00.www.york.ac.uk/borthwick/contact/ Regards June From: Scott D Kendall via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2015, 20:26 Subject: [LAN] Archdeaconry of Richmond. Does anyone on the list know how I can obtain copies of will/probate records at the Richmond depositories? Thank you Scott Kendall :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Dianne, There is a John BRIERCLIFFE convicted at Lincoln for manslaughter in 1843. I know it's not Manchester area, but you haven't found him there have you? He was sentenced to 10 years and was sent to the Hulk Warrior in the Thames. He languished there until 1848 when he was pardoned. There is also a J BRIERCLIFFE in the electoral roll for Greenwood Street, Manchester Township in 1835. Peter Hall Yorkshire --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thanks Elaine. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Ainsworth via" <[email protected]> To: "Bob Winder" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [LAN] Silvey Family > Hi > > I'm the coordinator for the Liverpool area on the OPC site. I've just > checked the image of the original register page and the father is > definitely Joseph, so we have a transcription error. I'll arrange for it > to > be corrected. > > Regards > > Elaine > > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus