Hi Jacqui In the 1939 NIR there are just two Ethel WATERWORTH born 1903 +/- 1 year Ethel WATERWORTH b1902 Ashton in Makerfield UD Ethel M WATERWORTH b1903 Leigh MB Do you have a birth date for her? I am guessing not The 1939 NIR will be added to the 12 month subscribers databases on the 16th Feb so may be its worth waiting and check them out then Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/01/2016 11:21, w Simkins via wrote: > Hello List > > > As part of my volunteering, I assist with help desks on behalf of > Nuneaton & North Warwickshire Family History Society. As always, the > problems presented are often due to circumstance and this problem is > due to circumstances created by WW2. > > > Ethel WATERWORTH is the maiden name of the mother given on a 1942 > birth certificate. She is shown as being wife of Murdo McLEOD. They > were not married and Murdo was hauled before the beak for perjury. > > > Ethel died as a result of giving birth, and she is buried at > Coleshill Cemetery, Warwickshire as McLEOD. > > >> From this you will understand that anyone with Ethel in their tree >> may not know of her partnership with Murdo, nor her 1942 death, >> which is as McLEOD, aged 39. > > > But because she appears in Warwickshire in 1942 and probably not much > before then, the only information known is from her son's birth > certificate and her death certificate. > > > I am aware of several Ethel WATERWORTHs in Lancashire. Have you lost > one? Or does anyone have a family story of Ethel "running off with a > Scot"...or similar!! There is a suggestion that she may have been a > nurse. We have traced Murdo McLeod (thanks to enormous help from > another list) who was born in Inverness and posted to Warwickshire in > WW2 - via Manchester. > > > Ethel is, so far, unknown so any help establishing her roots would be > gratefully received by me...and particularly by her son who "doesn't > do computers". > > > In hope, > > > Jacqui --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello List As part of my volunteering, I assist with help desks on behalf of Nuneaton & North Warwickshire Family History Society. As always, the problems presented are often due to circumstance and this problem is due to circumstances created by WW2. Ethel WATERWORTH is the maiden name of the mother given on a 1942 birth certificate. She is shown as being wife of Murdo McLEOD. They were not married and Murdo was hauled before the beak for perjury. Ethel died as a result of giving birth, and she is buried at Coleshill Cemetery, Warwickshire as McLEOD. >From this you will understand that anyone with Ethel in their tree may not know of her partnership with Murdo, nor her 1942 death, which is as McLEOD, aged 39. But because she appears in Warwickshire in 1942 and probably not much before then, the only information known is from her son's birth certificate and her death certificate. I am aware of several Ethel WATERWORTHs in Lancashire. Have you lost one? Or does anyone have a family story of Ethel "running off with a Scot"...or similar!! There is a suggestion that she may have been a nurse. We have traced Murdo McLeod (thanks to enormous help from another list) who was born in Inverness and posted to Warwickshire in WW2 - via Manchester. Ethel is, so far, unknown so any help establishing her roots would be gratefully received by me...and particularly by her son who "doesn't do computers". In hope, Jacqui

Hi, Folks, There will be a Conference "RESEARCHING CATHOLIC FAMILY HISTORY (including using Internet Sources)" led by Dr Brenda Hustler. It is being organised by Catholic Family History Society (North West Region) on Saturday, March 12th 2016, 11.00 a.m. to 4.0 p.m. and will take place at the Salford Diocesan Archives, St Augustine’s, Grosvenor Square, Manchester, M15 6BW. The Conference will start with Registration and Coffee at 11.00 a.m. Dr Brenda Hustler, an experienced Family Historian, will give a Presentation in the morning and the afternoon. Lunch is included and there will be time for discussion, help with research and viewing records in the Archives. Members and non-members welcome. Cost for the day: £12.00 including lunch and all refreshments (payable in advance). To book, please contact Mrs Diana Henaghan, 15 Maveen Court, Edmonton Road, Woodsmoor, Stockport SK2 7BG or [email protected] - before February 28th 2016. Cheques to be made payable to: CFHS North West. Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.)

Received from the Bolton & District Branch of the Manchester & Lancashire Family History Society: As you know we have now moved to our new venue at the Mackenzie Suite of Bolton Old Golf Links Golf Club, Chorley Old Rd, Bolton, England BL1 5SU. We normally allow members to have a rest in January but this year we thought we would launch our new venue with an extra, free "Welcome Night" to be held on Wednesday January 20th at 7.30pm. Coffee and tea will be available from 7pm, and we hope to introduce our existing members to our new arrangements plus attract new interest. Members will be introduced to our new facilities, the usual Stationery Stalls, and Help Desks will be available, plus our Rita Greenwood, experienced researcher and genealogy lecturer, will give a short talk about "Holy and Unholy Matrimony". We will then revert to our normal routine of meeting the first Wednesday evening of each month http://www.bolton.mlfhs.org.uk/ with our February talk being Wednesday, 3rd February, 7.30pm. Jacqui Crosby, Senior Archivist, Lancashire Archives, will talk about "Saving the Hulton Papers for the Lancashire Archives". A report about the campaign to save the Hulton archive and why it is so important. Many will recall the desperate fund-raising that the Manchester & Lancashire FHS had a small part in in 2014 to retain this collection intact in Lancashire. The project was thankfully successful and two important collections of documents have been retained in the County Record Office. One covers the 12th - 19th C, with much of it in mediaeval Latin, and includes family letters and deeds giving a window into life during the Plague, Great Fire, Interregnum and onwards, as it effected the Hulton family who were connected by a marriage to William Jessop a follower of Oliver Cromwell. The second collection covers the 19th and 20th C and includes estate papers and mentions Magistrate William Hulton’s role in the Peterloo incident during the Industrial Revolution. We are so lucky to obtain the services of this busy lady at a particularly important stage of the cataloguing of these documents. All are welcome. Non-members charged a nominal amount unless joining on the night. See http://mlfhs.org.uk/join/join.php for membership information and links. Once again the usual extras of book/stationery stall and Help Desk will be available. For all enquiries please email [email protected] For more information about the Bolton & District branch of MLFHS, please see http://www.bolton.mlfhs.org.uk/

Dear Linda (and all), As I said in my previous email: I got at least one of my Ancestry CD's to work. This was a surprise as I have tried several times before, on different machines. The current one actually let me install AV.2 which is what you need to view the files. (There's an AV.3 somewhere on one of my other discs but I haven't tried that yet. It's the Salop CD's that have an incompatible programme (too old a version of Visual Basic I think). They ran on XP but nothing later. It Will install, but won't run. Thanks once again to everyone for their much appreciated help :) Best Wishes, Penny On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > Rather than Archive Books, the old Ancestry Data CD's probably won't > work because they needed a specific program to run them. That was > never updated after Ancestry put all its info online and could make you > pay to get it. > > > Thank you to John Hanson who gave so much time and effort to digitize > so many records for all of us to use. > > On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 07:03:02 -0000, John Hanson via wrote: > > I was quite surprised about an hour after I sent my message to > get an email > from Rod Neep (the founder of Archive CD Books) which contained the > following which I am forwarding with his blessing > > "What you stated here in your reply is spot on! As the founder of Archive > CD > Books I can tell you (and you may forward this to the mailing list if you > wish) that all of the CDs contained simple PDF files, and any PDF reader > can > be used to view the contents. There is no special software required, and > none is included on the CDs. They will run on any old PC right up to > current > Windows 10 operating systems, and also Apple Mac computers. > > I am no longer involved in Archive CD Books, as I retired many years ago, > but the principle of the CDs that I established is that they could run on > any computer that is capable of displaying PDF files. Historically, the > earlier CDs did not have an "autostart", (automatically playing when they > were inserted into the CD drive), although some later ones may have. > > It is true that CDs can sometimes degenerate with age depending on storage > conditions, and the way that they have been handled, and you are correct in > saying that the best thing to do is to copy all of the files (and sub > folders) from each CD into its own individual folder on a hard drive. If > the > original poster can see the files on the CD using explorer then the > contents > of the CD should be fine! If the computer has a PDF reader installed (and > most modern ones come with one) then all that is needed is to double click > on the PDF file to make it run" > > Regards > John Hanson > Researcher, The Halsted Trust > Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to everyone for their encouragement with old CD's. Still having problems with those issued by Shropshire Gen. Soc. (incompatible programme), however the PDF files are now 'sussed', and I've even been able to access at least one ancestry CD. Best wishes, Penny On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 7:03 AM, John Hanson <[email protected]> wrote: > I was quite surprised about an hour after I sent my message to get an email > from Rod Neep (the founder of Archive CD Books) which contained the > following which I am forwarding with his blessing > > "What you stated here in your reply is spot on! As the founder of Archive > CD > Books I can tell you (and you may forward this to the mailing list if you > wish) that all of the CDs contained simple PDF files, and any PDF reader > can > be used to view the contents. There is no special software required, and > none is included on the CDs. They will run on any old PC right up to > current > Windows 10 operating systems, and also Apple Mac computers. > > I am no longer involved in Archive CD Books, as I retired many years ago, > but the principle of the CDs that I established is that they could run on > any computer that is capable of displaying PDF files. Historically, the > earlier CDs did not have an "autostart", (automatically playing when they > were inserted into the CD drive), although some later ones may have. > > It is true that CDs can sometimes degenerate with age depending on storage > conditions, and the way that they have been handled, and you are correct in > saying that the best thing to do is to copy all of the files (and sub > folders) from each CD into its own individual folder on a hard drive. If > the > original poster can see the files on the CD using explorer then the > contents > of the CD should be fine! If the computer has a PDF reader installed (and > most modern ones come with one) then all that is needed is to double click > on the PDF file to make it run" > > Regards > John Hanson > Researcher, The Halsted Trust > Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of John Hanson via > Sent: 08 January 2016 12:06 > To: 'Penny Trueman'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LAN] Old genealogy DVD's/CD's > > Penny > Is it the fact that you can't read the DVD/CD. > Having been in the computer industry for over 30 years and also covered the > IT for the SoG for many years I know the problems of CD's failing - it has > been documented many times over. New machines can also cause problems with > drives that will not recognise some of the old formats. > > It is the reason that I copied all of my DVD/CD's onto an external hard > drive many years ago. With material like Archive CD Books it isn't an issue > as they are all in PDF files. > > That you can see the files and they will not open. Then it is possible that > the appropriate program hasn't been loaded > > It could also of course be that you are expecting it to autoplay and it > isn't - that could be an issue with the operating system and you need to > check the settings. > > Regards > John Hanson > Researcher, The Halsted Trust > Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Penny Trueman via > Sent: 08 January 2016 00:37 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LAN] Old genealogy DVD's/CD's > > HI list, > When I say 'old' I'm not talking era's, obviously. > But it is annoying when you have paid out good money in the past (like you > would for a book) only to find that the DVD/CD won't play on modern > systems. > Can anyone advise me how to get these going again? Or to extract the > information therefrom? > e.g stuff from what was Archive Books and is now ArchiveBooks Ireland > (etc.)? > Best Wishes, Penny > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Rather than Archive Books, the old Ancestry Data CD's probably won't work because they needed a specific program to run them.  That was never updated after Ancestry put all its info online and could make you pay to get it.   Thank you to John Hanson who gave so much time and effort to digitize so many records for all of us to use. On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 07:03:02 -0000, John Hanson via wrote: I was quite surprised about an hour after I sent my message to get an email from Rod Neep (the founder of Archive CD Books) which contained the following which I am forwarding with his blessing "What you stated here in your reply is spot on! As the founder of Archive CD Books I can tell you (and you may forward this to the mailing list if you wish) that all of the CDs contained simple PDF files, and any PDF reader can be used to view the contents. There is no special software required, and none is included on the CDs. They will run on any old PC right up to current Windows 10 operating systems, and also Apple Mac computers. I am no longer involved in Archive CD Books, as I retired many years ago, but the principle of the CDs that I established is that they could run on any computer that is capable of displaying PDF files. Historically, the earlier CDs did not have an "autostart", (automatically playing when they were inserted into the CD drive), although some later ones may have. It is true that CDs can sometimes degenerate with age depending on storage conditions, and the way that they have been handled, and you are correct in saying that the best thing to do is to copy all of the files (and sub folders) from each CD into its own individual folder on a hard drive. If the original poster can see the files on the CD using explorer then the contents of the CD should be fine! If the computer has a PDF reader installed (and most modern ones come with one) then all that is needed is to double click on the PDF file to make it run" Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk

I was quite surprised about an hour after I sent my message to get an email from Rod Neep (the founder of Archive CD Books) which contained the following which I am forwarding with his blessing "What you stated here in your reply is spot on! As the founder of Archive CD Books I can tell you (and you may forward this to the mailing list if you wish) that all of the CDs contained simple PDF files, and any PDF reader can be used to view the contents. There is no special software required, and none is included on the CDs. They will run on any old PC right up to current Windows 10 operating systems, and also Apple Mac computers. I am no longer involved in Archive CD Books, as I retired many years ago, but the principle of the CDs that I established is that they could run on any computer that is capable of displaying PDF files. Historically, the earlier CDs did not have an "autostart", (automatically playing when they were inserted into the CD drive), although some later ones may have. It is true that CDs can sometimes degenerate with age depending on storage conditions, and the way that they have been handled, and you are correct in saying that the best thing to do is to copy all of the files (and sub folders) from each CD into its own individual folder on a hard drive. If the original poster can see the files on the CD using explorer then the contents of the CD should be fine! If the computer has a PDF reader installed (and most modern ones come with one) then all that is needed is to double click on the PDF file to make it run" Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Hanson via Sent: 08 January 2016 12:06 To: 'Penny Trueman'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Old genealogy DVD's/CD's Penny Is it the fact that you can't read the DVD/CD. Having been in the computer industry for over 30 years and also covered the IT for the SoG for many years I know the problems of CD's failing - it has been documented many times over. New machines can also cause problems with drives that will not recognise some of the old formats. It is the reason that I copied all of my DVD/CD's onto an external hard drive many years ago. With material like Archive CD Books it isn't an issue as they are all in PDF files. That you can see the files and they will not open. Then it is possible that the appropriate program hasn't been loaded It could also of course be that you are expecting it to autoplay and it isn't - that could be an issue with the operating system and you need to check the settings. Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Penny Trueman via Sent: 08 January 2016 00:37 To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Old genealogy DVD's/CD's HI list, When I say 'old' I'm not talking era's, obviously. But it is annoying when you have paid out good money in the past (like you would for a book) only to find that the DVD/CD won't play on modern systems. Can anyone advise me how to get these going again? Or to extract the information therefrom? e.g stuff from what was Archive Books and is now ArchiveBooks Ireland (etc.)? Best Wishes, Penny :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Penny, In Australia we have similar problems with some of the NSW bdm databases that required a program called " KAware" and some from Victoria and South Australia that need a program called " Digger" software. These programs date back to the DOS era computers (1990's+) They will not run in any way on 64 bit systems and most late model Windows 8 etc. They were still working on Microsoft XP systems which is no longer supported through Microsoft. What you need to determine is what PROGRAM was needed to run the particular Archive CD Book Since I do not have the Archive CD Book CD / DVD I can only make an initial guess. On your new computer: 1. Put the CD in the CD slot 2. Try to use the " explore CD" feature for the files types on the CD rather than just have it automatically open/ run. Look inside the file-folders too. 3. If you find lots of files with names like "somename.pdf " then you can try to open the individual file with Acrobat reader or some similar pdf reader If double-clicking on the PDF file name doesn't work, then try the following.... 4. Open Acrobat reader. Top of screen. Using file> open from the menu bar look for the file "somename.pdf" on your CD and click open. 5. IF you DO NOT find lots of "anyname.pdf" files you will need post to this list the names of the files on the CD so someone on this list can suggest a different way around your problem. Kind regards, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW, Australia) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 8 Jan 2016 at 0:37, Penny Trueman via wrote: Date sent: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:37:07 +0000 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [LAN] Old genealogy DVD's/CD's Send reply to: Penny Trueman <[email protected]>, [email protected] From: Penny Trueman via <[email protected]> > HI list, > When I say 'old' I'm not talking era's, obviously. > But it is annoying when you have paid out good money in the past (like you > would for a book) only to find that the DVD/CD won't play on modern systems. > Can anyone advise me how to get these going again? Or to extract the > information therefrom? > e.g stuff from what was Archive Books and is now ArchiveBooks Ireland > (etc.)? > Best Wishes, Penny

I'm slightly puzzled that Archive CD Books stuff doesn't run as I thought that was straight .PDF files. Unless you were just using that as an example? There are various options: 1. There is a fault on your CD drive - obviously, try other CDs to test this idea. 2. The CD is "rotten" - yes, they do degrade - if it's all brown and manky, you are possibly stuck. 3. The CD uses a program actually on the CD to access the data and this is not compatible with current Windows. You can try right clicking the program it runs and accessing various compatibility options that mean Windows will attempt to run it as if it were Win XP (say). Not sure if this works when the stuff is on a CD. For Archive CD Books, I am reasonably sure that the data will be in .PDF files. In that case I'd use Windows Explorer to look at the files on the CD. If you have room on your hard-drive I'd copy the whole CD into a folder on your hard drive - that way it'll run faster. Either way, just double click the .PDF files and Adobe Acrobat Reader should run. Use the Adobe version - it's possible to get other versions of the Reader but if your files have used JavaScript, then the non-Adobe version may not have that capability. (The maps of Cheshire from Cheshire FHS need a full Adobe Reader, for instance). Adrian ​

Penny Is it the fact that you can't read the DVD/CD. Having been in the computer industry for over 30 years and also covered the IT for the SoG for many years I know the problems of CD's failing - it has been documented many times over. New machines can also cause problems with drives that will not recognise some of the old formats. It is the reason that I copied all of my DVD/CD's onto an external hard drive many years ago. With material like Archive CD Books it isn't an issue as they are all in PDF files. That you can see the files and they will not open. Then it is possible that the appropriate program hasn't been loaded It could also of course be that you are expecting it to autoplay and it isn't - that could be an issue with the operating system and you need to check the settings. Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Penny Trueman via Sent: 08 January 2016 00:37 To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Old genealogy DVD's/CD's HI list, When I say 'old' I'm not talking era's, obviously. But it is annoying when you have paid out good money in the past (like you would for a book) only to find that the DVD/CD won't play on modern systems. Can anyone advise me how to get these going again? Or to extract the information therefrom? e.g stuff from what was Archive Books and is now ArchiveBooks Ireland (etc.)? Best Wishes, Penny :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some operating systems allow you to create a "virtual" XP drive on which to play old data CDs, but this can be complicated and I found it slowed the computer, even when not in use. Ruth >They were still working on Microsoft XP systems which is no longer supported through Microsoft.

hi { just use an old computer with xp on just for family history you can still find an older laptop with xp on flebay cheers ron On 8 January 2016 at 06:00, Tony Moore via <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Penny, > > In Australia we have similar problems with some of the NSW bdm databases > that > required a program called " KAware" and some from Victoria and South > Australia > that need a program called " Digger" software. These programs date back to > the > DOS era computers (1990's+) > > They will not run in any way on 64 bit systems and most late model Windows > 8 > etc. > > They were still working on Microsoft XP systems which is no longer > supported > through Microsoft. > > What you need to determine is what PROGRAM was needed to run the particular > Archive CD Book > > Since I do not have the Archive CD Book CD / DVD I can only make an initial > guess. > On your new computer: > 1. Put the CD in the CD slot > > 2. Try to use the " explore CD" feature for the files types on the CD > rather > than just have it automatically open/ run. Look inside the file-folders > too. > > 3. If you find lots of files with names like "somename.pdf " then you can > try > to open the individual file with Acrobat reader or some similar pdf reader > If > double-clicking on the PDF file name doesn't work, then try the > following.... > > 4. Open Acrobat reader. Top of screen. Using file> open from the menu bar > look > for the file "somename.pdf" on your CD and click open. > > 5. IF you DO NOT find lots of "anyname.pdf" files you will need post to > this > list the names of the files on the CD so someone on this list can suggest a > different way around your problem. > > Kind regards, > > Tony Moore > (Castle Hill, NSW, Australia) > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > > > On 8 Jan 2016 at 0:37, Penny Trueman via wrote: > > Date sent: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:37:07 +0000 > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [LAN] Old genealogy DVD's/CD's > Send reply to: Penny Trueman <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > From: Penny Trueman via <[email protected]> > > > HI list, > > When I say 'old' I'm not talking era's, obviously. > > But it is annoying when you have paid out good money in the past (like > you > > would for a book) only to find that the DVD/CD won't play on modern > systems. > > Can anyone advise me how to get these going again? Or to extract the > > information therefrom? > > e.g stuff from what was Archive Books and is now ArchiveBooks Ireland > > (etc.)? > > Best Wishes, Penny > > > > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] > > :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HI list, When I say 'old' I'm not talking era's, obviously. But it is annoying when you have paid out good money in the past (like you would for a book) only to find that the DVD/CD won't play on modern systems. Can anyone advise me how to get these going again? Or to extract the information therefrom? e.g stuff from what was Archive Books and is now ArchiveBooks Ireland (etc.)? Best Wishes, Penny

Jim, Many thanks for your kind help on this. In reply: I don't know as to which church this event happened, the date of 1859 is correct, think your correct and I need to purchase his marriage certificate as this should give me more info. Hopefully the parents name. The snippet of info was from Google and I couldn't find the full info anywhere. You have given me some more research to do but at least I have been pointed in the correct direction Thank you Regards Steve > >> James Edward born 1859 died 1919 married Rebekah Wills Lived in Brierfield, Lancs. I am trying to trace his parents and have the following info >> >> Register: Baptisms 1872 - 1880, Page 76, Entry 604. Source: ..... Notes: [Father'sname was entered as William then changed] Baptised by: W. ..... James Edward Ashworth - [Child] of Thomas Ashworth & Mary Born: 28 ...... Abode: Haslingden >

Hi, Steve, I am a bit confused as to the dates that are relevant. You wrote - > James Edward born 1859 died 1919 married Rebekah Wills Lived in > Brierfield, Lancs. I am trying to trace his parents and have the following > info > > Register: Baptisms 1872 - 1880, Page 76, Entry 604. Source: ..... Notes: > [Father'sname was entered as William then changed] Baptised by: W. ..... > James Edward Ashworth - [Child] of Thomas Ashworth & Mary Born: 28 ...... > Abode: Haslingden [endquote] In which church did the baptism take place and are the dates correct.?? Assuming the date of birth (1859) you quote is correct, I checked in LancashireBMD (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/births.php ) and found two possible entries for the birth in 1859 - Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1859 Surname, Forename(s); Sub-District; Registers At; Mother's Maiden Name; Reference ASHWORTH James Edward Newchurch Preston ASHWORTH NEW/28/66 ASHWORTH James Edward Rossendale Preston NUTTALL ROSS/15/54 I think, but am not certain, that Haslingden was in the Rossendale Registration Sub-District at that time. To get further details of these two births you would need to purchase the Birth Certificates from the Lancashire Registration Service - details on the LancsBMD site. Assuming the second birth is more likely, I looked for possible marriages in LancsBMD, and found for Thomas Ashworth with wife Mary Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1845 Surname, Forename(s); Surname, Forename(s); Church / Register Office; Registers At; Reference ASHWORTH Thomas HAWORTH Mary Newchurch, St Nicholas Preston CE21/1/493 Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1848 Surname, Forename(s); Surname, Forename(s); Church / Register Office; Registers At; Reference ASHWORTH Thomas BIRCH Mary Accrington, St James Preston CE6/1/482 Neither of these match the Birth registration where the Mother's Maiden Name is Nuttall. The only marriage of a Thomas Ashworth to a bride with surname Nuttall was - Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1839 Surname, Forename(s); Surname, Forename(s); Church / Register Office; Registers At; Reference ASHWORTH Thomas Ridge NUTTALL Fanny Newchurch, St Nicholas Preston CE21/1/122 Looking at the other possible date, the Lancashire On-Line Parish Clerk Project (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html ) has an entry that seem to match this data - Baptism: 9 Apr 1874 St James, Accrington, Lancashire, England James Edward Ashworth - [Child] of Thomas Ashworth & Mary Born: 28 Feb 1874 Abode: Cunliffe Court Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: J. Rogers Register: Baptisms 1872 - 1880, Page 89, Entry 710 Source: LDS Film 1278944 Checking LancsBMD gives - Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874 Surname, Forename(s); Sub-District; Registers At; Mother's Maiden Name; Reference ASHWORTH James Edward Accrington Preston BIRCH ACC/41/88 and looking for a matching marriage shows only (as found above) - Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1848 Surname, Forename(s); Surname, Forename(s); Church / Register Office; Registers At; Reference ASHWORTH Thomas BIRCH Mary Accrington, St James Preston CE6/1/482 It seems a 'good' fit but a birth to a couple 26 years after their marriage must be quite rare though not impossible - bride at 18 years birth at 43. It would be wise to find this family in the 1871 Census and again in the 1881 Census to verify the family unit. Hope this helps. Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) -----Original Message----- From: ssndrs via Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LAN] Looking for Ashworth

Good evening all, I am researching the Ashworth family starting with: Alfred born 1911 and died 1963 Married Phyllis Blanche Mabbitt Son of John Arthur born June 1884 died 1933 Married Isabella Wilkinson Son of James Edward born 1859 died 1919 married Rebekah Wills Lived in Brierfield, Lancs. I am trying to trace his parents and have the following info Register: Baptisms 1872 - 1880, Page 76, Entry 604. Source: ..... Notes: [Father'sname was entered as William then changed] Baptised by: W. ..... James Edward Ashworth - [Child] of Thomas Ashworth & Mary Born: 28 ...... Abode: Haslingden Any kind soul able to help me with this problem please? Many thanks in advance, Steve Sent from Mail for Windows

Hello Lancs Listers Here are the posts made on the Lancashire message board from 15 December 2015 to 5 January 2016. Perhaps a thread or two will be of interest. . . . Catherine BROWN and William JOHNSON married in 1915 Liverpool . . . LIVERPOOL Lookup, can anyone help? Please. . . . Shackleton / Edwards married at Fleetwood . . . William S Porritt . . . Martland in Upholland 1850- 1917 Newgate (New Gate) Farm House . . . Little known about grandfather Fred Brook Taylor (1906-1966) . . . Hilton/Webster/Prunty/Brooks/Coughlan Families - Great Grandparents Hilton . . . Leonard J Prince . . . James Vickers of Salford . . . Brick Wall - CLARKE - Liverpool . . . CALVEY Family of Lancashire The messages can be viewed (and replies can be posted) at http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/mb.ashx or http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/mb.ashx Kind regards, Lynne

Hello all Newly arrived from the Lancashire Parish Register Society is Volume 184, the Registers of St. Helens 1813-1841, which complements the CD issued in September. The next volume will be a Low Furness Collection -- Dalton in Furness 1813-37, Broughton in Furness 1673-1721, 1813-37, and Walney 1744-1841. If anyone is interested in old volumes, numbers 8, 9, 17, 19, 26, 47, 121-2, 124, 126, 130-39, 140-151, 155-179, and 45A are all available. See the society's web site at http://www.lprs.org.uk/ for information about available publications. If you are a member, please be aware that the AGM has been moved back a week to Saturday 23 April 2016 at 1 pm. With best wishes for a very happy new year, Lynne

The entry I found for 1871 Census was a Bridget Waters, 31, born Wicklow, Ireland wife of William Waters, 46 of Wexford, Ireland, Occup. Tailor - 18 Mansfield St., Islington, Liverpool, Lancashire + 1 servant, Kate Armstrong (widow) from Lancaster. Not able to find your Annie White's Marriage to a Higgins in 1869 in Liverpool as suggested to me .....I did however, find a Marriage dated 17th October 1869 of ANNIE WHITE 26yrs Spinster and MILES COLGAN 30yrs, Bachelor, Mariner from Ship "Tear?" Victoria Dock, she residing in Everton, her Father, JAMES WHITE, School Master, his Father John Colgan, Tailor/Sailor. Church of St. John, Parish LIVERPOOL, Co. Lancaster.....By Licence - Witnesses Joseph W Clapp and Sarah Rooney. The original copy of this Marriage is on Ancestry, so too a Private Family Tree with the Heading - Rooney Family Tree.......and Miles Colgan/Higgins Birth 1842 - Ireland which indicates this may be your Tree. Sorry, couldn't be of further help at this point. Cheers, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan Rooney via Sent: Sunday, 3 January 2016 10:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAN] Lookup requested in the 1871 census for WHITES from Wicklow living in Liverpool I am resending this in case it got lost in the re-Christmas mail. Joan -----Original Message----- From: Joan Rooney Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 6:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Lookup requested in the 1871 census for WHITES from Wicklow living in Liverpool Hi all, A while ago some of you kindly helped me find my White /Whyte family on RootsIreland. Now, I am hoping to learn if any siblings of my Ann White who was a servant in Liverpool in the 1860s may also have come to Liverpool. Ann White married in Liverpool on Oct 7, 1869. It seems that her father James Whyte, a school teacher remained in Crecin, Wicklow. I will list below the siblings of Ann WHITE(born May 7, 1843) with their baptismal dates in Ballyconnell, Wicklow. If someone could find one, or some of them in Liverpool, possibly Everton, in the 1870s I would appreciate it very much. The three eldest would be the most likely ones to have come to Liverpool, I would think. All were born to James WHYTE and Ann LENNON in Ballyconnell, Clonmore, Wicklow. 1. John White, - Aug 28, 1839 2. Bidy, or Bridget White - May 12,1841 3. James White - June 22, 1845 4. Maria White - Feb. 6, 1848 5. Patrick White - Mar 10, 1850 Thanks for any help, Joan :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! The list's administrator can be contacted at [email protected] :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: :-+-: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus