Perhaps I have missed something but couldn't the Black connection be the illegitimate father of one of your ancestors. Not all wives were entirely faithful! Richard Kendell (Descended from 2 illegitimate liaisons that I know of - there may have been others- on my male surname line) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:00 PM To: Nivard Ovington ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Lanark] The lighter side of DNA Regarding the usefulness of DNA testing, I am very pleased with what emerged from my brother's test. With the surname Black we didn't have any idea about our origins. The FTDNA results came with a list of names of others who have close DNA matches and we found that the majority had the name MacGregor or associated names such as Greig or McGhee as well as a few Campbells. We assume that our name goes back to the time when the MacGregor name was proscribed in Scotland and the clan members had to take other names, Black being one of them. I have read that some of them also took the name Campbell, which this DNA match list would seem to confirm. We did the 37 marker test back in 2008 and in my opinion it was definitely worthwhile. Sheila Brewer ---- Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > Clearly I appear to be in a minority of one <g> > > I can see no use at all for dna in my own research, I have no desire to > know that a person whose name I don't know and likely never will, came > from XXXXX several hundred years ago > > Neither do I see the need to line the pockets of the many companies > pedalling dna checks and databases > > That is not say I don't think there should be discussion about dna on > the lists, I really don't mind, my delete button works just fine :-) > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While that cannot be ruled out, Black is one of the names known to have been taken by the MacGregors at the time of proscription. In any case, what I found of interest was that the DNA showed our family's MacGregor connection regardless of what our name is now. Sheila ---- richardkendell <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps I have missed something but couldn't the Black connection be the > illegitimate father of one of your ancestors. Not all wives were entirely > faithful! > > Richard Kendell > (Descended from 2 illegitimate liaisons that I know of - there may have been > others- on my male surname line) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:00 PM > To: Nivard Ovington ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Lanark] The lighter side of DNA > > Regarding the usefulness of DNA testing, I am very pleased with what emerged > from my brother's test. With the surname Black we didn't have any idea about > our origins. The FTDNA results came with a list of names of others who have > close DNA matches and we found that the majority had the name MacGregor or > associated names such as Greig or McGhee as well as a few Campbells. We > assume that our name goes back to the time when the MacGregor name was > proscribed in Scotland and the clan members had to take other names, Black > being one of them. I have read that some of them also took the name > Campbell, which this DNA match list would seem to confirm. > > We did the 37 marker test back in 2008 and in my opinion it was definitely > worthwhile. > > Sheila Brewer > > ---- Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Clearly I appear to be in a minority of one <g> > > > > I can see no use at all for dna in my own research, I have no desire to > > know that a person whose name I don't know and likely never will, came > > from XXXXX several hundred years ago > > > > Neither do I see the need to line the pockets of the many companies > > pedalling dna checks and databases > > > > That is not say I don't think there should be discussion about dna on > > the lists, I really don't mind, my delete button works just fine :-) > > > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on > > the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. > Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the > following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard,   A wee bit of "afternoon delight on the side" is always a possibility;  however, in the almost 9 years that I have been dealing with our extended Johnston family and a handful of others I must say that it should not be considered first.  The most common reason for a different surname "popping up" unexpectedly is adoption.  In second place I would put hiding from the legal establishment.  In third place I would put immigration authorities who sometimes looked at a name and asked it the bearer wanted to change it, or the bearer wanted it changed and the official complied.  This happened all too often, IMO, when entering Canada and the U.S.A. for a period of time up to at least the 1930s.  In fourth place I would put a male other than the husband, and this can be for at least one of two reasons:  1.  inability of the husband to impregnate his wife, and 2.  the husband being cuckolded.    I've been looking at a case for about 6 months now in which our Johnston genes appeared in a family with a different surname.  Adoption has been ruled out.  The surnames were not changed.  This leaves us with one other choice.  The wife looked elsewhere for companionship and a pregnancy resulted.  This then raises the question, "Was the pregnancy planned or an accident?"  It appears that the husband may have been injured and unable to reproduce.  His wife had her needs, and she proceeded to have them fulfilled.  The child was at the end of a line of her husband's children and appears to have been well loved and provided for by him.  Other than this one, I have come across at least 4 instances where the husband had been unable to provide his wife with a child when she wanted one.  The wife proceeded to become pregnant with another man.  Whether this was by mutual agreement or not we may never know, but she and her husband raised the child (or 3 children in one instance) as their own and lived together until death - happily we hope.   It is not always all that easy when trying to sort out different surnames appearing suddenly when the DNA indicates that some unknown event happened.  One needs to be aware of the many reasons for this happening.  Gossiping tends to favor illicit relationships more often than not.  After all, who doesn't enjoy a juicy bit of gossip???  lol...  ;-)  From private letters held in various museums we know that women back then had their own ways of handling extra-marital affairs, and they were very judicious about how they carried on in private.  For a woman looking to "sample the wares" of a man other than her husband she would typically wait until she became pregnant by her husband.  Only when she was pregnant by her husband would she then have her affairs.  Then she didn't have to worry about becoming pregnant as she was there already.  We should not sell our ancestors short.  They knew what they were doing.   Good hunting,   Cliff.      From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; richardkendell <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] The lighter side of DNA While that cannot be ruled out, Black is one of the names known to have been taken by the MacGregors at the time of proscription. In any case, what I found of interest was that the DNA showed our family's MacGregor connection regardless of what our name is now. Sheila ---- richardkendell <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps I have missed something but couldn't the Black connection be the > illegitimate father of one of your ancestors. Not all wives were entirely > faithful! > > Richard Kendell > (Descended from 2 illegitimate liaisons that I know of - there may have been > others- on my male surname line) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:00 PM > To: Nivard Ovington ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Lanark] The lighter side of DNA > > Regarding the usefulness of DNA testing, I am very pleased with what emerged > from my brother's test. With the surname Black we didn't have any idea about > our origins. The FTDNA results came with a list of names of others who have > close DNA matches and we found that the majority had the name MacGregor or > associated names such as Greig or McGhee as well as a few Campbells. We > assume that our name goes back to the time when the MacGregor name was > proscribed in Scotland and the clan members had to take other names, Black > being one of them. I have read that some of them also took the name > Campbell, which this DNA match list would seem to confirm. > > We did the 37 marker test back in 2008 and in my opinion it was definitely > worthwhile. > > Sheila Brewer > > ---- Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Clearly I appear to be in a minority of one <g> > > > > I can see no use at all for dna in my own research, I have no desire to > > know that a person whose name I don't know and likely never will, came > > from XXXXX several hundred years ago > > > > Neither do I see the need to line the pockets of the many companies > > pedalling dna checks and databases > > > > That is not say I don't think there should be discussion about dna on > > the lists, I really don't mind, my delete button works just fine :-) > > > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > > message. 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Cliff: You do not mention what is your genetic distance from this family with the different surname. Also if more than one Johnston has the same Y DNA, and how closely you are to each other, or when the earliest known common ancestor of the people who have the same Y DNA lived, or, if you don't know, what is the genetic distance between you. Especially without that information, your speculations assume quite a lot. Even if you and this family were closely related, it would still assume quite a lot. Maybe someone was adopted and this wasn't known! And even if a baby weren't fathered by its mother's husband, you've still got no idea what happened. I am however fascinated by Scottish culture. Some of my Scotch-Irish histories say that before Presbyterianism and sometimes after, the Scots were pretty indiscrimantly promiscuous. I think this was the old Celtic culture. My brother belongs to a 1700 year old DNA clade. Its common ancestor clearly followed the Roman army around England and the middle Rhine. Thus they were there too early to have hung onto their seemingly Germanic identity. There is one lineage in the group where 7 families who all lived in one county in Maryland in the 18th century have a genetic distance of 0. Now, in Scotland, if you get back to the 17th century in Lanark you're in a time when surnames hadn't been fully adopted. Even the 18th century. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Cliff. Johnston Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:13 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; richardkendell Subject: Re: [Lanark] The lighter side of DNA Richard, I've been looking at a case for about 6 months now in which our Johnston genes appeared in a family with a different surname. Adoption has been ruled out. The surnames were not changed. This leaves us with one other choice. The wife looked elsewhere for companionship and a pregnancy resulted. This then raises the question, "Was the pregnancy planned or an accident?" It appears that the husband may have been injured and unable to reproduce. His wife had her needs, and she proceeded to have them fulfilled. The child was at the end of a line of her husband's children and appears to have been well loved and provided for by him. Other than this one, I have come across at least 4 instances where the husband had been unable to provide his wife with a child when she wanted one. The wife proceeded to become pregnant with another man. Whether this was by mutual agreement or not we may never know, but she and her husband raised the child (or 3 children in one instance) as their own and lived together until death - happily we hope. It is not always all that easy when trying to sort out different surnames appearing suddenly when the DNA indicates that some unknown event happened. One needs to be aware of the many reasons for this happening. Gossiping tends to favor illicit relationships more often than not. After all, who doesn't enjoy a juicy bit of gossip??? lol... ;-) From private letters held in various museums we know that women back then had their own ways of handling extra-marital affairs, and they were very judicious about how they carried on in private. For a woman looking to "sample the wares" of a man other than her husband she would typically wait until she became pregnant by her husband. Only when she was pregnant by her husband would she then have her affairs. Then she didn't have to worry about becoming pregnant as she was there already. We should not sell our ancestors short. They knew what they were doing. Good hunting, Cliff. From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; richardkendell <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] The lighter side of DNA While that cannot be ruled out, Black is one of the names known to have been taken by the MacGregors at the time of proscription. In any case, what I found of interest was that the DNA showed our family's MacGregor connection regardless of what our name is now. Sheila ---- richardkendell <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps I have missed something but couldn't the Black connection be the > illegitimate father of one of your ancestors. Not all wives were entirely > faithful! > > Richard Kendell > (Descended from 2 illegitimate liaisons that I know of - there may have > been > others- on my male surname line) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:00 PM > To: Nivard Ovington ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Lanark] The lighter side of DNA > > Regarding the usefulness of DNA testing, I am very pleased with what > emerged > from my brother's test. With the surname Black we didn't have any idea > about > our origins. The FTDNA results came with a list of names of others who > have > close DNA matches and we found that the majority had the name MacGregor or > associated names such as Greig or McGhee as well as a few Campbells. We > assume that our name goes back to the time when the MacGregor name was > proscribed in Scotland and the clan members had to take other names, Black > being one of them. I have read that some of them also took the name > Campbell, which this DNA match list would seem to confirm. > > We did the 37 marker test back in 2008 and in my opinion it was definitely > worthwhile. > > Sheila Brewer > > ---- Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Clearly I appear to be in a minority of one <g> > > > > I can see no use at all for dna in my own research, I have no desire to > > know that a person whose name I don't know and likely never will, came > > from XXXXX several hundred years ago > > > > Neither do I see the need to line the pockets of the many companies > > pedalling dna checks and databases > > > > That is not say I don't think there should be discussion about dna on > > the lists, I really don't mind, my delete button works just fine :-) > > > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > > message. 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I'd be interested on anyone's opinion about a close Y DNA match between a Gower and a Smith, close being about 18th century, where the Smith is known to have been born in Ireland in 1769, and the Y DNA definitively traces to a small area on the border between Perthshire and .... the county that contains Alloa, near Sturbridge on the Forth of Firth. The two families had no known contact, but we don't know where either lived in 1700. McGowan has the root Gow and means Smith. Gower has a whole separate history, but the name could have been mangled from Gowan or something else. Evidently, it was common for McGowans and others with the Gow root to anglicize their names to Smith in Ireland. Gower more likely came north during Norman times, or later. Now, two other families share the same Y DNA with common ancestry around the 14th century. They lived in 1600 or else claim to have come from the area I just described. I don't really know where in Scotland Smiths came from - but when they got to Pennsylvania they could not have more strongly appeared to be Scotch-Irish. Presbyterian weavers, even though their initial master was Baptist, the Baptist church was closer, and they had to transport 7 children 12 miles to the Presbyterian church with one wagon and one horse, which is what I call a serious Presbyterian, industrious and thrifty, got off the boat at New Castle, Delaware, in the mid 1790's, children succeeded against the odds, everything they did pretty much beat the odds except ultimately lose their farm. Back to the two other families, that there don't appear to be any other families in Scotland with that Y DNA and they lived within a few miles of each other, suggests to me that they were recent arrivals, at a time when they more than likely came from the south, when the likely alternatives were England anyplace near a Roman fort or fortified city (which seriously includes Yorkshire among other places), and the middle Rhine. In other words, more than likely they weren't from Flanders, and if they were for instance Freskin and descendants (one of the two families insists it was), the Y DNA lineage would be scattered widely across two counties and found across Scotland. This leaves us needing to explain the different surnames. Well, now, both of what I have from these two families was grandmothers trying to learn who was really the grandson's babydaddy, and neither of the kids wore the names Patterson or Murray. But they were born in a more permissive time and place, the United States in the Age of Anything Goes. Both Y DNA lineages are worn by big family groups that for instance trace to 1600 or to around 1700, and the Y DNA lineages bred true for hundreds of years in these family groups. It is reasonable to think that either some recent arrival from northern England, maybe a soldier near Alloa, slept around, or perhaps the lineage in Scotland was not yet attached to any surname. Anyhow, in addition to making the possible explanations for a Y DNA lineage with several surnames in Scotland clear, I want to know what is other peoples' knowledge about promiscuity in Scotland. I do not even want to hear how normal and jolly it is for anybody to just sleep with anyone, because it is nothing of the sort - unless, of course, you also explain how your mother and father passed down to you such an idea, and how their parents passed it down to them, and how many people your mother slept with while she was married to your father, if she ever troubled to marry your father. Now, I spelled that out in real detail, because if you don't ACTUALLY believe it wasn't wrong for your mother to sleep with however many whoevers and God even knows who fathered her children, you won't trouble us by saying anything at all, once you realize how you are causing your mother to come across. THAT would be historically important information. And I’M pretty certain that's what my Scotch-Irish 3x great grandmother would have said. My own mother didn't sleep with anyone but her husband, and her husband didn't sleep with anyone but her; neither would have heard of it, and they were married just short of 50 years when my father died. My father was a minister, and I once overheard a serious practical discussion of how he handled temptation, but he didn't do it! I myself have never slept with anyone. Sex to me is about commitment, as it was to all of my forebears as far as I know, atleast, since the advent of Presbyterianism. I've never met anyone with whom commitment developed, so no sex. Yours, Dora -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:26 PM To: [email protected] ; richardkendell Subject: Re: [Lanark] The lighter side of DNA While that cannot be ruled out, Black is one of the names known to have been taken by the MacGregors at the time of proscription. In any case, what I found of interest was that the DNA showed our family's MacGregor connection regardless of what our name is now. Sheila ---- richardkendell <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps I have missed something but couldn't the Black connection be the > illegitimate father of one of your ancestors. Not all wives were entirely > faithful! > > Richard Kendell > (Descended from 2 illegitimate liaisons that I know of - there may have > been > others- on my male surname line) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:00 PM > To: Nivard Ovington ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Lanark] The lighter side of DNA > > Regarding the usefulness of DNA testing, I am very pleased with what > emerged > from my brother's test. With the surname Black we didn't have any idea > about > our origins. The FTDNA results came with a list of names of others who > have > close DNA matches and we found that the majority had the name MacGregor or > associated names such as Greig or McGhee as well as a few Campbells. We > assume that our name goes back to the time when the MacGregor name was > proscribed in Scotland and the clan members had to take other names, Black > being one of them. I have read that some of them also took the name > Campbell, which this DNA match list would seem to confirm. > > We did the 37 marker test back in 2008 and in my opinion it was definitely > worthwhile. > > Sheila Brewer > > ---- Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Clearly I appear to be in a minority of one <g> > > > > I can see no use at all for dna in my own research, I have no desire to > > know that a person whose name I don't know and likely never will, came > > from XXXXX several hundred years ago > > > > Neither do I see the need to line the pockets of the many companies > > pedalling dna checks and databases > > > > That is not say I don't think there should be discussion about dna on > > the lists, I really don't mind, my delete button works just fine :-) > > > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > > message. 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