Hi, I have downloaded a very good possible for my William Gardner, saying he died in 1841 and the burial registers from Scotlandspeople shows the following: Death 17 Jan 1841, funeral 21 Jan 1841, William Gardner, Labourer, Residence: Renton, Undertaker or Wrights: Craig; Where Buried: In the Lair of: Robert Craig, No & Wall: 7 West; Churchyard: New Gr'd; Causing Death, Decline; Age Male 69; Style of Funeral: Carriage - Hearse, with 2 Horses; Nothing in the Charge for Moving Grave Stone, or in the Price of Ground, but Charge for Funeral was 6s It has taken me may years to find this record and I believe I have the correct one finally. BUT I have some questions. 1: Renton - from the record, which is hard to read, but it is definitely a R then looks like en, and positive of ton, making up Renton - I cannot find except references saying in Dunbartonshire. My family of Gardner's, up to 1819 of the last birth, were living in Barony Glasgow, this is occurring to the OPR's of any of the children's births, just say Barony. Q. Could it be Renton St, which today shows on the maps just above Cowcaddens Rd and round the Glasgow Caledonian University and the M8 or could it be the Renton showing as being in Dunbartonshire ? The burial is definitely recorded as being in Glasgow. the strange thing is that I downloaded the original entry back in 2010, but now if I go to find it again on the records it does not show, no matter what details I put in, including the GROS number, but if I go back to 2010 on my history, it is there and I can still bring it up with the same details, actually came up better this time around and able to read it better hence my queries. Ref if 644/01 0012 1841 Glasgow City, Glasgow/Lanark BTW when they married in 1792, William Gardner to Elizabeth Gilmour, William was listed as a Smith. So I expected him to be associated with this type of occupation or similar around 1841. Son Alexander born 1819, Barony his occupation was a carter, Pit Bottomer, Watchman, and finally on his death cert as Pit headman in the Colliery. 2: Buried in the Lair of Robert Craig: and the surname of the Undertaker or Wright was Craig: Sorry I have no idea what this means?? Can someone help here please to explain about Lairs and also the association of Undertaker or Wright? Are they the one and same or is the Robert Craig some other family member? 3. Churchyard: Says New Gr'd - I have found this means from looking at the other records on the page, this would mean New Graveyard - does this then mean the Glasgow Necropolis as this would be near Barony, and I know the Barony churchyard by this time was closed?? I have looked at Memento-mori regarding MI's, and there is nothing for William or for Robert Craig that I could ID. But I know this is only MI and not the burial details. Are there any further burial information that would be worth while getting apart from the wonderful burial record I have been able to obtain?? I doubt there would be an MI standing by this stage that would also be able to be read. 4. Style of Funeral: states it was carriage by Hearse with 2 horses. Cost of 6s, others also state Noddy 3s 6d, Chaise 4s 6d, Arms 1s, Spokes 2s 6d. Can someone explain all the differences to me please. Seems from the other records on the page, the Hearse and the Chaise could vary depending on amount of horses and Ushers and of course the removal of stone for the burial. My William appears to be the first one buried in this ground, as it states nothing for moving the grave stone and no price in the price of the Ground. 5. If he had a funeral with a Hearse with 2 horses, what is the chance of his notice being recorded in the newspaper, and if so what one could that be. I have full access to findmypast, ancestry and also been told about the Google newspapers regarding Lanark. Any assistance in understanding about the above information will make it easier for me to definitely say this is my William Gardner or not. Kind regards Ailsa in Brisbane Qld Ailsa Corlett [email protected] www.st.net.au/~ailsa alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: [email protected]