Your best friend here is a lot of research. There are such things as valid royal lineages. I actually have one or two. The rest turned out to be bunk. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Perkes Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 4:37 PM To: Newsgroup Lanarkshire Subject: Re: [Lanark] Joe Blow goes back to the 6th century---really! Hi Maisie, Someone researching some of the same lines in my mother's family assured me that my maternal ancestors can be traced to Odo of Bayeux (clearly illustrated in the tapestry of Bayeux and half-brother of William the Conquerer) and furthermore, to a Roman senator, circa 45 B.C.E.!!! As for the Caithness and Sutherland ancestors of my Lanark ancestors, I guess some of them could have come from Norway, but I don't have any male relatives who could test for DNA to confirm that. In the end, I agree with Don about enjoying an aperitif. :-) Carolyn On 2013-11-02, at 1:07 PM, Maisie Egger wrote: > Hello, all, > > How do I keep my “cool?” > > When I pooh-pooh a friends’ claims that he’s descended from kings and > queens back to the year dot, he insists that he has documentation to prove > it. It drives me crackers as his latest assertion is that he is related > to Margaret of Wessex, England, who was actually born in Hungary where the > family was exiled, who then became Queen Margaret of Scotland when she > married the rascally Malcolm !!!, and then Saint Margaret of Scotland (the > only Scottish saint). Margaret is the one responsible for reforming the > religious practices of the church in Scotland at that time to conform to > those of Rome. She was canonised 1250. > > She was born ca 1045 and died at Edinburgh Castle 1093 a couple of days > after her husband Malcolm III (Canmore=Bighead) and son Edward were killed > at the Battle of Alnwick, Northumbria (England). > > Margaret and Malcolm III had eight children, three of whom would become > kings of Scotland: Edgar 1097-1107: Alexander I 1107-1124: David 1 > 1124-1153. > > It is from David I that my friend claims lineage through this so-called > royal line. Really! > > We now travel back in time for more of his braggadocio to 500-589 to > David, Welsh bishop, who later became St. David, patron saint of Wales > (St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland; St. George patron saint of > England of St. George and the Dragon myth, then add on St. Patrick, each > with his respective cross to make up the Union flag/jack, but somehow St. > David was not included!). There is nothing that I could glean from Google > that this David of Wales, who founded many monasteries, left any progeny. > The Welsh church refused the Roman rite into the 8th century, so it is > assumed that prior to that maybe some of the monks/religious may not have > been celibate. My friend is trying to tell me he’s from this St. David. > Really again! > > All this potted history, with no direct connection to Lanark, to > ask...again...where does my American friend come up with this “stuff,” and > better yet, where does he find the documentation? He is aligned with the > LDS/Mormon church and I believe it is a requirement of this group that one > does one’s family tree. My friend is definitely an ordinary Joe blow with > not one penny to rub against the other, so he is not a “reincarnated” > royal living in a pseudo castle...anything but. > > When he trots out all this “stuff,” I do become irked as I’m not sure > whether he is being naïve in swallowing all these “facts,” or if he > actually believes them. He is a brilliant person otherwise. The farthest > back I’ve landed on a limb of my tree was in the mid-1600s and they were > the English, with the Irish born in the late 1700s who appeared in > Glasgow in the early 1800s, whilst the Scottish born and bred ones, mainly > from Lanarkshire south to the English border, surface in the early 1700s. > I mean, their roots have to go back and back, of course, but I haven’t > found documentation of such as yet. > > How the harry heck does this friend get back to the 6th century when I can’t > even find my great-great-grandfather’s father when he was born in the > 1790s? Plus, to irk me even more, New Register House cannot find a little > book of banns where I was so excited to find the banns recorded for this > great-great-grandfather of mine and his wife. In the interim, the book > apparently has not been digitised, and even if it were to be found (it > apparently has done a disappearing trick!), it will no longer be > accessible to the public. YET, my friend says he has documentation that > he belongs to David 1 of Scotland and St. David of Wales. Groan!!! > > Maisie > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. 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