Cousin Anne and Don, Thankyou so much for your help. I'm working at following up on your suggestions. I've come back too to thinking on naming patterns as the first child of the couple was named James (1843-1861) and then came John (1838-1839). The third son (1840-1916) was named John, my great-grandfather. Both fathers, of Helen (nee Crichton) and Thomas Wilson were named James. Then came Helen (1843-1848) Thomas and William then Mary (1852-1867) followed by Helen (1853-1889). The ninth child that I knew of was Agnes Wotherspoon Wilson born in 1854, and in just the last day I have found an Agnes Wotherspoon Wilson born in 1855, along with all the detail that comes with an 1855 birth. Thomas lists his birth place as Hamilton, and claims to be 41 years old as does Helen, born at Shettleston. Agnes is said to be the eleventh child of the marriage. It seems that there was an additional child of the marriage still to be found, and I am drawn to wondering whether Thomas may have been the son of a John Wilson. Perhaps his mother was Mary; these were both names of importance in the family. Thankyou again for your help. It can do no harm to look in a different way, and then again, there is much that I won't discover, quite possibly because it isn't there to find. or I am still looking in the wrong place. Regards, Janet. -----Original Message----- From: Don Muirhead Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 4:35 AM To: 'Janet Wilson' ; [email protected] Subject: RE: [Lanark] Thomas WILSON b. 1810 Janet Census records reported Parish not specific dwellings as places of birth. The closest Hamilton Farm to this area was in Rutherglen. I also checked the Directory of Land Ownership nothing else closer. There was one Thomas Wilson born of a James in Rutherglen but that was earlier in 1805. There was also a Thomas b Carnwath 1811 he was also the son of a James then again, there are many missed records. I see Thomas had a Trust Disposition did you download a copy from SP as you probable know he was a portioner of Wilson's Land which was a dwelling in Ballieston. There is also an Inventory of his assets and I see Helen left a Will and Inventory as well. Don -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janet Wilson Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 6:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Lanark] Thomas WILSON b. 1810 Hello Everyone, 1851 and 1861 censuses tell me that Thomas Wilson was born at Hamilton in 1810, but I have come to wondering whether rather than this being either the township or parish, whether it may in fact have been a farm closer to the Baillieston/Bargeddie area. His marriage to Helen Crichton took place at the Tollcross Church in 1835, and as I write this I have realised that I do not know exactly where this church was located; was at Shettleston. The 1841 census sees the couple at Main Hill, Thomas a male servant. Alexander Findlay was listed as a farmer at Main Hill, and others listed there were the families of John Waddell a male servant, and Tomas Brown an agricultural labourer. 1851 sees Thomas listed as a carter and spirit dealer of Edinburgh Road, Baillieston, and still at Baillieston in 1861 he appears as a coal contractor employing seven boatmen and 4 wagoners. Baptisms of the children from the marriage took place at Tollcross until 1845, but from 1849 were at Crosshill. Im wondering if anyone can give me any help with any of this as to locations, as a conversation recently, led me to think that there may have been a Hamilton Farm in the Baillieston area, and perhaps Main Hill was close by. Thomas death certificate indicates that he was the son of James Wilson, but does not name his mother. Perhaps I have been looking too far afield for Thomas origins. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou, Janet Wilson. ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> -----Original Message----- > From: Don Muirhead > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 4:35 AM > To: 'Janet Wilson' ; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Lanark] Thomas WILSON b. 1810 > I see Thomas had a Trust Disposition did you download a copy > from SP as you > probable know he was a portioner of Wilson's Land which was a > dwelling in > Ballieston. If he was a portioner, it is probable that he acquired his portion by inheritance. In which case, there could (actually, should) be a record in the Register of Sasines that might shed some light on his parentage. I would look in the Abridgments of Sasines in the National Archives - sorry now National Records - of Scotland in Edinburgh. Unfortunately they are not available online so would need someone to go there and look on your behalf. I would do that when I am next in Edinburgh (don't know when) but first I will have to find my Reader's Ticket, which has gone AWOL, I hope temporarily. Anne