http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/heritage/scale-of-viking-ancestry-uncovered-1-3334618 There goes another one of my suppositions as I thought Yorkshire, England had more Viking influence than other part of the British Isles. I’m still working on a possibility that someone from Yorkshire could possibly be my great-great-great-great grandfather (1712) whose surname may have been Danish. Should I blame the schools where a lot of the emphasis was taught on Viking incursions in England, the Danelaw, Durham, Lindisfarne, etc., but not much at all about the Viking influence in Scotland? On the timeline the Viking influence in Scotland doesn’t even get a look-in, all in England: However, a bone: “””See also: Genetic history of the British Isles and Scandinavian migration to the United Kingdom In 2000 the BBC commissioned a genetic survey of the British Isles by a team from University College London led by Professor David Goldstein for its programme 'Blood of the Vikings'. It concluded that Norse invaders settled sporadically throughout the British Isles with a particular concentration in certain areas, such as Orkney and Shetland. In this finding, the Vikings refers to Norwegian Vikings only, as the study did not set out to genetically distinguish descendants of Danish Vikings from descendants of Anglo-Saxon settlers. That was decided on the basis that the latter two groups originated from areas that overlap each other on the continental North Sea coast (ranging from the Jutland peninsula to Belgium), and were therefore deemed inconvenient or difficult to genetically distinguish....””” The Central Belt (Lanarkshire) has been a British Isles hodge-podge of peoples “forever,” with many Irish changing the profile of Glasgow in the mid-1800s and on, as an example. Now with the EU, who is to say who is what (or who) a few generations hence. In my own tree it was very simple to find my forebears in the north of England, Ireland (north and south) and predominantly in Southwest Scotland and the Central Belt. I have less than a handful of “hielan’ blood” with Mac in front of their names. Most settled as Lowlanders. More to chew on, but I am not touching DNA as my brain rebels! Maisie

Morning all, Anyone who has studied Scottish history should know that from the 8th century until the 12th century the Vikings were the single biggest group of invaders of the Northern Isles and Hebrides and indeed right down into Ireland. They had their parliament in Dingwall and in recent years its location under the Earl of Cromartie's memorial in the Cromartie car park has been confirmed by archaeological studies. Orkney was the seat of the Viking Earls who dominated the northern section of Scotland until they were expelled by the likes of my ancestor Freskyn of Moravia in the early 12th century whose Motte and Bailey castle still stands just outside Lossiemouth on the south side of the Moray Firth. His descendants took our family name from the Viking name for that area to the west of the Moray Firth Sudrland which became Sutherland. The very fabric of Scotland was determined by the influence of the Vikings. Malcolm III Canmore defeated his cousin Macbeth and then had to get rid of his Viking wife Ingebjorg in order to marry Margaret Atheling, now known as St Margaret. The sons of this marriage including David I invited their Flemish cousins like Freskyn and the ancestors of the Frasers, Setons, Cummings, Douglases etc to come up to Scotland and in return for vast lands in the north and east of Scotland, expel or suppress the Viking descendants. Even into the 13th century it was the death of the little Maid of Norway, the Viking granddaughter of Alexander III which led to the scramble for the Scottish throne and ultimately the invasion by Edward I of England and the Wars of Independence won by The Bruce and his supporters including his brothers-in-law the Earls of Ross and Sutherland. Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger Sent: 12 March 2014 03:40 To: [email protected] Subject: [Lanark] Vikings in Scotland http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/heritage/scale-of-viking-ancestry-uncovered-1-3334618 There goes another one of my suppositions as I thought Yorkshire, England had more Viking influence than other part of the British Isles. I’m still working on a possibility that someone from Yorkshire could possibly be my great-great-great-great grandfather (1712) whose surname may have been Danish. Should I blame the schools where a lot of the emphasis was taught on Viking incursions in England, the Danelaw, Durham, Lindisfarne, etc., but not much at all about the Viking influence in Scotland? On the timeline the Viking influence in Scotland doesn’t even get a look-in, all in England: However, a bone: “””See also: Genetic history of the British Isles and Scandinavian migration to the United Kingdom In 2000 the BBC commissioned a genetic survey of the British Isles by a team from University College London led by Professor David Goldstein for its programme 'Blood of the Vikings'. It concluded that Norse invaders settled sporadically throughout the British Isles with a particular concentration in certain areas, such as Orkney and Shetland. In this finding, the Vikings refers to Norwegian Vikings only, as the study did not set out to genetically distinguish descendants of Danish Vikings from descendants of Anglo-Saxon settlers. That was decided on the basis that the latter two groups originated from areas that overlap each other on the continental North Sea coast (ranging from the Jutland peninsula to Belgium), and were therefore deemed inconvenient or difficult to genetically distinguish....””” The Central Belt (Lanarkshire) has been a British Isles hodge-podge of peoples “forever,” with many Irish changing the profile of Glasgow in the mid-1800s and on, as an example. Now with the EU, who is to say who is what (or who) a few generations hence. In my own tree it was very simple to find my forebears in the north of England, Ireland (north and south) and predominantly in Southwest Scotland and the Central Belt. I have less than a handful of “hielan’ blood” with Mac in front of their names. Most settled as Lowlanders. More to chew on, but I am not touching DNA as my brain rebels! Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Northumberland with its center or capital in York was a Viking stronghold for centuries and was part of the Viking kingdom ruled by King Hring of Denmark.  When William the Conqueror made his tour of the north of England to subdue resistance to his new rule, the Earl of Northumbria swore fealty to William who was kin to him.  Margaret, wife of King David I of Scotland, was also kin.  It was one big, happy family, so to speak. Cliff. ________________________________ From: Maisie Egger <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:39 PM Subject: [Lanark] Vikings in Scotland http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/heritage/scale-of-viking-ancestry-uncovered-1-3334618 There goes another one of my suppositions as I thought Yorkshire, England had more Viking influence than other part of the British Isles.  I’m still working on a possibility that someone from Yorkshire could possibly be my  great-great-great-great grandfather  (1712) whose surname may have been Danish. Should I blame the schools where a lot of the emphasis was taught on Viking incursions in England, the Danelaw, Durham, Lindisfarne, etc., but not much at all about the Viking influence in Scotland? On the timeline the Viking influence in Scotland doesn’t even get a look-in, all in England:  However, a bone: “””See also: Genetic history of the British Isles and Scandinavian migration to the United Kingdom In 2000 the BBC commissioned a genetic survey of the British Isles by a team from University College London led by Professor David Goldstein for its programme 'Blood of the Vikings'. It concluded that Norse invaders settled sporadically throughout the British Isles with a particular concentration in certain areas, such as Orkney and Shetland. In this finding, the Vikings refers to Norwegian Vikings only, as the study did not set out to genetically distinguish descendants of Danish Vikings from descendants of Anglo-Saxon settlers. That was decided on the basis that the latter two groups originated from areas that overlap each other on the continental North Sea coast (ranging from the Jutland peninsula to Belgium), and were therefore deemed inconvenient or difficult to genetically distinguish....””” The Central Belt (Lanarkshire) has been a British Isles hodge-podge of peoples “forever,” with many  Irish changing the profile of Glasgow in the mid-1800s and on, as an example.  Now with the EU, who is to say who is what (or who) a few generations hence.  In my own tree it was very simple to find my forebears in the north of England, Ireland  (north and south) and predominantly in Southwest Scotland and the Central Belt.  I have less than a handful of “hielan’ blood” with Mac in front of their names.  Most settled as Lowlanders. More to chew on, but I am not touching DNA as my brain rebels! Maisie   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I always thought my Scottish ancestors were Norse, eg family name Skead (Sked and other spellings ) pronounced Skade, and Skade is a Norse Goddess. They lived on a farm on the shores south of Dunbar - Skateraw farm regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Lanark] Vikings in Scotland http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/heritage/scale-of-viking-ancestry-uncovered-1-3334618 There goes another one of my suppositions as I thought Yorkshire, England had more Viking influence than other part of the British Isles. I’m still working on a possibility that someone from Yorkshire could possibly be my great-great-great-great grandfather (1712) whose surname may have been Danish. Should I blame the schools where a lot of the emphasis was taught on Viking incursions in England, the Danelaw, Durham, Lindisfarne, etc., but not much at all about the Viking influence in Scotland? On the timeline the Viking influence in Scotland doesn’t even get a look-in, all in England: However, a bone: “””See also: Genetic history of the British Isles and Scandinavian migration to the United Kingdom In 2000 the BBC commissioned a genetic survey of the British Isles by a team from University College London led by Professor David Goldstein for its programme 'Blood of the Vikings'. It concluded that Norse invaders settled sporadically throughout the British Isles with a particular concentration in certain areas, such as Orkney and Shetland. In this finding, the Vikings refers to Norwegian Vikings only, as the study did not set out to genetically distinguish descendants of Danish Vikings from descendants of Anglo-Saxon settlers. That was decided on the basis that the latter two groups originated from areas that overlap each other on the continental North Sea coast (ranging from the Jutland peninsula to Belgium), and were therefore deemed inconvenient or difficult to genetically distinguish....””” The Central Belt (Lanarkshire) has been a British Isles hodge-podge of peoples “forever,” with many Irish changing the profile of Glasgow in the mid-1800s and on, as an example. Now with the EU, who is to say who is what (or who) a few generations hence. In my own tree it was very simple to find my forebears in the north of England, Ireland (north and south) and predominantly in Southwest Scotland and the Central Belt. I have less than a handful of “hielan’ blood” with Mac in front of their names. Most settled as Lowlanders. More to chew on, but I am not touching DNA as my brain rebels! Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message