If protein content makes that kind of a difference, make sure you use general baking flour and not bread flour; the latter has more protein and produces harder baked goods. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Cliff. Johnston via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:26 PM To: Maisie Egger ; Jeannette Walton ; lanark@rootsweb.com ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Maisie, Your friends are correct. European flour does give significantly different results than North American flour. It has something to do with the protein in it - less in Europe, if I recall correctly. Much of it now comes from Turkey too. There is a wonderful flour made from an even higher protein wheat grown in Montana. I forget the name of it now, but I used to buy the wheat by the sack and mill it myself until some fool decided to run a red light and changed my life. The flavor is superb. Good hunting, Cliff. On Sunday, December 6, 2015 9:08 PM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: The last from me on the subject of the clootie dumpling: http://www.lovefood.com/journal/opinions/14211/how-to-make-a-clootie-dumpling My bracelet made of silver sixpences is more valuable that yours made of silver thruppennies, Jeannette, in more ways than one. Bear in mind that in my childhood a sixpence or threepence (thruppenny) was a small fortune as to get into the Saturday matinee was only one penny. We were also given a penny for our Sunday School collection, and a ha'penny could get you a small bag of sweeties (candy). The silver coins, sixpences and thruppenies (three pence) wrapped in wax paper and mixed with the clootie dumpling ingredients were in addition to the wee 'toty' (small) charms, also wrapped in wax paper: (From Google) :Charms also got stirred in so diners got a piece of their future with their slice of pudding (dumpling). Finding a coin meant wealth; a ring signified marriage; and a wishbone promised the finder his/her heart’s desire. The man who found a button and the woman who got a thimble were destined to stay single.: Then there was a tiny doll the length of a thumbnail but I've forgotten its significance. Maisie --------------------------------- From: Jeannette Walton via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:13 PM To: ianrodney ; Maisie Egger via Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Silver Threepence! When I first visited Scotland in 1959, a friend knew the "thrupennies" were out of circulation and was able to find a dozen for me, which I had made into a bracelet. Didn't remember about the clooties. No, sorry I won't divide my bracelet. It's a really great memory of a special friend and a special visit to Scotland. I've been hooked on Scotland since. Jeannette On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:16 PM, ianrodney via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Finding silver threepences is a bit like finding hens teeth. I remember my > mother putting them in dumplings back in the 50s /60s wrapped in > greaseproof paper. My birthday would not have been complete without a > clootie. Last one I had was made by my daughter for my 60th Birthday. > Hopefully get on for the 65th next year > > All the best from very wet Scotland > > Ian ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

If you're making Clootie Dumpling in Canada, then I would suggest "Cake and Pastry Flour"--Five Roses makes a great product. It is much lower in protein than All-Purpose flour and is ideal for such products. Bread flour should never be used for anything other than making yeast bread and buns--that's where you want the high protein. -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dora Smith via Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 3:59 PM To: Cliff. Johnston; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition If protein content makes that kind of a difference, make sure you use general baking flour and not bread flour; the latter has more protein and produces harder baked goods. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Cliff. Johnston via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:26 PM To: Maisie Egger ; Jeannette Walton ; lanark@rootsweb.com ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Maisie, Your friends are correct. European flour does give significantly different results than North American flour. It has something to do with the protein in it - less in Europe, if I recall correctly. Much of it now comes from Turkey too. There is a wonderful flour made from an even higher protein wheat grown in Montana. I forget the name of it now, but I used to buy the wheat by the sack and mill it myself until some fool decided to run a red light and changed my life. The flavor is superb. Good hunting, Cliff. On Sunday, December 6, 2015 9:08 PM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: The last from me on the subject of the clootie dumpling: http://www.lovefood.com/journal/opinions/14211/how-to-make-a-clootie-dumpling My bracelet made of silver sixpences is more valuable that yours made of silver thruppennies, Jeannette, in more ways than one. Bear in mind that in my childhood a sixpence or threepence (thruppenny) was a small fortune as to get into the Saturday matinee was only one penny. We were also given a penny for our Sunday School collection, and a ha'penny could get you a small bag of sweeties (candy). The silver coins, sixpences and thruppenies (three pence) wrapped in wax paper and mixed with the clootie dumpling ingredients were in addition to the wee 'toty' (small) charms, also wrapped in wax paper: (From Google) :Charms also got stirred in so diners got a piece of their future with their slice of pudding (dumpling). Finding a coin meant wealth; a ring signified marriage; and a wishbone promised the finder his/her heart’s desire. The man who found a button and the woman who got a thimble were destined to stay single.: Then there was a tiny doll the length of a thumbnail but I've forgotten its significance. Maisie --------------------------------- From: Jeannette Walton via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:13 PM To: ianrodney ; Maisie Egger via Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Silver Threepence! When I first visited Scotland in 1959, a friend knew the "thrupennies" were out of circulation and was able to find a dozen for me, which I had made into a bracelet. Didn't remember about the clooties. No, sorry I won't divide my bracelet. It's a really great memory of a special friend and a special visit to Scotland. I've been hooked on Scotland since. Jeannette On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:16 PM, ianrodney via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Finding silver threepences is a bit like finding hens teeth. I remember my > mother putting them in dumplings back in the 50s /60s wrapped in > greaseproof paper. My birthday would not have been complete without a > clootie. Last one I had was made by my daughter for my 60th Birthday. > Hopefully get on for the 65th next year > > All the best from very wet Scotland > > Ian ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. 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