Hi Olwyn I would start with the census A quick search for Robert SMITH born 1833 +/2 years finds two in the 1841 census , only one has a brother Thomas and he is 10 in 1841 Please note the 1841 does not have as much detail as later census The ages are rounded down to the nearest whole five for those above 16, birth places are either in county where enumerated (Y) or not in county where enumerated (N) Also bear in mind the transcript may have errors in and is itself a transcript of a transcript, the enumerator transcribed the household schedules onto the forms we have access to today and from which the transcripts are made The following does not prove its your family but suggests that it may be Name: Peter Smith Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Old Monkland County: Lanarkshire Address: Calder Worky Gaspel Row Occupation: Furnace Man Parish Number: 652 Household Members: Name Age Peter Smith 40 furnace man N (not born in Lanarkshire) Jane Smith 30 Y Thomas Smith 10 Y Robert Smith 9 Y Agnes Smith 7 Y Peter Smith 4 Y Andrew Smith 1 Y Parish: Old Monkland; ED: 9; Page: 2; Line: 1030; Year: 1841 The easiest way to get the page image is to visit scotlandspeople, armed with the above it should cost you 6 credits The Robert above was according to the 1841 census, born in Lanarkshire I found nothing on either a Robert Pollock SMITH b1833 +/- 2 years anywhere (but he may have adopted the Pollock later) or a Robert SMITH b1833 +/- 2 years re Airdrie What appears to be the same family in 1851 Name: Peter Smith Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1804 Relationship: Head Spouse: Jane Smith Gender: Male Where born: Dundee Parish Number: 652 Civil Parish: Old Monkland Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Calder Iron Works County: Lanarkshire Address: 15 Bridge Row Occupation: Furnace Keeper ED: 21 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 8 LINE: 8 Roll: CSSCT1851_171 Household Members: Name Age Peter Smith 47 furnace keeper Dundee Jane Smith 44 wife of East Kelhark? Lanarkshire Thomas Smith 21 engine keeper Old Monkland Lanarkshire Albert Smith 13 assistant of furnace keeper Old Monkland Lanarkshire Agnes Smith 17 house servant Old Monkland Lanarkshire Jane Smith 10 scholar Old Monkland Lanarkshire Margaret Smith 8 scholar Old Monkland Lanarkshire Marion Smith 5 scholar Old Monkland Lanarkshire Andrew Smith 3 Old Monkland Lanarkshire Parish: Old Monkland; ED: 21; Page: 3; Line: 8; Roll: CSSCT1851_171; Year: 1851 There was a Robert SMITH aged 20 in the 1851 census but he is down as born Old Monkland an Iron stone miner You may find the baptisms for them on scotlandspeople also Given the times you may find there were other children born and died between the census I would urge you to get the page images for the census if the details marry up with your data, don't rely on the transcripts Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/12/2015 21:53, Olwyn Whitehouse via wrote: > I am not familiar with Scottish research. How do I find out if Thomas Smith > b. 1831 and Robert Pollock Smith b. 1833 have any other brothers and > sisters. > > Peter SMITH born: 28 Jun 1803, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland > Peter married Jane POLLOCK on 1 Jan 1830 in Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, > Scotland. (Jane POLLOCK was born in 1807 in Scotland) > Who were their children? > > Thomas SMITH born in 1831, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Died: 26 > June 1897, Waimate, NZ at age 66 > Marriage: Jane AITKEN on 4 Dec. 1853 in Scotland. Jane was born on 27 Jun > 1830 in Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland and died on 19 May 1910 in > Waimera, Otago, and was buried in Clinton Cemetery, NZ. Arrived in NZ in > the Helenslee in 1863. > Children John, Annabella, Jane all born in NZ. > > Robert Pollock-Smith was a native of Airdrie, Scotland. He died in NZ in > 1916, aged 83. He was born in 1833. Came out to NZ twice. Married 25 Nov > 1864 in Christchurch, NZ. to Elizabeth BURLEY. No children born in NZ. He > came back c. 1875. No sign of a marriage in NZ to Janet Wards. > http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/ward/thread/1200148 > Seven children born in NZ: Ellen, Robert, James, Donald Brock Smith, > Jane, Annabella Pollock Smith, Thomas Peter Smith. > > Thanks. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Nivard, I think you and Malcolm out to be given an honour by the Queen. After all, if Elton John can be given a BE or other for plunking on some piano keys and not singing all that great, your contributions to genealogy are more productive! Maisie. -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 2:42 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Peter SMITH b 28 Jun 1803, Glasgow, Lanark, SCT. married Jane POLLOCK 1830. Looking for their children? Hi Olwyn I would start with the census A quick search for Robert SMITH born 1833 +/2 years finds two in the 1841 census , only one has a brother Thomas and he is 10 in 1841 Please note the 1841 does not have as much detail as later census The ages are rounded down to the nearest whole five for those above 16, birth places are either in county where enumerated (Y) or not in county where enumerated (N) Also bear in mind the transcript may have errors in and is itself a transcript of a transcript, the enumerator transcribed the household schedules onto the forms we have access to today and from which the transcripts are made The following does not prove its your family but suggests that it may be Name: Peter Smith Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Old Monkland County: Lanarkshire Address: Calder Worky Gaspel Row Occupation: Furnace Man Parish Number: 652 Household Members: Name Age Peter Smith 40 furnace man N (not born in Lanarkshire) Jane Smith 30 Y Thomas Smith 10 Y Robert Smith 9 Y Agnes Smith 7 Y Peter Smith 4 Y Andrew Smith 1 Y Parish: Old Monkland; ED: 9; Page: 2; Line: 1030; Year: 1841 The easiest way to get the page image is to visit scotlandspeople, armed with the above it should cost you 6 credits The Robert above was according to the 1841 census, born in Lanarkshire I found nothing on either a Robert Pollock SMITH b1833 +/- 2 years anywhere (but he may have adopted the Pollock later) or a Robert SMITH b1833 +/- 2 years re Airdrie What appears to be the same family in 1851 Name: Peter Smith Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1804 Relationship: Head Spouse: Jane Smith Gender: Male Where born: Dundee Parish Number: 652 Civil Parish: Old Monkland Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Calder Iron Works County: Lanarkshire Address: 15 Bridge Row Occupation: Furnace Keeper ED: 21 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 8 LINE: 8 Roll: CSSCT1851_171 Household Members: Name Age Peter Smith 47 furnace keeper Dundee Jane Smith 44 wife of East Kelhark? Lanarkshire Thomas Smith 21 engine keeper Old Monkland Lanarkshire Albert Smith 13 assistant of furnace keeper Old Monkland Lanarkshire Agnes Smith 17 house servant Old Monkland Lanarkshire Jane Smith 10 scholar Old Monkland Lanarkshire Margaret Smith 8 scholar Old Monkland Lanarkshire Marion Smith 5 scholar Old Monkland Lanarkshire Andrew Smith 3 Old Monkland Lanarkshire Parish: Old Monkland; ED: 21; Page: 3; Line: 8; Roll: CSSCT1851_171; Year: 1851 There was a Robert SMITH aged 20 in the 1851 census but he is down as born Old Monkland an Iron stone miner You may find the baptisms for them on scotlandspeople also Given the times you may find there were other children born and died between the census I would urge you to get the page images for the census if the details marry up with your data, don't rely on the transcripts Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/12/2015 21:53, Olwyn Whitehouse via wrote: > I am not familiar with Scottish research. How do I find out if Thomas > Smith > b. 1831 and Robert Pollock Smith b. 1833 have any other brothers and > sisters. > > Peter SMITH born: 28 Jun 1803, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland > Peter married Jane POLLOCK on 1 Jan 1830 in Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, > Scotland. (Jane POLLOCK was born in 1807 in Scotland) > Who were their children? > > Thomas SMITH born in 1831, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Died: 26 > June 1897, Waimate, NZ at age 66 > Marriage: Jane AITKEN on 4 Dec. 1853 in Scotland. Jane was born on 27 Jun > 1830 in Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland and died on 19 May 1910 in > Waimera, Otago, and was buried in Clinton Cemetery, NZ. Arrived in NZ in > the Helenslee in 1863. > Children John, Annabella, Jane all born in NZ. > > Robert Pollock-Smith was a native of Airdrie, Scotland. He died in NZ in > 1916, aged 83. He was born in 1833. Came out to NZ twice. Married 25 Nov > 1864 in Christchurch, NZ. to Elizabeth BURLEY. No children born in NZ. He > came back c. 1875. No sign of a marriage in NZ to Janet Wards. > http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/ward/thread/1200148 > Seven children born in NZ: Ellen, Robert, James, Donald Brock Smith, > Jane, Annabella Pollock Smith, Thomas Peter Smith. > > Thanks. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hear hear. Elton who? Edward R Paxton Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Dec 2015, at 23:09, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Nivard, I think you and Malcolm out to be given an honour by the Queen. > After all, if Elton John can be given a BE or other for plunking on some > piano keys and not singing all that great, your contributions to genealogy > are more productive! > > Maisie. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nivard Ovington via > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 2:42 PM > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Peter SMITH b 28 Jun 1803, Glasgow, Lanark, SCT. > married Jane POLLOCK 1830. Looking for their children? > > Hi Olwyn > > I would start with the census > > A quick search for Robert SMITH born 1833 +/2 years finds two in the > 1841 census , only one has a brother Thomas and he is 10 in 1841 > > Please note the 1841 does not have as much detail as later census > > The ages are rounded down to the nearest whole five for those above 16, > birth places are either in county where enumerated (Y) or not in county > where enumerated (N) > > Also bear in mind the transcript may have errors in and is itself a > transcript of a transcript, the enumerator transcribed the household > schedules onto the forms we have access to today and from which the > transcripts are made > > The following does not prove its your family but suggests that it may be > > Name: Peter Smith > Age: 40 > Estimated birth year: abt 1801 > Gender: Male > Where born: Scotland > Civil Parish: Old Monkland > County: Lanarkshire > Address: Calder Worky Gaspel Row > Occupation: Furnace Man > Parish Number: 652 > Household Members: > Name Age > Peter Smith 40 furnace man N (not born in Lanarkshire) > Jane Smith 30 Y > Thomas Smith 10 Y > Robert Smith 9 Y > Agnes Smith 7 Y > Peter Smith 4 Y > Andrew Smith 1 Y > > Parish: Old Monkland; ED: 9; Page: 2; Line: 1030; Year: 1841 > > The easiest way to get the page image is to visit scotlandspeople, armed > with the above it should cost you 6 credits > > The Robert above was according to the 1841 census, born in Lanarkshire > > I found nothing on either a Robert Pollock SMITH b1833 +/- 2 years > anywhere (but he may have adopted the Pollock later) or a Robert SMITH > b1833 +/- 2 years re Airdrie > > What appears to be the same family in 1851 > > Name: Peter Smith > Age: 47 > Estimated birth year: abt 1804 > Relationship: Head > Spouse: Jane Smith > Gender: Male > Where born: Dundee > Parish Number: 652 > Civil Parish: Old Monkland > Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: > View related Ecclesiastical Parish > Town: Calder Iron Works > County: Lanarkshire > Address: 15 Bridge Row > Occupation: Furnace Keeper > ED: 21 > Page: 3 > Household schedule number: 8 > LINE: 8 > Roll: CSSCT1851_171 > Household Members: > Name Age > Peter Smith 47 furnace keeper Dundee > Jane Smith 44 wife of East Kelhark? Lanarkshire > Thomas Smith 21 engine keeper Old Monkland Lanarkshire > Albert Smith 13 assistant of furnace keeper Old Monkland Lanarkshire > Agnes Smith 17 house servant Old Monkland Lanarkshire > Jane Smith 10 scholar Old Monkland Lanarkshire > Margaret Smith 8 scholar Old Monkland Lanarkshire > Marion Smith 5 scholar Old Monkland Lanarkshire > Andrew Smith 3 Old Monkland Lanarkshire > > Parish: Old Monkland; ED: 21; Page: 3; Line: 8; Roll: CSSCT1851_171; > Year: 1851 > > There was a Robert SMITH aged 20 in the 1851 census but he is down as > born Old Monkland an Iron stone miner > > You may find the baptisms for them on scotlandspeople also > > Given the times you may find there were other children born and died > between the census > > I would urge you to get the page images for the census if the details > marry up with your data, don't rely on the transcripts > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 01/12/2015 21:53, Olwyn Whitehouse via wrote: >> I am not familiar with Scottish research. How do I find out if Thomas >> Smith >> b. 1831 and Robert Pollock Smith b. 1833 have any other brothers and >> sisters. >> >> Peter SMITH born: 28 Jun 1803, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland >> Peter married Jane POLLOCK on 1 Jan 1830 in Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, >> Scotland. (Jane POLLOCK was born in 1807 in Scotland) >> Who were their children? >> >> Thomas SMITH born in 1831, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Died: 26 >> June 1897, Waimate, NZ at age 66 >> Marriage: Jane AITKEN on 4 Dec. 1853 in Scotland. Jane was born on 27 Jun >> 1830 in Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland and died on 19 May 1910 in >> Waimera, Otago, and was buried in Clinton Cemetery, NZ. Arrived in NZ in >> the Helenslee in 1863. >> Children John, Annabella, Jane all born in NZ. >> >> Robert Pollock-Smith was a native of Airdrie, Scotland. He died in NZ in >> 1916, aged 83. He was born in 1833. Came out to NZ twice. Married 25 Nov >> 1864 in Christchurch, NZ. to Elizabeth BURLEY. No children born in NZ. He >> came back c. 1875. No sign of a marriage in NZ to Janet Wards. >> http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/ward/thread/1200148 >> Seven children born in NZ: Ellen, Robert, James, Donald Brock Smith, >> Jane, Annabella Pollock Smith, Thomas Peter Smith. >> >> Thanks. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. > Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the > following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. 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