Hello Listers I'm trying to trace the family history of a 90 year-old aunt whose father & grandfather were both named Thomas GRAHAM. Generations of her family lived in Carnwath & Kaimend (which had various spellings in the censuses over the decades). Please can anyone tell me more about these places - was Kaimend a hamlet? As I'm in Western Australia I have no concept of the geography of these places. I've trawled the IGI & purchased some death certificates from the GRO, but does anyone have access to PR's, burial records or monumental inscriptions for Carnwath? Related families that lived in that village were GRAHAM, KIDD, BAIRD, SMITH. I'm also interested in THOMSONs from Walston (this aunt has a Sampler worked in 1809 by her great grandmother Elizabeth THOMPSON, daughter of Thomas & Margaret nee DEANS or DEON.) Thankyou in hope Rosemary
Hello Rosemary, Kaimend is a tiny settlement, on the eastern side of Carnwath, whose name reflects its topography ! A 'kaim' or kame or 'drumlin' is the Scots word for the gently rolling sandhills and piles of glacial 'outwash' - sand and smoothly rolled boulders - that are the last traces of the meltwater streams that flowed along the bottoms of ancient glaciers that covered this area in the last ice age ... Kaimend sits literally at the end of the largest set of these in the Clyde / Mouse valley. The landscape to the north west and north east of Carnwath is formed of these ancient sandhills - a landscape that mimics Switzerland in its glaciated traces, but without the mountains !. It was mostly an 'estate village' for workers in the Bertram House estate - farm and agricultural 'servants' and sits to the north of the river and the famous 'Carnwath Mill' that features in the Scots song known worldwide as ' No Awa' tae Bide Awa'. Robert Burns ( the Poet) spent a rollicking weekend here in the late 1700's and changed horses here on his way to publish the 'Kilmarnock Edition' of his famous poems at Edinburgh. Archibald Prentice of Covington Mill and his brother who had the Bank ( a farm) in Carnwath were his hosts ... Carnwath is a very ancient little town, of Norman origin, that grew around a 'Motte and Bailey' Castle on an earth mound, and a small 'Chapel of Ease' established to expiate the sins of the Baron de Sommerville and his families ... Its streets still show the 'higgledy piggledy' edges of the feudal plots for houses and shops (nothing follows a straight line in Carnwath ...). Nowadays, it has a few small shops, and houses, a good golf course ( round the Castle mound), the old Church and the Parish Church / Cemetery. Most folk will travel out to work, or work in the nearby State Hospital or maybe on the small industrial estate on the east side of the Town. Farming is the major activity in the area and part of the sandhills are being quarried (erratically) as the demand for concrete rises and falls. You can have a look at both Carnwath and Kaimend / Bertram House via Google Earth ... G Russell Carluke ( about 7 miles from Carnwath )
Hi: I am almost afraid to respond to this message. Am I supposed to change the subject line? Why? In any event I want to thank Mr./Mrs/Ms Russell for the wonderful history. It does not mean anything to my family tree but it was a wonderful message that we need more of on this mail list. I almost wish my ancestors were from Kaiment or Carnwath so I could include it in my Genealogy. Thank you again. Frank Easton Sherwood Park Alberta. -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of G Russell Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:18 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Kaimend & Carnwath Hello Rosemary, Kaimend is a tiny settlement, on the eastern side of Carnwath, whose name reflects its topography !
More ... on Carnwath / Kaimend .... Carnwath is the Parish - all records available via the ScotlandsPeople website (pre-payment needed) GGR
Hello Folks, Many thanks for the compliments and comments received which are completely undeserved. I am fortunate to be able to live in the southern part of the County, and only just on the edge of the Industrial belt whose economy radically changed the lives of many thousands of people and the landscape around them. My own forebears were involved in that 'industrial boom time' but unlike others, were not (wholly) driven to leave here in the worst times. Now that we are in a 'post Industrial age' here, I can watch nature reclaiming the areas damaged in the last 200 years, but I am concerned that the present generations do not realise that they only 'stand on the shoulders' of many previous generations whose life struggles made the place , and indeed the people, what they are today. To work against that, I have read and collected widely the fragments of those past lives and livings and if I can assist anyone to complete the jigsaw of their own experience, I shall do so. There are a few standard sources of 'historical sketches' of Lanarkshire life. I can heartily recommend the several Victorian Parish histories that were written in the mid to late 19th century (though they were written from completely different social viewpoints to those of the mass of the population) . The production of the Ordnance Survey maps produced a stream of commentaries and descriptive work (some not quite accurate in parts) and even the 'railway guides' such as Murray's can be useful. Trade and other Directories do exist ( commonly from the 1830's ) which were the 'Yellow Pages' of the times but don't expect them to be comprehensive .... payment was required for entries and some traders / places do not appear. Newspapers are also archived in national and local collections - but many are fragmentary and definitely not available 'online'. Searching microfilmed copies is whiles possible ( in Edinburgh and Glasgow ) The Public (and University) libraries have massive, but not omniscient, collections. The Mitchell ( in Glasgow ) and the National Library of Scotland ( in Edinburgh ) are invaluable, if understaffed, sources. Some indexes are online ( but most not ) ; do not overlook the National Archive of Scotland whose general Catalogue is freely available online and whose Map collection is unsurpassed ( and online !). Local History and Family History societies are often contactable online, and have members (like me) collecting and researching in areas. The Local Authorities maintain Archives - sometimes of just their own material, sometimes of locally made collections, and may do limited research for those who can't turn up and do it themselves. We all owe a planetary sized debt to the dedication and packrat tendencies of countless Librarians who maintain, cross reference and expand ( with little or no funding ) the collections of Towns, Trades, Counties and Industries. Without our past, we have no future ... Here endeth the Sermon for today !!! (Mr G)eorge Russell Carluke, South Lanarkshire, Scotland
Hello Listers On the 1851 census Peter SMITH of Carnwath is recorded as born c1775 at "Mich Mass, Aberdeen". On the 1851 census, Marion BROWN was living with 2 of her sons at "U P Chapel Essa Michell Church", Carnwath. (I suppose that UP was United Presbyterian?) Does anyone have any idea where these places were? Thankyou Rosemary
> On the 1851 census Peter SMITH of Carnwath is recorded as born > c1775 at > "Mich Mass, Aberdeen". > > On the 1851 census, Marion BROWN was living with 2 of her sons > at "U P > Chapel Essa Michell Church", Carnwath. (I suppose that UP was > United > Presbyterian?) > > Does anyone have any idea where these places were? Are these your readings of the original census images or are they from a transcription? Anne