Hi Nivard , That is definately the right family Nivard, no wonder I couldnt find them, thank you so much .Yes I have them on the other census in Wales. You have helped me before on other lists, I knew I couldnt forget that wonderful name of yours, thanks again much appreciated. Jackie > > Hi Jackie > > Interesting transcription on Ancestry <vbg> > > Name: Obadiah Treseder > Age: 26 > Estimated birth year: abt 1845 > Relationship: Head > Spouse's name : Emma > Gender: Male > Where born: England > Registration Number: 652/2 > Registration district: Old Monkland Middle District > Civil parish: Old Monkland > Town: Coatbridge > County: Lanarkshire > Address: Coatbridge Ellis's Land > Occupation: Tin Worker > ED: 7 > Household schedule number: 104 > Line: 8 > Roll: CSSCT1871_148 > Household Members: > Name Age > Obadiah Treseder 26 > Emma Treseder 22 > William Robert Treseder 5 > John Henry Treseder 1 > Henry Leon Summerbell 25 > > Parish: Old Monkland; ED: 7; Page: 29; Line: 8; Roll CSSCT1871_148; > Year: > 1871. > > You would need the census page to confirm but looks to be your lot > > I have entered an alternative surname which will show up in searches in a > few weeks > > At least with Ancestry you have a chance of finding people as you can > search > on all combinations > > I take it you know they were in Wales in 1891 & 1901? >