Hello List I am new to the list but have been researching my husband's family tree for a long time. At the moment I am looking at the Irish branch of his family in Old Monkland. > I have found part of my husband's family on the 1861 and 1871 > Censuses in Coatland, Old Monkland. William Robertson and his wife > Jane were born in Ireland. I am having trouble finding them on the > 1851 Census. This may be because Robertson is a common name or > perhaps they were in Ireland in 1851. > > Can anyone tell me when most Irish people came to Scotland, are > there any records of them leaving Ireland and where is the best > place to look for Irish records on the internet? > > Many thanks for your help. Barbara Black

Hello Barbara It depends on why they left Ireland. My maternal Irish (Protestant) GG Grandparents were married in Glasgow in 1840. My paternal Irish (Catholic) GG Grandparents arrived in Scotland in the mid-1850s. T C Smout in his book, "A Century of the Scottish People" says: "The census of 1841 listed 125,000 Irish-born individuals in Scotland and in the famine of 1848 there were up to 1,000 new arrivals a week from Ireland into Glasgow......The vast majority of migrants arrived from the Province of Ulster". As far as I am aware there are no records of migration from Ireland to Scotland, such as passenger lists. Many Irish records including the earlier Irish censuses were lost in a fire in Dublin in the early 1920s. So looking for Irish ancestors in the early 1800s is not easy, if not impossible. What is available can be found on the Irish Family History Foundation's site at http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ It is a pay site, and in my opinion, is not cheap. The charges are in Euros. You can also find the Irish Civil Registration indices on the Family Search site at http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=collectionDetails Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Black" <barbarablack@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: [Lanark] Irish Families in Old Monkland > Hello List > > I am new to the list but have been researching my husband's family > tree for a long time. Can anyone tell me when most Irish people came to Scotland, are there any records of them leaving Ireland and where is the best place to look for Irish records on the internet?

Hello Barbara I have been waiting to see what sort of responses you received to your request. To my amazement several years ago I found my great grandfather was born in Ireland - no county given. Not Glasgow, where my grandfather and family, including my father were born and raised. I presumed that it was Northern Ireland, because the family was protestant. And there I have been stuck ever since. I'm afraid I can't offer any advice about where you go next. But I strongly suggest you read a book called simply IRISH by John Burrowes. I obtained it on the internet. It tells a graphic story of the movement of hundreds, nay thousands of people between Northern Ireland and Scotland in the first half of the 19th century. It is very easy to read and is a harrowing tale. But I'm afraid offers no clues about your actual ancestors. Research in Ireland - compared with Scotland - is like a huge brick wall. Good luck Dale Margaret (Australia) > Hello List > > I am new to the list but have been researching my husband's family > tree for a long time. > > At the moment I am looking at the Irish branch of his family in Old > Monkland. > >> I have found part of my husband's family on the 1861 and 1871 >> Censuses in Coatland, Old Monkland. William Robertson and his wife >> Jane were born in Ireland. I am having trouble finding them on the >> 1851 Census. This may be because Robertson is a common name or >> perhaps they were in Ireland in 1851. >> >> Can anyone tell me when most Irish people came to Scotland, are >> there any records of them leaving Ireland and where is the best >> place to look for Irish records on the internet? >> >> Many thanks for your help. > > Barbara Black > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message