Hi Jill Regiments went where they were sent The movements of the 77th are given as 1820 England 1823 Ireland 1824 Jamaica 1834 England 1834 Ireland 1837 Malta 1842 Ionian Islands: Corfu 1843 Jamaica 1846 Nova Scotia 1848 England 1854 Malta Then on to the Crimea The 77th was (the East Middlesex) Regiment of Foot from 1807 Wives were taken on the strength and were used abroad to cook, nurse etc they drew half rations and children quarter rations Not all wives went it was often down to a lottery on the quayside (I suppose its debatable who won, those that went or those that stayed) around one in twelve wives went on the strength I have never heard of any passenger lists as such for troops coming or going I would take a look at the research guides on the National Archives under British Army with a view to tracing any records for your man http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Question: As a soldier what was the regiment doing in Jamaica, probably > between 1820 and 1845 or so? If it was a fighting unit, why did the wife > go to live there and subsequently give birth? I doubt whether he was an > officer although it appears he was a career soldier. > Did they return from the West Indies or go on somewhere else? With > military movements were there Passenger Records of the ships? > Also, John, the son, returned home on a ship, Both sons were always > employed as Cotton Weavers. > > Any suggestions about this period? They were at the tail end of slavery > in the West Indies at this time, but a lot of unrest I assume. > > Thanks. Jill T.
Jill, With a surname like McBain you might like to check Inverness/Nairn as a possible place of origin for his parents. Mark -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 12 January 2010 22:54 To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] McBain - Soldier Hi Jill Regiments went where they were sent The movements of the 77th are given as 1820 England 1823 Ireland 1824 Jamaica 1834 England 1834 Ireland 1837 Malta 1842 Ionian Islands: Corfu 1843 Jamaica 1846 Nova Scotia 1848 England 1854 Malta Then on to the Crimea The 77th was (the East Middlesex) Regiment of Foot from 1807 Wives were taken on the strength and were used abroad to cook, nurse etc they drew half rations and children quarter rations Not all wives went it was often down to a lottery on the quayside (I suppose its debatable who won, those that went or those that stayed) around one in twelve wives went on the strength I have never heard of any passenger lists as such for troops coming or going I would take a look at the research guides on the National Archives under British Army with a view to tracing any records for your man http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Question: As a soldier what was the regiment doing in Jamaica, probably > between 1820 and 1845 or so? If it was a fighting unit, why did the wife > go to live there and subsequently give birth? I doubt whether he was an > officer although it appears he was a career soldier. > Did they return from the West Indies or go on somewhere else? With > military movements were there Passenger Records of the ships? > Also, John, the son, returned home on a ship, Both sons were always > employed as Cotton Weavers. > > Any suggestions about this period? They were at the tail end of slavery > in the West Indies at this time, but a lot of unrest I assume. > > Thanks. Jill T. ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Nivard One of my ancestors Michael Gillespie was born in Jersey in 1811. On his baptismal records his father's occupation was not shown. His father waas James Gillespie and his mother Isabella Baird. Michael ended up as a shoemaker in Edinburgh. On his death certificate James' occupation was gardener. I've long thought his father was in the militia. Any ideas you have would be greatly appreciated. Regards Ella Ross Any help to ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [Lanark] McBain - Soldier > Hi Jill > > Regiments went where they were sent > > The movements of the 77th are given as > > 1820 England > 1823 Ireland > 1824 Jamaica > 1834 England > 1834 Ireland > 1837 Malta > 1842 Ionian Islands: Corfu > 1843 Jamaica > 1846 Nova Scotia > 1848 England > 1854 Malta > Then on to the Crimea > The 77th was (the East Middlesex) Regiment of Foot from 1807 > > Wives were taken on the strength and were used abroad to cook, nurse etc > they drew half rations and children quarter rations > > Not all wives went it was often down to a lottery on the quayside (I > suppose > its debatable who won, those that went or those that stayed) around one in > twelve wives went on the strength > > I have never heard of any passenger lists as such for troops coming or > going > > I would take a look at the research guides on the National Archives under > British Army with a view to tracing any records for your man > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > >> Question: As a soldier what was the regiment doing in Jamaica, probably >> between 1820 and 1845 or so? If it was a fighting unit, why did the wife >> go to live there and subsequently give birth? I doubt whether he was an >> officer although it appears he was a career soldier. >> Did they return from the West Indies or go on somewhere else? With >> military movements were there Passenger Records of the ships? >> Also, John, the son, returned home on a ship, Both sons were always >> employed as Cotton Weavers. >> >> Any suggestions about this period? They were at the tail end of slavery >> in the West Indies at this time, but a lot of unrest I assume. >> >> Thanks. Jill T. > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you to all those that responded in such detail to my question about Alexander Mcbain, soldier in Glasgow in 1819 Yes, he was a soldier at the time of the marriage, but the certification of his marriage is in a civil document which was on line. He was married to a Catherine Leslie in Glasgow but they could well have come from Aberdeen or Inverness areas. I have some links to follow up for those searches. >From the info on troop movements, I would guess that that he was in the movement to Jamaica in 1824 as his second son John was born in 1833 there. That seems very logical to me. Gay you asked about the two sons. Alexander the eldest son was born in Glasgow before they travelled anywhere. I can look that birth up in the Mitchell library as we will be in Glasgow in March. There may well be other children between the two boys as that is a 14 - 15 year gap. Other children may not have come back to Britain if the parents remained overseas. It is strange that if the soldier was killed on duty that the wife did not return home to be with the sons who lived in Scotland PS. Alexander the younger is in the 1861 census in Edinburgh with some of his sons. It appears that the family had split up. Again thanks for the advice and I will continue the search My next question to put to the group is relating to the Lamb family. More on that next week. Jill -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 289 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message