Just a follow up on this subject, I have both of these census ' and as far as I am concerned they are invaluable. The can be purchased (very reasonable) from the Lanarkshire Family History Society. My question is this however. The Church of Scotland directed their clergy to take these census'. Evidently some did some did not. Some were destroyed and some were not. Some are in private collections some are not. SOME ARE PUBLIC, SOME ARE NOT! It would be very helpful for the study of Scottish genealogy if we had a list of the 1821 and 1783 census records that are actually available. I do apologize that this question goes beyond the borders of Lanarkshire however does such a list exist and if so where. Thank you Frank Easton Sherwood Park, +24c