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    1. [Lanark] Glasgow sound has stayed the same
    2. Maisie Egger via
    3. Researchers say that the Glaswegian sound has stayed the same, The Jan/Feb 2016 issue of The Highlander magazine is a bit more informative than this Google link, though the research is by the same person: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/619869/Future-Scottish-accents-sounding-good The Highlander magazine heading: “Scottish Accents Endure While England’s Disappear” is maybe a bit of a glittering generality as English friends and relatives seem to have the same speech pattern as they started out with. To me, the Glasgow ‘wye o’ speakin’ is ‘murder polis’ and has indeed not changed a bit! Noted before, since coming to North American, I have had to train myself to soften the Glasgow way of speaking as no one could understand me, yet I did not consider myself rough spoken. Being an office worker one had to smooth the edges off a bit when answering the phone. As a young office girl I was tri-lingual(!): the house speech where my mother would not tolerate even acceptable Scottish words---standard English in this house, please; business office lingo, then street patter if one were associating with others outside of one’s normal purlieu. A little tip off would be if a young teenage girl from another street would ask if you went to the jiggin’. Jiggin’? No, you’d answer politely, I’m too young to be allowed to go to (the) dancing. Researchers at the University of Glasgow concluded from audio recordings dating from WWI that English regional accents are becoming more homogenized than Scots accents. The assumption was that traditional regional accents throughout the U.K. were being softened and dying out. The contention is that Glaswegian is less liable to change than what is going on in areas of England. Whether from a rough part of Glasgow or the more refined west end, it would appear, according to this research, that all levels of the Glasgow way of speaking have been maintained without too much change. Again, it all depends on where one lives in Glasgow and how a particular area affects the speech pattern. If one is a bit more refined one could be ‘accused’ of speaking with a Kelvinside accent (west side of Glasgow). Also, if one were university educated, Glasgow or otherwise, it is almost a foregone conclusion that the edges have been taken off the typical-sounding Glaswegian’s voice. One of my mother’s sisters attended Glasgow University and sounded so much more ‘refined,’ shall we say, than her four sisters. To quote “Ah’m no’ a herry fae Ferry Street!” --- I am not a hairy (tough, loud, mouthy person) person from Fairy Street! Maisie

    01/13/2016 09:44:49
    1. Re: [Lanark] Glasgow sound has stayed the same
    2. Nivard Ovington via
    3. Hi Maisie When I read articles like this I do wonder if the people making them up actually set foot outside of their ivory towers, be they in Glasgow Uni or London The regional accents are alive and well as far as I can can tell Whereas in London its just a mixture of languages often foreign ones mixed with English Some people have always changed the way they speak "to get on", its just a fact of life, no matter what some may say You are clearly more likely to get on in most jobs if you speak properly Perhaps this is a slow news period and they are needing to fill column? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14/01/2016 00:44, Maisie Egger via wrote: > Researchers say that the Glaswegian sound has stayed the same, > > The Jan/Feb 2016 issue of The Highlander magazine is a bit more > informative than this Google link, though the research is by the same > person: > > http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/619869/Future-Scottish-accents-sounding-good > > The Highlander magazine heading: “Scottish Accents Endure While > England’s Disappear” is maybe a bit of a glittering generality as > English friends and relatives seem to have the same speech pattern as > they started out with. > > To me, the Glasgow ‘wye o’ speakin’ is ‘murder polis’ and has indeed > not changed a bit! Noted before, since coming to North American, I > have had to train myself to soften the Glasgow way of speaking as no > one could understand me, yet I did not consider myself rough spoken. > Being an office worker one had to smooth the edges off a bit when > answering the phone. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

    01/14/2016 02:18:02
    1. Re: [Lanark] Glasgow sound has stayed the same
    2. Iain McKenzie via
    3. Maisie, Being trilingual, you were not alone, according to a programme on BBC Radio 4. Linguists have discovered that it is quite usual for teenagers to have five versions of their language that they use; typically one for use at home, one for the classroom and one for the playground, plus others. They did not mix them up. My memory at Hillington primary school was that you could not tell much about a person by the speech they used in class, but once you were in the playground you could almost tell which street they lived in by the nuances of their playground speech. Thank you for starting this thread. I'm sure it is one we all have a view on. Iain McKenzie On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Researchers say that the Glaswegian sound has stayed the same, > > The Jan/Feb 2016 issue of The Highlander magazine is a bit more > informative than this Google link, though the research is by the same > person: > > > http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/619869/Future-Scottish-accents-sounding-good > > The Highlander magazine heading: “Scottish Accents Endure While England’s > Disappear” is maybe a bit of a glittering generality as English friends and > relatives seem to have the same speech pattern as they started out with. > > To me, the Glasgow ‘wye o’ speakin’ is ‘murder polis’ and has indeed not > changed a bit! Noted before, since coming to North American, I have had to > train myself to soften the Glasgow way of speaking as no one could > understand me, yet I did not consider myself rough spoken. Being an office > worker one had to smooth the edges off a bit when answering the phone. > > As a young office girl I was tri-lingual(!): the house speech where my > mother would not tolerate even acceptable Scottish words---standard English > in this house, please; business office lingo, then street patter if one > were associating with others outside of one’s normal purlieu. A little tip > off would be if a young teenage girl from another street would ask if you > went to the jiggin’. Jiggin’? No, you’d answer politely, I’m too young to > be allowed to go to (the) dancing. > > Researchers at the University of Glasgow concluded from audio recordings > dating from WWI that English regional accents are becoming more homogenized > than Scots accents. The assumption was that traditional regional accents > throughout the U.K. were being softened and dying out. > > The contention is that Glaswegian is less liable to change than what is > going on in areas of England. Whether from a rough part of Glasgow or the > more refined west end, it would appear, according to this research, that > all levels of the Glasgow way of speaking have been maintained without too > much change. > > Again, it all depends on where one lives in Glasgow and how a particular > area affects the speech pattern. If one is a bit more refined one could be > ‘accused’ of speaking with a Kelvinside accent (west side of Glasgow). > Also, if one were university educated, Glasgow or otherwise, it is almost a > foregone conclusion that the edges have been taken off the typical-sounding > Glaswegian’s voice. One of my mother’s sisters attended Glasgow University > and sounded so much more ‘refined,’ shall we say, than her four sisters. > > To quote “Ah’m no’ a herry fae Ferry Street!” --- I am not a hairy > (tough, loud, mouthy person) person from Fairy Street! > > Maisie > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/14/2016 09:14:34