When I spent time living with some of my Australian cousins, they commented that I didn't have an accent, I sounded like them in Queensland. I had honed it down before leaving the states, which has so many variations. But like leaning other foreign languages, learning to speak and understand them without your native born dialect is so important. In high school, my Spanish instructor asked me if I had any Hispanic origins as I was speaking without any American accent. Of course the answer was no, I just challenge myself to think in any other language or dialect to help with learning it better. My Swedish born grandmother and her sisters would converse in what seemed like music, Swedish. Which I had to learn some and understand as a child as well. My McKinley family was from Glasgow, but I was born after my great grandfather had died. Since my parents were born over 100 years ago, I grew up with and older lexicon and stories about my great grandfather. Dale McKinley ----- Original Message ----- From: "nautakat via" <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: "'Iain McKenzie'" <iainmckenzie10@gmail.com>; <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Glasgow sound has stayed the same > I'm with you on this, Maisie. > Within a week of emigrating to Australia I had developed the Australian > accent to be used at school while maintaining the Manchester one for home. > The fear was that I would slip up and use the wrong accent and so invite > the dreaded teasing. > Kathryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Iain McKenzie via > Sent: Friday, 15 January 2016 3:15 AM > To: Maisie Egger; lanark@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Glasgow sound has stayed the same > > Maisie, > > Being trilingual, you were not alone, according to a programme on BBC > Radio 4. Linguists have discovered that it is quite usual for teenagers to > have five versions of their language that they use; typically one for use > at home, one for the classroom and one for the playground, plus others. > They did not mix them up. My memory at Hillington primary school was that > you could not tell much about a person by the speech they used in class, > but once you were in the playground you could almost tell which street > they lived in by the nuances of their playground speech. > > Thank you for starting this thread. I'm sure it is one we all have a view > on. > > Iain McKenzie > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Researchers say that the Glaswegian sound has stayed the same, >> >> The Jan/Feb 2016 issue of The Highlander magazine is a bit more >> informative than this Google link, though the research is by the same >> person: >> >> >> http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/619869/Future-Scottish-accents-soundi >> ng-good >> >> The Highlander magazine heading: “Scottish Accents Endure While >> England’s Disappear” is maybe a bit of a glittering generality as >> English friends and relatives seem to have the same speech pattern as >> they started out with. >> >> To me, the Glasgow ‘wye o’ speakin’ is ‘murder polis’ and has indeed >> not changed a bit! Noted before, since coming to North American, I >> have had to train myself to soften the Glasgow way of speaking as no >> one could understand me, yet I did not consider myself rough spoken. >> Being an office worker one had to smooth the edges off a bit when >> answering the phone. >> >> As a young office girl I was tri-lingual(!): the house speech where >> my mother would not tolerate even acceptable Scottish words---standard >> English in this house, please; business office lingo, then street >> patter if one were associating with others outside of one’s normal >> purlieu. A little tip off would be if a young teenage girl from >> another street would ask if you went to the jiggin’. Jiggin’? No, >> you’d answer politely, I’m too young to be allowed to go to (the) >> dancing. >> >> Researchers at the University of Glasgow concluded from audio >> recordings dating from WWI that English regional accents are becoming >> more homogenized than Scots accents. The assumption was that >> traditional regional accents throughout the U.K. were being softened and >> dying out. >> >> The contention is that Glaswegian is less liable to change than what >> is going on in areas of England. Whether from a rough part of Glasgow >> or the more refined west end, it would appear, according to this >> research, that all levels of the Glasgow way of speaking have been >> maintained without too much change. >> >> Again, it all depends on where one lives in Glasgow and how a >> particular area affects the speech pattern. If one is a bit more >> refined one could be ‘accused’ of speaking with a Kelvinside accent (west >> side of Glasgow). >> Also, if one were university educated, Glasgow or otherwise, it is >> almost a foregone conclusion that the edges have been taken off the >> typical-sounding Glaswegian’s voice. One of my mother’s sisters >> attended Glasgow University and sounded so much more ‘refined,’ shall we >> say, than her four sisters. >> >> To quote “Ah’m no’ a herry fae Ferry Street!” --- I am not a hairy >> (tough, loud, mouthy person) person from Fairy Street! >> >> Maisie >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier >> message. 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Is there any body researching BRYCE or SWAN I have a Thomas BRYCE who married Janet SWAN in 1845 in Gorbals. His Parents were Thomas BRYCE and Isobella ALLEN who were married in 1804 in St Cuthberts Church Edinburgh. I have nothing on when or where Thomas the younger was born or when or where Janet SWAN was born, I do know that her father was John SWAN and her mother Janet PEARSON. Is there anybody who can help? Fran Stewart Brisbane Australia.

They certainly seem to be conspicuous by their absence from the IGI on FamilySearch! You obviously have more information on them than you have told us. It helps to have all the details handy and to know where you have already looked. For example How do you know the names of the parents of your Thomas and Janet? What was Thomas' occupation? Do you have any relevant original records from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk? Did they emigrate, and if so, when? Have you searched the census at www.freecen.org.uk? What were the names, approximate dates of birth and birthplaces of the children of Thomas and Janet? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran Stewart via" <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:00 AM Subject: [Lanark] Swan and Bryce > Is there any body researching BRYCE or SWAN I have a Thomas > BRYCE who > married Janet SWAN in 1845 in Gorbals. His Parents were Thomas > BRYCE and > Isobella ALLEN who were married in 1804 in St Cuthberts Church > Edinburgh. > I have nothing on when or where Thomas the younger was born or > when or where > Janet SWAN was born, I do know that her father was John SWAN > and her mother > Janet PEARSON. Is there anybody who can help? > > Fran Stewart > Brisbane Australia. > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the > earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as > LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or > click on the following link to the list information page > online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6176 / Virus Database: 4522/11442 - Release > Date: 01/20/16 >