Queries and answers, please. I must assume that 42 Parliamentary Road, Townhead, Glasgow, was a tenement building where my father’s great-grandfather James Hillcoat died. Parliamentary Road no longer exists as formerly, but I am assuming that #42 had to be near the Buchanan Street end. I cannot find on Google Little Downhill, Glasgow, where James Hillcosat was born 17 April, 1791. There is an upscale Downhill, but putting two and two together, James Hillcoat seems to have lived in more modest areas of Glasgow. At one time he and his wife Helen Young (31 Oct 1795-20 Dec 1867) lived at 62 Weaver St., Townhead, Glasgow, where Jenny Myers’ Keith (also a potter) also lived. Both James Hillcoat and Keith also lived in Rutherglen, where they worked in the pottery there. Two of James Hillcoat and Helen Young Hillcoat’s 11 children died at the age of 68 and 61 respectively in Rutherglen, within a month of each other long after James Hillcoat died (1857), so the assumption is that they, too, likely were potters in Rutherglen. James Hillcoat (son) b. 23 Aug 1825, Newton, Renfrewshire, d. 4 Dec. 1893 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire. Thomas Young Hillcoat b. 1832 ?, s. 24 Nov. 1893 Rutherglen, unless I have the years of their deaths mixed up. I can’t find the district of Newton, only the rather upscale Newton Mearns, and so I wonder now if Newton goes by another name. Questions then: 42 Parliamentary Rd. a tenement? Where would Little Downhill be located? James jr. and Thomas Young Hillcoat died the same year 1893? Is/Was Newton a separate area from Newton Mearns? Maisie

According to Lesley Williams, author of the book *Mearns Matters - rural parish to Glasgow suburb *the New Statistical Account has this to say: *The principal village in the parish (of Mearns) is Newtown, situated about half a mile northwest from the parish church. It is a burghof barony, and has the right of holding a weekly market, and two annual fairs. It contains about 500 or 600 inhabitants, andis formed chiefly of two rows of houses on the Glasgow and Ayrshire road, with a good Inn.* I hope this helps. Best Regards, Iain McKenzie. On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Queries and answers, please. > > I must assume that 42 Parliamentary Road, Townhead, Glasgow, was a > tenement building where my father’s great-grandfather James Hillcoat died. > Parliamentary Road no longer exists as formerly, but I am assuming that > #42 had to be near the Buchanan Street end. > > I cannot find on Google Little Downhill, Glasgow, where James Hillcosat > was born 17 April, 1791. There is an upscale Downhill, but putting two and > two together, James Hillcoat seems to have lived in more modest areas of > Glasgow. At one time he and his wife Helen Young (31 Oct 1795-20 Dec 1867) > lived at 62 Weaver St., Townhead, Glasgow, where Jenny Myers’ Keith (also > a potter) also lived. Both James Hillcoat and Keith also lived in > Rutherglen, where they worked in the pottery there. > > Two of James Hillcoat and Helen Young Hillcoat’s 11 children died at the > age of 68 and 61 respectively in Rutherglen, within a month of each other > long after James Hillcoat died (1857), so the assumption is that they, too, > likely were potters in Rutherglen. James Hillcoat (son) b. 23 Aug 1825, > Newton, Renfrewshire, d. 4 Dec. 1893 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire. Thomas Young > Hillcoat b. 1832 ?, s. 24 Nov. 1893 Rutherglen, unless I have the years of > their deaths mixed up. > > I can’t find the district of Newton, only the rather upscale Newton > Mearns, and so I wonder now if Newton goes by another name. > > Questions then: > 42 Parliamentary Rd. a tenement? > Where would Little Downhill be located? > James jr. and Thomas Young Hillcoat died the same year 1893? > Is/Was Newton a separate area from Newton Mearns? > > Maisie > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maisie, Addresses on most censuses can often give an idea of the type of dwelling in a town. If there are, say, six or ten families at an address and the neighbouring numbers also show many households then the chances are they will be tenements. The Mitchell Library has all the Glasgow censuses on microfilm 1841 to 1901. So it's quite easy to scroll through the pages to see who was living on any street. Though saying that occasionally some pages can have very faint ink. Alas the 1911 will not be microfilmed for libraries etc. in the same way for public use. -- Could Little Downhill be a difficult to read Little Dovehill? That street has been around a long time - and the name at least still exists. It's now has trees and a car park. Here's a link to an NLS map of around 1778. http://maps.nls.uk/joins/2767.html Click on top right map quarter. Use mouse wheel to zoom in to Gallowgate Street at bottom left of map. Little Dovehill runs north from there to the Old Vennel. Jack -------------------------------------------------------------------- On 20/04/2016 22:17, Maisie Egger via wrote: > Queries and answers, please. > > I must assume that 42 Parliamentary Road, Townhead, Glasgow, was a tenement building where my father’s great-grandfather James Hillcoat died. > Parliamentary Road no longer exists as formerly, but I am assuming that #42 had to be near the Buchanan Street end. > > I cannot find on Google Little Downhill, Glasgow, where James Hillcosat was born 17 April, 1791. There is an upscale Downhill, but putting two and two together, James Hillcoat seems to have lived in more modest areas of Glasgow. At one time he and his wife Helen Young (31 Oct 1795-20 Dec 1867) lived at 62 Weaver St., Townhead, Glasgow, where Jenny Myers’ Keith (also a potter) also lived. Both James Hillcoat and Keith also lived in Rutherglen, where they worked in the pottery there. > > Two of James Hillcoat and Helen Young Hillcoat’s 11 children died at the age of 68 and 61 respectively in Rutherglen, within a month of each other long after James Hillcoat died (1857), so the assumption is that they, too, likely were potters in Rutherglen. James Hillcoat (son) b. 23 Aug 1825, Newton, Renfrewshire, d. 4 Dec. 1893 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire. Thomas Young Hillcoat b. 1832 ?, s. 24 Nov. 1893 Rutherglen, unless I have the years of their deaths mixed up. > > I can’t find the district of Newton, only the rather upscale Newton Mearns, and so I wonder now if Newton goes by another name. > > Questions then: > 42 Parliamentary Rd. a tenement? > Where would Little Downhill be located? > James jr. and Thomas Young Hillcoat died the same year 1893? > Is/Was Newton a separate area from Newton Mearns? > > Maisie

Yes, Jack, I think you hit the nail on the head with the suggestion that the place was Little Dovehill (Gallowgate?) as I seem to remember that I might have a census somewhere among my stuff where 'some' Hillcoat among my forebears lived there. Also, I think I saw some pictures online of some buildings in Little Dovehill, but too many computers have gone bye-byes for me to check. I now have an external free agent to save stuff. I'm useless at research and have to have my friend in Nottingham scrounge around for me. It helps that I grew up in Glasgow, but that doesn't help in doing genealogy research. On this, are the Mitchel censuses available online? Incidentally, others on my mother's side lived in the Old Vennel, High Street, Duke Street, and in other places around old Glasgow. The rare one lived in a bungalow or so in Bearsden and Milngavie later on! Thank you, Jack, for your input. Maisie -----Original Message----- From: Jack P Mills via Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 2:22 AM To: LANARK- List Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hillcoat queries Maisie, Addresses on most censuses can often give an idea of the type of dwelling in a town. If there are, say, six or ten families at an address and the neighbouring numbers also show many households then the chances are they will be tenements. The Mitchell Library has all the Glasgow censuses on microfilm 1841 to 1901. So it's quite easy to scroll through the pages to see who was living on any street. Though saying that occasionally some pages can have very faint ink. Alas the 1911 will not be microfilmed for libraries etc. in the same way for public use. -- Could Little Downhill be a difficult to read Little Dovehill? That street has been around a long time - and the name at least still exists. It's now has trees and a car park. Here's a link to an NLS map of around 1778. http://maps.nls.uk/joins/2767.html Click on top right map quarter. Use mouse wheel to zoom in to Gallowgate Street at bottom left of map. Little Dovehill runs north from there to the Old Vennel. Jack -------------------------------------------------------------------- On 20/04/2016 22:17, Maisie Egger via wrote: > Queries and answers, please. > > I must assume that 42 Parliamentary Road, Townhead, Glasgow, was a > tenement building where my father’s great-grandfather James Hillcoat died. > Parliamentary Road no longer exists as formerly, but I am assuming that > #42 had to be near the Buchanan Street end. > > I cannot find on Google Little Downhill, Glasgow, where James Hillcosat > was born 17 April, 1791. There is an upscale Downhill, but putting two > and two together, James Hillcoat seems to have lived in more modest areas > of Glasgow. At one time he and his wife Helen Young (31 Oct 1795-20 Dec > 1867) lived at 62 Weaver St., Townhead, Glasgow, where Jenny Myers’ Keith > (also a potter) also lived. Both James Hillcoat and Keith also lived in > Rutherglen, where they worked in the pottery there. > > Two of James Hillcoat and Helen Young Hillcoat’s 11 children died at the > age of 68 and 61 respectively in Rutherglen, within a month of each other > long after James Hillcoat died (1857), so the assumption is that they, > too, likely were potters in Rutherglen. James Hillcoat (son) b. 23 Aug > 1825, Newton, Renfrewshire, d. 4 Dec. 1893 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire. > Thomas Young Hillcoat b. 1832 ?, s. 24 Nov. 1893 Rutherglen, unless I have > the years of their deaths mixed up. > > I can’t find the district of Newton, only the rather upscale Newton > Mearns, and so I wonder now if Newton goes by another name. > > Questions then: > 42 Parliamentary Rd. a tenement? > Where would Little Downhill be located? > James jr. and Thomas Young Hillcoat died the same year 1893? > Is/Was Newton a separate area from Newton Mearns? > > Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maisie the only place you and I will view the census is at FREECEN and Ancestry which are transcriptions; Ancestry being the least correct of the two! Once you have the Enumeration details of each census, it is so much easier to cross reference and download images from ScotlandsPeople. If we lived in LKS, yes, we could spend many hours at the Mitchell !! It is also why I download the Valuation Rolls, if families moved within the 10 yrs of each census you are able to locate them. Regards, Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger via Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 1:25 PM To: Jack P Mills ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hillcoat queries Yes, Jack, I think you hit the nail on the head with the suggestion that the place was Little Dovehill (Gallowgate?) as I seem to remember that I might have a census somewhere among my stuff where 'some' Hillcoat among my forebears lived there. Also, I think I saw some pictures online of some buildings in Little Dovehill, but too many computers have gone bye-byes for me to check. I now have an external free agent to save stuff. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

I am no expert on Glasgow, Maisie, but I know of DOWANHILL area, which early everybody pronounces DOWNHILL missing the middle syllable. What do you think ? Archie Gilbert. -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger via Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 10:17 PM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Hillcoat queries Queries and answers, please. I must assume that 42 Parliamentary Road, Townhead, Glasgow, was a tenement building where my father’s great-grandfather James Hillcoat died. Parliamentary Road no longer exists as formerly, but I am assuming that #42 had to be near the Buchanan Street end. I cannot find on Google Little Downhill, Glasgow, where James Hillcosat was born 17 April, 1791. There is an upscale Downhill, but putting two and two together, James Hillcoat seems to have lived in more modest areas of Glasgow. At one time he and his wife Helen Young (31 Oct 1795-20 Dec 1867) lived at 62 Weaver St., Townhead, Glasgow, where Jenny Myers’ Keith (also a potter) also lived. Both James Hillcoat and Keith also lived in Rutherglen, where they worked in the pottery there. Two of James Hillcoat and Helen Young Hillcoat’s 11 children died at the age of 68 and 61 respectively in Rutherglen, within a month of each other long after James Hillcoat died (1857), so the assumption is that they, too, likely were potters in Rutherglen. James Hillcoat (son) b. 23 Aug 1825, Newton, Renfrewshire, d. 4 Dec. 1893 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire. Thomas Young Hillcoat b. 1832 ?, s. 24 Nov. 1893 Rutherglen, unless I have the years of their deaths mixed up. I can’t find the district of Newton, only the rather upscale Newton Mearns, and so I wonder now if Newton goes by another name. Questions then: 42 Parliamentary Rd. a tenement? Where would Little Downhill be located? James jr. and Thomas Young Hillcoat died the same year 1893? Is/Was Newton a separate area from Newton Mearns? Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message