Hi Frank, the guidance given here by National Records of Scotland: http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/adoption-records shows that official adoption started in 1930, so your brother's adoption happened just two years too early. Have you tried searching the NRS online catalogue for the name of the mother of your brother? It's possible she applied to the Sheriff Court for paternity and maintenance, as the mother of my 'lost uncle' William Robertson WILLISON did. The record of her suit states the name of baby William's father, ie. my grandfather Ernest DANFORTH. Of course, father of your brother may have done a swift exit to Canada to avoid responsibility, as the father in another out-of-wedlock situation in my Glasgow family did. But it's still worth a look for a paternity case at Sheriff Court. Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield, Derbyshire On 23 May 2016 at 16:44, Frank Mcgonigal via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > My brother was born at the Maternity Hospital in Glasgow in 1928.He was > adopted by my parents in Clydebank as a baby.I have his birth > registration.His mothers name is on it of course,but his fathers > wasn't.When my brother died his son asked me to try and find out who the > father was.I have lots of info on his mothers line but I couldn't find > anything on his fathers side,so I sent him a YDNA kit.Luckily I found a > match to a person in BC Canada whose ancestors came from Scotland.The > persons name was MacDonald,and was said to be connected to the Glencoe > MacDonalds. > Comparing pictures of my brother and new found cousin ..they look like > brothers. My question is..When did official adoption start in Scotland ?..I > believe it started after 1928.I've never found any adoption papers,and I > think my parents might have known the mother because she has the same > surname as someone who married into my mothers McColl family. > Thanks Frank McGonigal > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

IreneNo RCE note in the margin on the original birth Reg....I have the film 'Register of Corrected Entries' on permanent loan at my local FHC and I'll check anyway just to be sure.ThanksFrank~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > CC: frank017@sympatico.ca > From: lowlandscot@sky.com > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Adoption in Scotland > Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 18:34:12 +0100 > To: celiarenshaw@gmail.com; lanark@rootsweb.com > > Hi Frank > I think if the mother took the father to court and he was declared to be the father then there will be an RCE note ( Register of Corrected entries) on the birth certificate held at Register House....but would not be on an original birth certificate. The other point is that when one searches for the birth cert of an adopted child it comes up NRH on the computer in the search room.....which makes me wonder if they hold further info. > Have you tried emailing GRO(S) and asking if they can help? > Irene > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 23 May 2016, at 16:55, Celia Renshaw via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Frank, the guidance given here by National Records of Scotland: > > http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/adoption-records > > shows that official adoption started in 1930, so your brother's adoption > > happened just two years too early. > > > > Have you tried searching the NRS online catalogue for the name of the > > mother of your brother? It's possible she applied to the Sheriff Court for > > paternity and maintenance, as the mother of my 'lost uncle' William > > Robertson WILLISON did. The record of her suit states the name of baby > > William's father, ie. my grandfather Ernest DANFORTH. > > > > Of course, father of your brother may have done a swift exit to Canada to > > avoid responsibility, as the father in another out-of-wedlock situation in > > my Glasgow family did. But it's still worth a look for a paternity case at > > Sheriff Court. > > > > Celia Renshaw > > in Chesterfield, Derbyshire > > > >> On 23 May 2016 at 16:44, Frank Mcgonigal via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> > >> My brother was born at the Maternity Hospital in Glasgow in 1928.He was > >> adopted by my parents in Clydebank as a baby.I have his birth > >> registration.His mothers name is on it of course,but his fathers > >> wasn't.When my brother died his son asked me to try and find out who the > >> father was.I have lots of info on his mothers line but I couldn't find > >> anything on his fathers side,so I sent him a YDNA kit.Luckily I found a > >> match to a person in BC Canada whose ancestors came from Scotland.The > >> persons name was MacDonald,and was said to be connected to the Glencoe > >> MacDonalds. > >> Comparing pictures of my brother and new found cousin ..they look like > >> brothers. My question is..When did official adoption start in Scotland ?..I > >> believe it started after 1928.I've never found any adoption papers,and I > >> think my parents might have known the mother because she has the same > >> surname as someone who married into my mothers McColl family. > >> Thanks Frank McGonigal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> > >> WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > >> message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > >> > >> You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > >> the following link to the list information page online: > >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Celia..good advice...The MacDonald family came from the North of Scotland,and I believe that possibly the father could have been a soldier based in Glasgow..Maryhill Barracks ??..I tried to find a MacDonald around that time but found nothing.I'll check the link that you sent.Thanks very muchFrank Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 16:55:39 +0100 Subject: Re: [Lanark] Adoption in Scotland From: celiarenshaw@gmail.com To: frank017@sympatico.ca; lanark@rootsweb.com Hi Frank, the guidance given here by National Records of Scotland: http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/adoption-recordsshows that official adoption started in 1930, so your brother's adoption happened just two years too early. Have you tried searching the NRS online catalogue for the name of the mother of your brother? It's possible she applied to the Sheriff Court for paternity and maintenance, as the mother of my 'lost uncle' William Robertson WILLISON did. The record of her suit states the name of baby William's father, ie. my grandfather Ernest DANFORTH. Of course, father of your brother may have done a swift exit to Canada to avoid responsibility, as the father in another out-of-wedlock situation in my Glasgow family did. But it's still worth a look for a paternity case at Sheriff Court. Celia Renshawin Chesterfield, Derbyshire On 23 May 2016 at 16:44, Frank Mcgonigal via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: My brother was born at the Maternity Hospital in Glasgow in 1928.He was adopted by my parents in Clydebank as a baby.I have his birth registration.His mothers name is on it of course,but his fathers wasn't.When my brother died his son asked me to try and find out who the father was.I have lots of info on his mothers line but I couldn't find anything on his fathers side,so I sent him a YDNA kit.Luckily I found a match to a person in BC Canada whose ancestors came from Scotland.The persons name was MacDonald,and was said to be connected to the Glencoe MacDonalds. Comparing pictures of my brother and new found cousin ..they look like brothers. My question is..When did official adoption start in Scotland ?..I believe it started after 1928.I've never found any adoption papers,and I think my parents might have known the mother because she has the same surname as someone who married into my mothers McColl family. Thanks Frank McGonigal ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My brother was born at the Maternity Hospital in Glasgow in 1928.He was adopted by my parents in Clydebank as a baby.I have his birth registration.His mothers name is on it of course,but his fathers wasn't.When my brother died his son asked me to try and find out who the father was.I have lots of info on his mothers line but I couldn't find anything on his fathers side,so I sent him a YDNA kit.Luckily I found a match to a person in BC Canada whose ancestors came from Scotland.The persons name was MacDonald,and was said to be connected to the Glencoe MacDonalds. Comparing pictures of my brother and new found cousin ..they look like brothers. My question is..When did official adoption start in Scotland ?..I believe it started after 1928.I've never found any adoption papers,and I think my parents might have known the mother because she has the same surname as someone who married into my mothers McColl family. Thanks Frank McGonigal

Maisie,       Thanks for the insightful cultural history of Glasgow (in bits and pieces).        But most especially, thanks for the clip of Hali and siblings.  It was good to see that she is doing so well, and answered all the questions I've asked in the past.  I hope the 14 months of therapy work.       Planted the 5 different dianthus that came in the mail.  They have wonderful flowers on them, and hug the ground, so I planted them to the side of a path.      I found the plastic marker that came with a plant that has a dazzling display of dark plummish blue flowers every spring.  It also hugs the ground, so I looked it up, and it is carpathian harebell, a campanula.  I looked for cultural details, and discovered that it propagates easily from seed, and why it hadn't done so.  It has to have the seeds saved indoors and planted in the spring, so next year I'll have plenty.       Finished planting the last 4 hosta, and a free daylily, too.       Now I'm ready for the order from eBurgess, along with vegetable type stuff.       There was snow on the deck when I got up this morning.  Down to 31 tonight, but up to 56 tomorrow, with down to 40 tomorrow night.  Hope that is the last of the frost, but we can get frost till the 10 of June, but rare.  In the 60s next week, which is average. Later, Marc On Sunday, May 15, 2016 5:42 PM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: http://www.glasgowhistory.co.uk/Other%20Sections/100%20Churches/Barony.htm More on Glasgow and its spiritual life. It fairly ‘broke my heart’ when such as the districts of Springburn and Townhead were gutted, to  make way for the M8 roadway.  This meant that the population in both districts virtually disappeared off the face of the earth. Most of the tenements were demolished as was Townhead school I attended in the Rottenrow right behind the beautiful red sandstone Barony church, where I was also christened and attended Sunday School. The Barony is no longer a parish church as the population has done a disappearing trick.  It was so sad to see that it had been ‘gutted’ of its pews, to be replaced by modern chairs.  At least most of the rest of the interior appeared not to have been tampered with. :::  The last service to be held in the Barony Ramshorn was on 6th October, 1985 and thereafter the historic charge was terminated.  The remaining parishioners were left to choose which church to attend thereafter with some moving to the St. George's Tron, some to Dennistoun Blackfriars  and others back to the Cathedral from which they had originated so long ago. Some relics of the Barony, including the Communion Table, were taken to the Cathedral and a small chapel established in the crypt, the Barony Chapel - very much a return home. The Castle Street buildings were acquired by Strathclyde University in 1986. It was restored to its former glory by 1989 and is now utilised as a ceremonial hall, known as the Barony Hall.  ::: On this, the demographics of Strathclyde seemed not to reflect a homogeneous population as there seemed to be many from other countries lined up to enter the (former) church for the baccalaureate service.  To put a ‘face on it’ many of the Scottish graduates were ‘done up’ in the kilt. Time and change again. Maisie   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.glasgowhistory.co.uk/Other%20Sections/100%20Churches/Barony.htm More on Glasgow and its spiritual life. It fairly ‘broke my heart’ when such as the districts of Springburn and Townhead were gutted, to make way for the M8 roadway. This meant that the population in both districts virtually disappeared off the face of the earth. Most of the tenements were demolished as was Townhead school I attended in the Rottenrow right behind the beautiful red sandstone Barony church, where I was also christened and attended Sunday School. The Barony is no longer a parish church as the population has done a disappearing trick. It was so sad to see that it had been ‘gutted’ of its pews, to be replaced by modern chairs. At least most of the rest of the interior appeared not to have been tampered with. ::: The last service to be held in the Barony Ramshorn was on 6th October, 1985 and thereafter the historic charge was terminated. The remaining parishioners were left to choose which church to attend thereafter with some moving to the St. George's Tron, some to Dennistoun Blackfriars and others back to the Cathedral from which they had originated so long ago. Some relics of the Barony, including the Communion Table, were taken to the Cathedral and a small chapel established in the crypt, the Barony Chapel - very much a return home. The Castle Street buildings were acquired by Strathclyde University in 1986. It was restored to its former glory by 1989 and is now utilised as a ceremonial hall, known as the Barony Hall. ::: On this, the demographics of Strathclyde seemed not to reflect a homogeneous population as there seemed to be many from other countries lined up to enter the (former) church for the baccalaureate service. To put a ‘face on it’ many of the Scottish graduates were ‘done up’ in the kilt. Time and change again. Maisie

Some bits and dabs about Lanarkshire, which includes the Clydesdale Bank issuing the very first polymer (plastic) bank note in the U.K.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Arrol http://rampantscotland.com/SCM/forth_bridge.htm http://www.engineeringhalloffame.org/profile-arrol.html Maisie

Thanks Carole! Very helpful! Carolyn > On May 6, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Carole Kenney via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > A fascinating read, depending on your area of interest, of course. > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015011274175;view=1up;seq=763 > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dean, Whether these families are related I have no idea, they are found on 2 separate family lines in my family. My earliest LINDSEY / LINDSAY is found in Cambuslang. Agnes mar. c1793 to Francis GIB / GIBB, she died Jun 1850 and was buried Jun 1850 in the Churchyard Cambuslang. --------- My next family of LINDSAY was John LINDSAY occ. Coalminer b c1800 ??, d c1826 mar. 1820 Rutherglen to Rebecca WILSON b 1800 Rutherglen d 1883 Rutherglen. Children found: Archibald c1827 mar. 1845 Rutherglen to Elisabeth KIRKWOOD George b 1823 Rutherglen ?? John Dickison b 1825 mar. 1855 Rutherglen to Catherine McFARLANE Children on 1861 census were Agnes and Archibald. The 1851 census gives both of the following in Dalry, Ayrshire Archibald Lindsay Lodger 23 Male Ironstone Miner Rutherglen, Lanark John Lindsay Lodger 26 Male Ironstone Miner Rutherglen, Lanark Rebecca is enumerated as MUIR in the 1841 census. No evidence of marriage found. In 1851 she is enumerated as her maiden surname of WILSON then marries Nov 1851 in Airdrie to Alexander COOK. Does any of this info look familiar? Regards Jenny NSW Aus ----Original Message----- From: scapolo.dean via Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 5:31 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Lindsay 1891 Hi, The Lindsay family you posted the 1891 census of, is one of my lot. John Lindsay, Father B. 1858, Cambusnethan Agnes [Calder Merrilees], Mother B. 1862, Leith children (Born in Hamilton) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi, The Lindsay family you posted the 1891 census of, is one of my lot. John Lindsay, Father B. 1858, Cambusnethan Agnes [Calder Merrilees], Mother B. 1862, Leith children (Born in Hamilton) Andrew 1880 Robert 1882 Katherine 1885 John 1887 Agnes 1889 Mary Ann 1891 Janet 1893 I have their full census records to 1901. Andrew followed the rest of the larger Lindsay family into coal mining, as did his two eldest sons, John probably did, but like I said, I have no information on him after 1901. John is the 3rd son of Andrew Lindsay, second youngest son of George Lindsay and Janet Gold. For whom we have a large number of descendants, of 11/12 children who appear to have survived, we have marriages for 10 of them, including all the boys 9/12 (8 marriages, one died young) John's eldest brother, George, went to Illinois, USA, where he died in 1929. Of John's siblings - 9 altogether. We have deaths for 4 of them, and a contact on one of the women's lines of that particular family. Dean Scapolo. LINDSAY, LAMBIE, BOYD, HADDOW. Dean Scapolo Newlands, Wellington, New Zealand NZ Chart Consultant (Informal)  

A fascinating read, depending on your area of interest, of course. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015011274175;view=1up;seq=763

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Hi ?? Alongside what others have said ie it will not be on Ancestry or Findmypast and is available on scotlandspeople (for online) only But I would just point out that the 1911 census in Scotland is not as it is in England & Wales, ie in Scotland its transcribed as in earlier census Whereas in Eng/Wales the schedules are in the hand of the householder or whoever they coerced into doing it Just in case that was a factor you were considering Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05/05/2016 23:29, lafinken via wrote: > So the 1911 census census of Scotland is not on ancestry.com yet? Is there a release date coming soon by any chance? > > Thanks

I am also interested in MOFFATT and BROWN, Moffitts who went to Ireland from Moffat in Scotland, cheers Marg -----Original Message----- From: nautakat via Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11 AM To: 'lafinken' ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hamilton Whereabouts in Lanarkshire? -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lafinken via Sent: Friday, 6 May 2016 8:51 AM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Hamilton I am trying to trace Hamilton's born in Lanarkshire. The parents died in 1861 and 1871 time frame. There is one more child called John Hamilton born abt 1863, yes after the passing of this father but has the same name. The other names to track for relationships and where the children lived; MACKEY, MOFFAT, BROWN, RENWICK, and of course his mother's maiden name LINDSAY children of James Hamilton and Elizabeth Lindsay Hamilton 1861 Census of Lanarkshire Name: Elizabeth Hamilton Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Hamilton Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Registration number: 628 Registration district: Cambusnethan Civil parish: Cambusnethan County: Lanarkshire Address: Morningside Village ED: 15 Household schedule number: 61 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1861_93 Household Members: Name Age James Hamilton 45 Elizabeth Hamilton 39 Joseph Hamilton 7 1853 Robert Hamilton 5 1855 James Hamilton 3 1857 William Hamilton 5 Mo 1860 Unfortunately, we are unable to display the accompanying images of this census at present, despite extensive negotiation with the General Register Office for Scotland. Permission from them has not, as yet, been forthcoming. For this reason, and to enable you to continue with your family history research, Ancestry has heavily transcribed the Scottish Census records to ensure you have access to all key areas of information contained within this collection. up arrow Source Citation: Parish: Cambusnethan; ED: 15; Page: 13; Line: 13; Roll: CSSCT1861_93. Source Information: ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Whereabouts in Lanarkshire? -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lafinken via Sent: Friday, 6 May 2016 8:51 AM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Hamilton I am trying to trace Hamilton's born in Lanarkshire. The parents died in 1861 and 1871 time frame. There is one more child called John Hamilton born abt 1863, yes after the passing of this father but has the same name. The other names to track for relationships and where the children lived; MACKEY, MOFFAT, BROWN, RENWICK, and of course his mother's maiden name LINDSAY children of James Hamilton and Elizabeth Lindsay Hamilton 1861 Census of Lanarkshire Name: Elizabeth Hamilton Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Hamilton Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Registration number: 628 Registration district: Cambusnethan Civil parish: Cambusnethan County: Lanarkshire Address: Morningside Village ED: 15 Household schedule number: 61 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1861_93 Household Members: Name Age James Hamilton 45 Elizabeth Hamilton 39 Joseph Hamilton 7 1853 Robert Hamilton 5 1855 James Hamilton 3 1857 William Hamilton 5 Mo 1860 Unfortunately, we are unable to display the accompanying images of this census at present, despite extensive negotiation with the General Register Office for Scotland. Permission from them has not, as yet, been forthcoming. For this reason, and to enable you to continue with your family history research, Ancestry has heavily transcribed the Scottish Census records to ensure you have access to all key areas of information contained within this collection. up arrow Source Citation: Parish: Cambusnethan; ED: 15; Page: 13; Line: 13; Roll: CSSCT1861_93. Source Information: ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, and no. Am I correct in inferring that you are using the partial transcriptions on ancestry of earlier censuses as authoritative sources of genalogical information? If so, you need to be aware that these transcriptions are notorious for their inaccuracies. They are an invaluable aid to finding families in the various censuses, but having found people in a transcription is it absolutely essential to plan to look at the original on the Scotland's People web site to make sure you do have the correct information. I have found some seriously weird transcriptions on ancestry.com - for example a family named Ballantyne transcribed as Lezzenbyre! Also a grain merchant aged 3 - you would have thought that even the dimmest of transcribers would have realised that could not be correct and at least marked it with a question mark. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "lafinken via" <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 11:29 PM Subject: [Lanark] 1911 census > So the 1911 census census of Scotland is not on ancestry.com > yet? Is there a release date coming soon by any chance? > > Thanks > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the > earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as > LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or > click on the following link to the list information page > online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4565/12171 - Release > Date: 05/05/16 >

Why don't you give it a try yourself? Almost all the surviving original records can be viewed at Scotland's People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, which is the genealogy web site of the National Records of Scotland (NRS) which was formed by the amalgamation of the National Archives of Scotland (NAS) and General Register Office for Scotland (GROS). It's pay-per-view, but it costs less than a cup of coffee to view and download an original certificate or census page. (The corollary of this is that asking someone else to look up a certificate for you is effectively asking them to spend their own money on your behalf. Many people are happy to do this, but you need to be aware what you are asking for!) Married women don't lose their maiden names in Scotland, which is why, for instance, you usually find the mother's maiden surname in the pre-1855 baptism registers. In legal documents a married woman's name is always shown as "xxx yyy or zzz" wher xxx is her given name(s), yyy her maiden surname and zzz is her husband's surname. Thus in Scotland, the deaths of married women are listed under both their maiden surname and their husband's surname. It should not be difficult to find the death of Elizabeth Lindsay **OR** Hamilton. (Don't try looking for "Elizabeth Lindsay Hamilton". The usage xxx yyy zzz is an American usage and does not occur in Scotland." I see from the 'Community indexed' International Genealogical Index at www.familysearch.org that James Hamilton and Mary Lindsay had three children after the start of civil registration: Mary, born 5 February 1855 in Hamilton Archibald, born 13 July 1857 in Avondale John, born 6 February 1860 in Avondale The 'Community contributed' index also lists Marion, born 6 May 1850 in Fairhall and James, born 11 September 1852 in Hamilton. I never trust 100% anything I find in the 'Community contributed' IGI, but it can be a useful pointer to finding reliable information. Go for the birth certificate of Mary, born 1855. In 1855, the first year of civil registration, certificates contained a huge amount of information that was not collected in later years. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindsey Finken via" <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: "Jo Ann Croft" <jecroft290@gmail.com>; <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hamilton > Do you want to give his wife a try? Elizabeth Lindsay > Hamilton born abt 1824 > Mother Mary Crawford Father John Lindsay > > Thank you for James . > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 5, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Jo Ann Croft via > <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> GROS is General Register Office of Scotland. The numbers >> used with the >> year give the registration district/parish and number of the >> death. >> You can search on scotlandspeople.gov.uk for James Hamilton >> using the 1861 >> death year and located in Cambusnethan, Lanark. There is >> only the one for >> that year. >> >> Jo-Ann Croft >> >> >> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Lindsey Finken >> <lafinken@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> What is gros with he numbers after it? >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the >> earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as >> LANARK@Rootsweb.com. >> >> You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com >> or click on the following link to the list information page >> online: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the > earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as > LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or > click on the following link to the list information page > online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4565/12171 - Release > Date: 05/05/16 >

Dean We have spoken before in our past Lindsay hunts. Do you know who your John Lindsay's father might be? I think we don't match on the International DNA surname project either if memory serves me. Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: scapolo.dean via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: lanark <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, May 6, 2016 3:32 am Subject: Re: [Lanark] Lindsay 1891 Hi, The Lindsay family you posted the 1891 census of, is one of my lot. John Lindsay, Father B. 1858, Cambusnethan Agnes [Calder Merrilees], Mother B. 1862, Leith children (Born in Hamilton) Andrew 1880 Robert 1882 Katherine 1885 John 1887 Agnes 1889 Mary Ann 1891 Janet 1893 I have their full census records to 1901. Andrew followed the rest of the larger Lindsay family into coal mining, as did his two eldest sons, John probably did, but like I said, I have no information on him after 1901. John is the 3rd son of Andrew Lindsay, second youngest son of George Lindsay and Janet Gold. For whom we have a large number of descendants, of 11/12 children who appear to have survived, we have marriages for 10 of them, including all the boys 9/12 (8 marriages, one died young) John's eldest brother, George, went to Illinois, USA, where he died in 1929. Of John's siblings - 9 altogether. We have deaths for 4 of them, and a contact on one of the women's lines of that particular family. Dean Scapolo. LINDSAY, LAMBIE, BOYD, HADDOW. Dean Scapolo Newlands, Wellington, New Zealand NZ Chart Consultant (Informal) ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you want to give his wife a try? Elizabeth Lindsay Hamilton born abt 1824 Mother Mary Crawford Father John Lindsay Thank you for James . Sent from my iPad On May 5, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Jo Ann Croft via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > GROS is General Register Office of Scotland. The numbers used with the > year give the registration district/parish and number of the death. > You can search on scotlandspeople.gov.uk for James Hamilton using the 1861 > death year and located in Cambusnethan, Lanark. There is only the one for > that year. > > Jo-Ann Croft > > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Lindsey Finken <lafinken@aol.com> wrote: > >> What is gros with he numbers after it? > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

GROS is General Register Office of Scotland. The numbers used with the year give the registration district/parish and number of the death. You can search on scotlandspeople.gov.uk for James Hamilton using the 1861 death year and located in Cambusnethan, Lanark. There is only the one for that year. Jo-Ann Croft On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Lindsey Finken <lafinken@aol.com> wrote: > What is gros with he numbers after it? > >