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    07/17/2016 04:08:24
    1. Re: [Lanark] William Lisle (lizle)
    2. Nivard Ovington via
    3. Only a small addition, but English marriage certificates only usually record the fathers names and their occupations, mothers are rarely found, and usually only when the person was illegitimate If the informant gave the father as deceased, that might be all that is recorded but usually in place of the occupation Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/07/2016 18:14, John Humphrey via wrote: > Hello Bill, > > In case you didn't trace it before, William Lisle married Mary Phillips > in Sunderland on 11th February 1844. It's vol 24 p 219 of the GRO index > - the actual document would probably mention his parents but not his > place of birth. > > In the 1851 census, the town/birthplace entry is certainly hard to read > and 'Scotland' was added on later. But as Anne just pointed out, his > entry in the 1861 Sunderland entry clearly states 'Northumberland, > Lowick'. The 1851 entry reads more like Lewik or Lenrik than Lowick. > But I see from googlemaps that the village of Lowick in Northumberland > is less than 10 miles from the Scottish border, which might explain the > confusion. > > Good luck, > John

    07/16/2016 12:23:41
    1. Re: [Lanark] subscribe
    2. ruth.enns via
    3. Welcome to a GREAT LIST! Ruth -----Original Message----- From: elaine jefferson via Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 5:08 PM To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] subscribe subscribe ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/16/2016 11:32:18
    1. [Lanark] William Lisle (lizle)
    2. W Lisle via
    3. I would like someone to help translate an entry in the 1851 census for sunderland county Durham the entry is for William Lizle (Lisle) bread baker. Born scotland (LERWICK, LOWICK, or LANARK) I have had local (New Zealand) experts ? look at the entry and these are the posibilities Thanks in advance for any help Bill Lisle (Nelson New Zealand) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

    07/16/2016 11:30:44
    1. Re: [Lanark] William Lisle (lizle)
    2. Ella K. Ross via
    3. > On 16 Jul 2016, at 15:30, W Lisle via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I would like someone to help translate an entry in the 1851 census for > sunderland county Durham > the entry is for William Lizle (Lisle) bread baker. Born scotland > (LERWICK, LOWICK, or LANARK) > I have had local (New Zealand) experts ? look at the entry and these are > the posibilities > Thanks in advance for any help > > Bill Lisle (Nelson New Zealand) > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/16/2016 10:53:22
    1. Re: [Lanark] William Lisle (lizle)
    2. John Humphrey via
    3. Hello Bill, In case you didn't trace it before, William Lisle married Mary Phillips in Sunderland on 11th February 1844. It's vol 24 p 219 of the GRO index - the actual document would probably mention his parents but not his place of birth. In the 1851 census, the town/birthplace entry is certainly hard to read and 'Scotland' was added on later. But as Anne just pointed out, his entry in the 1861 Sunderland entry clearly states 'Northumberland, Lowick'. The 1851 entry reads more like Lewik or Lenrik than Lowick. But I see from googlemaps that the village of Lowick in Northumberland is less than 10 miles from the Scottish border, which might explain the confusion. Good luck, John On 7/16/2016 1:30 AM, W Lisle via wrote: > I would like someone to help translate an entry in the 1851 census for > sunderland county Durham > the entry is for William Lizle (Lisle) bread baker. Born scotland > (LERWICK, LOWICK, or LANARK) > I have had local (New Zealand) experts ? look at the entry and these are > the posibilities > Thanks in advance for any help > > Bill Lisle (Nelson New Zealand) > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

    07/16/2016 07:14:36
    1. Re: [Lanark] William Lisle (lizle)
    2. Anne Burgess via
    3. I looked at the original. It is very hard to be certain but I think I prefer Lerwick to Lowick to Lanark. However 1841, Sunderland: William Lisle, apprentice baker, 18, not born in Durham 1851, Sunderland: William Lizle, bread baker, 27, born L....k, Scotland 1861, Sunderland: William Lisle, baker journeyman, 37, born NBL, Lowick 1881, Sunderland: William Lisle, baker, 56, born DUR, Sunderland Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "W Lisle via" <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:30 AM Subject: [Lanark] William Lisle (lizle) >I would like someone to help translate an entry in the 1851 >census for > sunderland county Durham > the entry is for William Lizle (Lisle) bread baker. Born > scotland > (LERWICK, LOWICK, or LANARK) > I have had local (New Zealand) experts ? look at the entry and > these are > the posibilities > Thanks in advance for any help > > Bill Lisle (Nelson New Zealand) > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus > software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the > earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as > LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or > click on the following link to the list information page > online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6201 / Virus Database: 4627/12621 - Release > Date: 07/15/16 >

    07/16/2016 03:23:09
    1. Re: [Lanark] William Lisle (lizle)
    2. Irene Macleod via
    3. I found it ...eventually! Ancestry has transcribed it as Lagle. the enumerator seems to have written Lenrik....but the i is questionable. Looking at later entries, he's spelled Lancashire as Lankisher so spelling is not his strong point. Gut feeling ...Lenrik sounds more like Lanark than Lerwick. Don't think Lowick  ...it really doesn't look like an o. HOWEVER I have just looked for him in 1861 and up he pops ..spelled Lisle aged 37 still in Sunderland and still a baker but his birthplace is given as Lowick Northumberland. Next in 1871 it's Lerwick Northumberland. 1891 he's born in Sunderland! Death Dec quarter 1882. So it's LOWICK in Northumberland...a tiny place a few miles south of Berwick on Tweed Irene From: W Lisle via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2016, 6:30 Subject: [Lanark] William Lisle (lizle) I would like someone to help translate an entry in the 1851 census for sunderland county Durham the entry is for William Lizle (Lisle) bread baker. Born scotland (LERWICK, LOWICK, or LANARK) I have had local (New Zealand) experts ? look at the entry and these are the posibilities Thanks in advance for any help Bill Lisle (Nelson New Zealand) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/16/2016 02:02:08
    1. Re: [Lanark] William Lisle (lizle)
    2. Edward Paxton via
    3. Happy to have a look. I have Lisle's in my tree from 1700s in Northumberland. Edward R Paxton Sent from my iPhone > On 16 Jul 2016, at 06:30, W Lisle via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I would like someone to help translate an entry in the 1851 census for > sunderland county Durham > the entry is for William Lizle (Lisle) bread baker. Born scotland > (LERWICK, LOWICK, or LANARK) > I have had local (New Zealand) experts ? look at the entry and these are > the posibilities > Thanks in advance for any help > > Bill Lisle (Nelson New Zealand) > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/16/2016 01:09:13
    1. Re: [Lanark] Glasgow Royal Infirmary
    2. Ella K. Ross via
    3. Hi Ailsa I didn't send a link but Googled "Glasgow University Archive Services". The following is part of the information on the first page. They have records of patient care so you may get lucky. About the NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde Archives The holdings of the NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde Archives, one of the largest health authority archives in the United Kingdom, consist principally of the archives of the hospitals in the Glasgow area and in Paisley. These date back to the late eighteenth century when Glasgow Royal Infirmary was established. The archive also holds the prime records of the defunct Western Regional Health Board and of the Greater Glasgow Health Board. The archives include the minutes of governing bodies, architects’ drawings of hospital buildings, photographs, accounts, correspondence, reports and records of patient care. Medical advances documented include antiseptic surgery (Lister), aseptic surgery (Macewen), caesarean delivery (Cameron), ultrasound (Donald) and the use of X-rays (MacIntyre). Developments in psychiatric care (Parry-Jones), physiotherapy (T M Anderson) and nursing (Strong) are also extensively covered. Regards Ella Ross > On 5 Jul 2016, at 22:20, Ailsa Corlett via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi, many have given me great ideas regarding my previous query about > Breaking down my Brick Wall, and opened up lots of avenues to explore, so I > thank you all for that. > > > > What I would like to know now is that: > > 1. I know Alexander Forrest died in the Glasgow Royal Infirmary in Aug 1846 > (as per newspaper article quoted previously). > > > > 2. anyone know where they would most likely put his body for burial - > remember he was a coal miner, poor, from Holytown - so NO chance of family > paying for a burial or headstone - So were people like this buried in the > hospital grounds or the closest burial churchyard which I can find from the > maps which is Barony ? (if in a pauper grave - most likely- would there be > record of this burial ??????) > > > > 3. Anyone had a researcher search the hospital records c 1840's time frame > that you could recommend ? ( I know records exist according to google > searches but I need a researcher to visit the archives, and be able to take > funds from overseas ) > > > > 4. I suspect that the wife Helen Forrest nee Yeardley (various spellings - > including Airdly) would need to apply for parish relief after her husband > death. I know they lived in the houses supplied by the Coal Mine - hence she > would not be able to stay there any longer once husband is dead. So who > would she turn to ?, I know her children were split up and son was looked > after by family members, but according to 1851 Census where she had moved to > Whitburn in West Lothian she had the two girls with her. > > I am trying to find what happened to her between husband death in 1846 when > newspaper says she was pregnant again and the 1851 census. what happened to > baby that was due ???? > > > > 5. Anyone had luck at accessing Kirk Session records (which I think need to > be looked at) outside of Scotland, and if not how did you get access to > these records to search the poor laws or Kirk sessions to see if poor relief > was given to a person ? Did you employ a researcher and if so who was the > best (email me off list regarding this if need be) > > > > I did a search on google and found a wonderful archive of the Statistical > Account of the Royal Infirmary of Glasgow for 1846 - Bingo!! wonderful > information if you go looking, and gives numbers etc of amount of people who > died that year, types of diseases, amputations etc and if the person > survived or dismissed - NO Names mentioned, just statistics but was good to > view. > > Break down of 24 Coal pit Accidents - 4 Males died (so my Alexander Forrest > is 1 of 4 for that year that died) > > In 1845 the GRI had the most beds available 450, but was also the cheapest > for medical students - so a great teaching hospital > > In Aug 1846, 148 Males were admitted and 16 of those died. > > > > Thanks in advantage to ideas again > > > > Regards > > Ailsa > > > > Ailsa Corlett > > ailsa@st.net.au > > http://home.st.net.au/~ailsa > > alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: > > ailsacorlett@gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/05/2016 05:39:18
    1. [Lanark] Glasgow Royal Infirmary
    2. Ailsa Corlett via
    3. Hi, many have given me great ideas regarding my previous query about Breaking down my Brick Wall, and opened up lots of avenues to explore, so I thank you all for that. What I would like to know now is that: 1. I know Alexander Forrest died in the Glasgow Royal Infirmary in Aug 1846 (as per newspaper article quoted previously). 2. anyone know where they would most likely put his body for burial - remember he was a coal miner, poor, from Holytown - so NO chance of family paying for a burial or headstone - So were people like this buried in the hospital grounds or the closest burial churchyard which I can find from the maps which is Barony ? (if in a pauper grave - most likely- would there be record of this burial ??????) 3. Anyone had a researcher search the hospital records c 1840's time frame that you could recommend ? ( I know records exist according to google searches but I need a researcher to visit the archives, and be able to take funds from overseas ) 4. I suspect that the wife Helen Forrest nee Yeardley (various spellings - including Airdly) would need to apply for parish relief after her husband death. I know they lived in the houses supplied by the Coal Mine - hence she would not be able to stay there any longer once husband is dead. So who would she turn to ?, I know her children were split up and son was looked after by family members, but according to 1851 Census where she had moved to Whitburn in West Lothian she had the two girls with her. I am trying to find what happened to her between husband death in 1846 when newspaper says she was pregnant again and the 1851 census. what happened to baby that was due ???? 5. Anyone had luck at accessing Kirk Session records (which I think need to be looked at) outside of Scotland, and if not how did you get access to these records to search the poor laws or Kirk sessions to see if poor relief was given to a person ? Did you employ a researcher and if so who was the best (email me off list regarding this if need be) I did a search on google and found a wonderful archive of the Statistical Account of the Royal Infirmary of Glasgow for 1846 - Bingo!! wonderful information if you go looking, and gives numbers etc of amount of people who died that year, types of diseases, amputations etc and if the person survived or dismissed - NO Names mentioned, just statistics but was good to view. Break down of 24 Coal pit Accidents - 4 Males died (so my Alexander Forrest is 1 of 4 for that year that died) In 1845 the GRI had the most beds available 450, but was also the cheapest for medical students - so a great teaching hospital In Aug 1846, 148 Males were admitted and 16 of those died. Thanks in advantage to ideas again Regards Ailsa Ailsa Corlett ailsa@st.net.au http://home.st.net.au/~ailsa alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: ailsacorlett@gmail.com

    07/05/2016 04:20:34
    1. Re: [Lanark] burials in Glasgow
    2. K H via
    3. Thanks for responding. I’ve printed out the statutory birth and death register pages for all of the family. All of the children who died survived for a period of time. One baby lived for only 10 minutes but then another lived for 3 hours. I supposed after it happens a few times the family might not be able to afford a burial each time. I wondered about the child being baptized by the family. I supposed that’s what was done. Even if the cemetery buried the babies with whoever was being buried I’m surprised they didn’t at least make a note of where they put them. They did have names. How sad. Thanks again. Kathy > On Jul 5, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Nivard Ovington via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Kathy > > Re burials of infants, I can't say specifically for your particular > church, but have found it common practice that infants were buried with > another person being buried around the time, more often with no family > connection and they often went unrecorded > > If the childs birth was registered, it means they drew breath, but may > not have survived for long, not long enough for a church baptism, but > anyone could baptise a child, they did not have to be clergy, if that > child then died the private baptism would often go unrecorded, if the > child survived there may be an entry when the child was received into > the church, the recording of these can be hit and miss, ie the first > private part isn't mentioned, just the entry as though a conventional > baptism, but the way clergy or their clerk recorded events varies quite > a bit > > Have you seen the actual burial register, as there may be a note in the > margin > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

    07/05/2016 11:50:27
    1. Re: [Lanark] burials in Glasgow
    2. Nivard Ovington via
    3. Hi Kathy Re burials of infants, I can't say specifically for your particular church, but have found it common practice that infants were buried with another person being buried around the time, more often with no family connection and they often went unrecorded If the childs birth was registered, it means they drew breath, but may not have survived for long, not long enough for a church baptism, but anyone could baptise a child, they did not have to be clergy, if that child then died the private baptism would often go unrecorded, if the child survived there may be an entry when the child was received into the church, the recording of these can be hit and miss, ie the first private part isn't mentioned, just the entry as though a conventional baptism, but the way clergy or their clerk recorded events varies quite a bit Have you seen the actual burial register, as there may be a note in the margin Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05/07/2016 00:33, K H via wrote: > Several siblings in my Roman Catholic family settled in Lanarkshire > in the late 1800’s, raised their families there and are buried there > in St. Kentigern's. I’ve found lots of information on most of the > people but for the babies who were born prematurely and died (there > were several) all I find are the statutory birth & death register > entries showing the children’s names, dates of birth and death and > parents full names. There are no baptisms and no listings with the > families of the children having been buried with other family > members. Can anyone enlighten me as to what would have been done with > their bodies? Wouldn’t they have been baptized? > > Thanks! > > Kathy

    07/05/2016 11:16:42
    1. Re: [Lanark] Yeardly et al
    2. Ailsa Corlett via
    3. Hi Sheena I have replied to you off list as well, enjoy your trip away and many thanks for all the information you have provided and look forward to talking to you when you get back. kind regards Ailsa Ailsa Corlett ailsa@st.net.au http://home.st.net.au/~ailsa alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: ailsacorlett@gmail.com >-----Original Message----- >On Behalf Of Sheena Ireland via >Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 8:59 AM > >Hi Ailsa, > >I recognise your names as I did some research on them for a friend a >while ago. Clearly you are related but I cannot at the moment lay hands >on most of my material on the family & am about to go away for a few >days, so need to do packing, not genealogy info hunting! Sorry about >that! >I don't think I can add much to your sum of knowledge as I've had a >quick look at your website but I will send a couple of certificates to >your e-mail address in the hope that they might help. > >One wildcard that Scotland's People will not tell you in their handy >hints (I cynically believe it's too lucrative as it is, because I have >alerted them to it on more than one occasion) is when searching for Mc >or Mac to leave out the c as there was a time when the fashion was for >M' as in e.g. >M'Intosh. > >Best wishes, >Sheena Ireland > >-----Original Message----- >Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 20:56:26 +1000 >From: "Ailsa Corlett" <ailsa@st.net.au> >Subject: [Lanark] Ideas to help break down the brick wall required > please > >Helen Airdly/Yeardly/ Early many various spellings (as you will see with >the records I have located) was born 14 Aug 1821 and Baptised 16 Sept >1821, Carmichael Lanarkshire to parents David Yeardly and Anne Weir - I >have the proof from Scotlandpeople, and details from family bible handed >down. > >Helen Yeardly married Alexander Forrest 12 July 1840, Carluke, >Lanarkshire - Have marriage from Scotlandspeople >

    07/05/2016 07:49:04
    1. Re: [Lanark] Yeardly et al
    2. Sheena Ireland via
    3. Hi Ailsa, I recognise your names as I did some research on them for a friend a while ago. Clearly you are related but I cannot at the moment lay hands on most of my material on the family & am about to go away for a few days, so need to do packing, not genealogy info hunting! Sorry about that! I don't think I can add much to your sum of knowledge as I've had a quick look at your website but I will send a couple of certificates to your e-mail address in the hope that they might help. One wildcard that Scotland's People will not tell you in their handy hints (I cynically believe it's too lucrative as it is, because I have alerted them to it on more than one occasion) is when searching for Mc or Mac to leave out the c as there was a time when the fashion was for M' as in e.g. M'Intosh. Best wishes, Sheena Ireland -----Original Message----- Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 20:56:26 +1000 From: "Ailsa Corlett" <ailsa@st.net.au> Subject: [Lanark] Ideas to help break down the brick wall required please Helen Airdly/Yeardly/ Early many various spellings (as you will see with the records I have located) was born 14 Aug 1821 and Baptised 16 Sept 1821, Carmichael Lanarkshire to parents David Yeardly and Anne Weir - I have the proof from Scotlandpeople, and details from family bible handed down. Helen Yeardly married Alexander Forrest 12 July 1840, Carluke, Lanarkshire - Have marriage from Scotlandspeople

    07/04/2016 05:59:29
    1. Re: [Lanark] brick wall Monumental Inscriptions
    2. Jennifer Myers via
    3. Hi All, If you go to... http://www.scottish-monumental-inscriptions.com there is a menu of Shires/Counties showing the number of cemeteries / kirkyards / burial grounds that have been transcribed to CD for purchase. The added bonus is that there is an Index freely available to view for each CD. Never know who you might find.... Regards Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Judy Wardlaw via Ruth You would have to belong to the Society and it is not a lending Library. However if you Google it you may be able to find where you can find the book or someone else may know where it can be found in Canada. The transcriptions are not online as far as I know. Judy ruth.enns@shaw.ca sent What is the email address of your Library to search for these M.I.s please? Ruth in Canada --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

    07/04/2016 05:16:53
    1. [Lanark] burials in Glasgow
    2. K H via
    3. Several siblings in my Roman Catholic family settled in Lanarkshire in the late 1800’s, raised their families there and are buried there in St. Kentigern's. I’ve found lots of information on most of the people but for the babies who were born prematurely and died (there were several) all I find are the statutory birth & death register entries showing the children’s names, dates of birth and death and parents full names. There are no baptisms and no listings with the families of the children having been buried with other family members. Can anyone enlighten me as to what would have been done with their bodies? Wouldn’t they have been baptized? Thanks! Kathy

    07/04/2016 01:33:34
    1. Re: [Lanark] Ideas to help break down the brick wall required please
    2. Judy Wardlaw via
    3. Ruth You would have to belong to the Society and it is not a lending Library. However if you Google it you may be able to find where you can find the book or someone else may know where it can be found in Canada. The transcriptions are not online as far as I know. Judy ruth.enns@shaw.ca sent What is the email address of your Library to search for these M.I.s please? Ruth in Canada Alison Have you access to Sheila M Scott, Monumental Inscriptions (pre 1855) Upper ward of Lanarkshire 1977. We have this in our library, at GSV (Genealogical Library of Victoria). I am sure that it is widely available. They list many Lanarkshire graveyard inscriptions both before and AFTER 1855.

    07/04/2016 01:14:04
    1. Re: [Lanark] Ideas to help break down the brick wall required please
    2. Judy Wardlaw via
    3. Alison Have you access to Sheila M Scott, Monumental Inscriptions (pre 1855) Upper ward of Lanarkshire 1977. We have this in our library, at GSV (Genealogical Library of Victoria). I am sure that it is widely available. They list many Lanarkshire graveyard inscriptions both before and AFTER 1855. You may find information of deaths and family connection in this. I have found it extremely helpful with my family back in Carmichael, Covington, Biggar and many, many other graveyards. Just beware that occasionally there are some errors as memorials are often added some time after death and in other cases I have found that the inscription has been misinterpreted when transcribed because of indecipherable letters. I have proved this when visiting some of these graveyards. Judy in Melbourne, Australia Alison wrote ... 1. I can find no burial entry in Lanark or West Lothian for any FORREST/ FOREST and various other spellings etc between 1846 and 1854 on Scotlandspeople that would fit for Alexander or Helen/Ellen (various spellings for both). I have also done a full records search and again nothing for any burial of them either. I know they most likely were poor, hence most likely no headstone, but still thought a burial somewhere might be recorded,,,,,.

    07/04/2016 10:55:03
    1. Re: [Lanark] Ideas to help break down the brick wall required please
    2. Ailsa Corlett via
    3. Hi Nivard and the List Thank you for the ideas to look on the FAQ's of Scotlandspeople - sometimes tend to forget that not everything was ever recorded. Thanks also for noticing about John Yeardly, I am also in the process of trying to find out details on this John, who may be Helen's brother. thanks also for the offer of the newspaper - but yes I have been able to get a copy from Findmypast which is great to read. I do appreciate the help and the look ups you have done, at least two sets of eyes having a look means I have not overlooked something. Have had a personal email from someone, about the daughter Elizabeth Forrest, so off now to get that marriage certificate and follow her up. Again thanks to this list for you help, I find anything can help and jog your memory to look and try other spots and avenues. kind regards Ailsa Ailsa Corlett ailsa@st.net.au http://home.st.net.au/~ailsa alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: ailsacorlett@gmail.com >-----Original Message----- >From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via >Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2016 11:00 PM >To: lanark@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Lanark] Ideas to help break down the brick wall required >please > >Hi Ailsa > >Your main problem is probably due to the intermittent nature of >deaths/burials recording in Scotland in particular pre 1855 > >If you google OPR Deaths & Burials it should take you to the article in >the FAQs on Scotlandspeople > >I checked the newspapers in case there might be any more reported but >only found the article you stated, if you want a copy of the article let >me know but as you have findmypast you should find it anyway > >See also the article on scotlandspeople regarding death registrations >(ie under civil registration 1855 on), from 1855 and the first few >years, a death registration may contain much more than the later >registrations, including the place of burial, so if you find one death >in the 1855 to 1860 range it may lead you to the place of burial of >others > >Did you notice the John YEARDLY that married a week after your Helen >same place, perhaps worth tracking him if you haven't already done so > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >On 03/07/2016 11:56, Ailsa Corlett via wrote: >> Hi, hoping this list can give me a few other ideas to search on. I >> will list the details I do have and see what everyone can come up with >> to help with ideas and searches. >> I belong to full Ancestry and Full Findmypast, plus I use Familysearch >> and another web sites I can to help with my research. Use >> Scotlandspeople all the time and aware of using wildcards and name >variants. >> I live in Brisbane Australia, so not possible even in the future for >> me to visit Scotland or other overseas countries. > >------------------------------- > >WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier >message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > >You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on >the following link to the list information page online: >http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK- >request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message

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