very well said Dora Elizabeth in Ont Canada ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Dora Smith via <lanark@rootsweb.com> Date: July 31, 2016 at 9:31 AM This reply might have been intended to be positive, and might have thought a very short statement would get that across, but I really don't like the snippy tone. It didn't come across that the post was meant to be political, and the list owner probably didn't think so either. The correct response was never have the list owner eat who wrote it for dinner! We are human beings on this list and had better treat each other accordingly. That snippy tone makes it sound like the person who made the post is worthless and should forthwith be automatically dumped in the outer darkness by impersonal forces. I don't think so! Let he who has never committed the same sin cast the first stone! I think what it really was was subtle racism, so positively put that it got right by the listowner. It came across as Scottish pride, and it may have been meant to be Scottish pride - until you realized that, wait a minute, these people are first of all annoyed at Michelle Obama for existing, and second, annoyed at her saying Black slaves were even capable of sophisticated architecture and building (which they were and did), because they were worthless Black slaves, INSTEAD of that everything worthwhile in the U.S. Capitol was REALLY done by SCOTTISH people, which is not even a reasonable statement. I think that probably got past a lot of people. It has not come across that people are offended because they mentioned Michelle Obama's speech, though anything is possible. We are all racist, people. It's a racist society. We grew up in a racist society. We can't get around it. Often people don't even realize they said something racist, and the correct thing to do is not get them on the defensive. The person who said this clearly among other things did not think it through before saying it. In fact, Scottish and Irish people say this kind of outrageous boast all the time over big jugs of whiskey; it's part of the culture. The correct thing to do is mildly point it out, or correct it, like I did - hey, Black slaves were not worthless, they were competent architects and builders and craftsmen and many had a hand in building the Capital, and so did Swedes, Germans, and a lot of other people, not blow up and I'm leaving the list! Don't any of you watch those TV programs like "What would you do?" You handle racism by tactfully trying to get the person who said it to think about it. "I don't see it that way", or turn to the person spoken TO and say, "I'm sorry about her." Both make it clear that you don't agree, and set the matter straight, WITHOUT being confrontational. The kind of snittiness I am seeing is usually the WRONG thing to do. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Anne Burgess via Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:44 AM To: Joyce Pavelko ; lanark@rootsweb.com ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Please join me in unsubscribing I won't be unsubscribing meantime in order to allow time for the List Administrator to take action on political content. However if anyone does wish to unsubscribe, I can recommend http://www.rootschat.com/forum/lanarkshire/ as a good alternative. Anne From: Joyce Pavelko via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: "lanark@rootsweb.com" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2016, 15:32 Subject: [Lanark] Please join me in unsubscribing I will be unsubscribing and moving to the Facebook list to discuss genealogy topics. If you would like to join me there, the address is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Lanark/ Good-bye, Joyce Pavelko Chicago, IL ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. 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We all have a delete button, use it in the event the topic is of no or little interest to you. What can one say to the responses that have become rather RUDE. Let it go, unsubscribe if you wish end of story. Everyone is free to join whatever group they want, I for one will stay with this list that has offered so much to so many over the years. List owner is a thankless job, one is not paid rather they give of their own time. We have learned that there is little tolerance from many. I am amazed that a statement about the White house has come to this, how about all the recipes that have been posted here, are they genealogy, I think not. They are about the culture of the country, and brought back memories of my grandmother for me. We did not have this sort of reaction, indeed some asked if we could get back to the subject of genealogy and the list continued peacefully. Go if you want and let the rest of us continue in peace. Heather in Canada

All a bit of an over-reaction IMHO - if you don't like the content delete the email, and move on.... Life is way too short! Regards On 31 July 2016 at 10:44, Anne Burgess via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I won't be unsubscribing meantime in order to allow time for the List > Administrator to take action on political content. > > However if anyone does wish to unsubscribe, I can recommend > http://www.rootschat.com/forum/lanarkshire/ as a good alternative. > > Anne > > > > From: Joyce Pavelko via <lanark@rootsweb.com> > To: "lanark@rootsweb.com" <lanark@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2016, 15:32 > Subject: [Lanark] Please join me in unsubscribing > > I will be unsubscribing and moving to the Facebook list to discuss > genealogy topics. If you would like to join me there, the address is: > https://www.facebook.com/groups/Lanark/ > > Good-bye, > Joyce Pavelko > Chicago, IL > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- *Edward*

Thank you, Nivard. You continue to amaze me with your intimate knowledge. Maisie -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:15 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Internal Server Error Hi Maisie The list archives are out of action for the time being and have been for a few weeks They are doing maintenance upgrading the servers Hopefully they will be back online soon Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 31-Jul-16 4:44 PM, Maisie Egger via wrote: > > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, root@localhost and inform them of > the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may > have caused the error. > > More information about this error may be available in the server error > log. > > Apache/2.2.15 (CentOS) Server at archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com Port 80 > > > This is the message I receive each time I try to click on to the Lanark > Archives. How do I bypass it, please? Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I won't be unsubscribing meantime in order to allow time for the List Administrator to take action on political content. However if anyone does wish to unsubscribe, I can recommend http://www.rootschat.com/forum/lanarkshire/ as a good alternative. Anne From: Joyce Pavelko via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: "lanark@rootsweb.com" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2016, 15:32 Subject: [Lanark] Please join me in unsubscribing I will be unsubscribing and moving to the Facebook list to discuss genealogy topics. If you would like to join me there, the address is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Lanark/ Good-bye, Joyce Pavelko Chicago, IL   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

https://www.viator.com/tours/Glasgow/City-Sightseeing-Glasgow-Hop-On-Hop-Off-Tour/d740-2065GLAS For anyone, no matter whether a ‘native’ or visitor to Glasgow, the hop-on, hop-off bus tour of Glasgow city areas of interest earns five stars. The tour bus stops right outside the door of the Mitchell Library, for one, so that you could spend time there and then when through with one’s genealogy research, could wave down one of the tour buses and return to George Square, having taken in more ‘viewscapes’ while at it. As a born and bred Glaswegian, I saw a lot of Glasgow on one of those tour buses that I never had any reason to visit whilst living in Glasgow. Incidentally, for any admirer of Robert Burns, the Mitchell has one of the largest collections in the world to do with Robert Burns, Scotland’s national poet, who is honoured by a spacious room dedicated to his works. The Mitchell also has census records since 1841. Go to this link for further information on the Mitchell: http://www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk/Pages/Home.aspx?gclid=CKCDor-KtbwCFSn4wgodH3YAbA Maisie

Ruth, What the heck is this all about? Does it have its genesis when I remarked that Michelle Obama commented on the White House being built by slaves, followed by my remark that she should perhaps have credited 'others' as being involved? I can't get on the Lanark Archives link to check just exactly what I did say. This Dora dame gets up my nose as she really expanded unnecessarily about Scots not being the only ones to be so important, or words to that effect. Others put a not so subtle political/racial slant on a simple remark. I'm not going to be bothered defending my post if that is what started this whole thing. People use any excuse to vent whatever is bothering them to make a big statement that they are going to unsubscribe. The ones recently have contributed nothing to the list, so sayonara! Maisie -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns via Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:30 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Unsubscribing? Why do these people need to be 'joined' in unsubscribing? It's a free Country, do as you please, with not so much ado about nothing. Fare thy well! Ruth in Canada ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, root@localhost and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Apache/2.2.15 (CentOS) Server at archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com Port 80 This is the message I receive each time I try to click on to the Lanark Archives. How do I bypass it, please? Maisie

This reply might have been intended to be positive, and might have thought a very short statement would get that across, but I really don't like the snippy tone. It didn't come across that the post was meant to be political, and the list owner probably didn't think so either. The correct response was never have the list owner eat who wrote it for dinner! We are human beings on this list and had better treat each other accordingly. That snippy tone makes it sound like the person who made the post is worthless and should forthwith be automatically dumped in the outer darkness by impersonal forces. I don't think so! Let he who has never committed the same sin cast the first stone! I think what it really was was subtle racism, so positively put that it got right by the listowner. It came across as Scottish pride, and it may have been meant to be Scottish pride - until you realized that, wait a minute, these people are first of all annoyed at Michelle Obama for existing, and second, annoyed at her saying Black slaves were even capable of sophisticated architecture and building (which they were and did), because they were worthless Black slaves, INSTEAD of that everything worthwhile in the U.S. Capitol was REALLY done by SCOTTISH people, which is not even a reasonable statement. I think that probably got past a lot of people. It has not come across that people are offended because they mentioned Michelle Obama's speech, though anything is possible. We are all racist, people. It's a racist society. We grew up in a racist society. We can't get around it. Often people don't even realize they said something racist, and the correct thing to do is not get them on the defensive. The person who said this clearly among other things did not think it through before saying it. In fact, Scottish and Irish people say this kind of outrageous boast all the time over big jugs of whiskey; it's part of the culture. The correct thing to do is mildly point it out, or correct it, like I did - hey, Black slaves were not worthless, they were competent architects and builders and craftsmen and many had a hand in building the Capital, and so did Swedes, Germans, and a lot of other people, not blow up and I'm leaving the list! Don't any of you watch those TV programs like "What would you do?" You handle racism by tactfully trying to get the person who said it to think about it. "I don't see it that way", or turn to the person spoken TO and say, "I'm sorry about her." Both make it clear that you don't agree, and set the matter straight, WITHOUT being confrontational. The kind of snittiness I am seeing is usually the WRONG thing to do. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Anne Burgess via Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:44 AM To: Joyce Pavelko ; lanark@rootsweb.com ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Please join me in unsubscribing I won't be unsubscribing meantime in order to allow time for the List Administrator to take action on political content. However if anyone does wish to unsubscribe, I can recommend http://www.rootschat.com/forum/lanarkshire/ as a good alternative. Anne From: Joyce Pavelko via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: "lanark@rootsweb.com" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2016, 15:32 Subject: [Lanark] Please join me in unsubscribing I will be unsubscribing and moving to the Facebook list to discuss genealogy topics. If you would like to join me there, the address is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Lanark/ Good-bye, Joyce Pavelko Chicago, IL ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Why do these people need to be 'joined' in unsubscribing? It's a free Country, do as you please, with not so much ado about nothing. Fare thy well! Ruth in Canada

Exactly. Dora -----Original Message----- From: nautakat via Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:19 AM To: 'edward paxton' ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Please join me in unsubscribing Hear, hear, Edward. -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of edward paxton via Sent: Sunday, 31 July 2016 7:56 PM To: Anne Burgess; <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Cc: Joyce Pavelko Subject: Re: [Lanark] Please join me in unsubscribing All a bit of an over-reaction IMHO - if you don't like the content delete the email, and move on.... Life is way too short! Regards On 31 July 2016 at 10:44, Anne Burgess via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I won't be unsubscribing meantime in order to allow time for the List > Administrator to take action on political content. > > However if anyone does wish to unsubscribe, I can recommend > http://www.rootschat.com/forum/lanarkshire/ as a good alternative. > > Anne > > > > From: Joyce Pavelko via <lanark@rootsweb.com> > To: "lanark@rootsweb.com" <lanark@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2016, 15:32 > Subject: [Lanark] Please join me in unsubscribing > > I will be unsubscribing and moving to the Facebook list to discuss > genealogy topics. If you would like to join me there, the address is: > https://www.facebook.com/groups/Lanark/ > > Good-bye, > Joyce Pavelko > Chicago, IL > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click > on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click > on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- *Edward* ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/learning/first-world-war/the-battle-of-the-somme-more-stories?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sp&utm_content=988407 On the off-chance that someone with Glasgow connections could be related to this young soldier, Thomas Murray, who died at the Battle of the Somme. Maisie

I like what Carolyn has said. Lots of people made fine contributions! :) Dora -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Perkes via Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:22 PM To: Lanark Lanarkshire Subject: [Lanark] Recent posts-family history and thanks Opinions about the White House aside, examples of Scottish masonry are abundant in Montréal, Toronto and other Canadian cities. Also, it is true that many Canadians are interested in their roots, regardless of origin. After all, Canada was the destination for people taking the Underground Railway in the mid-19th century. Also the destination for famine Irish and Scots! ** Restating my interest in the Lanarkshire list and expressing thanks: I have ancestors in Lanarkshire, including coal miners, grocers, tenant farmers, sheriffs, auctioneers and perhaps connections to colonialists (Scottish merchants in Glasgow trading in the West Indies, for example), and further back, Covenanters (the Wharrie or McQuarrie folks). Also, many other tenant farmers/ crofters from Sutherland and Caithness who migrated through Lanarkshire to Canada and the U.S. Timeframe: late 18th century through the late 19th-century. ** To say, what I’ve found is that family history takes on greater meaning when we try to fit it into a larger context, applying care and attention to detail. For me, this means that my research is not about any given individual, but the larger story. I think most people on this list have been wonderful, helping each other, and I would like to say thank you to you all for your help. Carolyn ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No no no, do not leave this great list, I get so much from you all, I have yet to be able to help anyone, but the day will come. Jenn. Cole Sent from my iPad

Well said, Heather. It's a great list of people who are generous with assistance, knowledge and humour. Long live the Lanark list! Kathryn Melbourne, Aus. -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Heather via Sent: Friday, 29 July 2016 5:51 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Sparks I normally do not post however I do find it interesting that a comment from someone off-topic I agree has sent waves to this list. We are all proud of our heritage and perhaps it does not hurt to see what is going on in the rest of the world. My grandparents were from Scotland and two years ago I fulfilled my life long dream of going to Scotland. I met with many wonderful people who educated me on many things that I would not have known had I not gone to this little town. Upon returning home I was anxious to share my experiences with family and friends. It is a good day when I have learned something new or exchanged ideas with someone. I view this dialogue on the White House as another form of education. There have been times on this list when folks are posting, "where is everyone", or "is the list down". I intend to stay with the list, and yes upon occasion get a chuckle out of the antics of some but in the end it all comes full circle and genealogy becomes the main focus as it should. In keeping with genealogy my focus is in the Chalmers and Lennie families from Carluke. Heather Umelas in Canada ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well Said Maisie true words Jean from Scotland -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger via Sent: 28 July 2016 6:41 PM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] "Dinnae fash yerself wi' the passing scene A THOUGHT FOR TODAY: We are social creatures to the inmost centre of our being. The notion that one can begin anything at all from scratch, free from the past, or unindebted to others, could not conceivably be more wrong. -Karl Popper, philosopher and a professor (28 Jul 1902-1994) Or to phrase it in the braid Scots, “Dinnae fash yersel wi’ the passing scene.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Too bad that an innocuous comment by First Lady Michelle Obama about slaves building the White House resulted in a couple or so comments taking it to the next level of political criticism. I agree with others that it is an ’over the top’ reaction as this list and others offer so much more helpful information in our evergoing quest to fill in the jigsaw puzzle of our sometimes elusive forbears. By extension, just the mention of granite workers in Dalbeattie, reminded me of my far-out cousin’s granite worker relatives in Dalbeattie, thence to Vermont, that has now prompted me to revisit that side of my father’s ‘tree’ --- so forget about the overreaction to the mild political comments by a couple of listers---this is the primary focus of what this list is all about. My own biases: I do not care to spend any more time on Facebook as I think the rootsweb sites are more far-flung and productive. One can go all the way back to the beginnings of the Lanark Archives which began with one contributor to grow to well over 1,000 in one month, to reconnect with a helpful reference. Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I LOVE the people on this list and so look forward to reading all the posts.  I have no trouble disregarding comments that I may not agree with, but am eagerly awaiting the stories and posts, especially those from Maisie and Nivard.  There are always interesting things that may lead to a discovery for the history of my ancestors.  I cherish the  insight into the life of my Scot ancestors who lived in and around the Glasgow area.  I never post anything. The only thing I could add would be things I've learned here.   I've been doing research on my family since 1982 and don't intend to quit anytime soon.  My thanks to all the wonderful people who have contributed so much. Cece Braun, St. Louis, MO

Opinions about the White House aside, examples of Scottish masonry are abundant in Montréal, Toronto and other Canadian cities. Also, it is true that many Canadians are interested in their roots, regardless of origin. After all, Canada was the destination for people taking the Underground Railway in the mid-19th century. Also the destination for famine Irish and Scots! ** Restating my interest in the Lanarkshire list and expressing thanks: I have ancestors in Lanarkshire, including coal miners, grocers, tenant farmers, sheriffs, auctioneers and perhaps connections to colonialists (Scottish merchants in Glasgow trading in the West Indies, for example), and further back, Covenanters (the Wharrie or McQuarrie folks). Also, many other tenant farmers/ crofters from Sutherland and Caithness who migrated through Lanarkshire to Canada and the U.S. Timeframe: late 18th century through the late 19th-century. ** To say, what I’ve found is that family history takes on greater meaning when we try to fit it into a larger context, applying care and attention to detail. For me, this means that my research is not about any given individual, but the larger story. I think most people on this list have been wonderful, helping each other, and I would like to say thank you to you all for your help. Carolyn

The one and only advantage that some people find to Facebook is the ability to restrict membership in a group. So your long lost cousin could have posted yesterday but you won't know it! Dora -----Original Message----- From: Irene Macleod via Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:42 AM To: ruth.enns ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] The problem with list leaving Facebook is fine for instant answers but if your long lost 3rd cousin posted 6 months ago you'll be hard pushed to find it. Whereas rootsweb archives are searchable. Irene Sent from my iPad > On 28 Jul 2016, at 16:34, ruth.enns via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Leave the Lanark List? One has to appreciate, one of the characteristics > of > Scottish People is their feistiness. > We have many learned people as members & to leave would be unfortunate to > miss out on their skills, wisdom, & guidance. > Politics, NO! Probe, YES! > > Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: Nivard Ovington via > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:27 AM > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Scots workers helped to build the White House > > I would have to disagree > > Its time those political comments were left off the list, thats all > > Discussion of Politics or Religion are subjects best kept off the lists > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 28-Jul-16 3:21 PM, Fraser Forrest via wrote: >> I agree - it's time to leave the list. >> >> Fraser Forrest > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. > Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the > following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree. Fewer people are doing genealogical research nowadays, and online resources have matured, so there is less Rootsweb discussion, but the resource remains invaluable. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger via Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:40 PM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] "Dinnae fash yerself wi' the passing scene A THOUGHT FOR TODAY: We are social creatures to the inmost centre of our being. The notion that one can begin anything at all from scratch, free from the past, or unindebted to others, could not conceivably be more wrong. -Karl Popper, philosopher and a professor (28 Jul 1902-1994) Or to phrase it in the braid Scots, “Dinnae fash yersel wi’ the passing scene.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Too bad that an innocuous comment by First Lady Michelle Obama about slaves building the White House resulted in a couple or so comments taking it to the next level of political criticism. I agree with others that it is an ’over the top’ reaction as this list and others offer so much more helpful information in our evergoing quest to fill in the jigsaw puzzle of our sometimes elusive forbears. By extension, just the mention of granite workers in Dalbeattie, reminded me of my far-out cousin’s granite worker relatives in Dalbeattie, thence to Vermont, that has now prompted me to revisit that side of my father’s ‘tree’ --- so forget about the overreaction to the mild political comments by a couple of listers---this is the primary focus of what this list is all about. My own biases: I do not care to spend any more time on Facebook as I think the rootsweb sites are more far-flung and productive. One can go all the way back to the beginnings of the Lanark Archives which began with one contributor to grow to well over 1,000 in one month, to reconnect with a helpful reference. Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message