http://www.scotsman.com/regions/glasgow-strathclyde/glaswegian-drivers-are-the-angriest-in-the-uk-1-4236147 Well, none of that when I was growing up: the tram car, bus, or Shank’s pony had to serve us, and when playing peever (hopscotch), ropes or other games in the street we were the ones that became irked when a car had the temerity to come down our street and interrupt our play. Time and change. Maisie

Yes, Ruth, we went there one time with my niece and I was shocked out of my socks at the price of things, computers, for example, far more expensive than here. I should have told my niece that Costco prices in Glasgow were a gyp compared with the local Costco prices in the county in California where I live, but I didn't! Turner Street, Villiers Street, Bright Street and Cobden Street all come off Charles Street, Garngad; however, one end of Charles Street came off Springburn Road and beginning of Castle Street in the Townhead. The 'back end' of Charles St., would be in Garngad. When the Stirling Road Townhead tenements, were demolished to make way for the University of Strathclyde and student dorms, many tenement dwellers were rehoused in a hi rise on Charles Street looking down on the old empty St. Rollox works and a 'fine view' of Sighthill cemetery, according to a family friend we were visiting. As with the Red Road flats, the hi rise in Charles Street had no room for children to play. A disgrace. Who are these people who design such places? Maisie -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 5:55 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Insdustralised Springburn and Red Rd. fkats Now there is a COSTCO near there!!!!!! across from the Cemetery....... -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:10 PM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Insdustralised Springburn and Red Rd. fkats Industrialised Springburn in north-east Glasgow was a thriving community of 30,000 population Charles Tennant, chemical works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Tennant), and four major railway companies, including North British Locomotive company, folded, so went the core of industrialised Springburn. Many of the tenements were demolished, and the population decreased by almost 10,000, with females outnumbering males. In the early 1960s a madcap scheme to build the highest flats in Europe at that time was devised. They would house over 5,000 occupants, many of whom were likely rehoused from the older tenements in Springburn. Read why they lived a short life compared with the tenements in some of the oldest parts of Glasgow...a social experiment gone awry, to put it simply. :::Increasingly run down by the turn of the millennium, the Red Road flats had acquired a grim reputation for squalor, violence and drug abuse. As they became increasingly hard to let, the flats were used to house asylum seekers, including the “Birdman of Red Road”. One of the flats’ most famous resident in later years, Jamal Hamad was a Kurdish refugee who lived alone in one of the cleared high-rises with only his canaries for company.::: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-37406817 I lived up the hill from the Red Road flats which were built 1960 after I left Glasgow. As I rec all growing up in the area, the ground where the Red Road flats were built always seemed to be puddly and black from coal dust residue. During the war a barrage balloon station was right across the way alongside some industrial works. The following link is a reminder of times when people did not indulge in drugs and violence, and where there was more of a spirit of community, even in such built-up tenement areas such as Springburn. Maisie

Now there is a COSTCO near there!!!!!! across from the Cemetery....... -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:10 PM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Insdustralised Springburn and Red Rd. fkats Industrialised Springburn in north-east Glasgow was a thriving community of 30,000 population Charles Tennant, chemical works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Tennant), and four major railway companies, including North British Locomotive company, folded, so went the core of industrialised Springburn. Many of the tenements were demolished, and the population decreased by almost 10,000, with females outnumbering males. In the early 1960s a madcap scheme to build the highest flats in Europe at that time was devised. They would house over 5,000 occupants, many of whom were likely rehoused from the older tenements in Springburn. Read why they lived a short life compared with the tenements in some of the oldest parts of Glasgow...a social experiment gone awry, to put it simply. :::Increasingly run down by the turn of the millennium, the Red Road flats had acquired a grim reputation for squalor, violence and drug abuse. As they became increasingly hard to let, the flats were used to house asylum seekers, including the “Birdman of Red Road”. One of the flats’ most famous resident in later years, Jamal Hamad was a Kurdish refugee who lived alone in one of the cleared high-rises with only his canaries for company.::: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-37406817 I lived up the hill from the Red Road flats which were built 1960 after I left Glasgow. As I rec all growing up in the area, the ground where the Red Road flats were built always seemed to be puddly and black from coal dust residue. During the war a barrage balloon station was right across the way alongside some industrial works. The following link is a reminder of times when people did not indulge in drugs and violence, and where there was more of a spirit of community, even in such built-up tenement areas such as Springburn. Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Industrialised Springburn in north-east Glasgow was a thriving community of 30,000 population Charles Tennant, chemical works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Tennant), and four major railway companies, including North British Locomotive company, folded, so went the core of industrialised Springburn. Many of the tenements were demolished, and the population decreased by almost 10,000, with females outnumbering males. In the early 1960s a madcap scheme to build the highest flats in Europe at that time was devised. They would house over 5,000 occupants, many of whom were likely rehoused from the older tenements in Springburn. Read why they lived a short life compared with the tenements in some of the oldest parts of Glasgow...a social experiment gone awry, to put it simply. :::Increasingly run down by the turn of the millennium, the Red Road flats had acquired a grim reputation for squalor, violence and drug abuse. As they became increasingly hard to let, the flats were used to house asylum seekers, including the “Birdman of Red Road”. One of the flats’ most famous resident in later years, Jamal Hamad was a Kurdish refugee who lived alone in one of the cleared high-rises with only his canaries for company.::: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-37406817 I lived up the hill from the Red Road flats which were built 1960 after I left Glasgow. As I rec all growing up in the area, the ground where the Red Road flats were built always seemed to be puddly and black from coal dust residue. During the war a barrage balloon station was right across the way alongside some industrial works. The following link is a reminder of times when people did not indulge in drugs and violence, and where there was more of a spirit of community, even in such built-up tenement areas such as Springburn. Maisie

http://www.miningartifacts.org/Scottishmines.html FYI about mining in Lanarkshire, as well as comments about miners ‘in thrall’. Adam Smith, I believe, said it was all right for the miners to be punished physically, and if killed in the process it was not to be considered murder. https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/jeremy-fox/edmund-burke-unspoken-villainy M.E.

John McEwan born 1824 Dunbartonshire married Jane Hendry 1860 Milton Glasgow She was born 1830 Glasgow death 1908 Stobhill, Midlothian Thier children consisted of James 18561 Milton - 1863 Lyon St Glasgow Thomas 1863 Lyon St Milton no more do I have Would very much like to know what happend to him marriage? death? or.. Robert 1865 Glasgow he was the informant to his mothers death Jane and so far I cannot locate him Again, I would love to know more William 1867 Lyon St Glasgow again no more details If anyone can help would be great Thanks Elaine

Have to admit I have never heard of such a thing! Anne From: "ruth.enns@shaw.ca" <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 5 September 2016, 5:45 Subject: [Lanark] Oathing Stones My friend, who performs weddings,  was just telling me about them. I wonder if they are widely l used to-day? Ruth ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maisie I don't know. Not one for weddings. Whit aboot the scramble (scrammel)? Wonder if they still have that. Cheers Ella > On 5 Sep 2016, at 15:08, Maisie Egger <campsiehills@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Never heard of such...so here's some more made up stuff, I am sure, as most weddings/receptions don't go in for this stuff. Even confetti is frowned upon now as it is so messy to clean up. Rice, in this country, is also looked down upon as people have slid on it and had a nasty fall. I'll need to ask my relatives in Scotland what is done now as "tradition. > > http://www.scottish-wedding-dreams.com/wedding-ceremony-customs.html > > M.E. > > -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 9:45 PM > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Lanark] Oathing Stones > > My friend, who performs weddings, was just telling me about them. > > I wonder if they are widely l used to-day? > > Ruth > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://swap.nesc.gla.ac.uk/database/?view=table&search= I found my surname listed (lower case) which confirms that my father’s people came from Southwest Scotland, but maybe that the name had its origins in Scandinavia...maybe. Maisie

It appears to be a lately made up custom to sell more to the unsuspecting by the looks of it to me Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05-Sep-16 5:45 AM, ruth.enns@shaw.ca wrote: > My friend, who performs weddings, was just telling me about them. > > I wonder if they are widely l used to-day? > Ruth

Never heard of such...so here's some more made up stuff, I am sure, as most weddings/receptions don't go in for this stuff. Even confetti is frowned upon now as it is so messy to clean up. Rice, in this country, is also looked down upon as people have slid on it and had a nasty fall. I'll need to ask my relatives in Scotland what is done now as "tradition. http://www.scottish-wedding-dreams.com/wedding-ceremony-customs.html M.E. -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 9:45 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Oathing Stones My friend, who performs weddings, was just telling me about them. I wonder if they are widely l used to-day? Ruth ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My friend, who performs weddings, was just telling me about them. I wonder if they are widely l used to-day? Ruth

Hi all I am revisiting my great great grandfathers details He was born 1799 in Lesmahagow the third son of John ANDERSON and Janet nee LAMB, two older brothers John b1795 & William b1797 In 1818 Georges older brother John b1795 died and George is mentioned as an apprentice clerk to William BLACK & Co manufacturers Glasgow, William is also mentioned as a clerk at the same firm I was wondering if anyone has had any success in tracing apprenticeship details for the period, I presume about 1811 to 1820, assuming he started a seven year apprenticeship at age 12 or 14 which was the norm The records of duties paid on apprenticeships end in 1811 so a little early but wondered if anyone had achieved success on the subject By 1827 at least George is in Demerara fathering a daughter Mary with Sarah FRASER -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Isabella (Isa ) Sanderson McPhee, born 1897 at Dennistoun, daughter of George McNaught McPhee (1862-1913 )& Anne Hodge ( 1869- 1898 ). She was brought up by her father, George & gr.mother, Jean McNaught McPhee.Isabella enter nurses training at the Royal Infirmary, Glasgow in 1919- 1923- spelling her name Isobel, living at Keig Villa, Bishopbriggs, Glasgow. Wondering what happened to her after graduating, did she continue nursing? Any info. would be greatly appreciated. Thank you; Shirle Manitoba, Canada

Listers, I hope you will indulge me with a brief off-Topic query. Please reply off List. If you message does not give you access to my address please use kenharrison43 (at) shaw.ca My wife and I will be making our first visit to NZ, arriving at Auckland on a cruise from Oz in mid February. Before arrival, the cruise will have gone to Milford Sound and stopped at Dunedin, Akaroa, Wellington, Napier & Tauranga. We have no other plans yet but hope to spend perhaps a week before flying home. We are wondering whether to rent a car or do arranged tours and would appreciate any advice on this, as well as places "not to miss" and accommodation suggestions. We generally enjoy B&Bs or casual hotels. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada

How times have become so lax, even at the level of the cathedral when my parents had their membership revoked in the beautiful Barony church, right opposite Glasgow Cathedral. Their ‘crime?’ They had not taken communion in five years! Such was kept track of on your communion card which an elder or deacon delivered to the house to be sure you knew communion ‘was coming up.’ In these times, I wonder if the Church of Scotland has such rigid communion requirements in light of the fact that babies can now be christened without too much rigidity to form. Do you think John Calvin would have been happy about this laid back ‘commitment’ at the cathedral to ‘introducing the child into the house of God?’ http://www.glasgowcathedral.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Baptism-Non-Members.pdf Maisie

Bradbury isn't listed in G F Black's 'Surnames of Scotland' so the name would appear to be of purely English origin. Is your John b 1854 the first with this middle name? Could he or an earlier relative have been named after the minister who baptised him, or a doctor or schoolmaster? Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:54 AM Subject: [Lanark] MIDDLE NAME BRADBURY >I have a relative John BRADBURY/BRADBERRY McKenzie b 1854 >Glasgow. > This middle name has been used for generations in my Scottish > Family . > Does any one have a clue where it would originate besides > England? > There is a Private Member on Ancestry I emailed but it does > not look like that address has been active since 2007. > ANY help appreciated, I think I have covered the usual search > routes & had others trying to help me. > Would the Ancestry Private Member still be active if their > fees had lapsed? > > Ruth > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the > earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as > LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or > click on the following link to the list information page > online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6201 / Virus Database: 4649/12908 - Release > Date: 08/30/16 >

Yes, he is the first but many to follow, even to Oz & Tasmania. Tried all those routes you mention, but thanks for responding. Only possibility is a 1851 Census: Charles J. Bradbury 25 merchant draper Manchester lodging at 50 North Albion St Glasgow Can't tie him into the Matthew & Jane McKenzie Family. Wish the Private Member from Ancestry would respond . I am only going public to try to attract their attention. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Anne Burgess Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 1:38 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] MIDDLE NAME BRADBURY Bradbury isn't listed in G F Black's 'Surnames of Scotland' so the name would appear to be of purely English origin. Is your John b 1854 the first with this middle name? Could he or an earlier relative have been named after the minister who baptised him, or a doctor or schoolmaster? Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:54 AM Subject: [Lanark] MIDDLE NAME BRADBURY >I have a relative John BRADBURY/BRADBERRY McKenzie b 1854 Glasgow. > This middle name has been used for generations in my Scottish Family . > Does any one have a clue where it would originate besides England? > There is a Private Member on Ancestry I emailed but it does not look like > that address has been active since 2007. > ANY help appreciated, I think I have covered the usual search routes & had > others trying to help me. > Would the Ancestry Private Member still be active if their fees had > lapsed? > > Ruth > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6201 / Virus Database: 4649/12908 - Release Date: 08/30/16 > ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a relative John BRADBURY/BRADBERRY McKenzie b 1854 Glasgow. This middle name has been used for generations in my Scottish Family . Does any one have a clue where it would originate besides England? There is a Private Member on Ancestry I emailed but it does not look like that address has been active since 2007. ANY help appreciated, I think I have covered the usual search routes & had others trying to help me. Would the Ancestry Private Member still be active if their fees had lapsed? Ruth

No necessarily to do with Lanark, but of historical note. I liked the comment not to think of Scots as an ‘exceptionalism’ trait as umpteen nationalities helped to build North America. http://www.scotsman.com/heritage/people-places/the-highlander-immigrants-who-helped-build-america-1-42 The tall bagpiper to the right in the pic of the Lanark pipe band needs to lower his kilt nearer his knees! Maisie