Hi Jenny Good to see your email. Do you think it could have been Portsmouth? His differing heights are unusual. I'm suffering the same but getting shorter. Hope this finds you well. Cheers Ella > On 25 Apr 2017, at 13:14, Jennifer Myers <jenm@exemail.com.au> wrote: > > Remembering my grandfather today, 102 years on, as he Served alongside the ANZACs at Gallipoli... > > No. 1835 > John KEITH - Royal Engineers (T) > > John joined the Territorial Force, 2nd Lowland Field Coy., Lowland Divisional Engineers on 9 Jan., 1909, where he carried out general service training until 1914 when he was called upon for regular duty at the onset of WWI. > > At the age of 17 when John enlisted he signed for a 4 year term, he was 5 feet 6 inches in height, on his Medical History file (enlistment into Regular Army) he was 24 yrs 15 days, occupation of Steelworker, height 5' 4", weight 10 stone 9 pounds, expanded girth (chest) measurement of 39", physical development was good, had been vaccinated and vision in both eyes was normal. At discharge he was 5' 5" in height, dark complexion, blue eyes, black hair with a small brown identification mark on his upper part of left leg. > > John embarked from ?....mouth on the 18 Mar., 1915, landing at Cape Helles on 26 May, 1915. > > Beginning his Embodied Service with the rank of Sapper in 1914, he was promoted to Lance Corporal whilst serving with the Expeditionary Forces at Gallipoli from 18 Mar., 1915 (Emb. date) to 27 Jan., 1916. From the Medal Rolls of the Royal Engineers (1914-1915 Star) it was noted that John had been engaged in Signals. > > John's Discharge from the Lowland Divisional Engineers R E (Territorial) was granted at the Masonic Hall, Hamilton, LKS, on 2 Feb 1916 under Para. 392 XXI of the King's Regulations. His total service was 7 years 25 days including 1 year 128 days embodied service with 306 days at Gallipoli. > > One question to this day still remains unanswered....'How did' and 'when did' John return to England from Europe? > A notation on his Service record... > From the Col. in Charge at Chatham... "The above Discharge took place in England and there is no local record as to how the N.C.O. returned there." > > > 'Lest We Forget', > Jenny > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Remembering my grandfather today, 102 years on, as he Served alongside the ANZACs at Gallipoli... No. 1835 John KEITH - Royal Engineers (T) John joined the Territorial Force, 2nd Lowland Field Coy., Lowland Divisional Engineers on 9 Jan., 1909, where he carried out general service training until 1914 when he was called upon for regular duty at the onset of WWI. At the age of 17 when John enlisted he signed for a 4 year term, he was 5 feet 6 inches in height, on his Medical History file (enlistment into Regular Army) he was 24 yrs 15 days, occupation of Steelworker, height 5' 4", weight 10 stone 9 pounds, expanded girth (chest) measurement of 39", physical development was good, had been vaccinated and vision in both eyes was normal. At discharge he was 5' 5" in height, dark complexion, blue eyes, black hair with a small brown identification mark on his upper part of left leg. John embarked from ?....mouth on the 18 Mar., 1915, landing at Cape Helles on 26 May, 1915. Beginning his Embodied Service with the rank of Sapper in 1914, he was promoted to Lance Corporal whilst serving with the Expeditionary Forces at Gallipoli from 18 Mar., 1915 (Emb. date) to 27 Jan., 1916. From the Medal Rolls of the Royal Engineers (1914-1915 Star) it was noted that John had been engaged in Signals. John's Discharge from the Lowland Divisional Engineers R E (Territorial) was granted at the Masonic Hall, Hamilton, LKS, on 2 Feb 1916 under Para. 392 XXI of the King's Regulations. His total service was 7 years 25 days including 1 year 128 days embodied service with 306 days at Gallipoli. One question to this day still remains unanswered....'How did' and 'when did' John return to England from Europe? A notation on his Service record... >From the Col. in Charge at Chatham... "The above Discharge took place in England and there is no local record as to how the N.C.O. returned there." 'Lest We Forget', Jenny --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Nice to see Jenny and Ella back on the list. I learned about ANZAC DAY from Jenny's messages and research, and have great respect for those soldiers. In Memory... Thank you, Jeannette, an American with Scottish roots.

Please tell me more about Hand Fasting. I know it was to be 1 year + 1 day, but what time period, and how long did it go on. Would it have possibly been in N. Ireland also. Still searching for a marriage about 1884-1885. Just clutching at straws. Thank you, Jeannette

Listers, I saw this on the Co. Tyrone list and thought it might be of some interest as many Irish did a reverse settlement in Scotland especially after the Irish famine. http://www.angelfire.com/ut/humceltic/Undertakers.html Of further interest, there is an article in the May 2017 issue of the National Geographic (American publication, I suppose), entitled ‘Whose Moors Are They?’ When we were last in the Stirling area, there were no wind farms...so Scotland is going through many changes where 25 percent of the heather moorland has been lost. What does that have to do with Lanark? Well, many of the workers on such enormous estates found their way to such as industrialised Glasgow, just as the Irish did, though the article makes no mention of this. Just FYI to ‘extrapolate,’ so to speak. Maisie

Thanks Jeannette, Yes our local library in Queensland, has Ancestry and My Heritage, I think, as well and I have used it in the past and will probably use it in the future as well. Sue -----Original Message----- From: LANARK [mailto:lanark-bounces+rmshamilton=bigpond.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeannette Walton Sent: Friday, 14 April 2017 11:59 PM To: LANARK- List <lanark@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [Lanark] Query Re FTM 2017 I would check with your local public library for a subscription to Ancestry. I'm in southwest Florida where we have access to Ancestry through our library. All it requires is a library card to be able to sign in to Ancestry, an make use of it. Our library card is free to local citizens. I'm anxiously waiting for my copy of FTM 2017, to learn the syncing capabilities. I know there will be changes, but changes are good. Hope this helps. Jeannette On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Susan Hamilton <rmshamilton@bigpond.com> wrote: > Thanks Max, Ancestry is too expensive for me and I have just let my > Find My Past lapse also. Most of my research is in England and > Australia and I have found FMP is a good option. I will renew probably when they have a special. > I only have my tree on my computer with back up so still thinking > about the sync option. > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: LANARK > [mailto:lanark-bounces+rmshamilton=bigpond.com@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Stephen Maxwell > Sent: Friday, 14 April 2017 4:27 PM > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Query Re FTM 2017 > > I like the sync function because data that I add to my trees on > Ancestry.ca are automatically downloaded to my local trees in FTM. If > you don't use ancestry.com then there is no advantage to it, because > it only works with a subscription. Now if you want to save yourself a > bunch of duplicate typing after searching various sites for data, you > may want to get a membership to Ancestry. It is rather expensive > though. I have the world membership (because most of my ancestor > research is overseas from Canada) so I pay > $39.99 per month. I ran out of research on Ancestry.ca after about a > month at $19.99 and had to get the world membership. > > Max... > > On 2017-03-29 6:15 PM, Susan Hamilton wrote: > > Good morning Listers, > > > > I have been using 2014 FTM since upgrading a couple of years ago but > > I have never used the sync function. I do not have an Ancestry > > subscription so my question is: what are the advantages and/or > > disadvantages of using the sync function and do I need an Ancestry > > subscription to use it? 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Apologies Nivard my typo, should be 25yrs. It has been working in conjunction with FamilySearch since 2013. Is FTM2017 going to sync with Ancestry including all the false or incorrect 'Trees' that are on their site? Is it worth the cost of an Ancestry subscription just for that feature? Jenny --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Jim Unsure what you mean by linking to Rootsweb? Or do you mean Worldconnect? It wouldn't be synch'ing with it but rather linking perhaps Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15-Apr-17 6:52 PM, jbundy48@comcast.net wrote: > Hi Nivard, it seems that the same will be true of rootsweb, the free side of ancestry, with a link, but not sure about syncing with that one or not. > Jim Bundy

Hi Nivard, it seems that the same will be true of rootsweb, the free side of ancestry, with a link, but not sure about syncing with that one or not. Jim Bundy 1. Re: Query Re FTM 2017 (jean old) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:03:38 +0000 From: jean old <jeanallensassy@hotmail.com> To: "lanark@rootsweb.com" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [Lanark] Query Re FTM 2017 Message-ID: <ME1PR01MB15551D7FCA69E7B3A7E92AE1CE040@ME1PR01MB1555.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Nivard People should like the new FTM it also will sync with family search which is also good Regards Jean ________________________________ From: LANARK <lanark-bounces+jeanallensassy=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:00:56 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Query Re FTM 2017 Hi Susan re synching I wasn't sure so asked someone who would I asked if you needed to have a subscription to Synch to Ancestry, the answer was no, the tree and synching is free However you would require FTM2017 when its released, as all others (FTM2012 & FTM2014 & FTM2014.1) are now turned off So you can synch to Ancestry and set your tree as you wish (private, hidden or public) without a sub, any records you add would remain available, any records subsequently attached to your tree that were Ancestry records would not be viewable on Ancestry without a sub, but if on your computer would remain viewable there The advantage to synching is it means anything altered on Ancestry or your own FTM on your computer can be synched to reflect the change in the opposite number Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I have been using Ancestral Quest for 35 yrs now and it has had the search sync for all the major players including FamilySearch in at least the past 2 upgrades. I recently upgraded to Ver.15 but to date haven't uploaded any ged. data. A year ago my friend needed to re-save all her FH as she had been using a much older version of FTM, she didn't like the post-mortems of later FTM versions so she decided upon using Ancestral Quest and was so pleased afterwards, mainly because of the way all her notes and data was produced. In saying all that, there is nothing new with FTM17 having a sync version when it has been available through other FT programs for quite sometime and probably at a far less cost. Regards, Jenny -----Original Message----- From: jbundy48@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 10:47 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] LANARK Digest, Vol 12, Issue 38 Hi, I'm very interested to see this new version of FTM 2017 as soon as it's been we ll tested and all issues resolved. It looks like not only Ancestry will be linked to FTM, but Family Search also. In addition to the green leaves on the person icon noting that ancestry records are attached to that person's information hints, there will also be a blue square meaning there are Family Search hints also. There may be more services connected. I am concerned hearing of continuing sync issues for large family files, as mine is approaching 10000 persons, but I'm sure they will work that out. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 02:27:00 -0400 From: Stephen Maxwell <maccus@clanmaxwell.com> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Query Re FTM 2017 I like the sync function because data that I add to my trees on Ancestry.ca are automatically downloaded to my local trees in FTM. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

I use Dropbox to keep all versions of my tree synchronised. If all one's ancestors were born, brought up, had their families, lived out their lives and died in Scotland, like mine, then Ancestry is entirely dispensable, though the free access in some libraries can be handy for tracing people who emigrated. Anne -----Original Message----- From: LANARK [mailto:lanark-bounces+anne.genlists=btinternet.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 15 April 2017 15:29 To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] FT programs FTM17 Hi Anne Hopefully I have explained more fully now that the synch has no connection to other peoples trees The benefit in the synch is time saving and accuracy for the tree owner as trees on Ancestry and on the home computer will be the same regardless of where the changes are made It depends on how a user sets their tree as to whether the data in their tree can be seen or searched for I have a copy of the latest free Ancestral Quest and am quite impressed with it and may take the plunge and buy a copy, it may be of interest that AQ will read a PAF file, and any changes made in AQ can be read by PAF, AQ & PAF files are interchangeable I agree with you entirely regarding my own research and if I put a full tree on Ancestry it would be set to Private as a minimum, I may do it sometime as its a way of sharing with a relative without giving them the whole thing Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15-Apr-17 11:28 AM, Anne Burgess wrote: > FWIW synching with other trees on any web site would not be an inducement to > me to buy any package - rather the reverse, in fact. > > I am not about to give a free gift of the results of over 30 years' research > to any web site, and I would be pretty annoyed if I 'synched' with some > other tree and the owner of that tree then made changes to the other which > introduced errors to mine. > > I prefer to keep my tree on my own computer where no one can pirate it or > view it or change it unless I specifically allow them, and no web site can > index any of the information on it. > > Like Nivard, I am still using PAF, but am considering trying Ancestral Quest > or RootsMagic, both of which will mostly do what I want and not what I don't > want them to do. > > Anne ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Anne Hopefully I have explained more fully now that the synch has no connection to other peoples trees The benefit in the synch is time saving and accuracy for the tree owner as trees on Ancestry and on the home computer will be the same regardless of where the changes are made It depends on how a user sets their tree as to whether the data in their tree can be seen or searched for I have a copy of the latest free Ancestral Quest and am quite impressed with it and may take the plunge and buy a copy, it may be of interest that AQ will read a PAF file, and any changes made in AQ can be read by PAF, AQ & PAF files are interchangeable I agree with you entirely regarding my own research and if I put a full tree on Ancestry it would be set to Private as a minimum, I may do it sometime as its a way of sharing with a relative without giving them the whole thing Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15-Apr-17 11:28 AM, Anne Burgess wrote: > FWIW synching with other trees on any web site would not be an inducement to > me to buy any package - rather the reverse, in fact. > > I am not about to give a free gift of the results of over 30 years' research > to any web site, and I would be pretty annoyed if I 'synched' with some > other tree and the owner of that tree then made changes to the other which > introduced errors to mine. > > I prefer to keep my tree on my own computer where no one can pirate it or > view it or change it unless I specifically allow them, and no web site can > index any of the information on it. > > Like Nivard, I am still using PAF, but am considering trying Ancestral Quest > or RootsMagic, both of which will mostly do what I want and not what I don't > want them to do. > > Anne

Hi Jenny The synch function between FTM2017 & Ancestry is *only* for your own tree, nothing at all to do with anyone elses trees You might get hints from Ancestry or other peoples trees if you have a tree on Ancestry (synched of not) but you don't have to look at them or use them in any way, its your choice entirely Any tree on Ancestry can be set as public (will be found in all searches and anyone can see and copy data) Private (will be found in searches but only a brief on an individual, ie name, birth year and place if recorded) for any further detail the user needs to message the tree owner, data cannot be copied) Or Private Hidden (does not come up in searches at all, so no other user would be aware of it in any way) As I said earlier, you do *not* need an Ancestry subscription to use the synch function Regardless of whether a researcher uses FTM2017, in my humble opinion Ancestry is indispensable for research unless you have very deep pockets and a heck of a lot of patience ;-) The synch function can save a lot of time in that it replicates any changes made in either FTM2017 or on Ancestry As far as I am concerned the vast majority of online trees (whether on Ancestry or any other site) are not worth wasting my time on, the only tree I can be sure of is my own Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15-Apr-17 11:16 AM, Jennifer Myers wrote: > Apologies Nivard my typo, should be 25yrs. > > It has been working in conjunction with FamilySearch since 2013. > > Is FTM2017 going to sync with Ancestry including all the false or > incorrect 'Trees' that are on their site? Is it worth the cost of an > Ancestry subscription just for that feature? > > Jenny

Hi Anne, You're correct. Scotland's People is the best. Ancestry does not have the images that we see on S.P. It's been a great help to me for a very long time. Happy hunting. Jeannette On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Anne Burgess <anne.genlists@btinternet.com > wrote: > I use Dropbox to keep all versions of my tree synchronised. > > If all one's ancestors were born, brought up, had their families, lived out > their lives and died in Scotland, like mine, then Ancestry is entirely > dispensable, though the free access in some libraries can be handy for > tracing people who emigrated. > > Anne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LANARK > [mailto:lanark-bounces+anne.genlists=btinternet.com@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf > Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: 15 April 2017 15:29 > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Lanark] FT programs FTM17 > > Hi Anne > > Hopefully I have explained more fully now that the synch has no > connection to other peoples trees > > The benefit in the synch is time saving and accuracy for the tree owner > as trees on Ancestry and on the home computer will be the same > regardless of where the changes are made > > It depends on how a user sets their tree as to whether the data in their > tree can be seen or searched for > > I have a copy of the latest free Ancestral Quest and am quite impressed > with it and may take the plunge and buy a copy, it may be of interest > that AQ will read a PAF file, and any changes made in AQ can be read by > PAF, AQ & PAF files are interchangeable > > I agree with you entirely regarding my own research and if I put a full > tree on Ancestry it would be set to Private as a minimum, I may do it > sometime as its a way of sharing with a relative without giving them the > whole thing > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 15-Apr-17 11:28 AM, Anne Burgess wrote: > > FWIW synching with other trees on any web site would not be an inducement > to > > me to buy any package - rather the reverse, in fact. > > > > I am not about to give a free gift of the results of over 30 years' > research > > to any web site, and I would be pretty annoyed if I 'synched' with some > > other tree and the owner of that tree then made changes to the other > which > > introduced errors to mine. > > > > I prefer to keep my tree on my own computer where no one can pirate it or > > view it or change it unless I specifically allow them, and no web site > can > > index any of the information on it. > > > > Like Nivard, I am still using PAF, but am considering trying Ancestral > Quest > > or RootsMagic, both of which will mostly do what I want and not what I > don't > > want them to do. > > > > Anne > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. > Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the > following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

FWIW synching with other trees on any web site would not be an inducement to me to buy any package - rather the reverse, in fact. I am not about to give a free gift of the results of over 30 years' research to any web site, and I would be pretty annoyed if I 'synched' with some other tree and the owner of that tree then made changes to the other which introduced errors to mine. I prefer to keep my tree on my own computer where no one can pirate it or view it or change it unless I specifically allow them, and no web site can index any of the information on it. Like Nivard, I am still using PAF, but am considering trying Ancestral Quest or RootsMagic, both of which will mostly do what I want and not what I don't want them to do. Anne -----Original Message----- From: LANARK [mailto:lanark-bounces+anne.genlists=btinternet.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Myers Sent: 15 April 2017 11:17 To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] FT programs FTM17 Apologies Nivard my typo, should be 25yrs. It has been working in conjunction with FamilySearch since 2013. Is FTM2017 going to sync with Ancestry including all the false or incorrect 'Trees' that are on their site? Is it worth the cost of an Ancestry subscription just for that feature? Jenny --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not that this will change your mind at all, but the sync feature will only work with your tree or someone;s whom you choose to work with on Ancestry. It won't sync with the myriad of other trees (erroneous or otherwise) on Ancestry. I am afraid you are confusing synchronization with the search or hints (shaky leaves) features in FTM. Ancestral Quest and others do, as you are indicating, support search and hints, but not with Ancestry. If you work with Ancestry, the sync feature is really quite a time saver. You can easily add records to your tree in either Ancestry or FTM, and then sync them to keep both up to date. MacKiev is also indicating that they are working on sync with FamilySearch. If you are looking for alternative to FTM, RootsMagic is also working on releasing (this month?) an updated version that syncs with Ancestry and they already sync with FamilySearch Regards, Dave On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 6:16 AM, Jennifer Myers <jenm@exemail.com.au> wrote: > Apologies Nivard my typo, should be 25yrs. > > It has been working in conjunction with FamilySearch since 2013. > > Is FTM2017 going to sync with Ancestry including all the false or > incorrect 'Trees' that are on their site? Is it worth the cost of an > Ancestry subscription just for that feature? > > Jenny > > > -

Hi Jenny I would agree with your comments on Ancestral Quest which is an excellent software package, although it hasn't been around for quite 35 years yet, it was first released in 1994 The same company also produced PAF for the LDS (which I still use quite happily) But I think there is some confusion over the "synch" function No other company as yet have produced software than "synchs" to Ancestry The synch function isn't just linking to another site its the synchronisation of data between FTM and an Ancestry tree, so anything changed in either FTM or on Ancestry is reflected in its opposite without further keying Whilst other software can search the likes of familysearch, only FTM could synch with an Ancestry tree to date The first version to be able to synch was FTM2012, then FTM2014, both of which have had that function switched off now, in readiness for FTM2017 when released by MacKiev One or two others are working on a synch function but as far as I know are not ready for release yet Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15-Apr-17 8:29 AM, Jennifer Myers wrote: > I have been using Ancestral Quest for 35 yrs now and it has had the > search sync for all the major players including FamilySearch in at least > the past 2 upgrades. I recently upgraded to Ver.15 but to date haven't > uploaded any ged. data. > > A year ago my friend needed to re-save all her FH as she had been using > a much older version of FTM, she didn't like the post-mortems of later > FTM versions so she decided upon using Ancestral Quest and was so > pleased afterwards, mainly because of the way all her notes and data was > produced. > > In saying all that, there is nothing new with FTM17 having a sync > version when it has been available through other FT programs for quite > sometime and probably at a far less cost. > > Regards, > Jenny

Hi Nivard People should like the new FTM it also will sync with family search which is also good Regards Jean ________________________________ From: LANARK <lanark-bounces+jeanallensassy=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:00:56 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Query Re FTM 2017 Hi Susan re synching I wasn't sure so asked someone who would I asked if you needed to have a subscription to Synch to Ancestry, the answer was no, the tree and synching is free However you would require FTM2017 when its released, as all others (FTM2012 & FTM2014 & FTM2014.1) are now turned off So you can synch to Ancestry and set your tree as you wish (private, hidden or public) without a sub, any records you add would remain available, any records subsequently attached to your tree that were Ancestry records would not be viewable on Ancestry without a sub, but if on your computer would remain viewable there The advantage to synching is it means anything altered on Ancestry or your own FTM on your computer can be synched to reflect the change in the opposite number Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Apr-17 8:12 AM, Susan Hamilton wrote: > Thanks Max, Ancestry is too expensive for me and I have just let my Find My > Past lapse also. Most of my research is in England and Australia and I have > found FMP is a good option. I will renew probably when they have a special. > I only have my tree on my computer with back up so still thinking about the > sync option. > Sue ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I'm very interested to see this new version of FTM 2017 as soon as it's been we ll tested and all issues resolved. It looks like not only Ancestry will be linked to FTM, but Family Search also. In addition to the green leaves on the person icon noting that ancestry records are attached to that person's information hints, there will also be a blue square meaning there are Family Search hints also. There may be more services connected. I am concerned hearing of continuing sync issues for large family files, as mine is approaching 10000 persons, but I'm sure they will work that out. Jim ----- Original Message ----- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 02:27:00 -0400 From: Stephen Maxwell <maccus@clanmaxwell.com> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Query Re FTM 2017 Message-ID: <1075064b-5e60-9b5d-6d5e-f4e9c8131a5c@clanmaxwell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed I like the sync function because data that I add to my trees on Ancestry.ca are automatically downloaded to my local trees in FTM. If you don't use ancestry.com then there is no advantage to it, because it only works with a subscription. Now if you want to save yourself a bunch of duplicate typing after searching various sites for data, you may want to get a membership to Ancestry. It is rather expensive though. I have the world membership (because most of my ancestor research is overseas from Canada) so I pay $39.99 per month. I ran out of research on Ancestry.ca after about a month at $19.99 and had to get the world membership. Max... On 2017-03-29 6:15 PM, Susan Hamilton wrote: > Good morning Listers, > > I have been using 2014 FTM since upgrading a couple of years ago but I have > never used the sync function. I do not have an Ancestry subscription so my > question is: what are the advantages and/or disadvantages of using the sync > function and do I need an Ancestry subscription to use it? Maybe then I can > decide whether to upgrade to the 2017 version. > > I would be most grateful for your views. > > Thanks > > Susan > > > > > -------------------------------

Thanks Max, Ancestry is too expensive for me and I have just let my Find My Past lapse also. Most of my research is in England and Australia and I have found FMP is a good option. I will renew probably when they have a special. I only have my tree on my computer with back up so still thinking about the sync option. Sue -----Original Message----- From: LANARK [mailto:lanark-bounces+rmshamilton=bigpond.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Maxwell Sent: Friday, 14 April 2017 4:27 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Query Re FTM 2017 I like the sync function because data that I add to my trees on Ancestry.ca are automatically downloaded to my local trees in FTM. If you don't use ancestry.com then there is no advantage to it, because it only works with a subscription. Now if you want to save yourself a bunch of duplicate typing after searching various sites for data, you may want to get a membership to Ancestry. It is rather expensive though. I have the world membership (because most of my ancestor research is overseas from Canada) so I pay $39.99 per month. I ran out of research on Ancestry.ca after about a month at $19.99 and had to get the world membership. Max... On 2017-03-29 6:15 PM, Susan Hamilton wrote: > Good morning Listers, > > I have been using 2014 FTM since upgrading a couple of years ago but I > have never used the sync function. I do not have an Ancestry > subscription so my question is: what are the advantages and/or > disadvantages of using the sync function and do I need an Ancestry > subscription to use it? Maybe then I can decide whether to upgrade to the 2017 version. > > I would be most grateful for your views. > > Thanks > > Susan > > > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message