Gay .. I have got a marriage doc .. handwritten off Scotlands people .. it doesn't really say much more than we know .. however, I did find a birth notice for an Agnes Campbell .. but I am not sure if it is the correct one .. I do have it on my pc if you want to have a look .. ? Maree

Hi Maree, I stopped researching the tree of my foster brother when I had the bare bones.of every line back to their entry into Australia, .to allow him or his children the same fun as I have been having... Have you searched for the Marriage between Michael Rice and Agnes Campbell in Glasgow...which occured 5 August 1821 after his discharge and may give you more information... The marriage is on the Latter Day Saints family search site, and if you hire the film it will expand on the information for you. To what degree though, I am not sure. Film number 1042985, will give you the information... The other option is to find the marriage on Scotlandspeople.gov.uk, if you have any credits there.. Good Luck..and if I find a connection with your Campbell and mine, will let you know Gay

Thank you Gay ... I thought I should ask if you have found anything on Agnes Campbell .. because I have not been able to find anything ... hopefully one day we will :) regards Maree

Hi Maree, . Not on your Agnes Campbell Maree, who is the ancestor of my foster brother a separate family which I researched, if you recall. Your Agnes Campbell has never been in Ceylon. She was born and stayed in Glasgow until she went to NZ with her hubbie, the Royal NZ Fencible. . Agnes is no relation at all to my John Campbell, that I have been able to find, although I do check every time I search for John, to see if Agnes is related.. Ceylon records are more relevant to the indigenous Sri Lankan than the European, Civil registration started very late in the 1800s in Ceylon, so there is extremely little (if in fact anything) to be found for BMDs in Ceylon for Britons... Gay

Hi Gay .. did you find some info on our Campbells ? cheers Maree Larsen Hobart

> Has anyone had any success in getting records (bmd) referring to Ceylon > (Sri Lanka) of the early 1800s-1850s? Hi Louise, Don't hold your breath, I have been searching for 12 years to get something out of Ceylon....for my Campbell rellies... I think I can point you in the right direction for some sort of information and will email you off-list with further help.. Cheers Gay Research Names: http://www.perthdps.com/research/fie01.html

I find useful the book "List of inscriptions on tombstones and monuments in Ceylon, of historical or local interest, with an obituary of persons uncommemorated (1913) by J Penry Lewis, C.M.G., Ceylon Civil Service, retired. Printed by H. C. Cottle, Government Printer, Ceylon" The *.pdf version can be downloaded from http://www.archive.org/download/cu31924007648516/cu31924007648516.pdf. I find www.archive.org OCR work pretty pathetic so I use Acrobat Pro to do character recognition for me. Note: MI's are short so if there is quite a bit of writing it has been by way of family obituaries included. Cheers Peter in Zimbabwe > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:04:02 +1000 > From: "Gay Fielding" <gayze@tpg.com.au> > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Records from ceylon - CAMPBELL > To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4DF620674D584CC8BD42FF0D0193DA6C@gay58568ac2fbd> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >> Has anyone had any success in getting records (bmd) referring to Ceylon >> (Sri Lanka) of the early 1800s-1850s? > Hi Louise, > Don't hold your breath, I have been searching for 12 years to get > something > out of Ceylon....for my Campbell rellies... > I think I can point you in the right direction for some sort of > information > and will email you off-list with further help.. > Cheers > Gay > Research Names: > http://www.perthdps.com/research/fie01.html

Hi Wondering if your husbands McDonald's (or anyone else's) would relate to my great-grandfather Graham McDonald born in Crossmyloof, Renfrewshire 1813, or his father Charles McDonald born in Greenock, Renfrewshire in 1792? They all ended up in Glasgow and surrounding areas, before immigrating to Canada. Charles and his wife Grace (Kerr) were here in Ontario (Pickering Twsp.) by 1851/2 census and Graham and his wife Sarah McCulloch and their family arrived in 1853. They were all weavers by trade. Elizabeth (warm, Ontario, Canada) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Christie family of Carnath, Lanark, Scotland my husbands has a few, Buchannan, Lamont and few McDonalds, Janice Belrose - Sydney

Good evening, Thank you so much for this information, I really appreciate what you have been able to put together for me. I think we have been able to ascertain that Judge, John Harvie CHRISTIE's wife may have been Elizabeth GORDON, and at the time of her death she was 26 years old in 1800, so she was born circa 1774. I am sure, but not positive, that the GORDON family were well know in Scotland. Not having any Scots in my family, all Irish, some convicts too, my husbands has a few, Buchannan, Lamont and few McDonalds, I do not know a lot about Scottish history. So if anyone can help with the wife of Judge John Harvie CHRISTIE, I would very much appreciate the help. Regards, Janice Belrose - Sydney \ ----- Original Message ----- From: "hiflyte" <hiflyte@telus.net> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Christie family of Carnath, Lanark, Scotland > Found the following entries which you appear to have but no harm in > reposting birth data at least others may be able to use the info. > -------------- > > CHRISTIE > Elizabeth > Christening > Gender: Female > Birth Date: 17 Nov 1766 > Christening Date: 23 Nov 1766 > Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland > Father: John CHRISTIE > Mother: Susann HARVEY > Source: FHL Film 1042970 > Dates: 1709 - 1801 > > CHRISTIE > John > Harvey > Christening > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 26 Mar 1768 > Christening Date: 4 Apr 1768 > Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland > Father: John CHRISTIE > Mother: Susanna HARVEY > Source: FHL Film 1042970 > Dates: 1709 - 1801 > > CHRISTIE > Janet > Christening > Gender: Female > Birth Date: 27 Sep 1769 > Christening Date: 1 Oct 1769 > Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland > Father: John CHRISTIE > Mother: Susanna HARVEY > Source: FHL Film 1042970 > Dates: 1709 - 1801 > > CHRISTIE > William > Christening > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 23 Jun 1772 > Christening Date: 28 Jun 1772 > Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland > Father: John CHRISTIE > Mother: Susanna HARVY > Source: FHL Film 1042970 > Dates: 1709 - 1801 > > CHRISTIE > Thomas > Christening > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 2 Apr 1774 > Christening Date: 3 Apr 1774 > Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland > Father: John CHRISTIE > Mother: Suanna HARVIE > Source: FHL Film 1042970 > Dates: 1709 - 1801 > ---------- > Could not find any other info on above family > > Bob > Cdn > ==================== > On 23/07/2010 5:07 PM, Janice Doughty wrote:<SNIP>..John Harvie CHRISTIE > was the son of John CHRYSTIE (CHRISTIE) and Susan (Susannah) HARVIE > (HARVEY). John and Susan married in Glasgow, Lanarkshire on 26th > January, 1766. Thier eldest son John Harvie CHRISTIE was born on 26th > March 1768 in Carnath. > ====================== > > John Harvie CHRISTIE was the son of John CHRYSTIE > (CHRISTIE) and Susan (Susannah) HARVIE (HARVEY). John and Susan married > in > Glasgow, Lanarkshire on 26th January, 1766. Thier eldest son John > Harvie > CHRISTIE was born on 26th March 1768 in Carnath. > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Just a follow up on this subject, I have both of these census ' and as far as I am concerned they are invaluable. The can be purchased (very reasonable) from the Lanarkshire Family History Society. My question is this however. The Church of Scotland directed their clergy to take these census'. Evidently some did some did not. Some were destroyed and some were not. Some are in private collections some are not. SOME ARE PUBLIC, SOME ARE NOT! It would be very helpful for the study of Scottish genealogy if we had a list of the 1821 and 1783 census records that are actually available. I do apologize that this question goes beyond the borders of Lanarkshire however does such a list exist and if so where. Thank you Frank Easton Sherwood Park, +24c

Hi: Just clipped the attached from my records on Lanark, sent by someone. May help. Frank Easton there's an entry which mentions a plan of the estate that included Woodyett in scotlandsplaces.gov.uk http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=NAS <http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=NAS&id=RHP3 257> &id=RHP3257 if you go to this site: http://geo.nls.uk/os6inch/google.html click on map, follow the earlier posted directions and when zoomed in reasonably close click on historic, you should then easily find a much older map of the area, you can then switch to satellite to see (if you're lucky) the area as it is now for further background on the general area you could try the statistical accounts but you'll need to know the name of the relevant parish: http://edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/ to then locate lesmahago (there's an entry in the earlier 1790s account as well) http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/link/1834-45/Lanark/Lesmahago/6/30/ Hope that helps n.b. if searching scotlandsplaces it's best to double-check you're in the right part of the country, there's more than one woodyett

Hi Margaret Just to confirm that there is an 1821 and indeed a 1783 census for Lesmahagow. 1821 census Entry no 209 William Weir at Woodyet with wife "M Sewers " 5 males and 5 females living at that abode. In the 1783 census there is a John Leuars and Jean Scot living at Burn. Hope this helps Robyn

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Hi Judith, I'm going to Park Circus Records Office in Glasgow on Wednesday 4th. If no-one is able to do this any earlier, I'll look for you then. I'll get more info from you nearer the time, if you need me to do the look-up. Contact me again if you need this (have a shocking memory!) Regards, Stuart > From: judith.bn@bigpond.com > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:24:13 +0930 > Subject: [Lanark] Anyone do a GRO Look up please? Need Brick Wall help! > > Hi Listers, > > Could some kind lister going to the GRO do me a big favour > and check for details on the two following GRO index listings > please? Hopefully the two Patersons are sisters. Any help > very much appreciated. > Regards > Judith > > 1936 BIRRELL, WILLIAM, PATERSON, ELIZABETH MORAG, RUTHERGLEN, GLASGOW/LANARK > 654/00 0029 > > > > 1940 CLARK, ANDREW MELVILLE, PATERSON, ENA RUSSELL, TOWNHEAD, GLASGOW/LANARK > 644/06 0206 > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5311 (20100725) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Thanks to all of you who responded re the above couple. When the census says 5 males & 5 females do those numbers include the parents? Are they named at all? What kind of informatin does the 1783 Baptismal census actually show? I have found the marriage of William WEIR & Mary LEWARS as well as that of John LEUARS & Jean SCOTT & the death of William at Scotland's People although that doesn't necessarily tie them to us! As far as William's parents go, I have "found" James WEIR & Jean MARSHALL although I'm not sure these are accurate. If they were to follow the naming pattern James was not the first boy but John.... Ididn't think those names were interchangeable?? Margaret PS. Nivard..not sure how you received first message but I did send it in plain text.

Hi Margaret Yes there is a surviving 1821 census for Lesmahagow <http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/acatalog/Lanarkshire___1821_Census.html> There is also a 1783 baptismal census for Lesmahagow from the same source Both would be worth getting Your WEIR entry William WEIR (spouse) M SEWERS (address) Woodyet (Males) 5 (females) 5 The address is also used for another family of James HUTCHESON There is no mention of "Farm" in 1821 or occupation so you perhaps got that from another source, baptisms perhaps? You might also take a look at http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/ Where you will find the 1798 Horse tax Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS its always best to post only in plain text > Hi List, > > This is the first time I have posted to your list... > > Donâ?Tt know if you will be able to help or not. > > I am finally getting back to my husbandâ?Ts side of the family after > working > on mine for several years and am at a brick wall. > > My William WEIR married Mary LEWARS 19 Apr 1794 in Lesmahagow.

Has anyone had any success in getting records (bmd) referring to Ceylon (Sri Lanka) of the early 1800s-1850s? Not sure where to turn and happy for tips. My hunt refers to Mary Campbell census records have her as 'naturalised British citizen' born about 1834 in Ceylon, daughter of William Campbell (marriage certificate details refer to William as being in Army, no further details known) married Edward Ward (son of William Ward, Gentlemen, Edward was born in Newington, Surrey). Any help would be much appreciated, Louise

Hi Listers, Could some kind lister going to the GRO do me a big favour and check for details on the two following GRO index listings please? Hopefully the two Patersons are sisters. Any help very much appreciated. Regards Judith 1936 BIRRELL, WILLIAM, PATERSON, ELIZABETH MORAG, RUTHERGLEN, GLASGOW/LANARK 654/00 0029 1940 CLARK, ANDREW MELVILLE, PATERSON, ENA RUSSELL, TOWNHEAD, GLASGOW/LANARK 644/06 0206 __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5311 (20100725) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Thanks for that. So where is the census located? In Edinburgh or a local site? Margaret > Woodyett...someone else was looking for this a year or so ago. Its about > 2miles NW of Lanark (town). Yes there is a 1821 Census for Lesmahagow but > its not available online. > > Don > >

I GOOGLED .. Scarborough Settlement+Weir...and there was an entry in GOOGLE BOOKS. ~~~~~~~ Genealogy..another persons tree...Maybe yours ? http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/l/b/Mary-A-Alber/index.html?cj=1&o_xid=0002530104&o_lid=0002530104 ~~~~~~~~~~~ Scarborough was called GLASGOW before Elizabeth Simcoe changed the name. :o) ~~~~~~~~ This is what I found..Death may be an error..not as your date ```` Name: William Weir Gender: Male Birth: 29 January 1769 Carnwath, Lanarkshire, Scotland Death: 8 May 1864 Scarborough Settlement, York, Ontario Burial: St. Andrews Church Cem, Scarboro, York Co Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada ~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg Thompson" <margthom@xcelco.on.ca> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 3:36 PM Subject: [Lanark] WEIR,LEWARS > > Hi List, > > This is the first time I have posted to your list... > > Don’t know if you will be able to help or not. > > I am finally getting back to my husband’s side of the family after working > on mine for several years and am at a brick wall. > > My William WEIR married Mary LEWARS 19 Apr 1794 in Lesmahagow. > > I think William died 13 Aug 1827 and is buried at Linmill. > > Any and all help will be appreciated. > > Margaret > > In Ontario, Canada > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >