In a message dated 8/29/2010 8:05:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lafinken@aol.com writes: If you want the name looked up let me know. Ancestry.com has addresses for people. Can you send a link to that area? Thanks Jeanne

How does a person look up names on Ancestry? I am rather new at using the computer & various sites. Thanks, Valerie > If you want the name looked up let me know. > Ancestry.com has addresses for people. > > > Can you send a link to that area? > > Thanks > Jeanne > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > >

If you want the name looked up let me know. Ancestry.com has addresses for people. I was surprised to see how many addresses it had for my own family over the last 15 years. Even with all the moves. ----- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Lowson" <trauts23@live.co.uk> > To: "Lanark Rootsweb" <lanark@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 7:59 PM > Subject: [Lanark] Information about New York > > > > > > Do we have any members in New York who could help me with tracing someone > > who emigrated to the USA and used a PO Box in New York for mail. I have a > > PO Box no and Address but it's quite old and I'm wondering how to check it > > out and find any newer address? Any advice would be much appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > Stuart Lowson > > > > > > ------------------------------- > >

Thanks for that suggestion Sue. The emigration to the USA took place in 1984/85 so I would imagine that immigration proceedures were carried out an an airport. Do you know if it possible to access this type of record? Regards, Stuart > From: smrcus@verizon.net > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:05:01 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Information about New York > > If Ellis Island was the landing point, you could check > who was on the ship manifest as the contact in the USA. > Of course, immigration would have to have been after 1892. Website is > ellisisland.org > > Sue Marcus > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Lowson" <trauts23@live.co.uk> > To: "Lanark Rootsweb" <lanark@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 7:59 PM > Subject: [Lanark] Information about New York > > > > > > Do we have any members in New York who could help me with tracing someone > > who emigrated to the USA and used a PO Box in New York for mail. I have a > > PO Box no and Address but it's quite old and I'm wondering how to check it > > out and find any newer address? Any advice would be much appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > Stuart Lowson > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > > message before you post any reply > > > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > > to the list information page online: > > > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If Ellis Island was the landing point, you could check who was on the ship manifest as the contact in the USA. Of course, immigration would have to have been after 1892. Website is ellisisland.org Sue Marcus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Lowson" <trauts23@live.co.uk> To: "Lanark Rootsweb" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 7:59 PM Subject: [Lanark] Information about New York > > Do we have any members in New York who could help me with tracing someone > who emigrated to the USA and used a PO Box in New York for mail. I have a > PO Box no and Address but it's quite old and I'm wondering how to check it > out and find any newer address? Any advice would be much appreciated. > > Regards, > > Stuart Lowson > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Do we have any members in New York who could help me with tracing someone who emigrated to the USA and used a PO Box in New York for mail. I have a PO Box no and Address but it's quite old and I'm wondering how to check it out and find any newer address? Any advice would be much appreciated. Regards, Stuart Lowson

Would that be New York City or New York State? Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: <TwoSides22@aol.com> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Information about New York > > > > In a message dated 8/27/2010 8:00:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > trauts23@live.co.uk writes: > > > Do we have any members in New York who could help me with tracing someone > > Regards, > > Stuart Lowson > > > > Hi Stuart, I'm in New York and would be happy to help. > > Jeanne > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 8/27/2010 8:00:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, trauts23@live.co.uk writes: Do we have any members in New York who could help me with tracing someone Regards, Stuart Lowson Hi Stuart, I'm in New York and would be happy to help. Jeanne

A quest ion on the 24 yr James McKie does it state his birthplace and occupation? He follows after Robert MacKay in the entry. Thanks Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 10:17 am Subject: Re: [Lanark] 1881, census -McKie Here are two 1881 entries to look at. Bob Cdn. ------------------------- Dwelling: 3 Swing Pump Lane Census Place: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Source: FHL Film 1342251 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5185 Folio 42 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert MCKIE M 64 M Bangor, Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Labourer Genl Jane MCKIE M 62 F Armagh, Ireland Rel: Wife Occ: Labourers Wife -------------------------- Dwelling: Hill St Livingstone Square Census Place: Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203621 GRO Ref Volume 628 EnumDist 16 Page 20 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Eliz. BROWN W 38 F Ireland Rel: Head Agnes B. BROWN 10 F Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Eliz. BROWN 8 F Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Chas. BROWN 5 M Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Robt. BROWN 2 M Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Martha MACKIE U 23 F Morningside, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Gen Serv (Dom) Robt. MACKIE U 62 M Ireland Rel: Visitor Occ: Labourer Jas. MC KIE U 24 M ======================== On 25/08/2010 6:54 AM, lafinken@aol.com wrote: <SNIP>...Can anyone find this man in 1881, 1891, 1901??? Robert MacKay, born 1820 in Naghill, Ireland spouse Jane died in 1868 in Cambusnethan, ... ====================== ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks the Brown and Mackie family for sure. Thanks. Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 10:17 am Subject: Re: [Lanark] 1881, census -McKie Here are two 1881 entries to look at. Bob Cdn. ------------------------- Dwelling: 3 Swing Pump Lane Census Place: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Source: FHL Film 1342251 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5185 Folio 42 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert MCKIE M 64 M Bangor, Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Labourer Genl Jane MCKIE M 62 F Armagh, Ireland Rel: Wife Occ: Labourers Wife -------------------------- Dwelling: Hill St Livingstone Square Census Place: Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203621 GRO Ref Volume 628 EnumDist 16 Page 20 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Eliz. BROWN W 38 F Ireland Rel: Head Agnes B. BROWN 10 F Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Eliz. BROWN 8 F Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Chas. BROWN 5 M Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Robt. BROWN 2 M Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Martha MACKIE U 23 F Morningside, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Gen Serv (Dom) Robt. MACKIE U 62 M Ireland Rel: Visitor Occ: Labourer Jas. MC KIE U 24 M ======================== On 25/08/2010 6:54 AM, lafinken@aol.com wrote: <SNIP>...Can anyone find this man in 1881, 1891, 1901??? Robert MacKay, born 1820 in Naghill, Ireland spouse Jane died in 1868 in Cambusnethan, ... ====================== ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone find this man in 1881, 1891, 1901??? Robert MacKay, born 1820 in Naghill, Ireland spouse Jane died in 1868 in Cambusnethan, He was in 1851 and 1861 with wife Jane and family at Davies Dykes, Cambusnethan. He was living with his daughter's family below in 1871 Taken from Ancestry.com (laf) 1871 Census Lanarkshire, Civil Parish: Carluke, Address: Blueknoles ED 4 Roll: CSSCT1871_120 Household No. 13 Robert MacKay age 50 listed as Boarder Alexander Rennick age 25 Mary Rennick age 21 Thomas Rennick age 2 I believe at least one more census he was with his daughter again. I believe he was still alive for the 1901 census. Thanks if you have ancestry.com International version and provide this info. Lindsey

Any Mackie MacKay researchers out there. Mary3 SMITH (Elizabeth (or Bannatyne)2 BALLANTYNE, Adam1) was born 22 Sep 1837 in Carnwath, Lanark,Scotland. She married Thomas MACKIE 13 Dec 1861 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. He was born 1840 in Ireland. More About Thomas MACKIE: Occupation: Apr 1881, Engine keeepr at Wilsons Rows, Carluke, Lanark, Scotland More About Thomas MACKIE and Mary SMITH: Marriage: 13 Dec 1861, Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Children of Mary SMITH and Thomas MACKIE are: 16 i. Elizabeth4 MACKIE, born 09 Apr 1862 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland; died Jun 1863 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. 17 ii. Robert MACKIE, born 04 Oct 1863 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. 18 iii. James MACKIE, born 21 Nov 1865 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland; died Nov 1891 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. 19 iv. Jane MACKIE, born 22 Oct 1867 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. 20 v. Martha MACKIE, born 1870 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland. 21 vi. Thomas MACKIE, born 1872 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland. 22 vii. John MACKIE, born 1874 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland. 23 viii. Charles MACKIE, born 1877 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland. 24 ix. Andrew MACKIE, born 1879 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland.

This is all that shows in the file: Maybe a look at the actual entry via Scotland People will show more but unlikely Bob Cdn ================ Dwelling: Hill St Livingstone Square Census Place: Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203621 GRO Ref Volume 628 EnumDist 16 Page 20 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Eliz. BROWN W 38 F Ireland Rel: Head Agnes B. BROWN 10 F Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Eliz. BROWN 8 F Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Chas. BROWN 5 M Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Robt. BROWN 2 M Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Martha MACKIE U 23 F Morningside, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Gen Serv (Dom) Robt. MACKIE U 62 M Ireland Rel: Visitor Occ: Labourer Jas. MC KIE U 24 M Rel: Lodger Occ: Miner =============================== On 25/08/2010 8:26 AM, lafinken@aol.com wrote: <SNIP>... A quest ion on the 24 yr James McKiedoes it state his birthplace and occupation? He follows after Robert MacKay in the entry. ================================ >

Here are two 1881 entries to look at. Bob Cdn. ------------------------- Dwelling: 3 Swing Pump Lane Census Place: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Source: FHL Film 1342251 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5185 Folio 42 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert MCKIE M 64 M Bangor, Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Labourer Genl Jane MCKIE M 62 F Armagh, Ireland Rel: Wife Occ: Labourers Wife -------------------------- Dwelling: Hill St Livingstone Square Census Place: Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203621 GRO Ref Volume 628 EnumDist 16 Page 20 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Eliz. BROWN W 38 F Ireland Rel: Head Agnes B. BROWN 10 F Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Eliz. BROWN 8 F Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Chas. BROWN 5 M Law, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Robt. BROWN 2 M Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Martha MACKIE U 23 F Morningside, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Gen Serv (Dom) Robt. MACKIE U 62 M Ireland Rel: Visitor Occ: Labourer Jas. MC KIE U 24 M ======================== On 25/08/2010 6:54 AM, lafinken@aol.com wrote: <SNIP>...Can anyone find this man in 1881, 1891, 1901??? Robert MacKay, born 1820 in Naghill, Ireland spouse Jane died in 1868 in Cambusnethan, ... ======================

Hi, I'm afraid the mentioned "crime" was classed as treason in the first world war and if proven (as to the deliberateness of the act) a firing squad would be the last thing that person would ever see, The fact that he received a pension suggests that although he may have been charged with deliberate self-damage, the court martial resolved the issue in the "not proven" category. This finding happened more frequently as the war advanced, the toll increased, and the word "cowardice" was stricken from the operational vocabulary and replaced with "shell-shocked". Poor bastards! Your great grandfather was a lucky man I'd say. Best regards, Alastair. Judith wrote: > Hi Julie, > > I wouldn't have thought so. If found guilty he would have had a > dishonourable discharge > which would make him ineligible for a service pension. What do his > discharge papers > say? > > Regards > Judith > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie Tyrell" <julie.zylon@btinternet.com> > To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 7:31 PM > Subject: [Lanark] WW1 question > > > HI > > I wonder if there is anybody who could answer my question. > > I have obtained my g.grandfather's WW1 service record and he was sent for > Court Martial for deliberately blowing off his own hand with a grenade. He > was later given a war pension. > It does not say in his records if he was found innocent or guilty. Would a > soldier still get a pension if they were found guilty? > > Any thoughts on this matter, > many thanks Julie > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5391 (20100823) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3088 - Release Date: 08/22/10 18:35:00 > >

Hi Julie, I wouldn't have thought so. If found guilty he would have had a dishonourable discharge which would make him ineligible for a service pension. What do his discharge papers say? Regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Tyrell" <julie.zylon@btinternet.com> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 7:31 PM Subject: [Lanark] WW1 question HI I wonder if there is anybody who could answer my question. I have obtained my g.grandfather's WW1 service record and he was sent for Court Martial for deliberately blowing off his own hand with a grenade. He was later given a war pension. It does not say in his records if he was found innocent or guilty. Would a soldier still get a pension if they were found guilty? Any thoughts on this matter, many thanks Julie __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5391 (20100823) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Hi Bob, The reason I asked where your man was based in Poland is that my late father, a Paisley man, worked in the textile industry all over Europe in the 1930s and was in Lodz until about 4 weeks before the start of WW2. He used to talk of an Englishman there who officially ran a language school and translation service, but appeared to operate as a quasi-official vice-consul, and who made it his business to know all UK ex-pats living in the Lodz area and how to contact them. There were some other Scots there in 1939 setting up a thread mill for J&P Coats, the large Scottish-based international thread manufacturer. When the Germans attacked Poland, the language teacher rounded up all the UK citizens in the Lodz area and tried to lead them northwards to Danzig in order to escape to neutral Sweden. They were thwarted by the speed of the German advance and turned south. They made their way across country in buses, trains etc behind the German advance in Southern Poland, then traversed eastern Czechoslovakia, northern Hungary and Romania before getting out by ship from Constanza via Istanbul to Alexandria and thence back to UK via Gibraltar. It would appear that the language teacher had funds beyond the reach of a humble translator, as he arranged fares etc for the whole party. I know my father wouldn't have mistaken a Scotsman for an Englishman, so it's clear that the man in Lodz wasn't your JCW, but I wonder how many such people acted as local vice-consuls in areas overrun by the Nazis in 1939, and whether JCW had an equally hair-raising escape from Poland. Regards, Ken Mathieson ---- Original Message ----- From: <mail4winning@aol.co.uk> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Vice Consul to Poland > > Hi Ken, > >>From my reply to Nivard you will see what took James Cochrane Winning's >>parents to Russia. > > I have no idea where in Poland JCW was based. I only know that it was > stated in the court case that he was a Vice Consul for the UK to Poland. > > Bob > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3089 - Release Date: 08/23/10 07:35:00

The movie, A Very Long Engagement, with Audrey Tautou addresses the issue of self inflicted injuries in WWI. It's a great film and there are subtitles. M:) On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Julie Tyrell wrote: HI I wonder if there is anybody who could answer my question. I have obtained my g.grandfather's WW1 service record and he was sent for Court Martial for deliberately blowing off his own hand with a grenade. He was later given a war pension. It does not say in his records if he was found innocent or guilty. Would a soldier still get a pension if they were found guilty? Any thoughts on this matter, many thanks Julie ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com ; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ken, Bob will correct me if I am wrong but as the Winning family were a well known Glasgow family who were in mining amongst other things, 2 Winning brothers went to Russia (now part of Belarus) where they developed mining interests. Bob and I are distant cousins, being part Winning myself. Regards, Mark -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken Mathieson Sent: 23 August 2010 17:30 To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Vice Consul to Poland Hi Bob et al, It would be interesting to know what took JCW's parents to Melitopol in Eastern Ukraine in 1892. There may have been a Scottish connection to the local engineering works. Around the same time, the Scottish thread maufacturers J&P Coats opened a huge thread mill near St Petersburg. From what little I know of the latter, the Tsarist Russian governemt had imposed huge tariffs on imported products in order to protect their own manufacturers, but the response of Coats and others like them was to open a Russian subsidairy and begin manufacturing there for the local market. Bob, do you know where JCW was based in Poland? Reagrds, Ken Mathieson ----- Original Message ----- From: <mail4winning@aol.co.uk> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Vice Consul to Poland > > Hi Nivard, > > Yes the person is deceased and his name was James Cochrane Winning. > > He was born in Melitopol in Russia on 1st oct 1892 to Scottish parents. > > I have him on shipping lists travelling from Yokohama, Japan to Vancouver > then New York to Liverpool in 1918 (age 25) on his way back to Glasgow. > From the shipping lists it would appear that he has married and he is > travelling with his wife Lillian (surname unknown) who is English. He was > able to read and write Russian. > > The next I have him is September 1945 when he was seriously injured in the > Bourne End Rail Disater, Herts. > He was enroute to Germany to take up a position with the Allied Control > Commission in Germany as a Technical assistant in the timber department. > He sued the railway company for damages and in the court papers it states > he left Poland in September 1939 where he had operated a Timber Merchant > business with assets of £120,000. It also stated in the court papers that > he was Vice Consul to Poland for the UK. > > I have tried The National Archives but I just can't seem to find anything > relating to consular staff to verify when and how long he was in Poland. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:24 > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Vice Consul to Poland > > > Hi Bob > Assuming the person is deceased, a name may help > They would surely warrant a mention in the newspapers or Gazettes and may > ppear on passenger lists > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3089 - Release Date: 08/23/10 07:35:00 ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob An elusive chap it seems I take it you are sure the 1925 sailing is definitely he? He is listed as an Engineer not Timber Merchant The only thing I could find regarding the name is :- (from the London Gazette) Gazette Issue 42979 published on the 26 April 1963. Page 80 of 104 WINNING James Cochrane Address The Holm, Station Road, Woldingham, Surrey Mining Engineer (Retired) (died) 17th February 1963 Travers Smith Braithwaite & Co, 4 Throgmorton Avenue, London EC2, Solicitors (National Commercial Bank of Scotland Limited) Claims by 1st July 1963 Which does tally age wise with yours Name: James C Winning Death Registration Month/Year: 1963 Age at death (estimated): 70 Registration district: Surrey South Eastern Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 6g Page: 1294 Is this your man? I could not see anything in the Times or Guardian / Observer Or Who's Who (and Who was Who) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Hi Nivard, > > Yes the person is deceased and his name was James Cochrane Winning. > > He was born in Melitopol in Russia on 1st oct 1892 to Scottish parents. > > I have him on shipping lists travelling from Yokohama, Japan to Vancouver > then New York to Liverpool in 1918 (age 25) on his way back to Glasgow. > From the shipping lists it would appear that he has married and he is > travelling with his wife Lillian (surname unknown) who is English. He was > able to read and write Russian. > > The next I have him is September 1945 when he was seriously injured in the > Bourne End Rail Disater, Herts. > He was enroute to Germany to take up a position with the Allied Control > Commission in Germany as a Technical assistant in the timber department. > He sued the railway company for damages and in the court papers it states > he left Poland in September 1939 where he had operated a Timber Merchant > business with assets of £120,000. It also stated in the court papers that > he was Vice Consul to Poland for the UK. > > I have tried The National Archives but I just can't seem to find anything > relating to consular staff to verify when and how long he was in Poland.