Hi Rosemary, I was on holiday when you sent you message to the LKS List & haven't got round to putting in my bit till now. My 3xgt-grandfather, James CUTHBERTSON, seems to have owned 2 or 3 properties in Kaimend, according to the inventory after his death in 1880, as he received rent from two houses and the Sunday School. I'm afraid I don't really know more than that. I do have a Helen BAIRD further back in my ancestry thereabouts; also a Marion MARTIN. If your SMITHs tie in with CUTHBERTSON or TENNANT at all, I may be able to help. Best wishes, Sheena Ireland -----Original Message----- Hello Listers I'm trying to trace the family history of a 90 year-old aunt whose father & grandfather were both named Thomas GRAHAM. Generations of her family lived in Carnwath & Kaimend (which had various spellings in the censuses over the decades). Please can anyone tell me more about these places - was Kaimend a hamlet? As I'm in Western Australia I have no concept of the geography of these places. I've trawled the IGI & purchased some death certificates from the GRO, but does anyone have access to PR's, burial records or monumental inscriptions for Carnwath? Related families that lived in that village were GRAHAM, KIDD, BAIRD, SMITH. I'm also interested in THOMSONs from Walston (this aunt has a Sampler worked in 1809 by her great grandmother Elizabeth THOMPSON, daughter of Thomas & Margaret nee DEANS or DEON.) Thankyou in hope Rosemary

Hi all, first time posting in this newsgroup. With the help of my cousin in Fife we've traced our MAXWELL ancestors back to Glasgow: John MAXWELL (1699-, Glasgow) m Jenet Wark | John MAXWELL (1721-, Glasgow) m Janet Brown | Andrew MAXWELL (1748-1781, Glasgow) m Mary Wodrow (1745-1781) | William MAXWELL (1779-1847, Glasgow) m. 1 Agnes Black in Glasgow m. 2 Elizabeth Inglis in Cults, Fife seeking any connections. Anyone seen these names, especially in connection with the MAXWELLs of Pollock? Stephen Maxwell

Hi Alastair, Simple answer - yes. Listname: ayrshire To Post: mailto:ayrshire-L@rootsweb.com To Unsubscribe: mailto:ayrshire-l-request@rootsweb.com Good luck Pat -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Macdonald Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2010 9:35 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Lanarkshire to Ayrshire. Greetings fellow Lanarkite Listers, Because Lanark backs onto Ayrshire, and some of my lot have crossed over (the border that is), can anyone tell me if they have an Ayrshire List site? Many thanks for your anticipated responses. Alastair Macdonald Brisbane, Australia. ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/ LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings fellow Lanarkite Listers, Because Lanark backs onto Ayrshire, and some of my lot have crossed over (the border that is), can anyone tell me if they have an Ayrshire List site? Many thanks for your anticipated responses. Alastair Macdonald Brisbane, Australia.

Thank you to all the kind people who replied. I think I will try the 14 day free trial. Thank you every one Margaret Ontario Subject: Ancestry Does anyone use Ancestry U.K.?? Any thoughts on it.?  Is there much Scottish information? Thanks Margaret Ont

Hi Margaret One of the main things for Scotland on Ancestry is the 1841 to 1901 census transcription (images are not allowed by the powers that be in Scotland) Its transcription is a tad wavy at times but the search engine more than makes up for it as its fully transcribed which allows say all those named BARR living in a XXXX Street for example or all Blacksmiths in Renfrewshire Using the transcription you can usually find and track your people through the census years, then use that to obtain the census images from SP (I would always advocate obtaining the images as there are usually extra details at the very least) However there are many more avenues to explore such as the Probate Calendars 1861 to 1941, although its the National Probate Calendars for England and Wales there are many Scots who died with assets in England (a simple search for Scotland gets over 109,000 hits, many of which will be people who died in Scotland but there are many Scots listed too) For example my g.g.grandfather who lived and died in Scotland is listed as follows SMITH Alexander William (commonly known as Alexander) 29th August 1891 The confirmation of the Commisariot of Renfrew dated 19 August 1891 of David Smith the son and Thomas Struthers Smith the Nephew as surviving Executors Nominate of Alexander William Smith commonly known as Alexander Smith Merchant of Crofthead House Langside near Glasgow who died at Langside 14 July 1891 Sealed. (I already had his death and will from Scotland but if I had not it would be very useful information) Some of Ancestrys databases need a little coaxing out like the trade directories , for Scotland they have the following Directory * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Central * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Central East * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Combined * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Highlands * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Southern * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Southern Highlands * 1837 Pigots National Commercial Directory * 1870 Post Office Directory of Glasgow * 1893 Slaters Directory of Edinburgh and Glasgow * 1893 Slaters Directory of Scottish Counties * 1921 Slaters Directory of Scottish Counties * 1925 Post Office Directory of Aberdeen * 1893 Slaters Directory of Edinburgh and Glasgow * 1893 Slaters Directory of Scottish Counties * 1921 Slaters Directory of Scottish Counties * 1925 Post Office Directory of Aberdeen Then there are the various Criminals databases , many Scots are recorded Then there are the Military records which record many Scots in the British Army (medals, service records etc) And the list goes on I would suggest a trial (either a 14 day free one or use a Library that has it) and see what you find If you enter Ancestry and select card catalogue from the Search menu, enter Scotland and you will see there are many more databases that may be of interest As with any online data supplier, it will suit some more than others Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Does anyone use Ancestry U.K.?? Any thoughts on it.? Is there much Scottish information? Thanks Margaret Ont

Hi all, I am looking for information on the children of Hugh and Effie Graham. 1901 Census has Address 150 Windmillhill St, Motherwell, Lanarkshire. Children are/ were William 5 b Muirkirk, John 4 b Muirkirk, Hugh 2 b Motherwell and Effie 9 mths b Motherwell. Their grandparents were Annie (nee Campbell d/o John Campbell and Mary Lennox) and William Graham. If anyone is researching this family or can give me more information I really would appreciate it. Cheers Chris OZ

Yes and No!! Chris in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret McNab" <margmcnab@rogers.com> To: "Newsgroup Lanarkshire" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: [Lanark] Ancestry > Does anyone use Ancestry U.K.?? > Any thoughts on it.? Is there much Scottish information? > Thanks > > Margaret Ont > > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Alastair See http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AYRSHIRE Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Macdonald" <alectts@optusnet.com.au> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:35 PM Subject: [Lanark] Lanarkshire to Ayrshire. > Greetings fellow Lanarkite Listers, > > Because Lanark backs onto Ayrshire, and some of my lot have crossed over > (the border that is), can anyone tell me if they have an Ayrshire List > site? > > Many thanks for your anticipated responses. > > Alastair Macdonald > Brisbane, Australia. >

Morning all, As Listowner of the Caithness List I ran a chat about Ancestry a few weeks ago when I took out the 2-week free trial. Frankly if your main areas of research are Scotland, I would try the free trial but probably then spend the £108 on 18 blocks of credits at Scotland's People. Ancestry does not have access to original images in Scotland found on Scotland's People and it is actually pretty hopeless for Scottish research earlier than the 1841 census. It does give access to the original images for the English Cenci from 1841 to 1901 and some baptism and marriage stuff for some parts of England, mainly London. It will give information on other English baptisms, deaths and marriages but no access to any actual original images and it doesn't have access to the original images for births, deaths or marriages in England from 1837 when they started in England. You can order up copies of the original certificates at Ancestry at almost £30 a go whereas ordering them directly from the English equivalent of New Register House costs just under £10 a go. Compared to Scotland's People where an original certificate can be downloaded for £2 and each search costs 40 pence per page of results, we are incredibly spoiled in Scotland. Where Ancestry is really good is for people in North America because being an American company, understandably it's main thrust is the American market. It also has a lot of stuff on WWI and other military things like the Napoleonic Wars. Since this is the Lanark list, obviously many of the people reading this email will have ancestors who migrated from Ireland to Scotland. The Ancestry stuff is not yet very good on Ireland. I haven't been able to trace any of my Irish ancestors on Ancestry yet but then mine all pre date 1800 and Ancestry doesn't really have much pre 1800 anywhere in the UK. I swithered but decided not to cancel my subscription because I have several lines of English ancestry starting with my main direct male line and within 3 or 4 days of being on Ancestry had identified 2 hitherto unknown generations in 2 lines down there. I appreciate others will have a very different opinion but as someone with no personal interest in North America or anyone who migrated to the USA, its vast amount of information on the USA is of absolutely no interest to me whatsoever. Regards, Mark -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ruth.enns@shaw.ca Sent: 28 September 2010 03:25 To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Ancestry I have been considering it, too. Thought about starting with the free 14 day 'come on' first. Ruth

> Does anyone use Ancestry U.K.?? No. I use Ancestry.com occasionally when I am in a library or similar where I can do so for free. > Any thoughts on it.? Is there much Scottish information? There is quite a bit of information, but little of it is original material. The indexes are useful for finding people in the census, but you can't view the originals. Also you can't access birth, marriage and death certificates for any part of the UK - only the indexes. Scotland's People is THE source for Scottish records. You can view actual images of the surviving original baptisms/banns/burials, the statutory civil certificates of birth, marriage and death to their respective cut-off dates, and of the census from 1841 to 1901. As you are going to have to view the originals anyway to verify them, there's not a lot of point in looking at Ancestry, apart from the census indexes. Before you look on Ancestry for the early census, check that the ones you want have not been transcribed on FreeCen. Anne

I have found it quite useful for building a Scottish family tree - but you will sometimes have to use Scottish records directly. Regards John in London >----Original Message---- >From: christineculling@optusnet.com.au >Date: 28/09/2010 5:47 >To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> >Subj: Re: [Lanark] Ancestry > >Yes and No!! >Chris in Melbourne >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Margaret McNab" <margmcnab@rogers.com> >To: "Newsgroup Lanarkshire" <lanark@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:06 AM >Subject: [Lanark] Ancestry > > >> Does anyone use Ancestry U.K.?? >> Any thoughts on it.? Is there much Scottish information? >> Thanks >> >> Margaret Ont >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST >> >> >> LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history >> information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. >> >> WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier >> message before you post any reply >> >> LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at >> lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information >> on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to >> help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link >> to the list information page online: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >------------------------------- > >LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > >LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > >WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply > >LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark- admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: > >http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have been considering it, too. Thought about starting with the free 14 day 'come on' first. Ruth -------------------------------------------------- From: "Margaret McNab" <margmcnab@rogers.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 6:06 PM To: "Newsgroup Lanarkshire" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Subject: [Lanark] Ancestry > Does anyone use Ancestry U.K.?? > Any thoughts on it.? Is there much Scottish information? > Thanks > > Margaret Ont > > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone use Ancestry U.K.?? Any thoughts on it.?  Is there much Scottish information? Thanks Margaret Ont

I was wandering if anyone is researching the Broadley family;;I have Robert Broadley born c1826 Ireland..Coal miner..died in a mine accident in 1869. Wife Sarah Born Ireland c1833.. Children Hanah born 8/5/1869 John born c1859 Mary born c1856 Robert born c1860 Ann born c1864 Sarah born 1866 Jane born c1863.. All born and living Cambusnethan ... Many thanks Mary OZ

Featured in the Sunday Paper some of the listers might be interested in these "How it was" books. Notes on everyday life in Glasgow between 1913 and 1933. The diaries of Thomas Cairns Livingstone. Tommy's War Tommy's Peace billy

Hi Jeanne, I have no connection to the Liddle Family but your post did ring some bells. Years ago I had been looking into the Wilsons of Wilsontown fame for a genealogical project and came across a Liddle connection. Turns out I have an extensive folder (long forgotten) on the Liddle's of Gress Farm, Isle of Lewis to Nampa, Idaho, USA. Maybe you better contact me direct ;-) Regards billy

Hoping someone maybe able to help with finding information on Mary McFadyen, born 30 July 1800 to John and Sarah Lawson. Mary was the first of at least 6 children for his couple. I know of a brother, Joseph and two sisters, Rachel and Margaret. Any and all help and guidance is appreciated. Russ Miller _RBGolfclub@Aol.com_ (mailto:RBGolfclub@Aol.com)

Page 82 1812 George Campbell coalier at Shotts Iron Works and Elisabeth Russell his Spouse had a Daughter born there on the first day of October and Baptized the 1st Novemr and Named Margaret Murray Campbell 1812 William Reside coalier at Shotts Iron Works and Agnes McLaren his Spouse had a Daughter born there on the nineteenth day of October & baptized the 1st Novemr and Named Margaret Reside 1812 John Cleland in Easterhill of Murdoston and Isobel Bell Spouse had a Daur born there upon the second day of October and Baptized the 26 same Month, and Named Isobel Cleland 1812 John Cullen farmer in Longbyres & Elisabeth Young Spouse had a Son born there upon the 19th day of October and Baptized the 9th Novr and Named John Cullen 1812 Matthew Cleland farmer & Millar Gartness Miln & Helen Wallace Spouse had a Son born there upon the Second day of February and Baptized and Named Robert Cleland 1812 Alexr McNab turner at Shotts Iron Works and Helen Ferguson his Spouse had a Daughter born there on the tenth day of August and Baptized the 23 of that Month and Named Mary McNab 1812 William Johnstone coalmaster residing at Cairniemount and Elisabeth Sawers Spouse had twins born there on the Twenty fourth day of May the first born a Daughter and the last born a Son and Baptized The Son Named Thomas Johnstone The Daughter Named Margaret Johnstone 1812 Alexander Anderson mason residing at Barblues & Janet Hill Spouse had a Daughter born there upon Monday the nineteenth day of October & Baptized the 22 Novr and Named Agnes Anderson 1812 Alexander Walker tenant in Shield hill and Isobel Graham Spouse had a Son born there on the first day of October and baptized the 22 Novemr and Named William Walker Page 83 1812 William Dewars residing at Overtown of Blairmucks or Harthill and Margaret Brodie Spouse had a (blank) born there upon the Twenty fifth day of September and Baptized upon the (blank) day of January 1813 and Named (blank) 1812 John Baird esqr Managing Partnr of Shotts Iron Works and Mrs Mary Murray Spouse had a Daughter born there upon Friday the Twenty fifth day of December and Baptized upon Monday the 18th January 1813 and Named Margaret Mary Baird 1812 John Marshall tenant in Glebe of Wester Calderhead and Janet Gibb Spouse had a Son born there upon the Twenty day of Septr and baptized and Named David Marshall 1813 Gavin Paterson carter Omoa Foundry and Margaret Lindsay Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the Eighth 8th day of Feby & Baptized the 11th March & Named Martha Paterson 1813 Alexander McCarter farmer in Castlehill Lands of Murdoston and Agnes Millar Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the 8th day of March and baptized and Named Isobel McCarter 1813 John Reid labourer Omoa Iron Works and Ann Cuthbertson Spouse had a Son born there upon the fourth day of March and baptized here on the 11th of that Month & Named Matthew Reid 1813 Mr Willm McGregor Clerk Omoa Iron Works 7 Mrs Grace Carmichael Spouse had a Son born there upon the Seventeenth day of February & Baptized the 28th March and Named James McGregor 1813 Gavin Pettigrew Changekeeper Ravens hall Inn and Jane Stirling Spouse had a Son born there upon the Eleventh day of Feby & Baptized here the 28th March and Named William Pettigrew Page 84 1813 Peter Danks coalier residing at Knownoble and Rebecca Waugh Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the Eighteenth day of Feby and Baptized upon the 28th March and Named Agnes Danks 1812 Henry Hunter coalier at Newarthill and Margaret Young Spouse had a son Born there upon the 11th December and Baptized here the 14th February 1813 and Named Arthur Hunter 1812 Mr Andrew Hotson craighead & Mrs Agnes Hamilton Spouse had a Son born there upon the twentieth day of December and Baptized by the Revd Mr Hamilton the 26th day of Feby 1813 and Named Thomas Hotson 1813 Archd Shearer farmer Little Harshaw and Ann Wilson Spouse had a Daughter born upon the 8th day of Feby, and Baptized the 28th same Month and named Christian Shearer 1812 James Calder carrier Shotts Iron Works and Margaret Turner Spouse had a Son born upon the Twenty Eighth day of October & Baptized and Named Thomas Calder 1813 Alexander Gardner farmer in Bowhouse and Mary Jack Spouse had a Son born there upon the Third day of March and Baptized upon the 21st of that Month and Named James Gardner 1813 John Craig coalier at Shotts and Agnes Baillie Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the fifteenth day of March and Baptized the 28th of that Month and Named Elisabeth Craig 1813 Niel McCallum weaver in Burn of Wester Moffat and Ann Reid Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the ninth day of March and Baptized the 2d May and Named Jane McCallum 1813 Robert Lowden farmer in Bente & Margaret King Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the twentieth day of Feby and Baptized and Named Barbara Lowden 1813 Alexander Ross and Agnes Marshall Spouse residing at Knowhead of Blairmuckhill had a Son born on the twenty ninth day of March and Baptized and Named Robert Ross

Page 19 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 72 Huletness William Murray Head Mar 46 Labourer Ireland Rose do Wife Do 29 Ayrshire Sorn Mary do Daug N 7 Lanark New Monkland John do Son 5 Do, do Ann do Daug 2 Do, do73 William Ford Head Mar 30 Labourer Iron works Portabella Eastloudens Elizabeth do Wife Do 27 Ireland Mary do Daug 9 Lanark Glasgow Ann do Do 7 Do, do Jane do Do 3 Do, do Rose do Do 1 Do, do Ellen Ford Lodger Mar 25 Greenock Andrew do Son 1 Do74 Craignuck William Robertson Head Mar 42 Horses on hire Lanark Bothwell Agnes do Wife Mar 46 Do, do Agnes do Daug U 22 Do, do John Robertson Son N 18 Wagon Driver Do, do Joseph Mallen Servant U 12 Do, do Do, do William Netman Do N 20 Do, do Do, doTotal of Houses I3 Total of Persons 8 11Page 20 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 75 Craignuck James Watherspoon Head Mar 57 Coal miner Lanark Dalzserth Barbara do Wife Do 27 Stirling Linlithgow George Gardner Lodger U 14 Coal Miner Lanark New MonklandEnd of District referred to in the first Page of this Book Total of Houses I1 Total of Persons 2 1