I sent a reply via the List dealing with your request for VRI info. I suspect the Admin has held it up since it was fairly long, it will come through in time. Bob Cdn ================== On 18/10/2010 9:20 AM, TwoSides22@aol.com wrote: > Emelia PURDIE (sister of John b. 1788), was born in Carnwath 1 January 1790 > to Andrew PURDIE and Janet CLELAND.

Jeanne, The BIVRI has the following to births/christenings Purdie/Clelland I think you ask a similar question in 2009 since I have a ref in my lookup notes but incase the question is new here is the data. Bob Cdn PURDIE, John Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 23 Jul 1788 Christening Date: 16 Aug 1788 Recorded in: Carnwath, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Andrew PURDIE Mother: Janet CLELAND Source: FHL Film 1042970 Dates: 1786 - 1790 PURDIE, Emelia Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 1 Jan 1790 Christening Date: 10 Jan 1790 Recorded in: Carnwath, Lanarkshire, ScotlandN Father: Andrew PURDIE Mother: Janet CLELAND Source: FHL Film 1042970 Dates: 1786 - 1790 -------------- PURDIE, Andrew Bir 1737 Scot Lana Carnwa Fa: John PURDIE Mo: Janet ELDER PURDIE, Andrew Bir 1762 Scot Lana Carnwa Fa: John PURDIE Mo: Janet BORDWOOD PURDIE, Andrew Bir 1766 Scot Lana Carnwa Fa: John PURDIE Mo: Janet BRAIDWOOD ---------------------- NAIRN William Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 7 Jul 1797 Christening Date: 9 Jul 1797 Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland Father: Thomas NAIRN Mother: Emelia PURDIE Source: FHL Film 1042970 Dates: 1792 - 1855 NAIRN Andrew Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 10 Jun 1801 Christening Date: 14 Jun 1801 Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland Father: Thomas NAIRN Mother: Emilia PURDIE Source: FHL Film 1042970 Dates: 1792 - 1855 NAIRN James Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 22 Apr 1803 Christening Date: 24 Apr 1803 Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland Father: Thomas NAIRN Mother: Emilia PURDIE Source: FHL Film 1042971 Dates: 1792 - 1855 NAIRN Margaret Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 27 Dec 1805 Christening Date: 5 Jan 1806 Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland Father: Thomas NAIRN Mother: Emilia PURDIE Source: FHL Film 1042971 Dates: 1792 - 1855 NAIRN Adam Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 20 Apr 1808 Christening Date: 24 Apr 1808 Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland Father: Thomas NAIRN Mother: Emilia PURDIE Source: FHL Film 1042971 Dates: 1792 - 1855 NAIRN Thomas Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 23 Apr 1812 Christening Date: 3 May 1812 Recorded in: Carnwath Lanarkshire Scotland Father: Thomas NAIRN Mother: Emilia PURDIE Source: FHL Film 1042971 Dates: 1792 - 1855 ============ On 18/10/2010 9:20 AM, TwoSides22@aol.com wrote: <SNIP>...Emelia PURDIE (sister of John b. 1788), was born in Carnwath 1 January 1790 to Andrew PURDIE and Janet CLELAND. ... ============

Thanks for the response Anne. Looking for possible descendants of John or any other siblings of HAYES. We have the information as posted but at present don't have copies of the actual certs. in our hands. And yes I know not to post on living persons, a rule I adhere to. If anyone had information on living relations I would hope their reply was privately to my email address. Regards Jenny

Hello All, I am trying to help a friend find any information or connection to the family of HAYES as below.... 1. Catherine Hayes (ms Cassells) unknown birth place Scotland/Ireland in the very early 1900s who lived up the end close of Carfin Street, Govanhill, prior to 1982. Catherine died 1982 age 82 Martha Street, Glasgow, she married in Govanhill 1932 to Henry Hayes. 2. John Joseph Hayes, son of the above, was born in 1934 Govanhill, died 1990 age 55 Martha Street, Glasgow. Married ?? Family ?? If anyone has access to a search facility for newpspers or newspaper indexes for this period and is able to provide a reference for a Funeral or Burial notice it would be very much appreciated. In appreciation, Jenny

> 1. Catherine Hayes (ms Cassells) unknown birth place > Scotland/Ireland in > the very early 1900s who lived up the end close of Carfin > Street, Govanhill, > prior to 1982. > Catherine died 1982 age 82 Martha Street, Glasgow, she married > in Govanhill > 1932 to Henry Hayes. If you have her marriage and death certificates, you must have the names of her parents? Or is it just her descendants you are trying to find? John Joseph's death certificate will tell you the name of his wife, if any, and may be signed by one of his children. Don't forget that posting information about living people isn't permitted on Rootsweb. Anne

Please, no more "test messages" to the list. If you want to see what posts have been sent, you can follow the link at the bottom of all list posts to the list archives. I thank you for your cooperation in this regard. David E. Cann lanark-admin@rootsweb.com Admin of the Lanarkshire, Scotland mailing list on RootsWeb List information: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html

Hi Bob I've also noticed it seems to dry up on a regular basis. Don't know if they are doing maintenance to the system or if everybody's just having a break :-) Best Regards Bob -----Original Message----- From: Bob <islay04@telus.net> To: Lanark <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 4:59 Subject: [Lanark] no list action ust a test to see if the list is still active Best regards. Bob _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Where am I going - - - - - - - - - and why am I in this handbasket All outgoing mail brought to you via UBUNTU Linux & Evolution ------------------------------ LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST IST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information ertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier essage before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or o search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or o obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, lease click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

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Hi, Regarding the recent postings on Pretts Mill a photograph has been published in today's Lanark Gazette of a family scene at the mill which shows; Bessie Clarkson b 188 later Mrs Lamb Ella later Mrs Ross Annie later Mrs William Galloway of Syde Tina, Alex m Cathie Lamb Maggie Jane later Mrs McAndrew The photograph is from a collection belonging to Charlie Todd Regards billy

I have a relative who was in Barlinnie in the 1901 census, and I would like to find out what crime he had committed. Would anyone know where that information is held? Hopefully on-line, as I live in Surrey! Many thanks edward Edward R Paxton

NAS try searching here http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue Some background on records etc., can be found here http://www.nas.gov.uk/guides/crime.asp Cheers!!! Don -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EDWARD PAXTON Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:24 PM To: Lanark Rootsweb Subject: [Lanark] Prison Records in Glasgow I have a relative who was in Barlinnie in the 1901 census, and I would like to find out what crime he had committed. Would anyone know where that information is held? Hopefully on-line, as I live in Surrey! Many thanks edward Edward R Paxton ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am doing this for a friend and am hoping to make a connection with anyone who may be related to: ALISTAIR MacDONALD who was born at 9:55pm on September 12th, 1928 in Gartloch Hospital. His parents where ERNEST MacDONALD a Railway Goods Guard and LILY (nee O'BRIEN) and lived at 599 Dalmarnock Road, Glasgow, who where married February 7th, 1917. His birth is registered in the Eastern District of Cadder, Extract #206. Thank you John, Pitt Meadows, BC, Canada

Andrew PURDIE b. 1766 and Janet CLELAND b. about 1764 had 2 children, John b.1788 and Emelia b.1790. On the birth record of nine of the ten children, grandmother Annipal is some variation of Annipal but on the record I just found for Thomas b. 1761 she is Emilia Annapale. Does this make it more likely that Andrew and Janet are cousins? Thanks. Jeanne

Dear Wilma I had a few spare credits to spend on Scotlands People. so no need for you to send payment. Glad to be of help. Elizabeth Hardie was 39 when she married Robert Porter, so I suppose there is always a chance that she and Robert didn't have any children. Any they did have would likely have been born within about 10 years of their marriage, and in Glasgow (where they were married and where Elizabeth died). 220 PORTER births were registered in all districts of Glasgow between 1925 and 1935. If you wanted to pursue that line you would probably have to hire a researcher to plough through these births in the Scottish archives in Edinburgh. Best wishes Rhoda

Hello Wilma I have found a few records that may help you in your search. Robert HARDIE, Agnes's brother, died at Loos, France on 25 September 1915. He has no known grave but is commemorated on Panel 108 to 112 on the Loos Memorial at Pas de Calais, northern France. He was a Private in the 12th Battalion, Highland Light Infantry. That information is found on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site at: http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1764677 His next of kin is named on the site as his sister, Mrs Elizabeth PORTER, of 135, North Street, Whiteinch, Scotstoun, Glasgow. Elizabeth McCarthur HARDIE married Robert Henry PORTER on 4 July 1925 at 21 Hope Street, Glasgow. Her parents, James HARDIE and Elizabeth MCINTOSH, were both deceased at the time of her marriage. (Eliz MCINTOSH died in Glasgow in 1901). Elizabeth McCarthur HARDIE died in Glasgow in 1948 aged 62. Her husband died in Killearn, Stirling in 1954 aged 68. His death certificate would give you his address at time of death, and the name and address of the informant, as well as the relationship to the deceased. I downloaded Elizabeth Hardie's marriage certificate from the Scotlands People website and will send that to you offlist. Elizabeth's death certificate and Robert Porter's death certificate may also be downloaded from the same site. See: www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It is a pay site. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Livingstone" <claymore67@yahoo.ca> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hardie Surname Hi Listers, I hope someone can identify with this Family - it would be much appreciated if you do and contact me. >From the 1901 census:- James Hardie, Plumber and Elizabeth McIntosh 37 Smith Street, Whiteinch, Partick, Govan, Lanarkshire. Children: Elizabeth Hardie age 15 **Agnes Hardie age 8 Robert Hardie age 4 **Agnes went to Australia in the early 1900's to marry James M(a)c Neil. Regards, Wilma - Canada

Hi all, I have a tangled mess and hope someone can help me untangle it. Following my ggg grandfather John PURDIE's line back from his birth in 1888 in Carnwath, I found this information on the LDS sites: John PURDIE b. about 1705 married Janet ELDER b. 1709 Carnwath Their children were all born in Carnwath: Mary b. 1730 John b. 1733 Annipal b. 1735 Andrew b. 1737 Robert b. 1739 Son John PURDIE b. 1733 married Janet BRADWOOD b. about 1735 Their children were all born in Carnwath: Jane b. 1758 Robert and John b. 1760 Andrew b. 1766 Jane b. 1768 Daughter Annipal PURDIE b. 1735 married James CLELAND b. about 1725 Their children were all born in Carnwath with the exception of Mary, born in Canongate. Mary b. 1758 John b. 1759 James b. 1763 Janet b. 1764 Andrew b. 1676 William b. 1773 Ann b. 1777 Christian b. 1779 I just found the above information about Annipal today, and until today I only knew that my gggg grandfather Andrew PURDIE b. 1766 married Janet CLELAND b. about 1765. I had no other CLELAND reference. So this could be a case of cousins marrying, or it could be a coincidence since there are a few other Janet CLELANDs born about the same time. Some of the entries give a spouse's name and can be ruled out, but some don't. How can I figure this out? Thanks in advance. Jeanne

Hi Rhoda, Thank you so very much for all the information you sent me in an e-mail. That's wonderful I now know Agnes's sisters married name.  That was so kind of you to download Elizabeth Hardie's Marriage Certificate.  I hope I wont offend you, can I send you the cost of this Certificate?. I am just so grateful to have gotten information on this family. Also,Thank you so very much for the information on Robert Hardie.  Really sad... My poor relative in Australia. She has been wondering if there were any Hardie's from her Mother's Family left in Scotland as she knows nothing about them.. She searched for years (1930's on) looking for her M(a)cNeils and all the letters were returned "not at this address". My Aunt in Scotland gave me her address a number of years ago and I contacted her and she was over the moon to have found someone from the Family she had been looking for all these years. She's a wonderful 94 - soon to be 95year old Lady who would love to know more about her background - that is why I am trying to help her With wonderful people like yourself, and a wonderful List I am surely making progress with these Hardie's. So so grateful for your help in making this lovely Lady feel part of a Family. Warmest regards, Wilma - Canada

Hi Listers, I am trying to help a 94 year old relative in Australia to find descendants of her Mother's Parents. She lost her Mother when she was just over 2 years old and her Father when she was 7 years old.  She's desperate to find someone belonging to her Mother. I am from her Father's side and have managed to update her on our M(a)c Neils, which has truly delighted her. I hope someone can identify with this Family - it would be much appreciated if you do and contact me. From the 1901 census:- James Hardie, Plumber and Elizabeth McIntosh 37 Smith Street, Whiteinch, Partick, Govan, Lanarkshire. Children: Elizabeth Hardie age 15 **Agnes Hardie age 8 Robert Hardie age 4 **Agnes went to Australia in the early 1900's to marry James M(a)c Neil. Regards, Wilma - Canada

Page 85 1813 Jean Black in Salisburgh had a Daughter born the Thirty first day of March Named Christian 1813 Thomas Ritchie coalier Shotts Iron Works and Janet Young Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the 20th day of May & Baptized the 30th of that Month and Named Ann Ritchie 1811 Mr George Espie moulder Shotts Iron Works & Mrs Agnes Simson his Spouse had a Son born there upon the (blank) day of June & Baptized and Named James Espie 1813 Mr George Espie mould Shotts Iron Works and Mrs Agnes Simson Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the Eighth day of May & Baptized the 18th same Month & Named Catherine 1813 John Tweeddale tinner Shotts Iron Works & Carse Crawford Spouse had a Son born there upon Tuesday the Eighth day of June & Baptized the 20th and Named William Tweeddale 1813 Thomas Muir coalier Shotts Iron Works & Janet Brown Spouse had Twins born there upon Saturday the nineteenth day of June both Daughters, and Baptized here the 20th of that Month The Eldest Named Isobel Muir The youngest Named Euphemia Muir 1813 John Craig farmer Bothwellshields & Janet McNair Spouse had a Daughter born on the Twenty Eighth day of May & Baptized here the 20th June & Named Janet Craig 1813 John Ross smith Omoa Iron Works, residing at Downogreen Bothwell Parish, and Janet Jack Spouse had a Son born there upon Wednesday the second day of June and Baptized here upon the 20th of that Month and Named Alexander Ross 1813 John Somervile carter Omoa Iron Works & Jean Stewart Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the Twentieth day of May & Baptized the 20th June and Named Mary Somervile Page 86 1813 John Strathearn weaver in Harthill and Margaret Russell Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the ninth day of May and Baptized & Named Mary Strathearn 1813 John Brown coalier residing in Salisburgh and Agnes Hannah Spouse had a Son born there upon Tuesday the fourth day of June & Baptized here the 4th July & Named William Brown 1803 John Thomson miner residing in Saughenbog & Janet Struthers Spouse had a son born upon the twentieth day of April 1803, Baptized and Named John Thomson 1805 John Thomson in Saughenbog Miner & Janet Struthers Spouse had a Son born upon the twenty ninth day of May baptized and Named William Thomson 1807 John Thomson miner residing at Saughenbog & Janet Struthers Spouse had a Son born there upon the Twenty ninth day of April 1800 & Seven Baptized & Named James Thomson 1809 John Thomson miner residing at Saughenbog & Janet Struthers Spouse had a Son born there upon the Thirteenth day of March and Baptized and Named Thomas Thomson 1811 John Thomson miner residing at Saughenbog & Janet Struthers Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the Twenty Eighth day of May and Baptized and Named Elisabeth Thomson 1813 James McAlpin coalier residing at James Thomson's schoolmaster a Little below New House on the east side of Hamilton Road and Janet Walker Spouse had a Son born upon the Seventh day of April & Baptized here the 2d May and Named William McAlpin 1813 Charles Connor coalier Shotts Iron Works 7 Helen Muirie Spouse had a Son born there upon the fourteenth day of May and Baptized the 18th of that Month and Named John Connor Page 87 (?)11 Matthew Alexander furnace Keeper at Shotts Iron Works and Mary Kirk Spouse had a Son born there upon the Second day of May Baptized and Named David Alexander 1813 Matthew Alexander furnace Keeper at Shotts Iron Works and Mary Kirk Spouse had a Son born there upon the Twenty Seventh day of Octr and Baptized here upon the 28th Novr and Named John Alexander 1813 John Nisbet labourer at Stone and Marion Shaw Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the third day of November & Baptized here on the 28th same month & Named Jean Nisbet 1813 David Muirie Junr Coalier at Shotts Iron Works 7 Betty Gilmour Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the 14th day of Septr and Baptized here upon the 28th Novr and Named Christian Muirie 1813 Mr William Wyllie portioner of Blairmuckhole & Mrs Janet Forrest Spouse had a Son born there upon the Seventeenth day of Novemr 7 Baptized here upon the 2nd Decemr and Named John Wyllie 1813 Angus McArthur coalier residing at Omoa New Town & Elisabeth Adam Spouse had a Son born there upon the Thirtieth day of October & Baptized here upon the 12th Decr and Named Adam McArthur 1813 James McCulloch carrier at Shotts Iron Works & Elisabeth Pender Spouse had a Daughter born there upon the twenty ninth day of October & Baptized here upon the 12th Decr and Named Barbara McCulloch 1813 John Lowden weaver Bentfoot of Murdieston & Mary Storrie Spouse had a Son born there upon the Twenty Eighth day of June Baptized & named James Lowden

Thanks Nivard, I am looking forward to getting 'dug in'. Looks like I could be busy. Cheers  Margaret ----- Original Message ---- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 12:09:10 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Ancestry Hi Margaret One of the main things for Scotland on Ancestry is the 1841 to 1901 census transcription (images are not allowed by the powers that be in Scotland) Its transcription is a tad wavy at times but the search engine more than makes up for it as its fully transcribed which allows say all those named BARR living in a XXXX Street for example or all Blacksmiths in Renfrewshire Using the transcription you can usually find and track your people through the census years, then use that to obtain the census images from SP (I would always advocate obtaining the images as there are usually extra details at the very least) However there are many more avenues to explore such as the Probate Calendars 1861 to 1941, although its the National Probate Calendars for England and Wales there are many Scots who died with assets in England (a simple search for Scotland gets over 109,000 hits, many of which will be people who died in Scotland but there are many Scots listed too) For example my g.g.grandfather who lived and died in Scotland is listed as follows SMITH Alexander William (commonly known as Alexander) 29th August 1891 The confirmation of the Commisariot of Renfrew dated 19 August 1891 of David Smith the son and Thomas Struthers Smith the Nephew as surviving Executors Nominate of Alexander William Smith commonly known as Alexander Smith Merchant of Crofthead House Langside near Glasgow who died at Langside 14 July 1891 Sealed. (I already had his death and will from Scotland but if I had not it would be very useful information) Some of Ancestrys databases need a little coaxing out like the trade directories , for Scotland they have the following Directory     * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Central     * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Central East     * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Combined     * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Highlands     * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Southern     * 1825-6 Pigot's Directory, Southern Highlands     * 1837 Pigots National Commercial Directory     * 1870 Post Office Directory of Glasgow     * 1893 Slaters Directory of Edinburgh and Glasgow     * 1893 Slaters Directory of Scottish Counties     * 1921 Slaters Directory of Scottish Counties     * 1925 Post Office Directory of Aberdeen     * 1893 Slaters Directory of Edinburgh and Glasgow     * 1893 Slaters Directory of Scottish Counties     * 1921 Slaters Directory of Scottish Counties     * 1925 Post Office Directory of Aberdeen Then there are the various Criminals databases , many Scots are recorded Then there are the Military records which record many Scots in the British Army (medals, service records etc) And the list goes on I would suggest a trial (either a 14 day free one or use a Library that has it) and see what you find If you enter Ancestry and select card catalogue from the Search menu, enter Scotland and you will see there are many more databases that may be of interest As with any online data supplier, it will suit some more than others Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Does anyone use Ancestry U.K.?? Any thoughts on it.? Is there much Scottish information? Thanks Margaret Ont   ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC:  The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE:  Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message