Hi Bob, Re your 1851 possibility: John is not obviously related to his master's family, which was one thought I had, but if yours, I would wonder why he would exchange the trade of wheel wright for coal mining. Presumably his parents were declared deceased on his marriage cert.? What was his father's occupation? Did the witnesses' names provide any clues? Where was [John at the time of] his marriage? There is a family of DUFFs in Larbert, parents John & Jean who were born in Ireland. I had wondered about Ireland for your family, mainly because of the spelling of McMILLIN. Of course I have no idea whether these are yours or not; it depends on how certain John's birthplace is. Best wishes, Sheena Ireland -----Original Message----- From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> John DUFF (b 1830-1834, Lanark, Glasgow) was a coal miner by 1858. His parents were John Duff and Jean McMillin, supposedly (according to his marriage certificate and death certificate). In the 1851 census there is no clear cut unambiguous John DUFF that would be him. I have one possibility, but don't know how to prove it (if at all).

>> If they say 'Jean Duff M S McMillin' this implies that his >> parents were married, and you could try looking for a >> marriage >> record. >> If they say simply 'Jean McMillin' this implies that he was >> illegitimate. > I can't agree with this latter comment. That is unfortunate, but it is perfectly true as far as Scottish certificates are concerned. The heading of the relevant columns in birth, marriage and death certificates says quite specifically 'Name, and maiden surname of mother', and Registrars were instructed to record it in the form <married surname> M S <maiden surname>, M S Being the official abbreviation for 'Maiden Surname'. I have never seen a Scottish birth, marriage or death certificate of a person whose parents were married where the mother's name was not recorded as above. I have seen an occasional one recorded in this form where the parents had not in fact been married, but mostly the omission of the "<married surname> M S" bit definitely implies that the parents had not been married. Anne

Hi Bob, I checked the 1841 Free Census for you, not that I have anything definite for you and found :- Piece: SCT1841/722 Place: Tranent -East Lothian Enumeration District: 11 Civil Parish: Tranent (Part Of) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 8 Page: 5 and Page 6 Address: Myles DUFF John M 30 Agricultural Labourer Outside Census County (1841) XXXX DUFF Isabella F 30 Outside Census County (1841) DUFF Isabella F 13 Outside Census County (1841) DUFF John M 10 Outside Census County (1841) DUFF Janet F 8 Outside Census County (1841) YYYY Another Record which may or may not help Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Glasgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Folio: 59 Page: 1 Address: 81 Bridgegate Street Both John and Sally DUFF aged 10 , both born in Lanarkshire, working as Fleshers Address: Lady Marshalls Close And another at Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 27 Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Stephens Folio: 62 Page: 11 Address: Sauchiehall Street DUFF John M 10 born Lanarkshire Good Luck Gay

> There is a patrons submission on LDS for the birth of Thomas > Bryce 2nd July > 1823 in Glasgow to Thomas Bryce and Isabella ALLAN. > There is a similar patrons submission for William Bryce born > 14 October 1819 > in Glasgow to Thomas Bryce and Isabella ALLAN. That submission is a very interesting batch. There are 277 names in it, and apart from a dozen or so women, all of whom married a Bryson, they are all people surnamed Bryce or Bryson, so it has evidently been submitted by someone researching that/those particular surnames. I note with interest an 'extracted' listing in the IGI of the marriage of a Thomas Brice to an Isobell Allan on 4 May 1804 in Edinburgh St Cuthberts. That one is in www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk so you can go there and download an image of the original document at modest cost. The index at SP also has two results for surname Bryce, father Thomas, mother Allan between 1819 and 1823, so it looks as if you can get the originals of the baptisms too. HTH Anne

> John DUFF may have been an orphan. My problem is that I > can't prove it. Can anyone help? > > John DUFF (b 1830-1834, Lanark, Glasgow) was a coal miner by > 1858. His parents were > John Duff and Jean McMillin, supposedly (according to his > marriage certificate and death > certificate). Two things. How exactly do his marriage and/or death certificates name his mother? If they say 'Jean Duff M S McMillin' this implies that his parents were married, and you could try looking for a marriage record. If they say simply 'Jean McMillin' this implies that he was illegitimate. If he was indeed an orphan, he might have become a charge on the parish, and if so there could be some useful information in the parish board records. These used to be in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow, but I saw somewhere that they, or some of them, have been or are being moved to Cumbernauld or somewhere like that, so best to check. HTH Anne

Sheena- I like the possibility of his family coming from Ireland. I do believe though that he was born in Glasgow. Do you have more information of the John and Jean in Larbert? Where is Larbert? I do have credits on Scotlandspeople if I need to search. Thank you for a revolutionary idea. Bob On Nov 30, 2010, at 8:47 AM, "Alan & Sheena Ireland" <ireland@pavilion.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Bob, > Re your 1851 possibility: John is not obviously related to his master's > family, which was one thought I had, but if yours, I would wonder why he > would exchange the trade of wheel wright for coal mining. > Presumably his parents were declared deceased on his marriage cert.? What > was his father's occupation? Did the witnesses' names provide any clues? > Where was [John at the time of] his marriage? > There is a family of DUFFs in Larbert, parents John & Jean who were born in > Ireland. I had wondered about Ireland for your family, mainly because of > the spelling of McMILLIN. Of course I have no idea whether these are yours > or not; it depends on how certain John's birthplace is. > Best wishes, > Sheena Ireland > > -----Original Message----- > From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> > John DUFF (b 1830-1834, Lanark, Glasgow) was a coal miner by 1858. His > parents were John Duff and Jean McMillin, supposedly (according to his > marriage certificate and death certificate). In the 1851 census there is no > clear cut unambiguous John DUFF that would be him. I have one possibility, > but don't know how to prove it (if at all). > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please let me clarify - I have the marriage certificate of the son John Duff who married Jean Scollick in 1858. I do not have any record of his parents - John Duff and Jean McMillin. I have tracked down the witnesses to no avail. Both were either friend of the bride or relative of the bride. Thanks again On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:57 AM, The Duffs <the4duffs@verizon.net> wrote: > The marriage certificate just lists the two names - no M.S. It also does not list them as deceased but there is no record of them that I can find. > > I also can not find a record of their marriage (if they were married) and no death record. Their son John Duff was definitely born in Lanark Glasgow as states the 1861 census. He was a coal miner. I believe his father John Duff was also a coal miner. I will check my records later. > > Thank you for your help. > Bob > > PS my website is: > > Http://mysite.verizon.net/resup5bq/duffgenealogy/ > > On Nov 30, 2010, at 6:29 AM, "Anne Burgess" <anne.listmail@btinternet.com> wrote: > >>> John DUFF may have been an orphan. My problem is that I >>> can't prove it. Can anyone help? >>> >>> John DUFF (b 1830-1834, Lanark, Glasgow) was a coal miner by >>> 1858. His parents were >>> John Duff and Jean McMillin, supposedly (according to his >>> marriage certificate and death >>> certificate). >> >> Two things. How exactly do his marriage and/or death >> certificates name his mother? >> >> If they say 'Jean Duff M S McMillin' this implies that his >> parents were married, and you could try looking for a marriage >> record. >> >> If they say simply 'Jean McMillin' this implies that he was >> illegitimate. >> >> If he was indeed an orphan, he might have become a charge on the >> parish, and if so there could be some useful information in the >> parish board records. These used to be in the Mitchell Library >> in Glasgow, but I saw somewhere that they, or some of them, have >> been or are being moved to Cumbernauld or somewhere like that, >> so best to check. >> >> HTH >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST >> >> >> LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. >> >> WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply >> >> LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The marriage certificate just lists the two names - no M.S. It also does not list them as deceased but there is no record of them that I can find. I also can not find a record of their marriage (if they were married) and no death record. Their son John Duff was definitely born in Lanark Glasgow as states the 1861 census. He was a coal miner. I believe his father John Duff was also a coal miner. I will check my records later. Thank you for your help. Bob PS my website is: Http://mysite.verizon.net/resup5bq/duffgenealogy/ On Nov 30, 2010, at 6:29 AM, "Anne Burgess" <anne.listmail@btinternet.com> wrote: >> John DUFF may have been an orphan. My problem is that I >> can't prove it. Can anyone help? >> >> John DUFF (b 1830-1834, Lanark, Glasgow) was a coal miner by >> 1858. His parents were >> John Duff and Jean McMillin, supposedly (according to his >> marriage certificate and death >> certificate). > > Two things. How exactly do his marriage and/or death > certificates name his mother? > > If they say 'Jean Duff M S McMillin' this implies that his > parents were married, and you could try looking for a marriage > record. > > If they say simply 'Jean McMillin' this implies that he was > illegitimate. > > If he was indeed an orphan, he might have become a charge on the > parish, and if so there could be some useful information in the > parish board records. These used to be in the Mitchell Library > in Glasgow, but I saw somewhere that they, or some of them, have > been or are being moved to Cumbernauld or somewhere like that, > so best to check. > > HTH > > Anne > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have scant information on this but I do have in my records six persons surnamed Bryce. Some of them were born in the early 1800s in Glasgow, but a later generation was born in the late 1830s in and around Carnwath, so they had moved. I do not have a Thomas Bryce or Isabella Allan. I have marriages amongst this group to surnames Low, Brodie, Smellie, Dickson, McCowan & Cooper. If you see any leads you would like to pursue, please contact me. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Burgess Sent: November 30, 2010 3:44 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Janet Swan > There is a patrons submission on LDS for the birth of Thomas > Bryce 2nd July > 1823 in Glasgow to Thomas Bryce and Isabella ALLAN. > There is a similar patrons submission for William Bryce born > 14 October 1819 > in Glasgow to Thomas Bryce and Isabella ALLAN. That submission is a very interesting batch. There are 277 names in it, and apart from a dozen or so women, all of whom married a Bryson, they are all people surnamed Bryce or Bryson, so it has evidently been submitted by someone researching that/those particular surnames. I note with interest an 'extracted' listing in the IGI of the marriage of a Thomas Brice to an Isobell Allan on 4 May 1804 in Edinburgh St Cuthberts. That one is in www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk so you can go there and download an image of the original document at modest cost. The index at SP also has two results for surname Bryce, father Thomas, mother Allan between 1819 and 1823, so it looks as if you can get the originals of the baptisms too. HTH Anne -------------------------------

Thank you Gay. I think you email better demonstrated my problem. I would love to believe that this John DUFF is mine, but there is nothing that links them - no occupation, name similarities to future generations (no future Sallys or Isabellas). Any thoughts? Bob -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Gay Fielding Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 8:52 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Orphans? Hi Bob, I checked the 1841 Free Census for you, not that I have anything definite for you and found :- Piece: SCT1841/722 Place: Tranent -East Lothian Enumeration District: 11 Civil Parish: Tranent (Part Of) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 8 Page: 5 and Page 6 Address: Myles DUFF John M 30 Agricultural Labourer Outside Census County (1841) XXXX DUFF Isabella F 30 Outside Census County (1841) DUFF Isabella F 13 Outside Census County (1841) DUFF John M 10 Outside Census County (1841) DUFF Janet F 8 Outside Census County (1841) YYYY Another Record which may or may not help Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Glasgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Folio: 59 Page: 1 Address: 81 Bridgegate Street Both John and Sally DUFF aged 10 , both born in Lanarkshire, working as Fleshers Address: Lady Marshalls Close And another at Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 27 Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Stephens Folio: 62 Page: 11 Address: Sauchiehall Street DUFF John M 10 born Lanarkshire Good Luck Gay ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all- John DUFF may have been an orphan. My problem is that I can't prove it. Can anyone help? John DUFF (b 1830-1834, Lanark, Glasgow) was a coal miner by 1858. His parents were John Duff and Jean McMillin, supposedly (according to his marriage certificate and death certificate). In the 1851 census there is no clear cut unambiguous John DUFF that would be him. I have one possibility, but don't know how to prove it (if at all). Here is one possibility: The 1851 Cambuslang Census Gavin Hamilton, (age 35, b Lanark, Stonehouse) was the head of the family -Master Wheel Wright - employing 6 men. Agnes wife - age 31, b Lanark, Stonehouse) married in 1839. James, son - age 10 b Cambuslang Thomas - son - age 8 b Cambuslang Mary - dau - age 6 b Cambuslang Gavin - son - age 4 b Cambuslang Martha - dau - age 1 b Cambuslang AND Elizabeth Potter, age 17 Daniel Hamilton, age 17 - no relation given to head other than "app" and John Duff, Lodger, age 17 and born in Glasgow. He was an apprentice Wheel Wright. Many thanks, Bob

Thought I would pass on this URL as there are soldiers/photos from Glasgow in this article. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: Hywel Roberts To: LONDON@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 6:52 AM Subject: [LON] Photo of London soldier in WW1 POW camp My grandfather's brother was a prisoner in the Minden POW Camp from November 1917 and I have a number of photos taken inside the POW camp which I have shown, and will be showing, on the following site over the next few weeks: http://blogs.caernarfonherald.co.uk/hywelroberts/ Currently I show the official camp photo of the following London soldier and if there are any of this man's relatives reading this I'd be delighted to send a copy of the photo. He is: Pte C Tennant of the Royal Scots with the address 12 Marlow Road, Homerton, London Does anyone know this man? Hywel Roberts

Hi Rhoda, Thanks for your information; no I hadn't yet seen the shipping records and you have helped me another step of the way as I had no idea of John's birth year. The extra entry showing Isabella travelling between US and England makes sense as some of her siblings remained in the US when their father returned to England. Yes please I would like a copy of the records; my email address is merry@coldstream-plantation.com.au Thanks once again for our kind help and offer. Best Regards Kerry Anne Merry -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CandROverson Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 12:06 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Gordon Clowes Family Hello Kerry I have no (known) links with your Gordon family but I had a look on Ancestry passenger lists and found what looks to be your family on the barque/bark 'G T Kemp', travelling from Cape of Good Hope to Boston in 1868. They were intending to settle in the US. The family consisted of: J M Clowes, 41, mechanic Isabel Clowes, 42 Isabel Clowes, 11 Sarah Clowes, 9 Anna (sic) Clowes, 8 I also found an Isabella Sara Clowes returning from the US to England on the Oratova in March 1914. She was 56 and her last permanent residence was England. This Isabella was the same age as the Isabel Clowes on the 1868 passenger list, but could just be a coincidence. If you haven't seen these, I can send you the transcripts off-list. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "G & K Merry" <merry@coldstream-plantation.com.au> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:54 AM Subject: [Lanark] Gordon Clowes Family > Hi Folks, > > I am new to the list and hope that this is the correct list for my query. > > I would like to exchange information with anyone who may have an interest > in > the family of John Mitchell(or Minchell) Clowes and Isabella Scott Gordon > (daughter of Thomas Gordon & Martha Rodgers). John was in the British Army > and they married at Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland in 1844 prior to going > to > South Africa where they raised a large family. Their eldest child was my > husband's great-grandmother Margaret Johana Gordon Clowes. > > I believe one of her siblings was Annie Scott Gordon Clowes. The family > travelled to the US bat 1874 and returned to England abt 1877. Margaret > married in 1863 and remained in South Africa when the family moved. ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks, I am new to the list and hope that this is the correct list for my query. I would like to exchange information with anyone who may have an interest in the family of John Mitchell(or Minchell) Clowes and Isabella Scott Gordon (daughter of Thomas Gordon & Martha Rodgers). John was in the British Army and they married at Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland in 1844 prior to going to South Africa where they raised a large family. Their eldest child was my husband's great-grandmother Margaret Johana Gordon Clowes. I believe one of her siblings was Annie Scott Gordon Clowes. The family travelled to the US bat 1874 and returned to England abt 1877. Margaret married in 1863 and remained in South Africa when the family moved. Would love to here from anyone who may know of the Gordon family in Lanarkshire or may have an ancestor with the distinctive Gordon Clowes name. Regards Kerry Anne Merry Tucabia...NSW...2462 Australia

Hello Kerry I have no (known) links with your Gordon family but I had a look on Ancestry passenger lists and found what looks to be your family on the barque/bark 'G T Kemp', travelling from Cape of Good Hope to Boston in 1868. They were intending to settle in the US. The family consisted of: J M Clowes, 41, mechanic Isabel Clowes, 42 Isabel Clowes, 11 Sarah Clowes, 9 Anna (sic) Clowes, 8 I also found an Isabella Sara Clowes returning from the US to England on the Oratova in March 1914. She was 56 and her last permanent residence was England. This Isabella was the same age as the Isabel Clowes on the 1868 passenger list, but could just be a coincidence. If you haven't seen these, I can send you the transcripts off-list. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "G & K Merry" <merry@coldstream-plantation.com.au> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:54 AM Subject: [Lanark] Gordon Clowes Family > Hi Folks, > > I am new to the list and hope that this is the correct list for my query. > > I would like to exchange information with anyone who may have an interest > in > the family of John Mitchell(or Minchell) Clowes and Isabella Scott Gordon > (daughter of Thomas Gordon & Martha Rodgers). John was in the British Army > and they married at Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland in 1844 prior to going > to > South Africa where they raised a large family. Their eldest child was my > husband's great-grandmother Margaret Johana Gordon Clowes. > > I believe one of her siblings was Annie Scott Gordon Clowes. The family > travelled to the US bat 1874 and returned to England abt 1877. Margaret > married in 1863 and remained in South Africa when the family moved.

I would like to thank Mary, Linda and Ann for their help. I am starting to look at the suggested web sites. Fingers crossed I may have some luck. My father came from Bothwellhaugh, so if anyone knows if there is a website for past residents I would love to hear about it. Thanks again, Eddie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Paterson" <maryp34@ozemail.com.au> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] GILMOUR, PERRY, HUNTER > Eddie. Could you give us more details ..ie.place of birth.where > married.what certificates you have.and any dates of birth you may have. > > mary > Sydney > > >>>

Hi Eddie I'd start with http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ The official government website for obtaining scanned copies of original certificates - births, marriages, deaths and census records 1841-1901, wills, etc. Go to their Help and Resources page and click on Getting Started. Lots of useful information. Also, add a Genealogy folder in your Favourites, Internet Explorer, to add all those website addresses you're bound to collect. Good hunting, Lani -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 2:49 p.m. To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] GILMOUR, PERRY, HUNTER Hi, I am new to the list, and also new to genealogy, so any help anyone can give me would be much appreciated. I am trying to trace my father's family tree. He died when I was only a few months old, and so I know nothing about him, or his family at all. My father's name is Matthew Perry Gilmour, born February 1913 - his parents were Robert GILMOUR and Rachel PERRY. They were married February 1898. According to their marriage certificate (hopefully they are the right people), Robert's parents were James GILMOUR and Jane HADDON or HADDOW. Rachel's parents were Robert PERRY and Helen HUNTER. I am not sure where to go from here, what good Scottish websites to use. What sort of records I should check etc. As I said earlier, any help would be really appreciated. Many thanks Eddie ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am new to the list, and also new to genealogy, so any help anyone can give me would be much appreciated. I am trying to trace my father's family tree. He died when I was only a few months old, and so I know nothing about him, or his family at all. My father's name is Matthew Perry Gilmour, born February 1913 - his parents were Robert GILMOUR and Rachel PERRY. They were married February 1898. According to their marriage certificate (hopefully they are the right people), Robert's parents were James GILMOUR and Jane HADDON or HADDOW. Rachel's parents were Robert PERRY and Helen HUNTER. I am not sure where to go from here, what good Scottish websites to use. What sort of records I should check etc. As I said earlier, any help would be really appreciated. Many thanks Eddie

The only burial area at this time would be the one around the original Old Parish Church - Cambusnethan, Greenhead Road - now a large area, expanding downhill to the south/west. Morningside at this point was a 'railway junction' village, of coal and fireclay mines surrounded by farmland.