Thank you for your help. In a message dated 12/26/2010 2:31:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ovington1@sky.com writes: Hi Debbie This appears to be the family in 1901 Name: Euphemia Currie Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 564/1 Registration district: Greenock East Civil Parish: Greenock East County: Renfrewshire Address: 56 St Lawrence St ED: 41 Household schedule number: 64 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1901_195 Household Members: Name Age Euphemia Currie 42 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Matthew Currie 16 Glasgow, Lanarkshire John Currie 12 Govan, Lanarkshire Janet Currie 10 Govan, Lanarkshire Mary Currie 8 Govan, Lanarkshire Euphemia Currie 6 Greenock, Renfrewshire James Currie 5 Greenock, Renfrewshire Daniel Currie 11 Months Greenock, Renfrewshire Parish: Greenock East; ED: 41; Page: 13; Line: 10; Roll: CSSCT1901_195; Year: 1901. Unfortunately Ancestrys transcript does not list the marital status, I would assume it says Widow but you need to check the page image on scotlandspeople to see what it says, John could be away working (nothing to do with journeyman I might add) If it does say widow it suggests John died 1899 to 1901 possibly in Govan but not necessarily A search of the deaths on scotlandspeople finds 3 John CURRIE deaths 1899 - 1901 (birth year 1849 +/- 2 years) Or 35 with no birth year Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am wondering if anyone has done any research on the family of > John Currie and Euphemia Burt? > They married 3 Nov 1882 Kelvin, Glasgow > Euphemia was born in 1857 and died 1909. > John was born in 1849 and died before her, but I can't find his death. He > is listed as a Blacksmith/Journeyman on the below children's birth > entries. > Their known children are: > Matthew b. 1884 Glasgow > John b. 1898 Govan > Janet Kennedy b. 1890 Govan m. Charles Willam Sharpe > ? Mary McDonald b. 1895 Govan > > Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. There is a John Currie > (Baker/Journeyman) that married a Euphemia Chalmers and this has gotten > confusing, their children have similar names. > > Thank you in advance from freezing Michigan > Debbie ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again A little more These are transcripts of the 1861 & 1891 from Ancestry The transcription can leave a little to be desired but the search engine is so good you can often find what others cannot I would suggest that you really need to get the pages for these census from scotlandspeople (Ancestry do not have the Scots census pages) Name: Archd MacKirdy Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship: Son Father's name: Archd MacKirdy Mother's name: Catherine MacKirdy Gender: Male Where born: Rothesay, Buteshire Registration Number: 558 Registration district: Rothesay Civil Parish: Rothesay Town: Rothesay County: Bute Address: 117 High Street Occupation: Finsmith Ap (probably Tinsmiths apprentice) ED: 18 Household schedule number: 105 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1861_73 Household Members: Name Age Archd MacKirdy 57 Mason Rothesay, Buteshire Catherine MacKirdy 56 Rothesay, Buteshire Mary MacKirdy 19 Rothesay, Buteshire Janet MacKirdy 17 Rothesay, Buteshire Archd MacKirdy 15 Rothesay, Buteshire Parish: Rothesay; ED: 18; Page: 17; Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1861_73; Year: 1861. Note name of wife Name: Archibald McKinzie Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Catherine Murphy Gender: Male Where born: Rotheray, Bute Registration Number: 627 Registration district: Cambuslang Civil Parish: Cambuslang County: Lanarkshire Address: 67(a) Westburn Occupation: Steelwork Labourer ED: 13 Household schedule number: 104 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1891_229 Household Members: Name Age Archibald McKinzie 44 Catherine Murphy 34 Archibald McKardie 16 Patrick McKardie 14 Bella McKardie 12 Eliz McKardie 8 Annie McKardie 7 John McKardie 5 Mary McKardie 1 Daniel MCCulloch 43 Hugh Murphy 20 Peter Cassidy 30 Bernard Flyn 41 Parish: Cambuslang; ED: 13; Page: 23; Line: 11; Roll: CSSCT1891_229; Year: 1891. I didn't mention before but my father was born in Hallside Cambuslang Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am new to the list and am looking for anyone researching the name McCurdy >in Cambuslang. I am researching Archibald McCurdy who married Catherine >Murphy who was born in Ireland. Archibald was born 1849 (I believe) Their >first child was Archibald born 1878. They both died in Cambuslang. Any info >would be appreciated. Thanks, Roberta in Canada.

Hi Roberta >From the 1881 Name: Archibald McCurdy Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Catherine McCurdy Gender: Male Where born: Rothesay, Buteshire Registration Number: 627 Registration district: Cambuslang Civil Parish: Cambuslang County: Lanarkshire Address: Bogend Occupation: Iron Furnace Man ED: 5 Household schedule number: 88 Line: 17 Roll: cssct1881_206 Household Members: Name Age Archibald McCurdy 34 Catherine McCurdy 30 Ireland Archibald McCurdy 5 Hallside, Lanarkshire Patrick McCurdy 4 Hallside, Lanarkshire Isabella McCurdy 2 Bogend, Lanarkshire Elizabeth McCurdy 3 MO Bogend, Lanarkshire Parish: Cambuslang; ED: 5; Page: 20; Line: 17; Roll: cssct1881_206; Year: 1881. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am new to the list and am looking for anyone researching the name McCurdy >in Cambuslang. I am researching Archibald McCurdy who married Catherine >Murphy who was born in Ireland. Archibald was born 1849 (I believe) Their >first child was Archibald born 1878. They both died in Cambuslang. Any info >would be appreciated. Thanks, Roberta in Canada.

I am new to the list and am looking for anyone researching the name McCurdy in Cambuslang. I am researching Archibald McCurdy who married Catherine Murphy who was born in Ireland. Archibald was born 1849 (I believe) Their first child was Archibald born 1878. They both died in Cambuslang. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Roberta in Canada.

Hi Debbie This appears to be the family in 1901 Name: Euphemia Currie Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 564/1 Registration district: Greenock East Civil Parish: Greenock East County: Renfrewshire Address: 56 St Lawrence St ED: 41 Household schedule number: 64 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1901_195 Household Members: Name Age Euphemia Currie 42 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Matthew Currie 16 Glasgow, Lanarkshire John Currie 12 Govan, Lanarkshire Janet Currie 10 Govan, Lanarkshire Mary Currie 8 Govan, Lanarkshire Euphemia Currie 6 Greenock, Renfrewshire James Currie 5 Greenock, Renfrewshire Daniel Currie 11 Months Greenock, Renfrewshire Parish: Greenock East; ED: 41; Page: 13; Line: 10; Roll: CSSCT1901_195; Year: 1901. Unfortunately Ancestrys transcript does not list the marital status, I would assume it says Widow but you need to check the page image on scotlandspeople to see what it says, John could be away working (nothing to do with journeyman I might add) If it does say widow it suggests John died 1899 to 1901 possibly in Govan but not necessarily A search of the deaths on scotlandspeople finds 3 John CURRIE deaths 1899 - 1901 (birth year 1849 +/- 2 years) Or 35 with no birth year Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am wondering if anyone has done any research on the family of > John Currie and Euphemia Burt? > They married 3 Nov 1882 Kelvin, Glasgow > Euphemia was born in 1857 and died 1909. > John was born in 1849 and died before her, but I can't find his death. He > is listed as a Blacksmith/Journeyman on the below children's birth > entries. > Their known children are: > Matthew b. 1884 Glasgow > John b. 1898 Govan > Janet Kennedy b. 1890 Govan m. Charles Willam Sharpe > ? Mary McDonald b. 1895 Govan > > Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. There is a John Currie > (Baker/Journeyman) that married a Euphemia Chalmers and this has gotten > confusing, their children have similar names. > > Thank you in advance from freezing Michigan > Debbie

I sent her the 1901 Census and his 1901 Death registration from SP. Cheers!!! Don -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 2:31 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Currie/Burt Family Hi Debbie This appears to be the family in 1901 Name: Euphemia Currie Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 564/1 Registration district: Greenock East Civil Parish: Greenock East County: Renfrewshire Address: 56 St Lawrence St ED: 41 Household schedule number: 64 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1901_195 Household Members: Name Age Euphemia Currie 42 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Matthew Currie 16 Glasgow, Lanarkshire John Currie 12 Govan, Lanarkshire Janet Currie 10 Govan, Lanarkshire Mary Currie 8 Govan, Lanarkshire Euphemia Currie 6 Greenock, Renfrewshire James Currie 5 Greenock, Renfrewshire Daniel Currie 11 Months Greenock, Renfrewshire Parish: Greenock East; ED: 41; Page: 13; Line: 10; Roll: CSSCT1901_195; Year: 1901.

I am wondering if anyone has done any research on the family of John Currie and Euphemia Burt? They married 3 Nov 1882 Kelvin, Glasgow Euphemia was born in 1857 and died 1909. John was born in 1849 and died before her, but I can't find his death. He is listed as a Blacksmith/Journeyman on the below children's birth entries. Their known children are: Matthew b. 1884 Glasgow John b. 1898 Govan Janet Kennedy b. 1890 Govan m. Charles Willam Sharpe ? Mary McDonald b. 1895 Govan Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. There is a John Currie (Baker/Journeyman) that married a Euphemia Chalmers and this has gotten confusing, their children have similar names. Thank you in advance from freezing Michigan Debbie

>From the Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, USA, Patriot-News, Wed., Dec 22, 2010: Cameron M. Dunn, 95, of Camp Hill, passed away Sunday, December 19, 2010, at Holy Spirit Hospital. He was born March 28, 1915, in Lake Placid, NY, the son of Seymour Gourlay and Elizabeth Maxwell Dunn. He was the devoted husband of Juanita (Bunny) R. Dunn, originally of Lewistown, Montana, and enjoyed a 57 year marriage before her passing in July 2005. Cameron was a fifth generation golf professional, Douglas Gourlay and William Dunn families of Edinborough, Scotland, golf ball and club makers of the 1810's era. He was a life member of the Professional Golf Association of America since 1935, and at the time of his passing, was one of 3 longest serving members with 75 years of service. He was also a life member of the Golf Course Superintendents Association of America since 1952 and an inductee to the Central Pennsylvania Sports Hall of Fame in 1988. Cameron was a World War II Veteran serving in the US Army in the United States and the Pacific Theatre. He retired in 1946 as Major in the Field Artillery. He served as a Golf Professional and/or Golf Course Superintendent in New York, New Hampshire, Connecticut, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Florida, California and the Republic of Panama. He was a resident of Pennsylvania since 1950 and his professional work at Pennsylvania Golf Courses included Conestoga Country Club-Lancaster; Blue Ridge Country Club-Harrisburg; Tioga Golf Club-Wellsboro; Carlisle Country Club-Carlisle; Cedar Brook Country Club-Blue Bell; Cumberland Golf Club-Carlisle. It was during his tenure in Panama that he met Bunny as she served there in the Women's Army Corps. After retirement, Cameron and Bunny spent winters in central Florida and summers in the Carlisle area. Both before, and following Bunny's passing, he enjoyed landscaping, creating rock art, wood working, reading, bird watching and following golf tournaments on TV. Survived by son Craig and wife Cindy Adams Dunn of Camp Hill, and sister Helen Dunbar, Shenandoah, Iowa. An interment service will be held at Indiantown Gap National Cemetery on Monday, December 27, 2010, 11:30am. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to Appalachian Audubon Society for the Waggoner's Gap Sanctuary and Hawk Watch, P.O. Box 15123, Harrisburg, PA 17105-5123.

Thanks again Nivard. You have given me a lot of background web sites and very useful. Joseph and Elizabeth (Shields) Stone, were my father's grandparents, I have lots of stories about them via my father and his siblings, the background information on the Irish immigration to Glasgow help make sense with some of the things I know about their daughter my grandmother. What I find amazing is that where they lived in Ohio and before in Pennsylvania, I have no information on them except for the 1880 census, and many references to them in other family records (marriage licenses and death records), but no real record of them, I suspect they both died before 1900. Anyhow it amazing to suddenly see a number of records of them in the UK, if I have the right Joseph and Elizabeth (I am 99 percent sure I do). I certainly have a lot more resources to look for records at, thanks to your help and others. Regards Warren -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:03 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Shields Marriage Record. You are most welcome Warren Yes I know just how hard it can be getting records from America, I have a line of OVINGTONs in Ohio and have struggled to battle may way through A good way to start with anywhere in Scotland (or England / Wales for that matter) that you are unfamiliar with, is to enter the place name in google followed by Genuki , where for example you will find http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/LKS/Glasgow/index.html

Hi Gay Have you ruled out this family? Name: James Bryce Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margaret Bryce Gender: Male Where born: Rutherglen, Lanark Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil Parish: Glasgow Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 85 Main St Occupation: Carpet Weaver ED: 85 Household schedule number: 64 Line: 6 Roll: CSSCT1861_113 Household Members: Name Age James Bryce 40 Margaret Bryce 40 Agnes Bryce 14 Margaret Bryce 10 James Bryce 8 Mary Bryce 2 Parish: Glasgow Gorbals; ED: 85; Page: 13; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1861_113; Year: 1861. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS castlegarden has nothing to do with Ancestry or is that not what you meant? >I am trying to find Where in the World the brother of my gggrandmother and >his family emigrated to, from Glasgow Lanarkshire in 1851 or later. > I tried Nivard's http://www.castlegarden.org/ website, but I don't have > access to Ancestry and my search was not very informative. > In 1841 > James BRYCE is in the 1841 Census with his parents James and Agnes BRYCE > at : 1 North Clyde St; Enumeration District: 19 Civil Parish: Barony > Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Mark's Folio: 19 Page: 15 > In 1851 > James Bryce with his wife Margaret 31, and children John 9, Agnes 4, > Margaret 2 at 7 Griffiths Bldg Salford Manchester, with his two sisters, > Mary CAMPBELL nee Bryce and Agnes BRYCE where John Campbell and his > wife Mary my gggrandparents and children were about to emigrate to > Australia where they landed in October 1851.. > > I have searched every State in Australia and can find no trace of James > and his family either emigrating to Australia or returning to Scotland > Any help is appreciated, > Thanks and Happy Christmas. > Gay

You are most welcome Warren Yes I know just how hard it can be getting records from America, I have a line of OVINGTONs in Ohio and have struggled to battle may way through A good way to start with anywhere in Scotland (or England / Wales for that matter) that you are unfamiliar with, is to enter the place name in google followed by Genuki , where for example you will find http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/LKS/Glasgow/index.html Another reasonable source of information is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Glasgow Although wikipedia is open to errors the vast majority of it is sound and at least a starter Maps wise try http://maps.nls.uk/counties/index.html And http://www.british-history.ac.uk/map.aspx?pubid=270 And http://archivemaps.com/mapco/britisle.htm There are plenty more And yes it is imperative that you consult the originals where found in a transcript or index , you never know what you may find Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Many thanks Nivard. > Thank you for looking up those records. The record from Castle Garden > fits > perfect with the U.S. 1880 census as far as age. Thanks for the LDS > records, I have their reference, but from past experience looking at LDS > extracts it is always good to confirm with actual records when possible, > details are always good, but dates and details can sometimes get confuse > when the information is enter into their computer, sometimes a simple > transcribing error. Besides the actual marriage record might have a > goldmine of information. Many thanks for > http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ > I wish we had access to records that easy in the U.S., you are having a > good > day here if you can find records from the 1800's. Is the LDS extract from > records in Glasgow and was Glasgow part of Lanarkshire at the time?, > please > forgive the question, but if it helps to understand the area better when > looking for records. > Thanks again for the web sites and taking the time to look-up the > information. > > Regards > Warren

I am trying to find Where in the World the brother of my gggrandmother and his family emigrated to, from Glasgow Lanarkshire in 1851 or later. I tried Nivard's http://www.castlegarden.org/ website, but I don't have access to Ancestry and my search was not very informative. In 1841 James BRYCE is in the 1841 Census with his parents James and Agnes BRYCE at : 1 North Clyde St; Enumeration District: 19 Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Mark's Folio: 19 Page: 15 In 1851 James Bryce with his wife Margaret 31, and children John 9, Agnes 4, Margaret 2 at 7 Griffiths Bldg Salford Manchester, with his two sisters, Mary CAMPBELL nee Bryce and Agnes BRYCE where John Campbell and his wife Mary my gggrandparents and children were about to emigrate to Australia where they landed in October 1851.. I have searched every State in Australia and can find no trace of James and his family either emigrating to Australia or returning to Scotland Any help is appreciated, Thanks and Happy Christmas. Gay -----

Many thanks Nivard. Thank you for looking up those records. The record from Castle Garden fits perfect with the U.S. 1880 census as far as age. Thanks for the LDS records, I have their reference, but from past experience looking at LDS extracts it is always good to confirm with actual records when possible, details are always good, but dates and details can sometimes get confuse when the information is enter into their computer, sometimes a simple transcribing error. Besides the actual marriage record might have a goldmine of information. Many thanks for http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ I wish we had access to records that easy in the U.S., you are having a good day here if you can find records from the 1800's. Is the LDS extract from records in Glasgow and was Glasgow part of Lanarkshire at the time?, please forgive the question, but if it helps to understand the area better when looking for records. Thanks again for the web sites and taking the time to look-up the information. Regards Warren ____________________________________________________ Hi again Sorry I should have also added that the IGI entry as follows E. G. SHIELDS Spouse: JOSEPH STONE Marriage: 18 NOV 1867 Central District, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland M116441 1855 - 1874 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE As its an extraction should be sound but unusual to find a bride with initials only (bit odd that) But the Lanark you see is the LDS abbreviation for Lanarkshire (although there is a Lanark *in* Lanarkshire ) On the premise that they were out of Scotland by 1871, I looked at Castle Garden to see what Joseph STONE there might be and found Last name First name Age Sex Arrival Date Place of last residence STONE JOSEPH 28 M 17 Jan 1868 STONE ELIZABETH 21 F 17 Jan 1868 Ship = Europe Port of Departure = Glasgow Destination = USA Occupation = unknown Paid by = self Country of birth = Scotland same details for both >From http://www.castlegarden.org/ nb details on passenger lists are often found to be more what fitted best for the Country they were immigrating into rather than facts Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi again Sorry I should have also added that the IGI entry as follows E. G. SHIELDS Spouse: JOSEPH STONE Marriage: 18 NOV 1867 Central District, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland M116441 1855 - 1874 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE As its an extraction should be sound but unusual to find a bride with initials only (bit odd that) But the Lanark you see is the LDS abbreviation for Lanarkshire (although there is a Lanark *in* Lanarkshire ) On the premise that they were out of Scotland by 1871, I looked at Castle Garden to see what Joseph STONE there might be and found Last name First name Age Sex Arrival Date Place of last residence STONE JOSEPH 28 M 17 Jan 1868 STONE ELIZABETH 21 F 17 Jan 1868 Ship = Europe Port of Departure = Glasgow Destination = USA Occupation = unknown Paid by = self Country of birth = Scotland same details for both >From http://www.castlegarden.org/ nb details on passenger lists are often found to be more what fitted best for the Country they were immigrating into rather than facts Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I have the following record that I found on familysearch.org > Joseph Stone - E.G. Shields, 18 Nov 1867 Central District, Glasgow, > Lanark, > Scotland > > I would like to to get a copy of the actual record. How do I go about > getting a copy of that marriage record? > > My great grandfather was Joseph Stone and my great grandmother was > Elizabeth > Shields, I don't know if that is their marriage record, but I am > interested > in finding out. Here is what I know about them. The only record I have > of > them is the 1880 U.S. census record. > 1880 Town of Beaver, Mahoning county, Ohio U.S. > Joseph Stone, age 40 occupation Coal Digger, birth place England, wife > Elizabeth Stone, age 34, birthplace Ireland (I have numerous family > records > that say her birthplace is Scotland). Daughter Martha Stone (my > grandmother) age 9 Birthplace Canada (her marriage license gives Nova > Scotia > as her birthplace). Son Joseph Stone age 8, birthplace Pennsylvania, Son > Adam age 7 (Adam was the Sheriff to Mahoning county from 1928 - 1934), > birthplace Pennsylvania, son William age 4, birthplace Pennsylvania. > Daughter, Sarah J., age 3 birthplace Pennsylvania, daughter Julia, age 1 > birthplace Pennsylvania. > > So much for the U.S. census. I know that all of the children above were > not > born in Pennsylvania, and I have numerous records that state their mother > was Elizabeth Shields and she was born in Scotland. My grandmother > Martha > Stone, appears to be their oldest child, she was born about 1871, all > records say she was born in Canada and one record that says Nova Scotia, > (perhaps Halifax, which is a port of entry). > > I don't know if Joseph Stone - E.G. Shields, 18 Nov 1867 Central District, > Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, are my great grandparents, but I would like to > try to get more information. I am open to any suggestions. Is Lanark a > town in the county of Glasgow? are marriage records kept in the county? > > I had and aunt who pass away over 30 years ago, but in the mid 1900's she > was corresponding with this Shields family. Some members of this Shields > family had move to Australia and somehow they were involved in the Lace > industry. > > Many thanks in advance for any information and best wishes to the group. > Warren Lambing > Wellsville, New York, U.S.A

Hi Warren Relatively easy for once although there is a slight problem in that there are no marriages at any time for a Joseph STONE to an Elizabeth SHIELDS Go to http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ You will need to register and then buy some credits Read the FAQs and instructions But for your search select Marriages from the Statutory records on the left of home page Enter STONE and SHIELDS in the surname boxes and search (as there are only two you do not need to enter more detail) You will find only two marriages for those surnames and as a page of 25 hits will cost the same as 1, you may as well have the two hits on one page (one credit needed to see search results) One of those two marriages is a Joseph STONE and a SHIELDS (but not an Elizabeth) See what the result is for the 1867 marriage and if it looks promising you can use 5 more credits to download the certificate You get quite a good amount of information from a Scots marriage so see what you find on the cert and you may be able to progress more whilst you are there 30 credits was 6 quid which I understand is going up in the new year Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I have the following record that I found on familysearch.org > Joseph Stone - E.G. Shields, 18 Nov 1867 Central District, Glasgow, > Lanark, > Scotland > > I would like to to get a copy of the actual record. How do I go about > getting a copy of that marriage record? > > My great grandfather was Joseph Stone and my great grandmother was > Elizabeth > Shields, I don't know if that is their marriage record, but I am > interested > in finding out. Here is what I know about them. The only record I have > of > them is the 1880 U.S. census record. > 1880 Town of Beaver, Mahoning county, Ohio U.S. > Joseph Stone, age 40 occupation Coal Digger, birth place England, wife > Elizabeth Stone, age 34, birthplace Ireland (I have numerous family > records > that say her birthplace is Scotland). Daughter Martha Stone (my > grandmother) age 9 Birthplace Canada (her marriage license gives Nova > Scotia > as her birthplace). Son Joseph Stone age 8, birthplace Pennsylvania, Son > Adam age 7 (Adam was the Sheriff to Mahoning county from 1928 - 1934), > birthplace Pennsylvania, son William age 4, birthplace Pennsylvania. > Daughter, Sarah J., age 3 birthplace Pennsylvania, daughter Julia, age 1 > birthplace Pennsylvania. > > So much for the U.S. census. I know that all of the children above were > not > born in Pennsylvania, and I have numerous records that state their mother > was Elizabeth Shields and she was born in Scotland. My grandmother > Martha > Stone, appears to be their oldest child, she was born about 1871, all > records say she was born in Canada and one record that says Nova Scotia, > (perhaps Halifax, which is a port of entry). > > I don't know if Joseph Stone - E.G. Shields, 18 Nov 1867 Central District, > Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, are my great grandparents, but I would like to > try to get more information. I am open to any suggestions. Is Lanark a > town in the county of Glasgow? are marriage records kept in the county? > > I had and aunt who pass away over 30 years ago, but in the mid 1900's she > was corresponding with this Shields family. Some members of this Shields > family had move to Australia and somehow they were involved in the Lace > industry. > > Many thanks in advance for any information and best wishes to the group. > Warren Lambing > Wellsville, New York, U.S.A

I have the following record that I found on familysearch.org Joseph Stone - E.G. Shields, 18 Nov 1867 Central District, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland I would like to to get a copy of the actual record. How do I go about getting a copy of that marriage record? My great grandfather was Joseph Stone and my great grandmother was Elizabeth Shields, I don't know if that is their marriage record, but I am interested in finding out. Here is what I know about them. The only record I have of them is the 1880 U.S. census record. 1880 Town of Beaver, Mahoning county, Ohio U.S. Joseph Stone, age 40 occupation Coal Digger, birth place England, wife Elizabeth Stone, age 34, birthplace Ireland (I have numerous family records that say her birthplace is Scotland). Daughter Martha Stone (my grandmother) age 9 Birthplace Canada (her marriage license gives Nova Scotia as her birthplace). Son Joseph Stone age 8, birthplace Pennsylvania, Son Adam age 7 (Adam was the Sheriff to Mahoning county from 1928 - 1934), birthplace Pennsylvania, son William age 4, birthplace Pennsylvania. Daughter, Sarah J., age 3 birthplace Pennsylvania, daughter Julia, age 1 birthplace Pennsylvania. So much for the U.S. census. I know that all of the children above were not born in Pennsylvania, and I have numerous records that state their mother was Elizabeth Shields and she was born in Scotland. My grandmother Martha Stone, appears to be their oldest child, she was born about 1871, all records say she was born in Canada and one record that says Nova Scotia, (perhaps Halifax, which is a port of entry). I don't know if Joseph Stone - E.G. Shields, 18 Nov 1867 Central District, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, are my great grandparents, but I would like to try to get more information. I am open to any suggestions. Is Lanark a town in the county of Glasgow? are marriage records kept in the county? I had and aunt who pass away over 30 years ago, but in the mid 1900's she was corresponding with this Shields family. Some members of this Shields family had move to Australia and somehow they were involved in the Lace industry. Many thanks in advance for any information and best wishes to the group. Warren Lambing Wellsville, New York, U.S.A

Bob, In a small Co. Tyrone town where the Duff family was the prominent famiy in the town, at a social in the village hall the currate said there were only two types in Bally----- were the Duffs and the duffers ----- Original Message ----- From: "the duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Orphans? > Thank you Gay. I think you email better demonstrated my problem. I would > love to believe that this John DUFF is mine, but there is nothing that > links > them - no occupation, name similarities to future generations (no future > Sallys or Isabellas). Any thoughts? > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Gay Fielding > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 8:52 PM > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Orphans? > > Hi Bob, > I checked the 1841 Free Census for you, not that I have anything > definite > for you and found :- > > Piece: SCT1841/722 Place: Tranent -East Lothian Enumeration District: 11 > Civil Parish: Tranent (Part Of) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or > Island: - > Folio: 8 Page: 5 and Page 6 > Address: Myles > > DUFF John M 30 Agricultural Labourer Outside Census County > (1841) XXXX > DUFF Isabella F 30 Outside Census County (1841) > DUFF Isabella F 13 Outside Census County (1841) > DUFF John M 10 Outside Census County (1841) > DUFF Janet F 8 Outside Census County (1841) YYYY > > Another Record which may or may not help > > Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 3 > Civil Parish: Glasgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: > Folio: 59 Page: 1 > Address: 81 Bridgegate Street > > Both John and Sally DUFF aged 10 , > both born in Lanarkshire, working as Fleshers > Address: Lady Marshalls Close > > And another at > > Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 27 > Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Stephens > Folio: 62 Page: 11 > Address: Sauchiehall Street > > DUFF John M 10 born Lanarkshire > > Good Luck > Gay > > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information > pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; > or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or > unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the > list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list > information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Very grateful thanks to all the folks who replied to my query today as well. I now have the information that I need. Doreen. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1896 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Doreen, Although your question has been answered, here's a relatively easy way to figure it out: Grandparents: One G. 1st Cousin Great-Grandparents: Two Gs. 2nd Cousin Great-Great-Grandparents: 3Gs. 3rd Cousin 'Removed' merely means the difference in generations you are to another person. If person 'A' has John Smith for a Grandfather, and person 'B' has John Smith for a Great-Grandfather, that would make it first cousins ONCE removed, as there is one generation difference - it is irrelevant of 'Life' generations (Baby-boomers, X-Generation, Y-Generation, ME-Generation etc...) Dean Scapolo Newlands, Wellington, NZ New Zealand Music Charts Consultant (Informal) http://nzchartbooks.blogspot.com/ http://www.abbamail.com/nzchart_book.htm

Doreen, Basically to find the relationship go back to your common ancestor and add one to the number of greats and this gives you the number of cousins, that is if you are both on the same generation. If not then you are "removed" for each generation apart. Regards Kerry Anne Merry