Does anyone know where I can find records of a divorce in Scotland between 1963 -1970 without taking the trip to Edinburgh. Thanks   Margaret Ontario

I have no vested interest in research provided by Graham Maxwell: http://www.maxwellancestry.com/ However, I thought I would suggest this website as it is informative about services available. Graham Maxwell and his wife do genealogy research as a business and live in Dumfries. He charges a fee for his services. He goes to Edinburgh on a regular basis to do research, but I do not know if he confines himself to finding documents for the whole of Scotland or just for Southwest Scotland. Graham Maxwell did find information for me through my ‘sleuth friend’ on a Paternity Order against a great-grandfather of mine. Instead of the child being stigmatised as illegitimate, shall we say, by going through life with his mother’s maiden surname, he then carried his (illegitimate!) father’s name. The father then had to pay ‘child support’ for this son born out of wedlock until he was fourteen years of age. Presumably in the early 1860s, a young teen would have been considered old enough to go out to work at the age of fourteen and would no longer be eligible for ‘child support,’ Just hazarding a guess. Totally different scenario nowadays here in the USA., of course. Maisie

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-27205043 With appreciation to Jenelle McCarrick of the Lanark list for this link. Maisie

The following links will introduce you to information on workhouses in G.B., and of the City Poorhouse, Glasgow. The age-old question of why Glasgow has to destroy everything in its path instead of regenerating buildings such as in Southwell, England, is unfathomable. http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Glasgow/ http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/record/rcahms/163962/glasgow-286-parliamentary-road-lunatic-asylum/rcahms Notes from my friend: Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England, has an enormous Minster and in olden times it was a more important place. The town still has the building of the old workhouse which has been fully restored by the National Trust. The old infirmary building has been converted into a residential hostel for children. In the mid 1800s the infirmary would have been the only medical facility available to the normal population and many a birth took place there especially the 'naughty girl' ones. (Did the ‘naughty boys’ get off scot-free?) My friend has a grandson who suffers from autism and spends 35 days annually at this workhouse which has been converted into a residential children’s hostel. He loves it there. It offers respite care for his whole family. hhttps://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.081823 http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/thecouncil/news/pressreleases/?EntryId138=192425 But for the grace of God go I…but why I but not thousands of innocent others down through the ages?…never could figure out that aphorism! I’m only too grateful that all my life I have been living so far removed from such circumstances. Maisie

Genealogy Tours of Scotland Blog Part 1FYI and for no other reason. I had no heard of the Old Calton/Weavers’ Cemetery. In addition to imports, many handloom weavers lost their livelihood when the looms became mechanised (which the Luddites tried to foil to no avail as they could not stop progress). Some of my handloom weaver relatives came to Glasgow from Ireland and had to change ‘professions,’ one becoming a lamplighter. Others were paupers and were buried in ‘common ground’ near Glasgow Cathedral. Christine Woodcock was formerly active on the Lanark list. She has an abiding interest in her Scottish roots and organises annual trips to learn more about genealogy, usually based in Edinburgh. Please take a few minutes to read her blog and links which I am sure you will find of interest. Maisie From: Christine Woodcock, Genealogy Tours of Scotland Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:13 AM To: Maisie Subject: Genealogy Tours of Scotland Blog Part 1 We arrived ahead of the rest of the group. Here's what we have been up to over the weekend. View this email in your browser Genealogy Tours of Scotland 2014 The 2014 trip is about to get underway I am looking forward to sharing our time in Scotland with you and am excited about the genealogy adventures that await us As always, I have arrived ahead of the group. It has been a busy and fulfilling weekend. So much of our Glasgow history takes place in the Calton area. This year, we chose to take a walk along the Calton heritage trail to really gain a deeper sense of the area where our ancestors lived, worked and played. More on our walk can be found in the Calton Heritage Trail blog post: http://genealogytoursofscotland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/calton-heritage-trail.html I am a certified taphophile. A taphophile. also known as a tombstone tourist, is someone who travels to cemeteries to see the stones. and monuments and who has more of an interest in the history of the cemetery or the persons interred there rather than going to mourn for someone they are actually connected to. Every year when I travel to Scotland, I spend time in the old cemeteries, often trying to seek out different ones each year. This year, my first stop was the Old Calton... Burial Ground in Glasgow, also known as the Weaver's Cemetery. This Cemetery was created by the Calton Weavers Incorporated in 1787. The blog post on the Old Calton Burial Ground can be read here: http://genealogytoursofscotland.blogspot.com/2014/05/old-calton-burial-grounds.html Today I enlisted the assistance of Ian Walker from Borders Journeys (www.bordersjourneys.co.uk) to take me to Kingstown, a village outside of Carlisle England. This is where my maternal grandmother was born and where her family lived for generations. This was an emotionally packed day and I was delighted with the assistance provided by Ian. More on our day south of the border can be found on the Journey South of the Border blog post: http://genealogytoursofscotland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/borders-journeys-ancestral-tour-to.html Copyright © 2014 Genealogy Tour of Scotland, All rights reserved. Thanks for signing up to keep up to date on our 2014 research tour in Scotland Our mailing address is: Genealogy Tour of Scotland 794 Colborne St PO Box 22031 Brantford, ON N3S 7V1 Canada Add us to your address book unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences

Hi all Posted today on the WW1 list was an enquiry regarding a small bible found in Glasgow It has an inscription Sarah McDonald and date 17.1.1917 hand-written and the inscription from Lord Roberts on the inside cover. The enquiry can be read here <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/WW1-UK/2014-04/1398899993> Its a slim chance I know but should someone have a Sarah MCDONALD, possibly whose father went off to war in 1917 perhaps its worth following up You don't know if you don't ask I find -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hello All, My father. James Forrester Wilson, was born at Baillieston exactly 100 years ago, so we are remembering him and the family today. My father was the son of Matthew, born at Baillieston in 1879, and his father John was born in Baillieston in 1840. John’s father, Thomas, was said to be born at Hamilton in 1810, but that is where I come to a full stop. My grandfather’s brother James, born at Baillieston in 1881 served in the First World War, and I would really like to be able to find out something of his war service. My father came to Australia with his family in 1928. There are a couple of full stops here, and I would really like to be able to make a break through, but it seems to be too difficult. I thought that raising the question today may be a good thing to do in remembrance of my father and the family. I really expect that this is all too difficult, but a person can remain hopeful. Any ideas would be very gratefully accepted. Regards, Janet Wilson.

Formely, I found out burial information for my forebears in Sighthill cemetery through the Bereavement Services, but I see things have changed, as follows: :::The burial registers which were digitised for Glasgow were those which were previously held by Glasgow City Council's Bereavement Services. As we (Glasgow Archives) now deal with all enquiries relating to historic burials, they will not be able to assist you with finding entries relating to the Pope family. ::: :::In terms of finding current masons near Sighthill Cemetery, this may be something which Bereavement Services can advise on. Their contact details are as follows:::: Bereavement Services 20 Trongate Glasgow G1 5ES Tel: 0141 287 3961 Email: [email protected]

WOW! Thanks for all the information. I shall print it off and quietly study it. I'm a female, living in the U.S. but my father was born & raised in Scotland. He's gone now and the only male Scottish first cousins are in South Africa and Canada. I'll give it a good try to get them involved. Best thing is if I were to order and go from there. I'l keep reading! Thanks again. Jeannette

Hoping someone can help in deciphering this occupation from a birth entry dated 1877 on Scotlands People Something stock? Labourer Many thanks Anne Megget New Zealand

Hi folks, Thought I had better respond in some detail given the very helpful contributions from Tom and Dora. Firstly to declare an interest. In a personal capacity, I am genealogist of Clan Sutherland and a Co-Administrator of the Sutherland DNA group at FTDNA. I am also about to become a Co-Administrator of the Ancient Murray-Sutherland-Douglas section of the Murray DNA group. Now to confirm Tom's remarks. There is a project called Scotlands DNA which is widely promoted in The Scotsman newspaper. It seeks to identify the make-up of the present day Scottish male population. It is as Tom said, interested in the deep ancestry of modern day Scots, in other words their Haplogroups and SNP markers (backwards from around 1100AD) rather than the STR markers which give modern day relationships back for 24 generations. As my yDNA is English, one of my uncles has participated as surrogate for our entire branch of the Sutherland family. Our origins as reputed descendants of Freskyn whom Dora referred to, are Flemish and sure enough, in that project, my uncle was found to be part of a group representing fewer than 1% of modern Scottish males, so few in fact they don't test for the further down strands. Our haplogroup is often known as P312 or R1b1a2a1a1b though this has recently been changed to R1b1a1a1a1a and it is common among Flemish Scots. Most of the Scottish clans and families now have their own individual projects at FTDNA. You can find the Sutherland one here if you are unfamiliar with them: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Sutherland/default.aspx?section=yresult s . We have split it into a number of groups, each representing a distinct group and most of these groups cannot be related to one another. There are basically 4 types of families who have the surname Sutherland. 1) the direct male descendants of Freskyn of Moravia 2) men descended from families who married into the Sutherland family and took our name 3) men descended from principal retainers and tenants who took our name 4) men descended from the locals who were there when we drove out the Norwegian supporting families and took our name for protection We have groups who have the Pictish yDNA, who have Scandinavian yDNA, who have Scots-Irish yDNA and of course Flemish yDNA. We also have some who are not actually Sutherlands but probably descended from "a non-paternal event" such as adoption or unrecognised illegitimacy and were given their mother's name. Dora mentioned Freskyn and the Murrays. In fact it was the Earls and Dukes of Atholl (not Moray who are Stewarts/Stuarts) who are reputed to share descent from Freskyn. Freskyn's elder son went down into Perthshire and his younger son over to Suderland after he had defeated the Norwegian/Orcadian supporting occupants of the Moray Firth and built his stronghold at Duffus, where his castle stands today, almost 900 years later. You can find the Murray project here: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/murray/default.aspx?section=yresults We have identified one group in the Sutherland project where the paper descent from Freskyn and yDNA match. We have also recently discovered that some of the Murray project members are starting to show a match. In addition we have discovered a group in the Douglas project who also match. Willem de Duglis, founder of the Douglas family was also son of a Flemish noble and believed to be cousin of Freskyn. Their sons acted as witness to land charters for one another in the late 1100s. Now the yDNA proves this and we are starting to re-write 12th and 13th century Scottish history. I am lucky enough, through my mother to be the nephew of one of the members of the relevant Sutherland group and can therefore categorically state I am a 28x great grandson of Freskyn of Moravia even though I haven't yet worked out which of 10 men with the same name in the same generation on the enormous Sutherland Family Tree I am descended from. The DNA projects are fantastic but the hard work researching original documents and other records must continue. In my case that will eliminate the 9 Alexanders who are not mine and leave only the Alexander who is. Regards, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 26 April 2014 19:42 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Lanark] Scotland's DNA program Jeannette can participate if she gets a male relative of whatever line she's interested in to test, and manages his Y DNA. (Don't tell FTDNA you're doing that, just list her own e-mail address for his and that will do it. Use her own mailing address as well if she needs to make sure he does the sample.) You need convincing evidence your ancestors lived in Scotland; it need not be proof. People of Scotch-Irish ancestry can join, and 20% of them originated in England, Germany, the Netherlands, and France. People of Calvinistic theology, which included the Puritans, tended to worship together in Ireland, and in the north they eventually would become Presbyterian, and they blended from there. The leaders of that project are seriously nuts, which is why I removed my self from it - though the Y DNA firmly locates my male line ancestors between the north bank of the Forth of Firth and the Gask Ridge. For instance, my brother in law belongs to the Isles-Scottish haplotype, which originated in southwestern Scotland and was confined there until 1500. One of the managers of the Scotland DNA project excitedly told me, over the phone, that this is "pure Pictish" DNA. The Picts were not an ethnic group, to start with, and they originated in northeastern Scotland, and spread through southeastern and central Scotland. They never even made it to Galloway. These people are like the guy who goes around doing documentaries for the Genographic progject and insisting that "we are all Phoenicians". Isn't Sutherland the other aristocratic lineage that descends from Freskin? Or is that Sunderland? If it's Sutherland and you have any direct paper trail or firmly proven Y DNA match that ties into that line, you could also join the Flemish ancestry DNA project. Not sure it's exact name but I was looking at it only yesterday. If you google Flemish in Britain or in Scotland it will come up. AND, Murrays are sort of working on identifying the Y DNA lineage of the Earls of Moray, which is the same male lineage. One of my brother's close Y DNA matches is an entire family group who insist they are illegimately descended from the Earls of Tullibardine, which is a line of the Earls of Moray. This is improbable as that Y DNA should be thickly scattered across Scotland, and this family has only two close matches; my Scotch Irish Smiths, and a family of coal mining serfs who lived 10 miles from Tullibardine. What that likely means is that this particular Murray family got the Murray surname by living on Murray lands. But I'd definitely be seriously interested in known Y DNA of the Earls of Sutherland. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sutherland-Fisher (HFH) Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:04 PM To: 'Jeannette Walton' ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Lanark] Scotland's DNA program Jeannette, You certainly don't need to live in Scotland to participate though as a woman I don't think it would be worth your while participating since you don't have yDNA. You would be better participating in the FTDNA programme which also examines mDNA carried by women. If you Google it you will find the website. Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeannette Walton Sent: 26 April 2014 16:51 To: [email protected] Subject: [Lanark] Scotland's DNA program Does anybody know about the Scotland's DNA project? Must you live in Scotland to participate? Thanks, Jeannette, ginger haired whose family is on the Glasgow side. ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. 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Maisie Being born and raised in Edinburgh, I have to say that I very rarely came across anyone with red hair - family or friends/acquaintances. Of my 16 GG Grandparents, 8 were born in Ireland, 7 in Scotland (of Scottish parents) and 1 in England (Lancashire, of probably English descent). I was born with blond hair and evolved into a brunette, with green eyes. My mother was a brunette with blue eyes and my father (3/4 Irish) was black-haired with blue eyes. I have noticed that golden-red hair is not uncommon amongst those born in Germany (Boris Becker, for example), so perhaps the red-hair gene in South-East Scotland has its origins in those of Anglo-Saxon descent. The Kingdom of Northumbria (North-East England/South-East Scotland 7th - 10th centuries) was an Anglo-Saxon kingdom. Rhoda -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 3:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Lanark] Home of the ginger-haired Fancy that now! Maisie ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Auld Reekie is world capital for ginger hair Helen McArdle News Reporter The Herald Saturday 26 April 2014 EDINBURGH is the world capital for the red-hair gene according to DNA research which is also shattering popular beliefs about the origins of the trait. Scientists working on Scotland's DNA project have discovered that variants of the red-hair gene are carried by 40% of the population in the south-east region, compared to rates of 35% in the west and 37% in north-east Scotland. In north-west Scotland, taking in the isle of Lewis, the proportion of carriers drops to just 29% - putting it on a par with Devon and Cornwall in England.

Jeannette, You certainly don't need to live in Scotland to participate though as a woman I don't think it would be worth your while participating since you don't have yDNA. You would be better participating in the FTDNA programme which also examines mDNA carried by women. If you Google it you will find the website. Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeannette Walton Sent: 26 April 2014 16:51 To: [email protected] Subject: [Lanark] Scotland's DNA program Does anybody know about the Scotland's DNA project? Must you live in Scotland to participate? Thanks, Jeannette, ginger haired whose family is on the Glasgow side. ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeannette can participate if she gets a male relative of whatever line she's interested in to test, and manages his Y DNA. (Don't tell FTDNA you're doing that, just list her own e-mail address for his and that will do it. Use her own mailing address as well if she needs to make sure he does the sample.) You need convincing evidence your ancestors lived in Scotland; it need not be proof. People of Scotch-Irish ancestry can join, and 20% of them originated in England, Germany, the Netherlands, and France. People of Calvinistic theology, which included the Puritans, tended to worship together in Ireland, and in the north they eventually would become Presbyterian, and they blended from there. The leaders of that project are seriously nuts, which is why I removed my self from it - though the Y DNA firmly locates my male line ancestors between the north bank of the Forth of Firth and the Gask Ridge. For instance, my brother in law belongs to the Isles-Scottish haplotype, which originated in southwestern Scotland and was confined there until 1500. One of the managers of the Scotland DNA project excitedly told me, over the phone, that this is "pure Pictish" DNA. The Picts were not an ethnic group, to start with, and they originated in northeastern Scotland, and spread through southeastern and central Scotland. They never even made it to Galloway. These people are like the guy who goes around doing documentaries for the Genographic progject and insisting that "we are all Phoenicians". Isn't Sutherland the other aristocratic lineage that descends from Freskin? Or is that Sunderland? If it's Sutherland and you have any direct paper trail or firmly proven Y DNA match that ties into that line, you could also join the Flemish ancestry DNA project. Not sure it's exact name but I was looking at it only yesterday. If you google Flemish in Britain or in Scotland it will come up. AND, Murrays are sort of working on identifying the Y DNA lineage of the Earls of Moray, which is the same male lineage. One of my brother's close Y DNA matches is an entire family group who insist they are illegimately descended from the Earls of Tullibardine, which is a line of the Earls of Moray. This is improbable as that Y DNA should be thickly scattered across Scotland, and this family has only two close matches; my Scotch Irish Smiths, and a family of coal mining serfs who lived 10 miles from Tullibardine. What that likely means is that this particular Murray family got the Murray surname by living on Murray lands. But I'd definitely be seriously interested in known Y DNA of the Earls of Sutherland. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sutherland-Fisher (HFH) Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:04 PM To: 'Jeannette Walton' ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Lanark] Scotland's DNA program Jeannette, You certainly don't need to live in Scotland to participate though as a woman I don't think it would be worth your while participating since you don't have yDNA. You would be better participating in the FTDNA programme which also examines mDNA carried by women. If you Google it you will find the website. Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeannette Walton Sent: 26 April 2014 16:51 To: [email protected] Subject: [Lanark] Scotland's DNA program Does anybody know about the Scotland's DNA project? Must you live in Scotland to participate? Thanks, Jeannette, ginger haired whose family is on the Glasgow side. ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Oops, not sure I sent my email response to the right email. On Saturday, April 26, 2014 11:12 AM, Tom McMillan <[email protected]> wrote: There is what's called a Scottish Project at Family Tree DNA. This is what it says: " Description: The project welcomes individuals who have an unbroken Scottish lineage on their direct paternal (yDNA) or maternal (mtDNA) line of descent. For example - father > grandfather > great-grandfather > great-great-grandfather or mother > grandmother > great-grandmother > great-great-grandmother etc. The project was originally established in October 2001 as the Scottish Clans DNA Project, but is now administered by the Genealogical Studies team at the University of Strathclyde, Glasgow, Scotland. The project merged with the Scotland DNA Project in 2012. The Scottish DNA Project has no connection with the company called Scotlandsdna who only test for 'deep ancestry'. (Scotlandsdna is run by Alastair Moffat and Jim Wilson). If you are interested in using DNA for genealogical purposes and would like to find out about your deeper ancestral origins then first order a Y-DNA kit (paternal ancestry) or a mtDNA kit (maternal ancestry). Project goals • Provide a database of Scottish yDNA and mtDNA test results useful for personal and academic research" So maybe the reference is to the project "Scotlandsdna"? Personally, I've had the male Y-DNA test at FTDNA to try to make connections to my McMillan/McMullan ancestor's. I've had some success in making connections, but not yet able to determine who the common ancestor was with those I match. I'm still hopeful for a little closer match to come along. I've also had autosomal DNA tests through ancestry.com; 23andMe; and Family Finder at Family Tree DNA. These can help find cousins going back a number of generations. I've found advantages and disadvantages for each of the testing companies. A free website gedmatch.com has been helpful in overcoming some of the disadvantages where a person can determine what chromosomes they match others at. Currently, ancestry.com doesn't provide a way to compare chromosomes, but I've found more possible common surnames at ancestry.com I've found the autosomal tests to be very time consuming, but I've also had some success in finding common ancestor's. I've been able to take one family line back from 1820 to 1620 which added several new surnames to my ancestry, as a result of my autosomal DNA test, and have had several other successes so far. But, it is a lot of work, so be prepared if you hope to find ancestor's this way. Thanks!! Tom McMillan (Washougal, WA, USA) On Saturday, April 26, 2014 10:05 AM, Mark Sutherland-Fisher (HFH) <[email protected]> wrote: Jeannette, You certainly don't need to live in Scotland to participate though as a woman I don't think it would be worth your while participating since you don't have yDNA. You would be better participating in the FTDNA programme which also examines mDNA carried by women. If you Google it you will find the website. Mark

Maisie, Red hair is the gift of the gods :-)  The gene is recessive and can lay in the weeds, so to speak for several generations before matching with another recessive red-hair gene from a mate. The blonde hair when young gradually turning dark when older is a fairly common, European gene.  I have it as I was blonde as a child, and gradually my hair turned brown - white now ;-)  lol...at least I have hair :-) There was a study done in the U.S. some years ago which found that red-headed people are more sensitive to painful and pleasurable feelings.  They were more susceptible to colds too.  The link that you have flies in the opposite direction for some reason or other. Let me see if I can dig up an article on hair colors that I have... Good hunting, Cliff. ________________________________ From: Maisie Egger <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:41 PM Subject: [Lanark] Ginger/red hairf contd. http://forums.canadiancontent.net/science-environment/55627-flaming-heck-first-ever-brits.html Well, I was swallowing much of this article until I came to the notion that redheads can tolerate pain, heat and spicy foods better than others.  Any person I have known who leans toward red hair, fair skin and freckles, does not do well in hot weather, the writer included.  My pain tolerance is zilch! I do not know the colour of hair of my father’s parents, but he and his cousin had decidedly ginger hair as their mother and father, respectively, were brother and sister. This family link came from Southwest Scotland.  My mother had somewhat auburn hair, but by the time I ‘knew her’ (was aware of such things!) her hair was light brown.  Her mother was half-and-half Irish as was her father.  No red hair from the mixture of Irish, Highland or the Central Belt. Of my siblings, two brothers were born blond, with only one retaining this hair colour into his 80s.  Two sisters and two other brothers were brown-haired, then I was born with strawberry blonde hair which later darkened to a light auburn.  The last daughter had the most glorious Titian red hair.  In effect then only two of us seemed to have carried down the red hair gene. Only one male child of my blond brother and his light-haired wife seems to have inherited the ginger hair from my father.  Some other grandchildren, even those of Irish ‘blood’, started out blond, but then their hair darkened as they grew older.  No red hair among any of them. My own children, the product of an Irish/Austrian (American) father and me of Heinz’s 57 British Isles variety, do not have one strand of red hair among the three of them  My son and older daughter were ‘pure blond’ when they were born.  My son’s hair darkened to a deep brown, whilst my blonde-haired daughter has remained a blonde, now with the help of Miss Clairol!  My younger daughter was born a brunette and has remained so.  My husband’s hair darkened as he became older, but again, no red hair from his Irish side. Some of my grandchildren were born blond. With some, their hair has darkened, BUT two of the grandsons now sport marvellous red moustaches and beards, even though their hair colour does not match.  They have mixed Italian/British Isles  genes from their other grandparents. No redheads, carrot tops or  ginger hair among the six great-grandchildren, just a few blondes.  The assumption is that the red-haired gene has died out. Maybe.  There could be a recessive  gene or two that could pop up with their children. I don’t see many red haired people where we live in California, but I knew a lot of girls in Glasgow when I was growing up who had variations of red/ginger hair. Maisie   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anybody know about the Scotland's DNA project? Must you live in Scotland to participate? Thanks, Jeannette, ginger haired whose family is on the Glasgow side.

Bob, Thanks ever so much! Lorraine -----Original Message----- From: hiflyte <[email protected]> To: Lanark - List <[email protected]>; Sct-GlW <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Apr 26, 2014 9:40 am Subject: [Lanark] Notice SP extended credits Hi All, If you happen to have a ScotlandsPeople account with expired credits they have issued a "Special Bulletin " that extends your expired credits for 365 days. See Features & Latest News on the SP home page http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Have a nice weekend Bob CDN ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/science-environment/55627-flaming-heck-first-ever-brits.html Well, I was swallowing much of this article until I came to the notion that redheads can tolerate pain, heat and spicy foods better than others. Any person I have known who leans toward red hair, fair skin and freckles, does not do well in hot weather, the writer included. My pain tolerance is zilch! I do not know the colour of hair of my father’s parents, but he and his cousin had decidedly ginger hair as their mother and father, respectively, were brother and sister. This family link came from Southwest Scotland. My mother had somewhat auburn hair, but by the time I ‘knew her’ (was aware of such things!) her hair was light brown. Her mother was half-and-half Irish as was her father. No red hair from the mixture of Irish, Highland or the Central Belt. Of my siblings, two brothers were born blond, with only one retaining this hair colour into his 80s. Two sisters and two other brothers were brown-haired, then I was born with strawberry blonde hair which later darkened to a light auburn. The last daughter had the most glorious Titian red hair. In effect then only two of us seemed to have carried down the red hair gene. Only one male child of my blond brother and his light-haired wife seems to have inherited the ginger hair from my father. Some other grandchildren, even those of Irish ‘blood’, started out blond, but then their hair darkened as they grew older. No red hair among any of them. My own children, the product of an Irish/Austrian (American) father and me of Heinz’s 57 British Isles variety, do not have one strand of red hair among the three of them My son and older daughter were ‘pure blond’ when they were born. My son’s hair darkened to a deep brown, whilst my blonde-haired daughter has remained a blonde, now with the help of Miss Clairol! My younger daughter was born a brunette and has remained so. My husband’s hair darkened as he became older, but again, no red hair from his Irish side. Some of my grandchildren were born blond. With some, their hair has darkened, BUT two of the grandsons now sport marvellous red moustaches and beards, even though their hair colour does not match. They have mixed Italian/British Isles genes from their other grandparents. No redheads, carrot tops or ginger hair among the six great-grandchildren, just a few blondes. The assumption is that the red-haired gene has died out. Maybe. There could be a recessive gene or two that could pop up with their children. I don’t see many red haired people where we live in California, but I knew a lot of girls in Glasgow when I was growing up who had variations of red/ginger hair. Maisie

Fancy that now! Maisie ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Auld Reekie is world capital for ginger hair Helen McArdle News Reporter The Herald Saturday 26 April 2014 EDINBURGH is the world capital for the red-hair gene according to DNA research which is also shattering popular beliefs about the origins of the trait. Scientists working on Scotland's DNA project have discovered that variants of the red-hair gene are carried by 40% of the population in the south-east region, compared to rates of 35% in the west and 37% in north-east Scotland. In north-west Scotland, taking in the isle of Lewis, the proportion of carriers drops to just 29% - putting it on a par with Devon and Cornwall in England.