http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28158341 Finally, for future family researchers. Maisie

Send to every PROVINCE, some will no know who DON CHERRY IS! R -----Original Message----- From: gail collins Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 4:33 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [ONTARIO] WWI Anniversary Ceremony Toronto Sun - July 2, 2014 Don Cherry, Hockey Night in Canada commentator, will be on hand at a special commemorative service partnered by Black Creek Pioneer Village and the British Home Children Advocacy and Research Association (BHCARA). This event will honour the British Home Children who fought and perished on the battlefields. Mr. Cherry's grandfather, Richard Palamountain, was a British Home Child who served with the Canadian Expeditionary Force in the First World War. BHC descendant and initiator of British Home Child Day in Ontario, former MPP Jim Brownell will be joining Mr. Cherry as a guest speaker. Mr. Brownell is now honorary Lieutenant Colonel of the Glengarry Highlanders. George Beardshaw, surviving British Home Child and Second World War veteran is our very special guest. The York Regional Police Male Chorus will also be participating in the event as well as cadets from Camp Borden and the Ceremonial Unit of Commissionaires Great Lakes to present a colour guard. Other guest speakers will be piped in by members of the White Heather Pipes and Drums. A Roll of Honour plaque will be unveiled. The bugler is from the Queen's Own Rifles. Padre Gillian Federico will be providing the blessing. >From 1863 -1939, approximately 118,000 children were sent to Canada from >the UK, Known as the British Home Children, they ranged in age from >toddlers to adolescents, and were sent abroad by institutions such as >Barnardo's, Quarrier's, The Salvation Army and the Church of England to >become indentured farm workers and domestics. Some were welcomed into >homes: many more endured the harshest of conditions. When war broke out in 1914, many BHC saw an opportunity to return to their home country and enlisted as soldiers in an attempt to reunite with the families from whom they were taken. Almost 1000 British Home Children lost their lives in this war serving as Canadian soldiers. Join us on July 28th, as we remember those British Home Children who served and those who gave their lives. The ceremony will include presentations, commemorative musical performances and the unveiling of the British Home Child Roll of Honour Plaque. The commemoration ceremony will begin at 9:50 a.m. sharp on Monday July 28th at Black Creek Pioneer Village, 100 Murray Ross Parkway, Toronto. To purchase tickets, please call 416-667-6295 ex.2 For a complete itinerary of the WWI Commemoration Ceremony please visit: http://www.blackcreek.ca/v2/events/wwi-100th-anniversary.dot For more information please contact: Lori Oschefski CEO BHCARA at [email protected] or Sandra Joyce Executive Director Canada BHCARA at [email protected] http://classifieds.torontosun.com/toronto/community-events-calendar/wwi-anniversary-ceremony/D1CA6A8211246256F3mytRD82F08 *********** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://www.geneabloggers.com/ten-people-genealogists-follow-twitter/ Search Ontario Genealogy & Resources at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now this Glasgow Herald online newspaper bugs the heck out of me as one can never read the full article as it is blanked out, unless a sub is paid to the paper. I then went to Google and was able to read the article in full; however, when I clicked on the link for the list, up popped the incomplete article. The only thing I can suggest is if you are interested, go to Google to read the whole article. The Herald newspaper dangles part of the article in front of the reader as a come-on. Some other larger online newspapers require subscriptions right off the bat. The Scotsman. The Guardian, The Belfast Telegraph online versions can be read 'as is.' Maisie -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Lanark] How primitive porridge made Celts top Scots • Genetic genocide: How primitive porridge made Celts top Scots http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/genetic-genocide-how-primitive-porridge-made-celts-top-scots.24609418 Some grist for the mill for Glaswegians. Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

• Genetic genocide: How primitive porridge made Celts top Scots http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/genetic-genocide-how-primitive-porridge-made-celts-top-scots.24609418 Some grist for the mill for Glaswegians. Maisie

Hi Jenny Only a minor point but Ancestry was not hacked Ancestry host Rootsweb lists and when Ancestry was taken down, so was Rootsweb (and others) They suffered a huge DDOS attack, in effect they were bombarded with false traffic which crashed the system No data was accessed, changed or taken No personal details were accessed I thought it worth saying to allay fears if there were any Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/06/2014 11:27, Jennifer Myers wrote: > Billy, trying to see if this site up and running again after Rootsweb, Ancestry and My Family.com being hacked. > > Jenny

Billy I am posting here due to the problems with Ancestry and associated websites... To the Subscribed Members of the Lanarkshire Families & History Group, (MyFamily.com) Whilst overseas in mid May 2014 I paid the yearly subscription to make sure the content of this Group that has been provided by you was kept safe and secure. On my return home to Aus on 6 June I received the following email... MyFamily.com is retiring Over the years we have built up a variety of products that enable our users to discover, preserve and share their family history. We recognize that there are a lot of ways that we, as a company, can make family history easier, more accessible and more fun for people all over the world. In order to do this, we need to focus on our core offerings to ensure we’re delivering the best service and best product experience to our customers. To that end, we’ve decided to invest more aggressively in our core Ancestry.com business and plan to retire the MyFamily.com service. Starting on September 5, 2014, MyFamily.com will no longer be available. We understand the value this service has provided to keep your family connected during your time as a subscriber. To keep the family memories you’ve gathered on MyFamily.com, please log in to your MyFamily group site and request an export by clicking on the “Export Now” button located at the top of the page. There are other services that may provide one or more of the features that MyFamily.com offered, for example: ThisLife by Shutterfly Carousel - the gallery from Dropbox Chatbooks Refunds are currently being processed and will be issued automatically to eligible site owners of active MyFamily sites impacted by the retirement. The refunds are effective as of June 5, 2014 and will be pro-rated to this date. If your account is current as of June 5, 2014, you will have continued access to the site throughout the next 3 months of the retirement period. ------------------------------- Due to difficulties beyond my control, the Group posting I sent out has not delivered into subscriber’s mail boxes... MyFamily.com have returned the Subscription paid without problem. I feel that as more and more information is becoming available on the internet or access to more records is made available there is less use of forums. Apparently during the past year there has not been much discussion or posting to sites such as this so MyFamily.com (Ancestry) have taken this step. I would like to throw open to discussion or comment, the subject of downloading or uploading our content to another site. Do you have pages where our content could be made available? I do have a reasonable amount of web space through my internet provider BUT I don't think I would be "tech savy" enough to do it and keep it as a password site because of some content and hacking. Please if you have any ideas to help out I would love to hear from you via my email address - [email protected] Thank you to everyone who has contributed to our site over the years, Jenny Myers --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hello Jenny I'm glad you've raised this because we too have a MyFamily.com site which has been a big success in keeping contact with our family worldwide. I have written to Ancestry - the situation is very confused. Although the letter gives no indication of alternatives, yesterday, I found this on ( http://www.myfamily.com/group/60761):: Reconnect with your family today by upgrading to an Essentials plan xxxx is an expired site. To make sure that you and everyone else have access to the group and enjoy all the great features you know and love, Upgrade Now! - No ads on your group - Each member can upload 1GB per month10x more than your Basic group - Complete theme library - Customize group features and theme - Personalized URL(e.g., http://myfamily.com/group/yourgroupname/) $29.95 Let's all of us keep in touch with each other. I have a good opinion of Ancestry but think they have lost sight of their customer base with this decision. Ideally we'll get them to reverse their decisions. Kind regards George Whilst overseas in mid May 2014 I paid the yearly subscription to make sure the content of this Group that has been provided by you was kept safe and secure. On my return home to Aus on 6 June I received the following email... MyFamily.com is retiring Over the years we have built up a variety of products that enable our users to discover, preserve and share their family history. We recognize that there are a lot of ways that we, as a company, can make family history easier, more accessible and more fun for people all over the world. In order to do this, we need to focus on our core offerings to ensure we?re delivering the best service and best product experience to our customers. To that end, we?ve decided to invest more aggressively in our core Ancestry.com business and plan to retire the MyFamily.com service. Starting on September 5, 2014, MyFamily.com will no longer be available. We understand the value this service has provided to keep your family connected during your time as a subscriber. To keep the family memories you?ve gathered on MyFamily.com, please log in to your MyFamily group site and request an export by clicking on the ?Export Now? button located at the top of the page. There are other services that may provide one or more of the features that MyFamily.com offered, for example: ThisLife by Shutterfly Carousel - the gallery from Dropbox Chatbooks Refunds are currently being processed and will be issued automatically to eligible site owners of active MyFamily sites impacted by the retirement. The refunds are effective as of June 5, 2014 and will be pro-rated to this date. If your account is current as of June 5, 2014, you will have continued access to the site throughout the next 3 months of the retirement period. ------------------------------- Due to difficulties beyond my control, the Group posting I sent out has not delivered into subscriber?s mail boxes... MyFamily.com have returned the Subscription paid without problem. I feel that as more and more information is becoming available on the internet or access to more records is made available there is less use of forums. Apparently during the past year there has not been much discussion or posting to sites such as this so MyFamily.com (Ancestry) have taken this step. I would like to throw open to discussion or comment, the subject of downloading or uploading our content to another site. Do you have pages where our content could be made available? I do have a reasonable amount of web space through my internet provider BUT I don't think I would be "tech savy" enough to do it and keep it as a password site because of some content and hacking. Please if you have any ideas to help out I would love to hear from you via my email address - [email protected] Thank you to everyone who has contributed to our site over the years, Jenny Myers

Billy, trying to see if this site up and running again after Rootsweb, Ancestry and My Family.com being hacked. Jenny --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

I have a copy of the following death Young - Widow- died 22 Dec 1858 Poorhouse - aged 80 -Old age and debility - Buried New Monklandf Churchyard - Willliam Wilson - Inmate of poorhouse informant - there is no first name on the certificate just a dash - William Peat 9 June 1885 - Cleland Shotts Parish - M - 8 days - illegitimate son - Ellen Grier, farm servant - premature Birth Agnes Irvin Steel- 14 March 1896 - 7 Couper Place Glasgow - F - James Baird Steel , Plumber Journeyman and Agnes Steel - maiden name Irvin - married 3 June 1892 Marian

Thanks Margaret, Judith, Anne, George, and anyone else I’ve missed. I appreciate your mails. I just now looked up Park Circus and see that it is included in the Mitchell Library. Think I have to relax a little and not feel I have to fit everything in. I would love to see the places where my family lived, but there are so many places. When I’ve looked on Google maps I’ve not found any old buildings. I’ve got quite a bit of paper trail with Census records and vital records. Anne, your detailed mail is wonderful, thanks so very much. I’ve printed it off and also saved on my iPad, I’ll be reading it over and over. So much great info! I’m staying at the Hilton Hotel right near where Who do you think you are is going to be held. I’d love to meet you, but I’ve not yet figured out how I’m going to use my cell phone and texting without it costing a fortune. George, I’ll be in touch. My budget is pretty well spent but would love to see what we might be able to work out. Just in case any of these names sound familiar to any of you …… I’ll only put a bit, I don’t want to be too much of a bore! (sorry, I went way over a bit!) my Grandparents James Gibson b. 1874 Daiziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland, lived at 24 Caledonian Street in Motherwell at time of marriage. He worked at the Caledonian Railway Company from 1888 - 1893 at Saint Rollox, Glasgow He then worked at Marshall, Fleming, & Jack Dellburn Works from 1893 - 1894 He married Jeanie (Jane?) Cunningham she lived at 31 Watson Street in Motherwell at time of their marriage. The only info I have about their marriage is m. 17 June 1898 Parish of Dalziel in the county of Lanark Conservation Hall, Calder Street, Motherwell They had a child who must have died very young because I never heard anything about him. I’m not sure if my mother knew or not. 1901 Scotland Census about James Gibson Name: James Gibson Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Spouse's name : Jeanie Gibson Where born: Lanark, Motherwell Registration Number: 639 Registration district: Dalziel Civil parish: Dalziel Town: Motherwell County: Lanarkshire Address: 30 Thorn St Occupation: Engine Fitter ED: 7 Household schedule number: 230 Line: 20 Roll: CSSCT1901_259 James Gibson 26 Jeanie Gibson 25 John Gibson 2 Find info about this child My G grandparents John Gibson b. 9 Aug 1845 Lasswade, Midlothian, Scotland (BIRTH REGISTRATION: 691/6 Lasswade) d. unk at time of marriage: Spillbank Cottage, Hamilton Margaret (Maggie) Higgie b. 1851 Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland 1891 Census Details: Age 39 (see notes under husband John) BIRTH REGISTRATION: Date 1851 Place: Aberdeen d. 18 July 1927 Motherwell, Scotland DEATH REGISTRATION: 625/2 100 Date: 18/7/1927 Age: 75 Address: "Fasgath", Jerviston Rd, Motherwell Father's Name: Samuel Higgie Cork Manufacturer Mother: Elizabeth Fiddes Cause of Death: Senile decay Whitness: Alex Gibson - son MARRIAGE REGISTRATION: Hamilton 647/153 Date 13/12/1872 Place: Spillbank Cottage, Hamilton Address: Spillbank Cottage, Hamilton Age/Marital Status: 27/Batchelor Occupation: Locomotive engine driver Spouse: Maggie Heggie/Higgie Spouse Address: Loancroft House, Bothwell Spouses Age/Martial Status: 21/Spinster Spouses Occupation: Domestic Servant Parents: James Gibson, Straw? Miller Margaret Nelson Samuel Higgie, Commercial Traveller Eliza Fiddes (deceased) Witnesses: George Gibson, Meliza (?) Higgie Great Great Grandparents James Gibson b. 16 Nov 1817 Carnwath, Lanark, Scotland d. abt 1888 Margaret Neilson b. 26 Dec 1819 Inveresk, Eninburgh, Scotland d. 18 Apr 1888 Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland DEATH REGISTRATION: Duddingston Loch Date 18/4/1888 Marital Status: Married to James Gibson (Brunstane Mills) Age: 70 Father's name and occupation: James Neilson - Farm Grieve Mother: Alice Notman Cause of Death: Cerebral Softenning Whitness: George Gibson (son) m. 13 July 1844 Lasswade, Midlothian, Scotland MARRIAGE REGISTRATION: Lasswade 691/7/19 Date: 13/7/1844 Spouse: James Gibson Occupation of Spouse: Miller, Middlemills Address: Parish of Humbie Samuel Higgie b. 1825 Abbotshall, Fife, Scotland d. 25 May 1883 Elizabeth Fiddes b. Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland Elizabeth Fiddes Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 residence: Aber, Scotland parents: Andrew Fiddes, Margaret Irvine record title: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 name: Elizabeth Fiddes gender: Female baptism/christening date: 31 Jul 1825 baptism/christening place: SAINT NICHOLAS,ABERDEEN,ABERDEEN,SCOTLAND father's name: Andrew Fiddes mother's name: Margaret Irvine indexing project (batch) number: C11168-8 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 991199 BIRTH REGISTRATION: Aberdeen 168/A/21 Date: 31/7/1825 Father: Andrew Fiddes Mother: Margaret Irving d. 16 Oct 1859 Glasgow, Scotland DEATH REGISTRATION: Hutchesontown, Glasgow 644/10 868 for Elizabeth Fiddes Higgie Date: 16/10/1859 Age: 34 Spouse's Name: Samuel Higgie Address: 109 Wellington St., Glasgow Father's Name/Occupation: Andrew Fiddes/ Master Shoemaker Mother: Margaret Irving (deceased) Cause of Death: Billious fever - several days - not certified Witness: Samuel Higgie (widower) Buried Southern Necropolis Glasgow The Southern Necropolis is situated on Caledonia Road in the Gorbals area of Glasgow. Some other names and places are Stewart, Aitken, Hamilton, Fiddes, Neilson, Irvine, Fiddes, Peggie, Mitchell and places Duddingston, Lasswade, Humbie, Abbotshall, Aberdeen, New Monkland, Old Monkland, Cadder, Paisley, Biggar, Berwickshire, Humbie, Oh, the list goes on and on! If you’ve glanced this far, thanks, if not, I certainly understand. I got a little carried away. nancy :-) On Jun 13, 2014, at 3:38 PM, Margaret McNab <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Nancy and George, I was wrong thinking it was Scotlandspeople in Edinburgh.I have visited Mitchell Library and Park Circus but it was many years ago and I am sure a lot has changed since them. I found Edinburgh was very easy to use and the staff were very helpful. However I think you will be in very good hands Nancy with George to guide you through it all and you will discover more than you ever thought possible. I was born in Scotland and grew up in Uddingston Lanarkshire (10 miles outside Glasgow). We came to Canada in 1969 with our two son. Now they are grown I am able to spend more time researching. I usually manage to get back at least twice a year and as I still have family there I always have a place to stay. I was there in February and I am headed back again in September and I can hardly wait. Good Luck with your search and if there is anything I can do to help please let me know. Take Care Margaret

Hi Nancy and George,  I  was wrong thinking it was Scotlandspeople in Edinburgh.I have visited Mitchell Library and Park Circus but it was many years ago and I am sure a lot has changed since them.  I found Edinburgh was very easy to use and the staff were very helpful. However I think you will be in very good hands Nancy with George to guide you through it all and you will discover more than you ever thought possible. I was born in Scotland and grew up in Uddingston Lanarkshire (10 miles outside Glasgow). We came to Canada  in 1969 with our two son. Now they are grown I am able to spend more time researching. I usually manage to get back at least twice a year and as I still have family there I always have a place to stay. I was there in February and I am headed back again in September and I can hardly wait.  Good Luck with your search and if there is anything I can do to help please let me know. Take Care   Margaret ________________________________

Hi Margaret, I visited the new FH section on the 5th floor at the Mitchell, it is now divided into 3 sections - 1. Special Collections 2. General FH Research 3. The General Registrars Sect. eg. as per ScotlandsPeople or New Register House, Edinburgh - this section is where you are charged to use the computers to search. Having searched at NRH (Edinburgh) 10 yrs ago when Marion Fyfe and I had a day there we had no problems. I haven’t been to Park Circus in Glasgow to know their policies or layout. The printers at the Mitchell SP section were not amongst the research computer set-up and definitely 3pm cut off so there was a gap from 3pm to closing where you could search but not have any copy of a record other than transcribing onto a piece of your own paper. If I hadn’t used these facilities previously I would not have had any reason to compare. On the plus side, the ground floor is now a lovely coffee shop with a good variety of lunch and snack food. Nancy I will reply privately to your post.....train travel around the Paisley, Glasgow, Motherwell area would be the way to go, found the Scottish Rail System to be on time every time we caught a train. As for driving and parking, unless you know exactly where you are going or have a good navigator when you are in unfamiliar territory I wouldn’t think about doing it. Regards Jenny From: Margaret McNab Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:29 AM Hi Jenny, I am so sorry to hear of your very negative experience. I visit Scotlandpeople at least twice a year and I have always found the staff very helpful. There is usually an announcement and a bell rung to say the center is closing in 15 mins at 4:30pm. I have often printed off certificates after that with no problem. Margaret Canada --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hello Nancy I've read many posts from people like yourself who want to walk in their ancestors' footsteps by visiting Scotland. So I now offer to help, which may just be planning the trip to get the greatest benefit up to accompanying the person in visiting the places where their ancestors lived. For example, in a few weeks time, someone is coming from Perth, Australia to Scotland for the first time. She'd done a lot of research on her family in Ayrshire before they left in 1857. I've found out where they lived, including 4 houses that are still there, made contact with the current owners and will drive her round these locations. She's staying with us for a couple of days which will save on hotel costs. She's visiting Edinburgh but hadn't noticed that another ancestor came from there. I've found out where the family lived and more about them, so she can include that on her trip. If you'd like to discuss this further, please e-mail me at [email protected] Kind regards George P.S. the best ScotlandsPeople Centre is in Edinburgh - see http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:54:14 -0400 From: nancy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Lanark] LANARK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 78 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello group, I'm new and planning my first and probably last ever trip to Scotland. I'm very excited and hope to find some interesting bits of information about my maternal family. I've got quite a lot of work done but want to find documentation to support it. Also, I just want to feel and be in the areas my ancestors lived and worked. I'm flying into Aberdeen and staying a few days then going to Kirkcaldy for a few more. I plan on going to Edinburgh from my base in Kirkcaldy. Then I'm going to 'Who Do You Think You Are' for the three days. From there I'll go to Paisley as a base to research in Glasgow, Motherwell and some other smaller towns in that area. I've done this planning only by looking at a map, hoping for transportation to take me where I want to go as I don't think I'll rent a car. I'm not an experienced traveler and I've used public transportation very little in my lifetime. I've just joined the Aberdeen Family History Society because I read it was for members only. I'd planned on using my camera to take pictures of documents to save some money and cut down on paperwork. I do hope that isn't going to be a problem. I'm looking forward to having some porridge like my grandfather had every morning. I have it too but I wonder how close it is to being the 'real' thing. :-) I have the Mitchell library on my list but I don't know about the new Scottish GRO. I'll have to look that one up. Any suggestions will be soooooo welcome. I was hoping to find a genealogy meeting to attend in my travels but so far searching the web hasn't turned up any yet. I also have been hoping to find living relatives before I go but no luck there either. I'm very into DNA and will be bring along a couple of kits just in case I might find someone who might be family and also might be interested in testing. I look forward to stepping on Scottish soil, my grandfather used to say the coast of Maine (where I've always lived) reminded him a lot of his coast in Scotland. Nancy

Margaret, I think you might be confusing the existing SP Centre in Edinburgh with the new facility in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow, which is where Jenny had the negative experience. Anne ________________________________ From: Margaret McNab <[email protected]> To: Newsgroup Lanarkshire <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 13 June 2014, 0:29 Subject: Re: [Lanark] LANARK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 78  Hi Jenny,  I am so sorry to hear of your very negative experience. I visit Scotlandpeople at least twice a year and I have always found the staff very helpful. There is usually an announcement and a bell rung to say the center is closing in 15 mins at 4:30pm.  I have often printed off certificates after that with no problem.  There is one printer to I think every 6 or so computers and they are with in easy reach of the 6 computers in the group.  There has been times when I could reach the printer without getting up from the desk where I was sitting. Not sure why the staff would be bringing it to you. I know you can  use a USB ( I am not savvy enough to try it) I see people doing it. I can't say about a camera. I have never seen anyone use one. I have seen 2 people sit at one computer and I know they only paid for one. It never seems to cause a problem. I can't help wondering if you were in the same place as I visit. Where I do my research it is on the main floor. You mentioned fifth floor?  Hopefully George you will solve this mystery Take Care Margaret Canada ________________________________ From: George English <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:14:01 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] LANARK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 78 Hello Jenny I hope you were just the victim of misunderstanding. If not, it's something we in Scotland should take up because it's totally contrary to the spirit of providing public access to public records. If you like to post (or e-mail me at [email protected]) details of your visit, I would be prepared to see what I can do for you. Whereabouts in Oz are you? Kind regards George English Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:50:59 +1000 > From: "Jennifer Myers" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Lanark] The New Family History Centre at the Mitchell > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="UTF-8" > > Hello to All, > > On the Downside ? The new 5th floor Family History and Special Collections > together with the new Scottish GRO as in ScotlandsPeople/NRH/Park Circus > set up. > > DO NOT go in there with a friend if only one of you is going to do the > computer searching...£30 to use one only computer, that is only one person > researching, no offer of two computers....NO we were made pay for 2 people > at one computer, this payment equated to almost AU$60 which would have been > far better spent buying multiple SP Credits at home. Any record you wanted > had to be printed by their own printer and nothing after 3pm, no use of a > camera or downloading an image to a portable drive was allowed. Not > realising I had hit print on a record after 3 it was brought to me and was > told, no more! > > Regards > Jenny   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jenny I hope you were just the victim of misunderstanding. If not, it's something we in Scotland should take up because it's totally contrary to the spirit of providing public access to public records. If you like to post (or e-mail me at [email protected]) details of your visit, I would be prepared to see what I can do for you. Whereabouts in Oz are you? Kind regards George English Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:50:59 +1000 > From: "Jennifer Myers" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Lanark] The New Family History Centre at the Mitchell > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello to All, > > On the Downside ? The new 5th floor Family History and Special Collections > together with the new Scottish GRO as in ScotlandsPeople/NRH/Park Circus > set up. > > DO NOT go in there with a friend if only one of you is going to do the > computer searching...£30 to use one only computer, that is only one person > researching, no offer of two computers....NO we were made pay for 2 people > at one computer, this payment equated to almost AU$60 which would have been > far better spent buying multiple SP Credits at home. Any record you wanted > had to be printed by their own printer and nothing after 3pm, no use of a > camera or downloading an image to a portable drive was allowed. Not > realising I had hit print on a record after 3 it was brought to me and was > told, no more! > > Regards > Jenny

I enjoyed reading your mail Margaret. Where is Scotlandpeople? Nancy :-) > On Jun 12, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Margaret McNab <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Jenny, > I am so sorry to hear of your very negative experience. > I visit Scotlandpeople at least twice a year and I have always found the staff very helpful. > > There is usually an announcement and a bell rung to say the center is closing in 15 mins at 4:30pm. I have often printed off certificates after that with no problem. > There is one printer to I think every 6 or so computers and they are with in easy reach of the 6 computers in the group. There has been times when I could reach the printer without getting up from the desk where I was sitting. Not sure why the staff would be bringing it to you. > > I know you can use a USB ( I am not savvy enough to try it) I see people doing it. I can't say about a camera. I have never seen anyone use one. > > I have seen 2 people sit at one computer and I know they only paid for one. It never seems to cause a problem. > > I can't help wondering if you were in the same place as I visit. Where I do my research it is on the main floor. You mentioned fifth floor? > > Hopefully George you will solve this mystery > Take Care > > Margaret Canada > > > ________________________________ > From: George English <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:14:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Lanark] LANARK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 78 > > > Hello Jenny > > > Hi Jenny, > I am so sorry to hear of your very negative experience. > I visit Scotlandpeople at least twice a year and I have always found the staff very helpful. > > There is usually an announcement and a bell rung to say the center is closing in 15 mins at 4:30pm. I have often printed off certificates after that with no problem. > There is one printer to I think every 6 or so computers and they are with in easy reach of the 6 computers in the group. There has been times when I could reach the printer without getting up from the desk where I was sitting. Not sure why the staff would be bringing it to you. > > I know you can use a USB ( I am not savvy enough to try it) I see people doing it. I can't say about a camera. I have never seen anyone use one. > > I have seen 2 people sit at one computer and I know they only paid for one. It never seems to cause a problem. > > I can't help wondering if you were in the same place as I visit. Where I do my research it is on the main floor. You mentioned fifth floor? > > Hopefully George you will solve this mystery > Take Care > > Margaret Canada > > > ________________________________ > From: George English <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:14:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Lanark] LANARK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 78 > > > Hello Jenny > > I hope you were just the victim of misunderstanding. If not, it's something > we in Scotland should take up because it's totally contrary to the spirit > of providing public access to public records. If you like to post (or > e-mail me at [email protected]) details of your visit, I > would be prepared to see what I can do for you. > > Whereabouts in Oz are you? > > Kind regards > George English > > Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:50:59 +1000 >> From: "Jennifer Myers" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Lanark] The New Family History Centre at the Mitchell >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hello to All, >> >> On the Downside ? The new 5th floor Family History and Special Collections >> together with the new Scottish GRO as in ScotlandsPeople/NRH/Park Circus >> set up. >> >> DO NOT go in there with a friend if only one of you is going to do the >> computer searching...£30 to use one only computer, that is only one person >> researching, no offer of two computers....NO we were made pay for 2 people >> at one computer, this payment equated to almost AU$60 which would have been >> far better spent buying multiple SP Credits at home. Any record you wanted >> had to be printed by their own printer and nothing after 3pm, no use of a >> camera or downloading an image to a portable drive was allowed. Not >> realising I had hit print on a record after 3 it was brought to me and was >> told, no more! >> >> Regards >> Jenny > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. 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Hello group, I'm new and planning my first and probably last ever trip to Scotland. I'm very excited and hope to find some interesting bits of information about my maternal family. I've got quite a lot of work done but want to find documentation to support it. Also, I just want to feel and be in the areas my ancestors lived and worked. I'm flying into Aberdeen and staying a few days then going to Kirkcaldy for a few more. I plan on going to Edinburgh from my base in Kirkcaldy. Then I'm going to 'Who Do You Think You Are' for the three days. From there I'll go to Paisley as a base to research in Glasgow, Motherwell and some other smaller towns in that area. I've done this planning only by looking at a map, hoping for transportation to take me where I want to go as I don't think I'll rent a car. I'm not an experienced traveler and I've used public transportation very little in my lifetime. I've just joined the Aberdeen Family History Society because I read it was for members only. I'd planned on using my camera to take pictures of documents to save some money and cut down on paperwork. I do hope that isn't going to be a problem. I'm looking forward to having some porridge like my grandfather had every morning. I have it too but I wonder how close it is to being the 'real' thing. :-) I have the Mitchell library on my list but I don't know about the new Scottish GRO. I'll have to look that one up. Any suggestions will be soooooo welcome. I was hoping to find a genealogy meeting to attend in my travels but so far searching the web hasn't turned up any yet. I also have been hoping to find living relatives before I go but no luck there either. I'm very into DNA and will be bring along a couple of kits just in case I might find someone who might be family and also might be interested in testing. I look forward to stepping on Scottish soil, my grandfather used to say the coast of Maine (where I've always lived) reminded him a lot of his coast in Scotland. Nancy :-) > On Jun 12, 2014, at 5:14 PM, George English <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Jenny > > I hope you were just the victim of misunderstanding. If not, it's something > we in Scotland should take up because it's totally contrary to the spirit > of providing public access to public records. If you like to post (or > e-mail me at [email protected]) details of your visit, I > would be prepared to see what I can do for you. > > Whereabouts in Oz are you? > > Kind regards > George English > > Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:50:59 +1000 >> From: "Jennifer Myers" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Lanark] The New Family History Centre at the Mitchell >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hello to All, >> >> On the Downside ? The new 5th floor Family History and Special Collections >> together with the new Scottish GRO as in ScotlandsPeople/NRH/Park Circus >> set up. >> >> DO NOT go in there with a friend if only one of you is going to do the >> computer searching...£30 to use one only computer, that is only one person >> researching, no offer of two computers....NO we were made pay for 2 people >> at one computer, this payment equated to almost AU$60 which would have been >> far better spent buying multiple SP Credits at home. Any record you wanted >> had to be printed by their own printer and nothing after 3pm, no use of a >> camera or downloading an image to a portable drive was allowed. Not >> realising I had hit print on a record after 3 it was brought to me and was >> told, no more! >> >> Regards >> Jenny > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

 Hi Jenny,  I am so sorry to hear of your very negative experience. I visit Scotlandpeople at least twice a year and I have always found the staff very helpful. There is usually an announcement and a bell rung to say the center is closing in 15 mins at 4:30pm.  I have often printed off certificates after that with no problem.  There is one printer to I think every 6 or so computers and they are with in easy reach of the 6 computers in the group.  There has been times when I could reach the printer without getting up from the desk where I was sitting. Not sure why the staff would be bringing it to you. I know you can  use a USB ( I am not savvy enough to try it) I see people doing it. I can't say about a camera. I have never seen anyone use one. I have seen 2 people sit at one computer and I know they only paid for one. It never seems to cause a problem. I can't help wondering if you were in the same place as I visit. Where I do my research it is on the main floor. You mentioned fifth floor?  Hopefully George you will solve this mystery Take Care Margaret Canada ________________________________ From: George English <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:14:01 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] LANARK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 78 Hello Jenny I hope you were just the victim of misunderstanding. If not, it's something we in Scotland should take up because it's totally contrary to the spirit of providing public access to public records. If you like to post (or e-mail me at [email protected]) details of your visit, I would be prepared to see what I can do for you. Whereabouts in Oz are you? Kind regards George English Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:50:59 +1000 > From: "Jennifer Myers" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Lanark] The New Family History Centre at the Mitchell > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="UTF-8" > > Hello to All, > > On the Downside ? The new 5th floor Family History and Special Collections > together with the new Scottish GRO as in ScotlandsPeople/NRH/Park Circus > set up. > > DO NOT go in there with a friend if only one of you is going to do the > computer searching...£30 to use one only computer, that is only one person > researching, no offer of two computers....NO we were made pay for 2 people > at one computer, this payment equated to almost AU$60 which would have been > far better spent buying multiple SP Credits at home. Any record you wanted > had to be printed by their own printer and nothing after 3pm, no use of a > camera or downloading an image to a portable drive was allowed. Not > realising I had hit print on a record after 3 it was brought to me and was > told, no more! > > Regards > Jenny   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As you say Jo-Ann a researcher for Non-conformist and Episcopalian records is probably less expensive. Having been to both NRH and the Mitchell previously prompted me to compare and advise of the double charge. If you have the chance to make it to IRE do so, it was great! (Except for the distance from Aus, I must be aging :-) Jenny ================= From: Jo Ann Croft Subject: Re: [Lanark] The New Family History Centre at the Mitchell I'm happy and sad for you. Very happy at your success in Ireland, I wish I could get there as my husband's great grandparents are a big brick wall. Sad for your experience at the Mitchell. It seems that hiring a researcher is still the least expensive method of finding anything not on scotlandspeople. Jo-Ann --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hello to All, I have just returned home from a 6 week journey around IRE, Nthn IRE and UK...some wonderful highlights and a couple on the down side! Highlight - The staff at the Irish Archives couldn’t have been more helpful with my friend’s research as were the staff at the Ireland (Dublin) GRO in supplying an 1899 non-certified marriage registration within a minute of paying over the Euros. Costs for articles purchased – A 1936 Will and Testament @ E15 posted to your o’seas address – Non-Cert. Marriage @ E4 handed to you over the counter. Another highlight was the help at the deconsecrated Church of Ireland in Bandon Parish Co. Cork. This Church is now a Museum of the local area. The gr grandfather of my friend’s partner was the Rector and then Canon of this Church for 38yrs, between 1898-1936. The historian had us follow him to another Church and Burial Ground containing the grave of he and his wife and possibly one of their children about 6-7 miles out of town, so helpful. From here we managed to find the old Rectory which is now in private hands. This Church Museum holds a card index as well as transcribed registers for what seemed to be all the former Ch. of Ire. Churches within the Parish of Bandon going well back in time. Never give up on finding Irish records,,, On the Downside – The new 5th floor Family History and Special Collections together with the new Scottish GRO as in ScotlandsPeople/NRH/Park Circus set up. The Mitchell general research centre staff were helpful to a point as were the special collections – when one is not a regular researcher at the Mitchell and not sure of the records available in each section a little extra help would have been appreciated even after going through what was showing on the computer catalogue. Comparing this visit to 10 yrs ago, there was no comparison, the staff 10 yrs ago seemed to be more knowledgeable, looked at what you already had then guided and advised you as to which records would possibly be most beneficial. The use of the General Reg, Section – you are better off doing your research from the luxury of your own home, I was so disappointed. As to the two NOT so happy staff, I think they require training in Public Relations! DO NOT go in there with a friend if only one of you is going to do the computer searching...£30 to use one only computer, that is only one person researching, no offer of two computers....NO we were made pay for 2 people at one computer, this payment equated to almost AU$60 which would have been far better spent buying multiple SP Credits at home. Any record you wanted had to be printed by their own printer and nothing after 3pm, no use of a camera or downloading an image to a portable drive was allowed. Not realising I had hit print on a record after 3 it was brought to me and was told, no more! Needless to say I was not impressed with the situation. I hope this makes others aware of the time factor and cost to use the new facility in relation to researching from home wherever you might live. Paying the normal fee of £15 whether at this facility or at NRH I would have happily paid but not double. ( I think that is the Scottish blood showing through! ) Our other disappointment was not having an extra day to go to NAS in Edinburgh...If only Episcopalian Records were added to the SP database! Bank Holiday closures caught up with us no matter where we were. Regards Jenny --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com