California calling to thank those who enquired whether we felt the 6.0 earthquake in Napa 250 miles north of here. Not this time, though it depends on the epicentre of the quake. Paso Robles had a 6.3 earthquake in 2003 which caused two deaths. All the old buildings were given five years to be made earthquake proof. I still check the newspaper for any earthquake activity in this area...they give me the willies. My grandson and his family live near Napa and they FELT IT! Napa, Sonoma and Mendocino are famous for their wines, whilst Paso Robles is working hard to give them competition. The Paso Robles area in the Central Coast area of California (actually 25 miles inland!) was settled by mainly German, Swedish, Swiss, Italian and Spanish immigrants. I have not attended any county genealogy meetings as it’s likely that anyone of Scottish heritage in the 1800s would have been a non-starter. There was a pioneering family by the name of Oilar, however, whose grandmother, Miss Montgomery from Scotland, lived until she was 115 years, seven months and fifteen days. She was a sister of Abraham Lincoln’s grandmother. Does this require finding Abraham Lincoln’s ‘tree?’ Those from Scotland who settled in the area were no more than a dozen or so and none of their names seems to be among the wll-known family names that pop up every year during Pioneer Day festivities in October. Maisie

Cliff I don't know anything about the genes but my daughter and her late husband both had brown eyes - their children: 3 girls blue eyed and 2 boys brown eyed! Lorraine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston via" <[email protected]> To: "Maisie Egger" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Blue eyes in Scotland > Maisie, > > It takes 2 blue-eyed parents to produce a blue-eyed child as the gene for > blue eyes is "recessive", i.e.: it is overridden by a brown gene if so > combined. So, you need to look at the eye color of the parents, not the > grandparents. > > Cliff. > > > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 AM, Maisie Egger via > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >

Barga still has close ties with Scotland. When we were there a few years ago we were bemused to see Saltires hanging everywhere and a John Bellany exhibition in a local gallery (Bellany lived there for many years). On 23/08/2014 22:12, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > Hi all > > Anyone catch the latest episode of WDYTYA on Tamzin OUTHWAITE > > It was based on her Italian great grandfather, starting in Fishburn Co > Durham, then to the Isle of Man where two were interned during the war, > then to Barga in Tuscany, then Glasgow and back to Fishburn > > Mostly about her Italian side who came from Barga to Glasgow about a > century ago, they were ice cream makers and sellers > > It was mentioned that many Italians came over to Scotland on a > seasonal basis and had done so for very many years, they also said 2% of > Scots had an Italian connection > > It was an interesting story > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

This week my mother and I did a little research at the Dumfries-Galloway FHS, at the library in Stranraer, and we spoke to many people at the Family History Show in Motherwell on Saturday. Although we did not find much to add to our research, we have a few leads for where to look next. Because everyone on this list has been so welcoming, I didn’t think anyone would mind if I shared this happy little anecdote. . . At the show on Sat., we were looking for somewhere to eat lunch and there was only one table left in the lunchroom. Although there was a young girl seated there, she didn’t mind if we joined her. She overheard us discussing our research and we soon discovered a connection to each other. Her g-g-grandfather, David SMITH, was the brother of my husband’s g-grandmother, Isabella SMITH. Her g-g-grandfather had not emigrated to the States, whereas my husband’s g-grandmother had. (These Smiths had lived in Coatbridge at the same time as my mother’s family of Smiths and Gibsons.) We greatly enjoyed the coincidence of happening upon each other at the conference. And of course, we are enjoying this beautiful country and the welcoming Scottish people. Joyce Pavelko Arlington Heights, IL

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Hi all Anyone catch the latest episode of WDYTYA on Tamzin OUTHWAITE It was based on her Italian great grandfather, starting in Fishburn Co Durham, then to the Isle of Man where two were interned during the war, then to Barga in Tuscany, then Glasgow and back to Fishburn Mostly about her Italian side who came from Barga to Glasgow about a century ago, they were ice cream makers and sellers It was mentioned that many Italians came over to Scotland on a seasonal basis and had done so for very many years, they also said 2% of Scots had an Italian connection It was an interesting story -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

http://blogs.ancestry.com/cm/2014/07/01/there-are-7-types-of-english-surnames-which-one-is-yours/?o_xid=61737&o_lid=61737&o_sch=Content+Marketing This link focuses mainly on English surnames, which should have a disclaimer that the names are predominantly English as many in Scotland bear the same names from forebears’ professions. Common names in Scotland would also be such as Fletcher, occupational name meaning arrow maker; Lyon, lion or place name for Lyons, France; Young, usually in a family distinguishing one brother from the other; Westwater is of mediaeval Scottish meaning referring to water, of course, and then my own surname Clint, meaning a hard rocky surface, with the limestone Clints in Wigtownshire used to train mountain climbers. Wilson (lots by this names in Scotland and Northern Ireland) is the seventh most common name in the U.K., whereas it was sometimes Wulson in Scotland, with German roots for Wil. The ten most common names in the U.K: Smith, Brown (I’m one of them guys, too!), Johnson, Jones, Williams, Davis, Miller, Wilson, Taylor and Clark. The ten least common on this long list are Sparks, Bacon, Gould, Sawyer, Neil, Kelley, Reid, Cooke, Osborne and Hancock., The list can go on and on. Maisie

A brown-eyed person can carry a recessive gene for blue eyes. So if two people with brown eyes both carry a hidden blue-eye gene, on average one in four of their children will inherit the recessive blue-eye gene from both parents and will have blue eyes. One will receive brown-eye genes from both parents, and will have brown eyes and brown-eyed children. The other two will inherit a dominant brown-eye gene from one parent and a recessive blue-eye gene from the other so they will have brown eyes but their children could have blue eyes. Two blue-eyed parents can only pass on blue-eye genes so they cannot have a brown-eyed child.  This is of course an over-simplification, because you do get a range of eye colours. In your case your brown-eyed mother must have had a recessive blue-eye gene, which she passed on to you, Your father also had a recessive blue-eye gene which he passed on to you, so you have blue eyes. Your brother got a brown-eye gene from one of them, so whatever he got from the other is dominated by that brown-eye gene, so he has brown eyes. Anne ________________________________ From: Tom McMillan via <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2014, 17:01 Subject: Re: [Lanark] Blue eyes in Scotland Sorry, I don't buy that. My Mother had brown eyes and Dad had hazel eyes, and I had blue eyes, and my brother had brown eyes. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/061023193617.htm                Blue Eyes -- A Clue To Paternity Before you request a paternity test, spend a few minutes looking at your child's eye color. According to studies, published this week in Behavioral Ecology... View on www.sciencedaily.com Preview by Yahoo     Tom McMillan On Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Cliff. Johnston via <[email protected]> wrote: Maisie, It takes 2 blue-eyed parents to produce a blue-eyed child as the gene for blue eyes is "recessive", i.e.: it is overridden by a brown gene if so combined.  So, you need to look at the eye color of the parents, not the grandparents. Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 AM, Maisie Egger via <[email protected]> wrote:   I saw the following in today’s online Herald.  I can’t forward the whole article as it does not print.  In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my grandmother.  As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings inherited the same eye colour.  My husband has green eyes, so that two of our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, with one having decided blue eyes. Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring..   Growing up among mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and dramatic (all in my head, of course).       Maisie “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, the Lothians and Borders. Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of Ireland.”   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How many are there. Can I get info from the Registry Office in Airdrie Elizabeth in Ont Canada

Maisie, We have probably passed around the info below at some point in time. Bob CDN ------------------ CLINT, William Thomson Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 13 Feb 1834 Christening Date: 22 Feb 1834 Recorded in: New Abbey, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Father: John CLINT Mother: Mary PORTEOUS Source: FHL Film 1068034 Dates: 1820 - 1854 CLINT, William Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 16 Jul 1825 Birthplace: , Rerrick, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Recorded in: Rerrick, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Father: William CLINT Mother: Sarah HYSLOP Source: FHL Film 1068034 Dates: 1736 - 1854 CLINT, William Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 15 Jul 1849 Birthplace: , Rerrick, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Recorded in: Rerrick, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Father: James CLINT Mother: Elizabeth FISHER Source: FHL Film 1068034 Dates: 1736 - 1854 ============== On 8/23/2014 12:53 PM, Maisie Egger via wrote: > I’m still stuck trying to confirm who the parents were of my great-grandfather William Clint, 1796, Carlingwark, and who died 1888, Auchencairn, Kirkcudbrightshire. >

Here is a link to a site with a calculator and the scientific explanation of how it all works. On the first page below the picture is another link "How to better use this calculator <http://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask306>" which goes into the explanation on the different types of Brown. http://genetics.thetech.org/online-exhibits/what-color-eyes-will-your-children-have On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Maisie Egger via <[email protected]> wrote: > I saw the following in today’s online Herald. I can’t forward the whole > article as it does not print. > > In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, > but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my > grandmother. As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings > inherited the same eye colour. My husband has green eyes, so that two of > our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, > with one having decided blue eyes. > > Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this > hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring.. Growing up among > mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and > dramatic (all in my head, of course). Maisie > > “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest > level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, the > Lothians and Borders. > > Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, > compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a > figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of > Ireland.” > > -

Forgot to add this also applies to blood types... Sent from my iPad > On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, "Cliff. Johnston via" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh, I forgot to add that blue-eyed parents have been shown/proven to have/be able to have a brown-eyed child. So, all of our previous beliefs are to be discarded. I wonder how many "innocent" mothers in days gone by were emotionally/physically punished when 2 blue-eyed parents had a brown-eyed child or 2 brown-eyed parents had a blue-eyed child? > > Cliff. > > > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:06 AM, Cliff. Johnston via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I should add that the old genetic model for explaining brown vs. blue eyes does not hold up anymore. It has been discovered that there is not just one gene responsible for each eye color but several. This means that brown-eyed parents have been shown to have blue-eyed children. So my initial "old fashioned" statement still holds up for most of the time, but not all ;-) How's that for a definite maybe? > > > On , Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > My deceased Uncle Walter had: > > "Heterochromia (also known as a heterochromia iridis or heterochromia iridum) is an ocular condition in which one iris is a different color from the other iris (complete heterochromia), or where a part of one iris is a different color from the remainder (partial heterochromia or sectoral heterochromia)." > > The top half of both of his eyes were blue while the bottom halves were brown. > > Cliff. > > > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:46 AM, Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Maisie, > > It takes 2 blue-eyed parents to produce a blue-eyed child as the gene for blue eyes is "recessive", i.e.: it is overridden by a brown gene if so combined. So, you need to look at the eye color of the parents, not the grandparents. > > Cliff. > > > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 AM, Maisie Egger via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I saw the following in today’s online Herald. I can’t forward the whole article as it does not print. > > In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my grandmother. As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings inherited the same eye colour. My husband has green eyes, so that two of our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, with one having decided blue eyes. > > Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring.. Growing up among mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and dramatic (all in my head, of course). Maisie > > > > “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, > the Lothians and Borders. > > Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, > compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of Ireland.” > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The recessive gene does show up when looking at genetics. My husband has brown eyes and I have blue. We have two daughters, one blue-eyed and one brown. One with blond hair and one with chestnut. Depends on the entire genetic pool. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, "Cliff. Johnston via" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh, I forgot to add that blue-eyed parents have been shown/proven to have/be able to have a brown-eyed child. So, all of our previous beliefs are to be discarded. I wonder how many "innocent" mothers in days gone by were emotionally/physically punished when 2 blue-eyed parents had a brown-eyed child or 2 brown-eyed parents had a blue-eyed child? > > Cliff. > > > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:06 AM, Cliff. Johnston via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I should add that the old genetic model for explaining brown vs. blue eyes does not hold up anymore. It has been discovered that there is not just one gene responsible for each eye color but several. This means that brown-eyed parents have been shown to have blue-eyed children. So my initial "old fashioned" statement still holds up for most of the time, but not all ;-) How's that for a definite maybe? > > > On , Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > My deceased Uncle Walter had: > > "Heterochromia (also known as a heterochromia iridis or heterochromia iridum) is an ocular condition in which one iris is a different color from the other iris (complete heterochromia), or where a part of one iris is a different color from the remainder (partial heterochromia or sectoral heterochromia)." > > The top half of both of his eyes were blue while the bottom halves were brown. > > Cliff. > > > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:46 AM, Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Maisie, > > It takes 2 blue-eyed parents to produce a blue-eyed child as the gene for blue eyes is "recessive", i.e.: it is overridden by a brown gene if so combined. So, you need to look at the eye color of the parents, not the grandparents. > > Cliff. > > > On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 AM, Maisie Egger via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I saw the following in today’s online Herald. I can’t forward the whole article as it does not print. > > In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my grandmother. As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings inherited the same eye colour. My husband has green eyes, so that two of our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, with one having decided blue eyes. > > Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring.. Growing up among mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and dramatic (all in my head, of course). Maisie > > > > “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, > the Lothians and Borders. > > Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, > compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of Ireland.” > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] > > You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I’m still stuck trying to confirm who the parents were of my great-grandfather William Clint, 1796, Carlingwark, and who died 1888, Auchencairn, Kirkcudbrightshire. There is a very slim possibility his father could have been John Clint who liked to go around propagating the whole world with his offspring without benefit of legalising his liaisons by marriage. I am sure at some point, after his hormones had settled down, this John Clint likely did marry, but to whom, we do not know (as yet). Rumour has it that he may have married Mary Porteous, but nothing has been confirmed on this either. John Clint and Mary Porteous were R.C. presumably as they were the sponsors at the baptism of the child of Margaret Clint Rigg, John’s sister. William Clint’s mother (whoever she is) most likely was not R.C. as he married to Sarah Hyslop in the Free Church of Scotland, Rerrick, Kirkcudbrightshire, and their subsequent offspring adhered to the Presbyterian religion, I believe Now John Clint’s brother Henry Clint is slightly noteworthy as the oldest child of Thomas Clint, vintner, innkeeper, originally from York. We do not know the details of why Henry Clint went bankrupt in 1796, but in 1795 he is shown as one of the original members of the Royal Dumfries Volunteers at the same time as Robert Burns, a year and a half before the death of the poet. Robert Burns must have had more of a nodding acquaintance with Henry Clint while innkeeper of the King’s Arms Hotel, to have entrusted him with the only copy he had of a book of his poems to be given to his friend, John McMurdo, whom we assume might have been staying at the hotel. We know little about the life of Henry Clint, except for his business failures, shall we say, and that he had two small daughters who died young, and then perhaps one other young daughter who attended the prestigious Bar Convent, York. The first link is a small book about Robert Burns which can be read online, which lists Henry Clint as among the first volunteers. There are three by the name of Hyslop, but I have not been able to match the years with mine by that name. Avoiding politics as much as possible, it is noted that Robert Burns did much to promote the Scottish language and culture of the land of his birth; however, at the beginning of this booklet he makes no bones in the opening poem about being proud to be British, whilst rallying everyone around to repress a possible invasion from Gaul. Even if no one on this list has a connection with Robert Burns, he is considered to be Scotland’s national poet and for nothing else he will go down in Scotland as having saved the language and the culture of the land when it was more fashionable (even in the 18th century) to be more Anglified in one’s speech and in the written language. https://archive.org/details/robertburnsasvol00willuoft http://scottishmilitary.blogspot.com/2009/07/robert-burns-and-royal-dumfries.html

Oh, I forgot to add that blue-eyed parents have been shown/proven to have/be able to have a brown-eyed child.  So, all of our previous beliefs are to be discarded.  I wonder how many "innocent" mothers in days gone by were emotionally/physically punished when 2 blue-eyed parents had a brown-eyed child or 2 brown-eyed parents had a blue-eyed child? Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:06 AM, Cliff. Johnston via <[email protected]> wrote: I should add that the old genetic model for explaining brown vs. blue eyes does not hold up anymore.  It has been discovered that there is not just one gene responsible for each eye color but several.  This means that brown-eyed parents have been shown to have blue-eyed children.  So my initial "old fashioned" statement still holds up for most of the time, but not all ;-)  How's that for a definite maybe?  On , Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote:   My deceased Uncle Walter had: "Heterochromia (also known as a heterochromia iridis or heterochromia iridum) is an ocular condition in which one iris is a different color from the other iris (complete heterochromia), or where a part of one iris is a different color from the remainder (partial heterochromia or sectoral heterochromia)." The top half of both of his eyes were blue while the bottom halves were brown. Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:46 AM, Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: Maisie, It takes 2 blue-eyed parents to produce a blue-eyed child as the gene for blue eyes is "recessive", i.e.: it is overridden by a brown gene if so combined.  So, you need to look at the eye color of the parents, not the grandparents. Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 AM, Maisie Egger via <[email protected]> wrote: I saw the following in today’s online Herald.  I can’t forward the whole article as it does not print.  In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my grandmother.  As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings inherited the same eye colour.  My husband has green eyes, so that two of our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, with one having decided blue eyes. Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring..   Growing up among mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and dramatic (all in my head, of course).       Maisie “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, the Lothians and Borders. Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of Ireland.”   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I should add that the old genetic model for explaining brown vs. blue eyes does not hold up anymore.  It has been discovered that there is not just one gene responsible for each eye color but several.  This means that brown-eyed parents have been shown to have blue-eyed children.  So my initial "old fashioned" statement still holds up for most of the time, but not all ;-)  How's that for a definite maybe? On , Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: My deceased Uncle Walter had: "Heterochromia (also known as a heterochromia iridis or heterochromia iridum) is an ocular condition in which one iris is a different color from the other iris (complete heterochromia), or where a part of one iris is a different color from the remainder (partial heterochromia or sectoral heterochromia)." The top half of both of his eyes were blue while the bottom halves were brown. Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:46 AM, Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: Maisie, It takes 2 blue-eyed parents to produce a blue-eyed child as the gene for blue eyes is "recessive", i.e.: it is overridden by a brown gene if so combined.  So, you need to look at the eye color of the parents, not the grandparents. Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 AM, Maisie Egger via <[email protected]> wrote: I saw the following in today’s online Herald.  I can’t forward the whole article as it does not print.  In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my grandmother.  As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings inherited the same eye colour.  My husband has green eyes, so that two of our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, with one having decided blue eyes. Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring..  Growing up among mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and dramatic (all in my head, of course).      Maisie “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, the Lothians and Borders. Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of Ireland.”   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My deceased Uncle Walter had: "Heterochromia (also known as a heterochromia iridis or heterochromia iridum) is an ocular condition in which one iris is a different color from the other iris (complete heterochromia), or where a part of one iris is a different color from the remainder (partial heterochromia or sectoral heterochromia)." The top half of both of his eyes were blue while the bottom halves were brown. Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:46 AM, Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: Maisie, It takes 2 blue-eyed parents to produce a blue-eyed child as the gene for blue eyes is "recessive", i.e.: it is overridden by a brown gene if so combined.  So, you need to look at the eye color of the parents, not the grandparents. Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 AM, Maisie Egger via <[email protected]> wrote: I saw the following in today’s online Herald.  I can’t forward the whole article as it does not print.  In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my grandmother.  As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings inherited the same eye colour.  My husband has green eyes, so that two of our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, with one having decided blue eyes. Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring..  Growing up among mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and dramatic (all in my head, of course).      Maisie “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, the Lothians and Borders. Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of Ireland.”   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I don't buy that. My Mother had brown eyes and Dad had hazel eyes, and I had blue eyes, and my brother had brown eyes. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/061023193617.htm               Blue Eyes -- A Clue To Paternity Before you request a paternity test, spend a few minutes looking at your child's eye color. According to studies, published this week in Behavioral Ecology... View on www.sciencedaily.com Preview by Yahoo     Tom McMillan On Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Cliff. Johnston via <[email protected]> wrote: Maisie, It takes 2 blue-eyed parents to produce a blue-eyed child as the gene for blue eyes is "recessive", i.e.: it is overridden by a brown gene if so combined.  So, you need to look at the eye color of the parents, not the grandparents. Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 AM, Maisie Egger via <[email protected]> wrote:   I saw the following in today’s online Herald.  I can’t forward the whole article as it does not print.  In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my grandmother.  As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings inherited the same eye colour.  My husband has green eyes, so that two of our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, with one having decided blue eyes. Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring..   Growing up among mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and dramatic (all in my head, of course).       Maisie “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, the Lothians and Borders. Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of Ireland.”   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maisie, It takes 2 blue-eyed parents to produce a blue-eyed child as the gene for blue eyes is "recessive", i.e.: it is overridden by a brown gene if so combined.  So, you need to look at the eye color of the parents, not the grandparents. Cliff. On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:34 AM, Maisie Egger via <[email protected]> wrote: I saw the following in today’s online Herald.  I can’t forward the whole article as it does not print.  In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my grandmother.  As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings inherited the same eye colour.  My husband has green eyes, so that two of our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, with one having decided blue eyes. Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring..  Growing up among mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and dramatic (all in my head, of course).      Maisie “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, the Lothians and Borders. Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of Ireland.”   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as [email protected] You may contact the List Admin at [email protected] or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I saw the following in today’s online Herald. I can’t forward the whole article as it does not print. In my own family, my grandfather and three of his children were blue-eyed, but the rest of the children inherited their brown eyes from my grandmother. As both my parents were blue-eyed, all of my siblings inherited the same eye colour. My husband has green eyes, so that two of our three had the most gorgeous aqua-coloured eyes when they were young, with one having decided blue eyes. Two of our children married spouses with darker eyes, so now there is this hazel to brown strain with some of their offspring.. Growing up among mainly blue-eyed people, I find darker-eyed people rather mysterious and dramatic (all in my head, of course). Maisie “A major new study of the DNA of the British Isles has found the highest level of the gene that causes the light iris colour in Edinburgh, the Lothians and Borders. Fifty-seven per cent in the south-east of Scotland have the OCA2 gene, compared with 48 per cent and 49 per cent in the rest of the country - a figure that also happens to be the average for the UK and Republic of Ireland.”