Queen Street Station is not near the Mitchell. It'd be a fair walk to it. There is a premier inn near the station....is there another one near Charing Cross. Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Jim Cowper via <lanark@rootsweb.com> Date:10/12/2015 12:49 PM (GMT+00:00) To: Linda <kiwikin@ihug.co.nz>,lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] B&B in Glasgow ideas please Anne I usually stay at The Premier Inn, Charing Cross, Glasgow  which is right across the road from the Mitchell. Its clean and comfortable and if you book in advance on the Internet there are usually good deals. The food is good but there are more than enough places to eat in the area. It is right next to Queens Street station which has trains into the city centre (4 minutes) or out to Loch Lomond etc. Just Google Premier Inn. Taxi to the airport costs £17 one way and takes no more than 15 minutes. Jim   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne I usually stay at The Premier Inn, Charing Cross, Glasgow which is right across the road from the Mitchell. Its clean and comfortable and if you book in advance on the Internet there are usually good deals. The food is good but there are more than enough places to eat in the area. It is right next to Queens Street station which has trains into the city centre (4 minutes) or out to Loch Lomond etc. Just Google Premier Inn. Taxi to the airport costs £17 one way and takes no more than 15 minutes. Jim

I suggest Visit Scotland as your most dependable source. They rate B & Bs very closely. They can find something by location, size, amenities, etc. Happy visit. Jeannette former Scotland Travel Specialist On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Ella, did you read this suggestion by Jim Cowper? > > Does he fly? Queen Street station is right in the middle of town adjacent > to George Square, so where's he coming from to suggest Queen St. station is > right next to the Mitchell? > > Also, the Premier is a chain (not necessarily inexpensive) and it's the > usual motel type offering. To me, when we were last in Glasgow, a B & B > might have been cheaper. Fortunately, we stayed at my brother's in Glasgow > but our friend stayed at a Premier Inn. > > As with anything else, you have to be careful about B & Bs, whereas the > better known chains, generally speaking, follow a certain regimen for > cleanliness. > > I can't travel anymore but I'd be a tourist in Glasgow as my brother sold > his house and is in some sort of apartment living in Bishopbriggs where > there is a guest arrangement (one room, I think). He says he misses his > garden, though this complex is not all concrete and does have some greenery > around, but he can't putter, of course. > > Maisie > > ------------------------------------------- > > :::Anne > I usually stay at The Premier Inn, Charing Cross, Glasgow which is > right across the road from the Mitchell. Its clean and comfortable and > if you book in advance on the Internet there are usually good deals. > The food is good but there are more than enough places to eat in the area. > It is right next to Queens Street station which has trains into the city > centre (4 minutes) or out to Loch Lomond etc. > Just Google Premier Inn. > Taxi to the airport costs £17 one way and takes no more than 15 minutes. > Jim::: > > -----Original Message----- > From: ebbtide.i via > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:48 AM > To: A Megget ; lanark@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Lanark] B&B in Glasgow ideas please > > Hi Anne > There are lots of websites for B&Bs in Glasgow. You could have a look and > check how close they are to the Mitchell. > Regards > Ella Riss > > > On 10 Dec 2015, at 19:38, A Megget via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Can anyone recommend a B&B or similar to stay in in Glasgow please? > > Medium price range and either within walking distance or good transport > > of or to the Mitchell Library. > > > > Many thanks > > > > Anne Megget > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > > the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. > Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the > following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ella, did you read this suggestion by Jim Cowper? Does he fly? Queen Street station is right in the middle of town adjacent to George Square, so where's he coming from to suggest Queen St. station is right next to the Mitchell? Also, the Premier is a chain (not necessarily inexpensive) and it's the usual motel type offering. To me, when we were last in Glasgow, a B & B might have been cheaper. Fortunately, we stayed at my brother's in Glasgow but our friend stayed at a Premier Inn. As with anything else, you have to be careful about B & Bs, whereas the better known chains, generally speaking, follow a certain regimen for cleanliness. I can't travel anymore but I'd be a tourist in Glasgow as my brother sold his house and is in some sort of apartment living in Bishopbriggs where there is a guest arrangement (one room, I think). He says he misses his garden, though this complex is not all concrete and does have some greenery around, but he can't putter, of course. Maisie ------------------------------------------- :::Anne I usually stay at The Premier Inn, Charing Cross, Glasgow which is right across the road from the Mitchell. Its clean and comfortable and if you book in advance on the Internet there are usually good deals. The food is good but there are more than enough places to eat in the area. It is right next to Queens Street station which has trains into the city centre (4 minutes) or out to Loch Lomond etc. Just Google Premier Inn. Taxi to the airport costs £17 one way and takes no more than 15 minutes. Jim::: -----Original Message----- From: ebbtide.i via Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:48 AM To: A Megget ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] B&B in Glasgow ideas please Hi Anne There are lots of websites for B&Bs in Glasgow. You could have a look and check how close they are to the Mitchell. Regards Ella Riss > On 10 Dec 2015, at 19:38, A Megget via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a B&B or similar to stay in in Glasgow please? > Medium price range and either within walking distance or good transport > of or to the Mitchell Library. > > Many thanks > > Anne Megget > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A friend sent me this, in response to my explanation of clootie dumpling: "I think most Scottish cuisine is based on a dare." ~ Mike Myers, So I Married An Axe Murderer Hope it makes you laugh..... Carole Kenney Upper Merion Supervisor This country will not be a permanently good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a reasonably good place for all of us to live in. -Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President (1858-1919) > > >

If you're making Clootie Dumpling in Canada, then I would suggest "Cake and Pastry Flour"--Five Roses makes a great product. It is much lower in protein than All-Purpose flour and is ideal for such products. Bread flour should never be used for anything other than making yeast bread and buns--that's where you want the high protein. -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dora Smith via Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 3:59 PM To: Cliff. Johnston; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition If protein content makes that kind of a difference, make sure you use general baking flour and not bread flour; the latter has more protein and produces harder baked goods. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Cliff. Johnston via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:26 PM To: Maisie Egger ; Jeannette Walton ; lanark@rootsweb.com ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Maisie, Your friends are correct. European flour does give significantly different results than North American flour. It has something to do with the protein in it - less in Europe, if I recall correctly. Much of it now comes from Turkey too. There is a wonderful flour made from an even higher protein wheat grown in Montana. I forget the name of it now, but I used to buy the wheat by the sack and mill it myself until some fool decided to run a red light and changed my life. The flavor is superb. Good hunting, Cliff. On Sunday, December 6, 2015 9:08 PM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: The last from me on the subject of the clootie dumpling: http://www.lovefood.com/journal/opinions/14211/how-to-make-a-clootie-dumpling My bracelet made of silver sixpences is more valuable that yours made of silver thruppennies, Jeannette, in more ways than one. Bear in mind that in my childhood a sixpence or threepence (thruppenny) was a small fortune as to get into the Saturday matinee was only one penny. We were also given a penny for our Sunday School collection, and a ha'penny could get you a small bag of sweeties (candy). The silver coins, sixpences and thruppenies (three pence) wrapped in wax paper and mixed with the clootie dumpling ingredients were in addition to the wee 'toty' (small) charms, also wrapped in wax paper: (From Google) :Charms also got stirred in so diners got a piece of their future with their slice of pudding (dumpling). Finding a coin meant wealth; a ring signified marriage; and a wishbone promised the finder his/her heart’s desire. The man who found a button and the woman who got a thimble were destined to stay single.: Then there was a tiny doll the length of a thumbnail but I've forgotten its significance. Maisie --------------------------------- From: Jeannette Walton via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:13 PM To: ianrodney ; Maisie Egger via Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Silver Threepence! When I first visited Scotland in 1959, a friend knew the "thrupennies" were out of circulation and was able to find a dozen for me, which I had made into a bracelet. Didn't remember about the clooties. No, sorry I won't divide my bracelet. It's a really great memory of a special friend and a special visit to Scotland. I've been hooked on Scotland since. Jeannette On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:16 PM, ianrodney via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Finding silver threepences is a bit like finding hens teeth. I remember my > mother putting them in dumplings back in the 50s /60s wrapped in > greaseproof paper. My birthday would not have been complete without a > clootie. Last one I had was made by my daughter for my 60th Birthday. > Hopefully get on for the 65th next year > > All the best from very wet Scotland > > Ian ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. 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Hello Maisie: Your "Clootie Dumpling" submission rekindled memories of my growing up in Scotland, although I have to admit that they weren't all of glowing nature. To put it mildly, the skin on the "Clootie" made me boak [From Middle English bolken ‎(“to vomit, overflow”)]. However, I just scraped off the floury white skin and enjoyed the core of the dumpling, including the hunt for the threepenny bits. The Lanark List wouldn't be the same without you Maisie! Jim ------------------------------- Today's Topics: 1. Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition (Maisie Egger)

Hi Ella I was going to write in to say we can't get suet here in Oz so was thrilled to see your message, I'm going searching tomorrow. We used to use it to make Onion Pudding, mixed with flour, grated onion, salt and water then cooked with the roast meat on Sundays in the fat in the bottom of the pan. I've been trying to find the origin of this recipe, was it my grandfather's (English from Norfolk) or my grandmother's (Welsh) with no success. I'm afraid I'm a bit slack and I buy my Christmas puddings from the supermarket and use the microwave to warm them up. Mr Google has just informed me that Clootie refers to the piece of material the pudding is wrapped in, similar to clout, as in "don't cast a clout until May is out". Teri Comans Researching Angove, Bylett, Comans, English, Horsey, Patrick, Ramsay, Travers -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lanark-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 7 December 2015 7:00 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: LANARK Digest, Vol 10, Issue 198 Message: 2 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:15:00 +1100 From: "Ella K. Ross" <ebbtide.i@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition To: Maisie Egger <campsiehills@sbcglobal.net>, lanark@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <ABDB8754-394E-4D83-88FD-285188DF639A@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Maisie Eat your heart out! Here in Australia suet is available in many supermarkets. I use Tandaco Prepared Suet Mix 250gms. In addition it makes the lightest fluffiest savoury dumplings for stew type dishes. Not the weight watcher's friend but comfort food at its best.

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I had better get my two penneth worth in before I'm too late! My mother (of half Perthshire Scottish descent) made yummy plum/fruit puddings using suet, mostly from the home slaughtered sheep. I seem to remember she grated the fat from around the kidneys. Being the 2nd youngest of 7 with 3 older sisters I was not very interested in cooking at that stage, but absolutely loved eating the puddings. If there was any left-over we would fry it in butter too, like Ella mentioned, yum. I also loved the 'skin'. At Christmas we had thruppences and sixpences together with charms too sometimes, if Kissin Sing the Indian hawker had been around, and I can remember eating until I nearly burst trying to get one! When my children were growing up, to save bloated tummies, I used to push a silver coin into their piece of pudding. Ours were not wrapped but sterilised in methylated spirits; well I did anyway, and as decimal currency had arrived when my kids were into Christmas I would swap their 'winnings' for the comparable cents. I am way behind the eight ball, I only have a pair of Australian thrupenny earrings. Oh, and by the way, because of failed efforts with water getting in I'm not into the boiled version, my puddings are steamed but still quite tasty, although not as good as mother's! Lorraine In Victoria, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger via Sent: Monday, 7 December 2015 2:07 PM To: Jeannette Walton; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition The last from me on the subject of the clootie dumpling: http://www.lovefood.com/journal/opinions/14211/how-to-make-a-clootie-dumpling My bracelet made of silver sixpences is more valuable that yours made of silver thruppennies, Jeannette, in more ways than one. Bear in mind that in my childhood a sixpence or threepence (thruppenny) was a small fortune as to get into the Saturday matinee was only one penny. We were also given a penny for our Sunday School collection, and a ha'penny could get you a small bag of sweeties (candy). The silver coins, sixpences and thruppenies (three pence) wrapped in wax paper and mixed with the clootie dumpling ingredients were in addition to the wee 'toty' (small) charms, also wrapped in wax paper: (From Google) :Charms also got stirred in so diners got a piece of their future with their slice of pudding (dumpling). Finding a coin meant wealth; a ring signified marriage; and a wishbone promised the finder his/her heart’s desire. The man who found a button and the woman who got a thimble were destined to stay single.: Then there was a tiny doll the length of a thumbnail but I've forgotten its significance. Maisie --------------------------------- From: Jeannette Walton via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:13 PM To: ianrodney ; Maisie Egger via Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Silver Threepence! When I first visited Scotland in 1959, a friend knew the "thrupennies" were out of circulation and was able to find a dozen for me, which I had made into a bracelet. Didn't remember about the clooties. No, sorry I won't divide my bracelet. It's a really great memory of a special friend and a special visit to Scotland. I've been hooked on Scotland since. Jeannette On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:16 PM, ianrodney via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Finding silver threepences is a bit like finding hens teeth. I remember my > mother putting them in dumplings back in the 50s /60s wrapped in > greaseproof paper. My birthday would not have been complete without a > clootie. Last one I had was made by my daughter for my 60th Birthday. > Hopefully get on for the 65th next year > > All the best from very wet Scotland > > Ian ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My late mother in law at our first family Christmas together back in about 1980 or so, "ensured" (bless her) I was the lucky recipient of two silver thruppenies I sealed them in sellotape and have had them in my wallet ever since :-) As Jack said there are plenty on ebay quite cheap, they are only really worth a lot when they are perfect or the odd unusual year or minting Years ago a very excited nephew ran up saying he had found a foreign coin, it was a 12 sided threepenny bit :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/12/2015 17:56, Jack P Mills via wrote: > Margaret, > > Silver thrupennies are often to be seen for sale on eBay. > If you don't have an account you may know someone who does. > Many aren't that expensive. > Fond memories of them, but too easy to lose through a wee hole in a pocket! > But they were certainly much lighter than the twelve-sided "widden" > thrupenny. > > Jack --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

If protein content makes that kind of a difference, make sure you use general baking flour and not bread flour; the latter has more protein and produces harder baked goods. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Cliff. Johnston via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:26 PM To: Maisie Egger ; Jeannette Walton ; lanark@rootsweb.com ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Maisie, Your friends are correct. European flour does give significantly different results than North American flour. It has something to do with the protein in it - less in Europe, if I recall correctly. Much of it now comes from Turkey too. There is a wonderful flour made from an even higher protein wheat grown in Montana. I forget the name of it now, but I used to buy the wheat by the sack and mill it myself until some fool decided to run a red light and changed my life. The flavor is superb. Good hunting, Cliff. On Sunday, December 6, 2015 9:08 PM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: The last from me on the subject of the clootie dumpling: http://www.lovefood.com/journal/opinions/14211/how-to-make-a-clootie-dumpling My bracelet made of silver sixpences is more valuable that yours made of silver thruppennies, Jeannette, in more ways than one. Bear in mind that in my childhood a sixpence or threepence (thruppenny) was a small fortune as to get into the Saturday matinee was only one penny. We were also given a penny for our Sunday School collection, and a ha'penny could get you a small bag of sweeties (candy). The silver coins, sixpences and thruppenies (three pence) wrapped in wax paper and mixed with the clootie dumpling ingredients were in addition to the wee 'toty' (small) charms, also wrapped in wax paper: (From Google) :Charms also got stirred in so diners got a piece of their future with their slice of pudding (dumpling). Finding a coin meant wealth; a ring signified marriage; and a wishbone promised the finder his/her heart’s desire. The man who found a button and the woman who got a thimble were destined to stay single.: Then there was a tiny doll the length of a thumbnail but I've forgotten its significance. Maisie --------------------------------- From: Jeannette Walton via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:13 PM To: ianrodney ; Maisie Egger via Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Silver Threepence! When I first visited Scotland in 1959, a friend knew the "thrupennies" were out of circulation and was able to find a dozen for me, which I had made into a bracelet. Didn't remember about the clooties. No, sorry I won't divide my bracelet. It's a really great memory of a special friend and a special visit to Scotland. I've been hooked on Scotland since. Jeannette On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:16 PM, ianrodney via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Finding silver threepences is a bit like finding hens teeth. I remember my > mother putting them in dumplings back in the 50s /60s wrapped in > greaseproof paper. My birthday would not have been complete without a > clootie. Last one I had was made by my daughter for my 60th Birthday. > Hopefully get on for the 65th next year > > All the best from very wet Scotland > > Ian ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Margaret, Silver thrupennies are often to be seen for sale on eBay. If you don't have an account you may know someone who does. Many aren't that expensive. Fond memories of them, but too easy to lose through a wee hole in a pocket! But they were certainly much lighter than the twelve-sided "widden" thrupenny. Jack ----------------------------------------------------------------- On 06/12/2015 22:54, Margaret McNab via wrote: > ...Wish I could find some silver threepence!!! Margaret

When I am making Scottish recipes I use Mrs Brodies. (not sure of the spelling and I am not going to the cupboard to check lol)  The results are always very acceptable Take CareMargaret Ontario From: Cliff. Johnston via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: Maisie Egger <campsiehills@sbcglobal.net>; Jeannette Walton <jtwalton13@gmail.com>; "lanark@rootsweb.com" <lanark@rootsweb.com>; "lanark@rootsweb.com" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Maisie, Your friends are correct.  European flour does give significantly different results than North American flour.  It has something to do with the protein in it - less in Europe, if I recall correctly.  Much of it now comes from Turkey too. There is a wonderful flour made from an even higher protein wheat grown in Montana.  I forget the name of it now, but I used to buy the wheat by the sack and mill it myself until some fool decided to run a red light and changed my life.  The flavor is superb. Good hunting, Cliff.     On Sunday, December 6, 2015 9:08 PM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: The last from me on the subject of the clootie dumpling: http://www.lovefood.com/journal/opinions/14211/how-to-make-a-clootie-dumpling My bracelet made of silver sixpences is more valuable that yours made of silver thruppennies, Jeannette, in more ways than one.    Bear in mind that in my childhood a sixpence or threepence (thruppenny) was a small fortune as to get into the Saturday matinee was only one penny.  We were also given a penny for our Sunday School collection, and a ha'penny could get you a small bag of sweeties (candy). The silver coins, sixpences and thruppenies (three pence) wrapped in wax paper and mixed with the clootie dumpling ingredients were in addition to the wee 'toty' (small) charms, also wrapped in wax paper: (From Google) :Charms also got stirred in so diners got a piece of their future with their slice of pudding (dumpling). Finding a coin meant wealth; a ring signified marriage; and a wishbone promised the finder his/her heart’s desire. The man who found a button and the woman who got a thimble were destined to stay single.: Then there was a tiny doll the length of a thumbnail but I've forgotten its significance. Maisie --------------------------------- From: Jeannette Walton via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:13 PM To: ianrodney ; Maisie Egger via Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Silver Threepence!  When I first visited Scotland in 1959, a friend knew the "thrupennies" were out of circulation and was able to find a dozen for me, which I had made into a bracelet.  Didn't remember about the clooties. No, sorry I won't divide my bracelet.  It's a really great memory of a special friend and a special visit to Scotland.  I've been hooked on Scotland since. Jeannette On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:16 PM, ianrodney via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Finding silver threepences is a bit like finding hens teeth. I remember my > mother putting them in dumplings back in the 50s /60s wrapped in > greaseproof  paper. My birthday would not have been complete without a > clootie. Last one I had was made by my daughter for my 60th Birthday. > Hopefully get on for the 65th next year > > All the best from very wet Scotland > > Ian   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message     ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maisie Eat your heart out! Here in Australia suet is available in many supermarkets. I use Tandaco Prepared Suet Mix 250gms. In addition it makes the lightest fluffiest savoury dumplings for stew type dishes. Not the weight watcher's friend but comfort food at its best. I think that dumpling is one of those things that some people can make and others can't. Recently my brother and I made a dumpling just like our mother used to with no real or accurate recipe I think the secret was that we tasted it "raw" or uncooked as we did as weans in Glasgow and made adjustments to taste. My Scottish sister in law, who admittedly can't make dumplings, was fed up with our fussiness. She says it's in our genes. We boiled it for 4 hours, then stuck it in the oven to get the skin as we didn't have the open fire like we used to. Pure dead magic! I sent you the recipe and a photo of my microwave dumpling. The recipe is a bit weird and nothing like a real dumpling but I give it 90%. People who aren't dumpling connoisseurs or have a great memory say it's just like the real deal. http://www.food.com/recipe/microwave-clootie-dumpling A couple of years ago we had a family reunion at a cabin resort on the beach in northern New South Wales. Not the place for 4hour boiling of a real dumpling. I made the microwave one and it was a big success. Possibly it was helped by a few drams that were sampled beforehand. Oh for a slice of fried dumpling and black pudding etc etc. Cheers Ella Ross Sydney > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So that is where my mum's Christmas Pudding comes from! Growing up it was always a tradition to help with making it (the recipe is very close to clootie dumpling recipe, except for the beef suet). Everyone had to have a stir and make a wish and until our currency changed from the pound to the dollar we could expect to find a threepence or sixpence buried deep as a surprise. I have made this a few times and my brother still expects one at Christmas. My g-grandmother was from Glasgow and all the family were involved in either Scottish dancing or the pipe band in Tenterfield where they had transplanted themselves. Music seemed to be a recurrent theme in the family. Are the Glaswegians a musical lot? Thanks for stirring the memories Maisie. Susan Qld, Australia -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger via Sent: Monday, 7 December 2015 5:29 AM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Culture and tradition: Clootie dumpling. When I was growing up in Glasgow, no child of my acquaintance ever had a birthday cake. The pièce de résistance at small birthday parties, Christmas or New Year was the ubiquitous clootie dumpling. (An English friend had never heard of such until recently.) http://foodanddrink.scotsman.com/food/a-history-of-the-clootie-dumpling-including-a-recipe-for-making-your-own/ Time and change, and how! My daughter’s children and theirs are very involved in 4-H and FFA (Future Farmers of America), so even working with and showing their animals, not one of them had heard of suet. I was going to very proudly show them how suet added to the taste and texture of a clootie dumpling last Christmas, but alas! There is no way that I can back this up, but I am sure that there was hardly a person growing up in Scotland who never tasted clootie dumpling...built into their Scottish DNA. Of course not. I am just trying to make the point that this wonderful concoction was very much a part of the culture. I hope it hasn’t gone by the wayside now that so many “mammies’ are out to work and may not have time to watch the clootie dumpling ‘bilin’ its heid aff’ for three hours to make sure the water doesn’t boil in. Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning all, I have happy childhood memories of my grandmother drying the clootie dumpling in front of an open coal fire wrapped in a muslin sheet. She used her mother's recipe and I still have my great grandmother's recipe, still on the piece of paper she wrote it on in the late 1800s. I have often made it myself (using the recipe and the last muslin sheet my grandmother washed and rewashed over the decades) but also now have a microwave recipe which works quite well. Meanwhile large parts of the northwest of England and the Scottish Borders have been devastated this weekend by flooding. Shap in Cumbria has seen around 12 inches of rain in little over 24 hours, more than one month's worth in what is already the wettest part of the UK (hence the reason it is the Lake District). Mark -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger via Sent: 06 December 2015 19:29 To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Culture and tradition: Clootie dumpling. When I was growing up in Glasgow, no child of my acquaintance ever had a birthday cake. The pièce de résistance at small birthday parties, Christmas or New Year was the ubiquitous clootie dumpling. (An English friend had never heard of such until recently.) http://foodanddrink.scotsman.com/food/a-history-of-the-clootie-dumpling-including-a-recipe-for-making-your-own/ My niece (Lenzie, Lanarkshire) made a ‘smashing’ clootie dumpling for my brother’s birthday last year using my mother’s recipe which I had passed on to her. Encouraged by her success, I attempted to make the same recipe last Christmas. What a disaster! It looked as if someone had taken a hammer to it! First, I had to use packaged Atora brand beef suet from the U.K. as regulations in this country preclude buying ‘suet on the hoof.’ Next, my mother used to maintain that any baking she did with flour milled in this country (USA) did not turn out right. I don’t know the reason, but my clootie dumpling was a sorry mess, though I watched it ‘bilin’ its heid aff” for over three hours, not to mention ruining a sterilised pillowcase. What an utter waste of ingredients, effort and time! Now ex-pats assure me that a microwave version turns out very well, but photos of such do not show the ‘skin’ which would give the clootie dumpling ‘ballast,’ so to speak. It certainly would cut down on the three to four hours to boil the concoction in a deep pot, ever alert that the water did not boil in. Time and change, and how! My daughter’s children and theirs are very involved in 4-H and FFA (Future Farmers of America), so even working with and showing their animals, not one of them had heard of suet. I was going to very proudly show them how suet added to the taste and texture of a clootie dumpling last Christmas, but alas! There is no way that I can back this up, but I am sure that there was hardly a person growing up in Scotland who never tasted clootie dumpling...built into their Scottish DNA. Of course not. I am just trying to make the point that this wonderful concoction was very much a part of the culture. I hope it hasn’t gone by the wayside now that so many “mammies’ are out to work and may not have time to watch the clootie dumpling ‘bilin’ its heid aff’ for three hours to make sure the water doesn’t boil in. Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Subject: Fw: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Talk about recycling, that takes the CAKE!! A well used muslin sheet, a RELIC!! Recalls Granny every year! Family heirloom........ Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sutherland-Fisher (HFH)via Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:05 AM To: 'Maisie Egger' ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Morning all, I have happy childhood memories of my grandmother drying the clootie dumpling in front of an open coal fire wrapped in a muslin sheet. She used her mother's recipe and I still have my great grandmother's recipe, still on the piece of paper she wrote it on in the late 1800s. I have often made it myself (using the recipe and the last muslin sheet my grandmother washed and rewashed over the decades) but also now have a microwave recipe which works quite well. Meanwhile large parts of the northwest of England and the Scottish Borders have been devastated this weekend by flooding. Shap in Cumbria has seen around 12 inches of rain in little over 24 hours, more than one month's worth in what is already the wettest part of the UK (hence the reason it is the Lake District). Mark

Maisie, Your friends are correct.  European flour does give significantly different results than North American flour.  It has something to do with the protein in it - less in Europe, if I recall correctly.  Much of it now comes from Turkey too. There is a wonderful flour made from an even higher protein wheat grown in Montana.  I forget the name of it now, but I used to buy the wheat by the sack and mill it myself until some fool decided to run a red light and changed my life.  The flavor is superb. Good hunting, Cliff. On Sunday, December 6, 2015 9:08 PM, Maisie Egger via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: The last from me on the subject of the clootie dumpling: http://www.lovefood.com/journal/opinions/14211/how-to-make-a-clootie-dumpling My bracelet made of silver sixpences is more valuable that yours made of silver thruppennies, Jeannette, in more ways than one.    Bear in mind that in my childhood a sixpence or threepence (thruppenny) was a small fortune as to get into the Saturday matinee was only one penny.  We were also given a penny for our Sunday School collection, and a ha'penny could get you a small bag of sweeties (candy). The silver coins, sixpences and thruppenies (three pence) wrapped in wax paper and mixed with the clootie dumpling ingredients were in addition to the wee 'toty' (small) charms, also wrapped in wax paper: (From Google) :Charms also got stirred in so diners got a piece of their future with their slice of pudding (dumpling). Finding a coin meant wealth; a ring signified marriage; and a wishbone promised the finder his/her heart’s desire. The man who found a button and the woman who got a thimble were destined to stay single.: Then there was a tiny doll the length of a thumbnail but I've forgotten its significance. Maisie --------------------------------- From: Jeannette Walton via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:13 PM To: ianrodney ; Maisie Egger via Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Silver Threepence!  When I first visited Scotland in 1959, a friend knew the "thrupennies" were out of circulation and was able to find a dozen for me, which I had made into a bracelet.  Didn't remember about the clooties. No, sorry I won't divide my bracelet.  It's a really great memory of a special friend and a special visit to Scotland.  I've been hooked on Scotland since. Jeannette On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:16 PM, ianrodney via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Finding silver threepences is a bit like finding hens teeth. I remember my > mother putting them in dumplings back in the 50s /60s wrapped in > greaseproof  paper. My birthday would not have been complete without a > clootie. Last one I had was made by my daughter for my 60th Birthday. > Hopefully get on for the 65th next year > > All the best from very wet Scotland > > Ian   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Finding silver threepences is a bit like finding hens teeth. I remember my mother putting them in dumplings back in the 50s /60s wrapped in greaseproof  paper. My birthday would not have been complete without a clootie. Last one I had was made by my daughter for my 60th Birthday. Hopefully get on for the 65th next year All the best from very wet Scotland Ian Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: Margaret McNab via <lanark@rootsweb.com> Date: 06/12/2015 22:54 (GMT+00:00) To: Dora Smith <villandra@gmail.com>, lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Just have to jump in here. I have been making mine with vegetable oil for many years. A Scottish lady told me that was what she used since her husband had heart problem.Suet is hard to get now too.I have also tried the micro wave version. It is pretty good but I still like the old way.More therapeutic.Wish I could find some silver threepence!!! Margaret From: Dora Smith via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: Susan Hamilton <rmshamilton@bigpond.com>; lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition You know, I bet it's often made with vegetable shortening. ;) Dora -----Original Message----- From: Susan Hamilton via Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 4:30 PM To: 'Maisie Egger' ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition So that is where my mum's Christmas Pudding comes from! Growing up it was always a tradition to help with making it (the recipe is very close to clootie dumpling recipe, except for the beef suet). Everyone had to have a stir and make a wish and until our currency changed from the pound to the dollar we could expect to find a threepence or sixpence buried deep as a surprise. I have made this a few times and my brother still expects one at Christmas. My g-grandmother was from Glasgow and all the family were involved in either Scottish dancing or the pipe band in Tenterfield where they had transplanted themselves. Music seemed to be a recurrent theme in the family. Are the Glaswegians a musical lot? Thanks for stirring the memories Maisie. Susan Qld, Australia -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger via Sent: Monday, 7 December 2015 5:29 AM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Clootie dumpling Scottish tradition Culture and tradition: Clootie dumpling. When I was growing up in Glasgow, no child of my acquaintance ever had a birthday cake. The pièce de résistance at small birthday parties, Christmas or New Year was the ubiquitous clootie dumpling. (An English friend had never heard of such until recently.) http://foodanddrink.scotsman.com/food/a-history-of-the-clootie-dumpling-including-a-recipe-for-making-your-own/ Time and change, and how! My daughter’s children and theirs are very involved in 4-H and FFA (Future Farmers of America), so even working with and showing their animals, not one of them had heard of suet. I was going to very proudly show them how suet added to the taste and texture of a clootie dumpling last Christmas, but alas! There is no way that I can back this up, but I am sure that there was hardly a person growing up in Scotland who never tasted clootie dumpling...built into their Scottish DNA. Of course not. I am just trying to make the point that this wonderful concoction was very much a part of the culture. I hope it hasn’t gone by the wayside now that so many “mammies’ are out to work and may not have time to watch the clootie dumpling ‘bilin’ its heid aff’ for three hours to make sure the water doesn’t boil in. Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. 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