Can anyone tell me what 109 Firpark street (Dennistoun) Glasgow was in 1913 where a 6 year old child died of epilepsy? Was it a house or hospital? I have checked Google maps and it now appears to be a high rise building. Judy

Judy, No doubt 109 Firpark Street, Dennistoun, was a tenement (not a high rise, that is a more modern nomenclature when the old tenements were demolished to make way for high-rise flats, the highest being the Red Road flats, 34 storeys (sp?) high and at one point the highest in Europe but most of which have recently been demolished.) Firpark Street runs adjacent to the Necropolis Cemetery, and by extension near the Glasgow Cathedral and Royal Infirmary. That whole section of Glasgow has been 'gutted,' shall we say, and many of the tenements are no more, either being replaced by modern flats or 'spare ground.' I was born not too far away from Firpark St., and the whole area has been built over to accommodate the University of Strathclyde or student housing or has been replaced by little pockets of greenery. The whole area is quite unrecognisable now from when I lived in Glasgow. (By the way, Firpark Street is cheek by jowl with Townhead, the oldest part of Glasgow where St. Kentigern (or Mungo) decided to dedicate the spot for his cathedral.) Maisie http://www.britishstreets.info/firpark-street-dennistoun-glasgow-strathclyde -----Original Message----- From: Judy Wardlaw via Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 3:04 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Firpark street Glasgow Can anyone tell me what 109 Firpark street (Dennistoun) Glasgow was in 1913 where a 6 year old child died of epilepsy? Was it a house or hospital? I have checked Google maps and it now appears to be a high rise building. Judy ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George, Maisie et al, No doubt George, you have the article of the Northern Ceramic Soc. Journal Vol. 25 2008-2009 by Denis Ayers? This is a broad spectrum of potteries and much or their history. Denis also sent me many photos of items unearthed at some of the 'digs'. You should have my family info sent to you in 2010; from this I am still trying to find from where my John KEITH and named wife Margaret SMITH came from to be living in Edinburgh c1830s where their son Thomas b c1837 names Stockbridge as his place of birth on all census. To date I have no confirmation of Thomas' birth/bapt. c1837, it is not on SP, were they Episcopalian? Did the family move north to the potteries in Midlothian from the clay pans in Co. Durham as there are many KEITHs to be found in the early records of that county? Again, following the trail of Maisie's HILLCOATS > Midlothian > Townhead > Rutherglen etc. Another of my hurdles is BRASS BANDS....I believe Thomas and his sons all played brass! In Denis' article there is a photograph of the Melling Brass Band in Lancaster; Melling being another pottery where Thomas was moved to when working at Murray's Caledonian in Rutherglen. This family were also in the Rutherglen Burgh Brass Band, did this band also have ties to the Caledonian? I have the names of the potteries in Kirkcaldy FIF but as to which is the correct one Thomas was working at in 1891 I have no idea. When you find children born in differing places it is in some cases very easy to follow the occupation and named companies where their employment might have been. This is the case with Thomas KEITH b c1837 Stockbridge (mar Janet McQUEEN), and his son Thomas b 1861 Weaver St Townhead (mar Annie Freebairn BEVERIDGE)... Maisie, somehow I think we were destined to meet each other, our families always living close to each other as found on census and then finding the same on the Valuation Rolls available from SP. Regards Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger via Subject: Re: [Lanark] Your Relatives - the Hillcoat Potters It's a bit daunting to go ferreting around the myriad Hillcoat names I have, beginning 1645 with Thomas Hillcoat, Newcastle, potter. I think also, apart from brickworks, that Prestonpans/Portobello Hillcoat pottery produced roof and drain tiles, not fine pottery as such: http://www.prestoungrange.org/core-files/archive/scottish_pottery.pdf After the Hillcoat East coast pottery works closed (?), some Hillcoats are to be found in Paisley, Renfrewshire, and then in potteries in Glasgow. Jenny Myers on this list has Keith relatives who lived in the same tenement in Townhead, Glasgow as one of my Hillcoat relatives, before both transferred to the pottery in Rutherglen (South Lanarkshire) where they also lived in the same tenement building. I still can't get over this coincidence, and then that another lister sent us a photograph of the Townhead tenement where Jenny's Keith and my Hillcoat greats lived! I really appreciate that you have kept Hillcoat in mind to forward this information to me. Maisie From: G Russell Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 3:23 PM To: Maisie Egger ; lanark@rootsweb.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thanks for this additional information. I didn't know there was an Andrew Hillcoat as I thought it was Anthony who did 'walkies' over the border. I need to go back and check some more, but I thought the first pottery was in Prestonpans, then another in Musselburgh, and then I believe Portobello (as you note) and then maybe Leith...this latter could be doubtful, however. It's a bit daunting to go ferreting around the myriad Hillcoat names I have, beginning 1645 with Thomas Hillcoat, Newcastle, potter. I think also, apart from brickworks, that Prestonpans/Portobello Hillcoat pottery produced roof and drain tiles, not fine pottery as such: http://www.prestoungrange.org/core-files/archive/scottish_pottery.pdf On Google there is a Hillcoat Place, Portobello, Edinburgh. I suppose Portobello is now considered an annex, if you will, of Edinburgh, but when I lived in Glasgow, Portobello was a separate district entirely. Is it a stretch to think that this Hillcoat Place was named after the potter? I remember the Portobello Swimming pool when travelling en route to visit relatives In Mid Calder, Midlothian. Was it called the Lido, or am I thinking of some other place, maybe on the Clyde? After the Hillcoat East coast pottery works closed (?), some Hillcoats are to be found in Paisley, Renfrewshire, and then in potteries in Glasgow. Jenny Myers on this list has Keith relatives who lived in the same tenement in Townhead, Glasgow as one of my Hillcoat relatives, before both transferred to the pottery in Rutherglen (South Lanarkshire) where they also lived in the same tenement building. I still can't get over this coincidence, and then that another lister sent us a photograph of the Townhead tenement where Jenny's Keith and my Hillcoat greats lived! I really appreciate that you have kept Hillcoat in mind to forward this information to me. Maisie From: G Russell Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 3:23 PM To: Maisie Egger ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Your Relatives - the Hillcoat Potters Hi Maisie, I found another reference to your potter relatives - in a wee book on the history of Portobello potteries :- In a text by William Baird (complete reference available) on the uses of the site of what was Portobello Pottery (latterly operated by A.W. Buchan and others he says 'Originally built by Andrew Hilcoat about 1786 , we find it about forty years afterwards converted into a soap works' Mr Hilcoat owned the brickworks on the north west side of the Figgate Burn, on which site, this century (20th ?) the Open Air Swimming Pool (famous in Portobello ! Sean Connery was the life guard ) was constructed., that too has gone and a sports complex now occupies this site. So, by 1786 he must have moved his business from Musselburgh to Portobello !!! Progress !!! G Russell ---

Hi All I've been reading all the posts. Proud to announce that with a maiden surname Smith and plenty of Browns that I'm a true Scot. Despite this I have not found enormous difficulty in my searches. Regarding disappointments: Scotlandspeople is unable to have information that no longer exists. Many old church and parish records have been destroyed, burnt, flooded, eaten by rodents etc etc. Regards Ella Ross Sydney

Hi JoAnn, Thanks for that explanation, certainly makes sense. That just leaves the questions of: 1. Where were they in 1911? 2. What happened to their son John? Thank You. Dean Scapolo. ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Dean, > > Not that it matters, but I don't think they were Canadian > citizens in 1919 as in the area on the manifest which asks > if you had been in Canada before, James states he was in > Alberta abt 3-1/2 yrs before. The form can be confusing > as the officials were very sloppy in filling in the > spaces. > > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:31 PM, scapolo.dean > <scapolo.dean@clear.net.nz> wrote: > > > > > Hi JoAnn, > > Thank you so much for that. It answer much of my query. > > The shipping list you provided shows they were Canadian > > Citizens when they went to Canada in 1919, I can only > > surmise that they were there at some earlier stage, when > > , i don't know. And there is no sign of John, their son. > > Probably married by the 1921 census, would have been > > about 26/27. That is, if he survived. > > > > > Dean Scapolo Newlands, Wellington, New Zealand NZ Chart Consultant (Informal)  

There are some possible explanations. One is that they were not actually from Scotland at all. Another is that they were, but any records that survive used some spelling variant you have yet to reinvent, possibly even one that doesn't start with the letter 'k'. Or they were originally English, and when they moved to Scotland they attended the Episcopal Church, which is analogous to the Church of England. The surviving records of the Episcopal churches are not on Scotland's People, and they are often pretty hard to find. Anne From: Alexandra Haslip via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: 'Nivard Ovington' <ovington.one@gmail.com>; lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 17 April 2016, 21:34 Subject: Re: [Lanark] Twenty most common names in Scotland Thank you Nivard. I have explored ScotlandsPeople using known variants but with no luck. Seems strange there isn't a single one in the 1700 to 1800 period. I have looked several times. Alexandra   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi JoAnn, Thank you so much for that. It answer much of my query. The shipping list you provided shows they were Canadian Citizens when they went to Canada in 1919, I can only surmise that they were there at some earlier stage, when, i don't know. And there is no sign of John, their son. Probably married by the 1921 census, would have been about 26/27. That is, if he survived. Your help is greatly appreciated, thank you. Dean Scapolo. ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Dean, > > There is a Mary Lindsay buried in Mountain View Cemetery, > Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada which you can view on > findagrave.com. Find A Grave Memorial# 108403968 > > Her birth date matches that of Mary Robertson born in > Dalserf to Thomas and Janet (Reid) Robertson. I don't see > any grave for James. As the list does not accept > attachments, I am sending you separately the 1919 > passenger manifest and the 1921 Canadian census that show > James & Mary. > > It looks like he accepted a post in a coal mine in > Coalhurst, Alberta. > > Jo-Ann Croft > > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:03 PM, scapolo.dean via > <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to find my gt-grandfather's brother and his > > family. > > James Lindsay, born 1867 in Dalziel. > > Mary Lindsay (Nee Robertson), born 1868 in Dalserf. > > John Lindsay, born 1894 in Glasgow. > > > > I have James in 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901. Mary in 1891 > > and 1901 (They married in 1890), and John in 1901. But I > > can't find any trace of them in 1911. > > I've been trying to track them down elsewhere, with > > little success, as most websites require payments / > > annual subscriptions. > > > > > Dean Scapolo Newlands, Wellington, New Zealand NZ Chart Consultant (Informal)  

Thank you Nivard. I have explored ScotlandsPeople using known variants but with no luck. Seems strange there isn't a single one in the 1700 to 1800 period. I have looked several times. Alexandra

If we deal with years instead of "greats".....Jonathan was born ca 1718 (record from his family Bible and supposedly emigrated to the US ca. 1738. That's all I have in the way of dates. Thank you all for your help. Alexandra -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Burgess via Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 1:35 AM To: Dora Smith; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Kearsley I am sorry, but I beg to differ. First, if it's a 3-ggfather, it's too late for even late mediaeval records. A ggggf is only 5 generations back, and if you equate a generation to 30 years, that's only 150 years, so you're looking in the early 1800s or just possibly late 1700s. Second, never, never, never trust a family tree you come across in any web site or even in a printed book. By all means use it as a pointer to where to look. but although there are undoubtedly many excellent and well-researched genealogies out there, there are some that can at best be politely described as pure fantasy, and many more whose authors have been guilty of sloppy research, in particular making the classic error of assuming that, because there is only one candidate in the readily accessible records, it has to be the right person. The main source of genuine original records covering the period you are looking at is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. There are incomplete and sometimes not entirely trustworthy indexes covering many of the Scotland's People records in the International Genealogical Index at https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi?collectionNameFilter=true Anne From: Dora Smith via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: Alexandra Haslip <alexandra333@comcast.net>; lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 16 April 2016, 16:20 Subject: Re: [Lanark] Twenty most common names in Scotland I suggest you google these two names and the word surname. The several web sites that sell reports on your name, also give unexpectedly good information on where late medieval records turn up. There are additionally Scottish name references that often contain information of that nature. Google might also find you an entire history if a family by that name is known to have been established in one place. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Alexandra Haslip via Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 10:04 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Twenty most common names in Scotland Did I see, in passing, an email which talked about where clusters of a particular surname might be found in Scotland? I'm working with very little information on a 3Xgreatgrandfather who came from Scotland, but I have no idea where to start looking for him. His surname was "KEARSLEY" or a variant Kersley. Thanks for any help. (& I love this list. It's active & interesting.) Alexandra ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7539 / Virus Database: 4545/12042 - Release Date: 04/16/16

Dean, Not that it matters, but I don't think they were Canadian citizens in 1919 as in the area on the manifest which asks if you had been in Canada before, James states he was in Alberta abt 3-1/2 yrs before. The form can be confusing as the officials were very sloppy in filling in the spaces. On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:31 PM, scapolo.dean <scapolo.dean@clear.net.nz> wrote: > > Hi JoAnn, > Thank you so much for that. It answer much of my query. The > shipping list you provided shows they were Canadian Citizens > when they went to Canada in 1919, I can only surmise that > they were there at some earlier stage, when, i don't know. > And there is no sign of John, their son. Probably married by > the 1921 census, would have been about 26/27. That is, if he > survived. > >

Hi, I am trying to find my gt-grandfather's brother and his family. James Lindsay, born 1867 in Dalziel. Mary Lindsay (Nee Robertson), born 1868 in Dalserf. John Lindsay, born 1894 in Glasgow. I have James in 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901. Mary in 1891 and 1901 (They married in 1890), and John in 1901. But I can't find any trace of them in 1911. I've been trying to track them down elsewhere, with little success, as most websites require payments / annual subscriptions. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Dean Scapolo. Dean Scapolo Newlands, Wellington, New Zealand NZ Chart Consultant (Informal)  

No statistics as such as there simply aren't any On scotlandspeople No KEARSLEY in OPRs (1538 to 1854) First births of 81 in 1871 First (male) marriage of 31 in 1882 First death of 26 in 1879 Wills & Testaments 4 hits earliest 1894 No KERSLEY in OPRs (1538 to 1854) First birth of 17 in 1909 First (male) marriage of 11 in 1908 First death of 23 in 1881 So unless there is an alternative spelling I do not see a Scottish connection Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/04/2016 22:11, Alexandra Haslip wrote: > Thank you, Nivard. Any statistics for the early 1700s? He was born in 1718 > and emigrated to the US in 1738. Alexandra > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

I am sorry, but I beg to differ. First, if it's a 3-ggfather, it's too late for even late mediaeval records. A ggggf is only 5 generations back, and if you equate a generation to 30 years, that's only 150 years, so you're looking in the early 1800s or just possibly late 1700s. Second, never, never, never trust a family tree you come across in any web site or even in a printed book. By all means use it as a pointer to where to look. but although there are undoubtedly many excellent and well-researched genealogies out there, there are some that can at best be politely described as pure fantasy, and many more whose authors have been guilty of sloppy research, in particular making the classic error of assuming that, because there is only one candidate in the readily accessible records, it has to be the right person. The main source of genuine original records covering the period you are looking at is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. There are incomplete and sometimes not entirely trustworthy indexes covering many of the Scotland's People records in the International Genealogical Index at https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi?collectionNameFilter=true Anne From: Dora Smith via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: Alexandra Haslip <alexandra333@comcast.net>; lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 16 April 2016, 16:20 Subject: Re: [Lanark] Twenty most common names in Scotland I suggest you google these two names and the word surname.    The several web sites that sell reports on your name, also give unexpectedly good information on where late medieval records turn up.  There are additionally Scottish name references that often contain information of that nature. Google might also find you an entire history if a family by that name is known to have been established in one place. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Alexandra Haslip via Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 10:04 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Twenty most common names in Scotland Did I see, in passing, an email which talked about where clusters of a particular surname might be found in Scotland? I'm working with very little information on a 3Xgreatgrandfather who came from Scotland, but I have no idea where to start looking for him. His surname was "KEARSLEY" or a variant Kersley.  Thanks for any help. (& I love this list. It's active & interesting.)  Alexandra ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The place to start looking is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk Anne From: Alexandra Haslip via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 16 April 2016, 16:04 Subject: Re: [Lanark] Twenty most common names in Scotland Did I see, in passing, an email which talked about where clusters of a particular surname might be found in Scotland? I'm working with very little information on a 3Xgreatgrandfather who came from Scotland, but I have no idea where to start looking for him. His surname was "KEARSLEY" or a variant Kersley.  Thanks for any help. (& I love this list. It's active & interesting.)  Alexandra   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi My Gran was a Thornton she was born in Ireland went to live in Scotland When i did my DNA it came back i was 70% British 25% Scandinavian and 5% European Regards Jean ________________________________________ From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com <lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Nivard Ovington via <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 17 April 2016 1:23 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Thornton From SURNAMES OF THE UNITED KINGDOM: A CONCISE ETYMOLOGICAL DICTIONARY BY H E N R Y H A R R I S O N 1918 THORNTON (Eng. and Scand.) Bel. to Thornton ; or Dweller at the THORN - Tree ENCLOSURE or FARMSTEAD [O.E. O.N. \orn + O.E. O.N. tun] Thornton, Dorset, occurs in a charter A.D. 958 as 'aet porntune' — dat. The various York. Thorntons appear in Domesday-Bk. as Torentun, Torentune, Tornetun, Torneton, Tornitun ; Lanc. Domesday entries being Torenton, Torentun; Chesh., Torintone. Forms in the Hundred-Rolls (A.D. 1274) are Thorneton, Thorntone. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/04/2016 15:09, Jeannette Walton via wrote: > Thank you, Anne. I shall continue my pursuit of the Thorntons. Here in > America, any time I've said we were Scots, were told "oh no, that's > English" Brrrr. Maybe a few of them headed south, but my line are still > Scots. > > My group were in the West Lothian area and someone married a person from > Shotts. Haven't seen a Duncan yet, but there's always a chance. > > Someone on this list shared the info from Black's book and I've been able > to order one, so it will be another read for me. > > Thanks to all. > Jeannette --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello: If I may offer some direction: After just 10 minutes of looking into this [Jonathan Kearsley, said to have been born in 1718 in Scotland, came to America ca. 1738]: and [Relationships acknowledged but as yet undetermined: John Kearsley, MD of Greatham, Durham, England]: I would seriously consider to start with the latter [John Kearsley of Greatham]: Greatham is a VERY small place and the surname more uncommon as such. >From the book: [.. that the two Drs. John Kearsley, of PA, uncle and nephew came from the county of Durham, England. That his father said that the other Kearsleys were from England, and came hither from Scotland, and were of one family with the Philadelphia Kearsleys; that he had evidence of this in papers destroyed in 1813]; [Keep in mind people by now don't remember what those papers said, so we could have first cousins here too !!!]: Your Jonathan Kearsley is from England, related to the other Kearsley of Greatham. When we come to Durham, we find a contingent of Kearsley that has been here for quite some time. And from Greatham to Sedgefield to (AUCKLAND SAINT ANDREW: I guess is St. Andrew Church in Bishop Auckland nearby) to Gateshead, which is quite near Scotland as it is. The [Bishop Auckland] records go under [Cairsley] to about 1570 : https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5WG-D97 : Robert Cairsley b:c.1555. My immediate impression is that you will be sitting right on top of your Kearsley right here in Durham !!!. Surnames often change about the 1600 mark and before, here maybe about 1620 and before. You might find some initial records hard to find, but .... I am almost certain I am in the right place here. You need to add ALL of these Kearsley etc., all of them. You might find your Kearsley and this other Dr. Kearsley might not be first cousins, I don't expect them to be, but I expect them to be of nearish kin. In other words, they have a common Kearsley ancestor not far this tree at all, and so, start from the more solid Kearsley in Greatham. Get ROCK SOLID on this John Kearsley of Greatham !!!. Get his bp detail, his parents, their parents, and take it from there. The first name of JOHN is very strong!. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N58J-WH3 : [John Kearsley bp:04-06-1684 Greatham son of John Kearsley]: I suspect there are at least TWO Kearsley in Greatham for a simialar time line (TL), one this John Kearsley here, and then maybe Oliver Kearsley bp:26-09-1686 Greatham, of whom I might add: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5Z4-Z6P : Seems to be the same person, has a son John Kearsley bp:07-07-1724 Sedgefield Durham. === *John Kearsley: 1. Robert Kearsley 1680. 2. John Kearsley d:1683. 3. John Kearsley 1684. 4. Oliver Kearsley 1686. a. John Kearsley 1724**. *Oliver Kearsley: 1. Margerye Kearsley c.1685. 2. John Kearsley 1686. 3. ?. * Probably brothers ?. This is not complete here!. === Patterns, TL, and place, suggest and allow that both the PA John Kearsley could actually be grandsons of the male lines above. [John Kearsley 1724**]: I am unsure if your 1718 is estimated or based on something, this JK1724 a possible candidate etc. Bart .... -----Original Message----- I'm working with very little information on a 3Xgreatgrandfather who came from Scotland, but I have no idea where to start looking for him. His surname was "KEARSLEY" or a variant Kersley. Thanks for any help. (& I love this list. It's active & interesting.) Alexandra. ---------------------------------

Dean, There is a Mary Lindsay buried in Mountain View Cemetery, Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada which you can view on findagrave.com. Find A Grave Memorial# 108403968 Her birth date matches that of Mary Robertson born in Dalserf to Thomas and Janet (Reid) Robertson. I don't see any grave for James. As the list does not accept attachments, I am sending you separately the 1919 passenger manifest and the 1921 Canadian census that show James & Mary. It looks like he accepted a post in a coal mine in Coalhurst, Alberta. Jo-Ann Croft On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:03 PM, scapolo.dean via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to find my gt-grandfather's brother and his > family. > James Lindsay, born 1867 in Dalziel. > Mary Lindsay (Nee Robertson), born 1868 in Dalserf. > John Lindsay, born 1894 in Glasgow. > > I have James in 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901. Mary in 1891 and > 1901 (They married in 1890), and John in 1901. But I can't > find any trace of them in 1911. > I've been trying to track them down elsewhere, with little > success, as most websites require payments / annual > subscriptions. > >

Scotland census transcripts on Ancestry KEARSLEY 1871 x 2 1881 x 11 1891 x 7 1901 x 1 Of those in 1881 There are 11 hits 5 males 4 out 5 were born in England 1 born Aberdeen (son of the above) 6 females 5 born Scotland 1 born England KERSLEY 1 hit in the census in 1861 x 1 born England The NT surname profiler shows the largest concentrations around Lancashire, Northumberland in 1881 UK Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/04/2016 16:40, Alexandra Haslip wrote: > Thank you, Nivard. I have that information. What I'm looking for is where > there are clusters of the name Kearsleys found in Scotland. For example, I > know there are some around Glasgow and some around Edinburgh. Alexandra > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Bart, I should have told you what I have done so far. I am certain that the Durham bunch is related. In fact I think that area (town of Kearsley in Lancashire) )is their point of origin. Family lore hints that the Kearsleys in Philadelphia in the 1700s were related and they came from Durham. I think Jonathan's family probably migrated from there (Durham) to Scotland. I have begun a one-name study through the Guild in England and am now mapping all Kearsleys (and some variants) in Lancashire, Durham, Cheshire, Yorkshire, etc. I am connecting a Y-DNA study to this and so far have samples from Jonathan's family and the Durham bunch (& others)-hoping to have those results soon. As I map I try to get commitments to join the YDNA study. It's slow and quite honestly, optimistic to believe I'll find connections, but it is a last resort & I'm having fun with it. I'm putting out feelers everywhere I go (on the Internet) with the hope that something, somewhere will connect with someone. I don't take any records too seriously, but try to look at all possibilities. I haven't done too much in Scotland yet except get in touch with every Rootsweb list I can find. I'll probably begin with Edinburgh & Glasgow records, but I realize it's a shot in the dark. Also I've pretty much scoured Ancestry but.....there could well be something I've missed. I'm open to any and all suggestions. Alexandra