http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/LKS/cemeteries-gla FYI: List of cemeteries in Glasgow. Maisie

Hi Maisie, It is a memorial stone to William Miller that is the Glasgow Necropolis. He is actually buried in the Miller Family Plot in Egypt. That is Egypt, Tollcross, Glasgow in the Corbett St Cemetery but I believe the lair is unmarked. billy

I forgot to say that quite a few of the names on the headstones in the Auchencairn cemetery are of those who died after the person who originally set up the headstone, so we don't know who arranged for the names to be inscribed or who paid for them later. Not very thoughtful to have the person's name ignored who had arranged for the set up of the headstones originally. It would have been interesting if we knew even a snippet about him, and then wonder how he could have afforded to have such large headstones erected to begin with. The monumental masons in that area did not keep such records, drat! M.E. -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:10 PM To: Maisie Egger ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Backyard burials in French Polynesia Perhaps the 'arranger' was still ALIVE & did not not know the dote of his up-coming demise ? -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger via Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 11:30 AM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Backyard burials in French Polynesia Well, I suppose we should be grateful for municipal and parish cemeteries in G.B., where records of the deceased have been maintained usually (but not always) in one way or another, especially on headstones. I have photos of two headstones of my father’s forebears who are buried in Auchencairn cemetery, Kirkcudbrightshire, with as many names as can fit on both quite large headstones. A family tree in itself. The odd thing is that the person who seemingly arranged for family names to be inscribed on the headstones is conspicuous by the absence of his own name. My memory did not fail me when I thought I remembered that I was told that families were buried on their own property in French Polynesia. http://www.travelingsolemates.com/bora-bora-behind-the-scenes/ Maisie

Perhaps the 'arranger' was still ALIVE & did not not know the dote of his up-coming demise ? -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger via Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 11:30 AM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Backyard burials in French Polynesia Well, I suppose we should be grateful for municipal and parish cemeteries in G.B., where records of the deceased have been maintained usually (but not always) in one way or another, especially on headstones. I have photos of two headstones of my father’s forebears who are buried in Auchencairn cemetery, Kirkcudbrightshire, with as many names as can fit on both quite large headstones. A family tree in itself. The odd thing is that the person who seemingly arranged for family names to be inscribed on the headstones is conspicuous by the absence of his own name. My memory did not fail me when I thought I remembered that I was told that families were buried on their own property in French Polynesia. http://www.travelingsolemates.com/bora-bora-behind-the-scenes/ Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Billy, Yes, I read on the Google site about William Miller that he was buried in Tollcross...in a family plot, though he was supposed to be destitute. Would this lead you to believe that his family, at least, must have had enough money to have a plot. As a family, we had no money, so is a plot the same as a lair, as the one where my father is buried in Sighthill Cemetery, Springburn, is 'full up' with the maximum six bodies, I believe? There's only my brother, a niece and her family, and then a cousin in Larkhall and his family left of the big family I came from, so my brother discouraged me from erecting a headstone for my father's grave in Sighthill...nobody visits cemeteries anymore, he said, plus Sighthill was a hangout out for vandals. It would be a waste of money to have a stone erected. I was thinking of a flat one, so that there would be no inclination by the neds to topple it over. The only monumental masons I know near Sighthill is Mossman, still on High Street, I suppose. I never heard back from them when I asked for estimates. You live and learn as I never heard of Egypt, Tollcross, and had to go ferreting around again: http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSE00941 Maisie -----Original Message----- From: Bravaal via Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 11:44 AM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] William Miller Hi Maisie, It is a memorial stone to William Miller that is the Glasgow Necropolis. He is actually buried in the Miller Family Plot in Egypt. That is Egypt, Tollcross, Glasgow in the Corbett St Cemetery but I believe the lair is unmarked. billy ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, I suppose we should be grateful for municipal and parish cemeteries in G.B., where records of the deceased have been maintained usually (but not always) in one way or another, especially on headstones. I have photos of two headstones of my father’s forebears who are buried in Auchencairn cemetery, Kirkcudbrightshire, with as many names as can fit on both quite large headstones. A family tree in itself. The odd thing is that the person who seemingly arranged for family names to be inscribed on the headstones is conspicuous by the absence of his own name. My memory did not fail me when I thought I remembered that I was told that families were buried on their own property in French Polynesia. http://www.travelingsolemates.com/bora-bora-behind-the-scenes/ Maisie

Necropolis – a memory. When Billy Bravaal, Lanark list administrator, forwarded the poem ‘Wee Willie Winkie’ to me by William Miller, born Dennistoun, Glasgow who died destitute at the age of 60 in 1872, I remembered that there was a headstone erected to him in Glasgow Necropolis cemetery, just a stone’s throw from the cathedral and Glasgow Royal Infirmary. The Necropolis (city of the dead!) was just a ‘wee walk’ away from where I was born...the tenements of that area now gone to make way for such as the University of Strathclyde and student housing, as well as pocket gardens. The ‘wee walk’ to the Necropolis was with some of the older neighbourhood children who warned me not to step on the flat headstones as that was unlucky. That’s all I remember except standing outside the ‘blue box’ at the junction of Cathedral Street and Stirling Road. The ‘blue box’ was used as a call box for policemen to ‘report in,’ now obsolete with modern electronic forms of communication. Somehow, somebody must have found me for a policeman to report finding a lost child. I have absolutely no recollection beyond standing outside the blue box, but my mother said she had to bail me out of the jail by paying a shilling for the sausage and tea I was fed! The docent at Glasgow Cathedral warned my American husband and me not to go wandering around the Necropolis as it was a hang-out for druggies and other undesirables. Not everyone buried in the Necropolis has a headstone, and my aim was to try to find the graves of my grandparents and other relatives buried there, and then to see if I were to find the flat headstones to jog my memory of how I became separated from my friends. We should maybe have taken one of the historical tours instead. What caught my eye reading the following link on the Necropolis is that prior to ‘paid-for’ municipal cemeteries, the burial of the dead was the responsibility of churches. St. Michael’s in Dumfries is an example where Robert Burns is buried. Oddly enough, unless my memory is failing me, when on a cruise to French Polynesia, I believe family dead were buried in the front garden! I think. Surely a bit of a problem for family genealogists or others as time would go on and property changed hands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Necropolis Maisie

Billy I would be most grateful if you could send on the photographs. Judy -----Original Message----- From: Bravaal via Sent: 22 April, 2016 10:15 PM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Firpark street Glasgow Hi, I was in Tollcross yesterday and saw the mail regarding Deerpark St now Tollcross Road. I took several photographs of that area in which Google Street view confirms as Deerpark St. It is a large red sandstone tenement block directly opposite the Park. Can send them on if interested billy list admin On 22 April 2016 at 10:22, Jack P Mills via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Judy, > Thankfully no, it would probably cost a wee fortune! > You just need to look at your Previous Searches. > > Sign into ScotlandsPeople > Click on the "Previous Searches" tab at very top of page > Find the required census > Click on its "View" box, then > Click on the "View(Paid)" box of your selected choice > The next page shows the link to download the census image > > Above this is a grey box with the words "View Free Header" > Click on this box > This gives the link to download the Header Image > ...[this one shows the front cover of the book] > At the top of this page is "View Page After (Free)" > Click on this box > This will give another Header Image page link > ...[this is the one that shows the description - click on it for details] > > It can also be downloaded in the same way as censuses images > i.e. Right click on link > Select "Save target as..." in the pop-up box > Which opens new page for you to rename if you wish > and save to wherever you want on your computer. > > Hope the enumerator's description is useful to you. > Jack > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > On 22/04/2016 00:09, Judy Wardlaw wrote: > > > > Jack > > I have thought about trying to find the Enumerator's Header pages but > > have had no luck trying to find them Scotlandspeople. > > Do I need to go back through all the pages from the specific census > > page? > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Me too, Thank you Billy, I was born in Uddingston so I would be interested.Take Care  Margaret From: Judy Wardlaw via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: Bravaal <billy.bravaal@gmail.com>; lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Firpark street Glasgow Billy I would be most grateful if you could send on the photographs. Judy -----Original Message----- From: Bravaal via Sent: 22 April, 2016 10:15 PM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Firpark street Glasgow Hi,     I was in Tollcross yesterday and saw the mail regarding Deerpark St now Tollcross Road. I took several photographs of that area in which Google Street view confirms as Deerpark St. It is a large red sandstone tenement block directly opposite the Park. Can send them on if interested billy list admin On 22 April 2016 at 10:22, Jack P Mills via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Judy, > Thankfully no, it would probably cost a wee fortune! > You just need to look at your Previous Searches. > > Sign into ScotlandsPeople > Click on the "Previous Searches" tab at very top of page > Find the required census > Click on its "View" box, then > Click on the "View(Paid)" box of your selected choice > The next page shows the link to download the census image > > Above this is a grey box with the words "View Free Header" > Click on this box > This gives the link to download the Header Image > ...[this one shows the front cover of the book] > At the top of this page is "View Page After (Free)" > Click on this box > This will give another Header Image page link > ...[this is the one that shows the description - click on it for details] > > It can also be downloaded in the same way as censuses images > i.e. Right click on link > Select "Save target as..." in the pop-up box > Which opens new page for you to rename if you wish > and save to wherever you want on your computer. > > Hope the enumerator's description is useful to you. > Jack > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > On 22/04/2016 00:09, Judy Wardlaw wrote: > > > > Jack > > I have thought about trying to find the Enumerator's Header pages but > > have had no luck trying to find them Scotlandspeople. > > Do I need to go back through all the pages from the specific census > > page? > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online:  http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many Many thanks, Jack I did not know that I could read the enumerators description of the census from Scotland's People. I have done it in the past from the LDS films. I do appreciate your instructions. With thanks Judy Jack P Mills wrote: Judy, Thankfully no, it would probably cost a wee fortune! You just need to look at your Previous Searches. Sign into ScotlandsPeople Click on the "Previous Searches" tab at very top of page Find the required census Click on its "View" box, then Click on the "View(Paid)" box of your selected choice The next page shows the link to download the census image Above this is a grey box with the words "View Free Header" Click on this box This gives the link to download the Header Image ...[this one shows the front cover of the book] At the top of this page is "View Page After (Free)" Click on this box This will give another Header Image page link ...[this is the one that shows the description - click on it for details] It can also be downloaded in the same way as censuses images i.e. Right click on link Select "Save target as..." in the pop-up box Which opens new page for you to rename if you wish and save to wherever you want on your computer. Hope the enumerator's description is useful to you. Jack ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On 22/04/2016 00:09, Judy Wardlaw wrote: > > Jack > I have thought about trying to find the Enumerator's Header pages but > have had no luck trying to find them Scotlandspeople. > Do I need to go back through all the pages from the specific census page? > Judy

Maisie the only place you and I will view the census is at FREECEN and Ancestry which are transcriptions; Ancestry being the least correct of the two! Once you have the Enumeration details of each census, it is so much easier to cross reference and download images from ScotlandsPeople. If we lived in LKS, yes, we could spend many hours at the Mitchell !! It is also why I download the Valuation Rolls, if families moved within the 10 yrs of each census you are able to locate them. Regards, Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Maisie Egger via Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 1:25 PM To: Jack P Mills ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hillcoat queries Yes, Jack, I think you hit the nail on the head with the suggestion that the place was Little Dovehill (Gallowgate?) as I seem to remember that I might have a census somewhere among my stuff where 'some' Hillcoat among my forebears lived there. Also, I think I saw some pictures online of some buildings in Little Dovehill, but too many computers have gone bye-byes for me to check. I now have an external free agent to save stuff. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi, I was in Tollcross yesterday and saw the mail regarding Deerpark St now Tollcross Road. I took several photographs of that area in which Google Street view confirms as Deerpark St. It is a large red sandstone tenement block directly opposite the Park. Can send them on if interested billy list admin On 22 April 2016 at 10:22, Jack P Mills via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Judy, > Thankfully no, it would probably cost a wee fortune! > You just need to look at your Previous Searches. > > Sign into ScotlandsPeople > Click on the "Previous Searches" tab at very top of page > Find the required census > Click on its "View" box, then > Click on the "View(Paid)" box of your selected choice > The next page shows the link to download the census image > > Above this is a grey box with the words "View Free Header" > Click on this box > This gives the link to download the Header Image > ...[this one shows the front cover of the book] > At the top of this page is "View Page After (Free)" > Click on this box > This will give another Header Image page link > ...[this is the one that shows the description - click on it for details] > > It can also be downloaded in the same way as censuses images > i.e. Right click on link > Select "Save target as..." in the pop-up box > Which opens new page for you to rename if you wish > and save to wherever you want on your computer. > > Hope the enumerator's description is useful to you. > Jack > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > On 22/04/2016 00:09, Judy Wardlaw wrote: > > > > Jack > > I have thought about trying to find the Enumerator's Header pages but > > have had no luck trying to find them Scotlandspeople. > > Do I need to go back through all the pages from the specific census page? > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Judy, Thankfully no, it would probably cost a wee fortune! You just need to look at your Previous Searches. Sign into ScotlandsPeople Click on the "Previous Searches" tab at very top of page Find the required census Click on its "View" box, then Click on the "View(Paid)" box of your selected choice The next page shows the link to download the census image Above this is a grey box with the words "View Free Header" Click on this box This gives the link to download the Header Image ...[this one shows the front cover of the book] At the top of this page is "View Page After (Free)" Click on this box This will give another Header Image page link ...[this is the one that shows the description - click on it for details] It can also be downloaded in the same way as censuses images i.e. Right click on link Select "Save target as..." in the pop-up box Which opens new page for you to rename if you wish and save to wherever you want on your computer. Hope the enumerator's description is useful to you. Jack ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On 22/04/2016 00:09, Judy Wardlaw wrote: > > Jack > I have thought about trying to find the Enumerator's Header pages but > have had no luck trying to find them Scotlandspeople. > Do I need to go back through all the pages from the specific census page? > Judy

Judy, Glad you now know it's Deerpark Gardens, later a part of Tollcross Road. Also a picture of it too. I'm thinking the name had a quite short official life span. Perhaps from around 1911 to 1919? But still known locally as Deerpark Gardens as it had the name on the building? I've noticed that quite a few times on older Glasgow tenements. Often painted on, but occasionally carved into the stonework. ---- There are two mentions in this very useful GWSFHS publication. "A Guide to Glasgow Addresses. Part II. 1826-1950" by Susan Miller. Deerpark Gardens, Tollcross. ...renamed Tollcross Rd. [part] - [Robertson St. to Brown St.] Deer Park Gardens, Parkhead. ...renamed Tollcross Rd. 266-350, later 616-700. ---- Some other mentions. Adhead's Street Directory of Greater Glasgow. c.1919? Deerpark Gardens - now Tollcross Rd. ---- V.P. Street Directory of Greater Glasgow. around early 1920s? Deer Park Gardens [now included in Tollcross Rd.] ---- Fraser's Glasgow Guide. Mid 1920s to mid 1930s? Deer Park Gardens, 266 Tollcross Rd. ---- I don't know where Robertson & Brown streets were located. Can't find them in the any of the indexes or maps. Those even numbers could suggest the south side of Tollcross Rd. Opposite Tollcross Park? If they did exist I wonder if they were actually side streets at all. Maybe they, with Deerpark Gardens in between them, were rows of a mainly continuous line of buildings on Tollcross Rd. Possibly constructed and named by different builders? But all this is just guesswork. The Enumerator's description [free header pages] on the 1911 census on ScotlandsPeople may help you narrow down the whereabouts of Deerpark Gardens on the later named Tollcross Rd. Jack --------------------------------------------------------------- On 21/04/2016 11:10, Judy Wardlaw wrote: > Yes Jack, it did. I would welcome any information you could give me. > In anticipation > Judy > ------------------ > From: Jack P Millst: 21 April, 2016 7:21 PM > > Judy, > > Could Dewpark Gardens be a difficult to read Deerpark Gardens? > Did the 1911 census number begin with 622-2 Enum. Dist 28. > If yes to both then I have a little info on the location of Deerpark > Gardens. > > Jack > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > On 20/04/2016 07:54, Judy Wardlaw via wrote: > >> In 1911 (Census) the family were living at 7 Dewpark Gardens, South >> Shettleston, Glasgow, which I cannot find on the map of Glasgow > >> Judy

Ella What wonderful old photos of the Tollcross area. This Lanark mailing list is wonderful. Thank you all Judy -----Original Message----- From: Ella K. Ross via Sent: 21 April, 2016 8:06 PM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com ; Campsie Maisie Egger Subject: [Lanark] I've found Deerpark Gardens Hi I was born in the Gallowgate and lived in Shettleston till I was 11. My Aunt lived in a posh house in Tollcross Rd opposite the junction of Mackinfauld Rd. We used to walk through Tollcross Park from Shettleston to visit frequently. The clue was Jack who thought it was Deerpark because there once were deer in Tollcross Park. There was a children's museum in the mansion house which had once belonged to Dunlop rubber. Anyhow here is a link toParkhead History which has photos of a Steam Road Roller parked in Mauckinfauld Road. Shows Rockdove & Deerpark Gardens http://parkheadhistory.com/?page_id=2296 Regards Ella Ross , Sydney ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Jack, I think you hit the nail on the head with the suggestion that the place was Little Dovehill (Gallowgate?) as I seem to remember that I might have a census somewhere among my stuff where 'some' Hillcoat among my forebears lived there. Also, I think I saw some pictures online of some buildings in Little Dovehill, but too many computers have gone bye-byes for me to check. I now have an external free agent to save stuff. I'm useless at research and have to have my friend in Nottingham scrounge around for me. It helps that I grew up in Glasgow, but that doesn't help in doing genealogy research. On this, are the Mitchel censuses available online? Incidentally, others on my mother's side lived in the Old Vennel, High Street, Duke Street, and in other places around old Glasgow. The rare one lived in a bungalow or so in Bearsden and Milngavie later on! Thank you, Jack, for your input. Maisie -----Original Message----- From: Jack P Mills via Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 2:22 AM To: LANARK- List Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hillcoat queries Maisie, Addresses on most censuses can often give an idea of the type of dwelling in a town. If there are, say, six or ten families at an address and the neighbouring numbers also show many households then the chances are they will be tenements. The Mitchell Library has all the Glasgow censuses on microfilm 1841 to 1901. So it's quite easy to scroll through the pages to see who was living on any street. Though saying that occasionally some pages can have very faint ink. Alas the 1911 will not be microfilmed for libraries etc. in the same way for public use. -- Could Little Downhill be a difficult to read Little Dovehill? That street has been around a long time - and the name at least still exists. It's now has trees and a car park. Here's a link to an NLS map of around 1778. http://maps.nls.uk/joins/2767.html Click on top right map quarter. Use mouse wheel to zoom in to Gallowgate Street at bottom left of map. Little Dovehill runs north from there to the Old Vennel. Jack -------------------------------------------------------------------- On 20/04/2016 22:17, Maisie Egger via wrote: > Queries and answers, please. > > I must assume that 42 Parliamentary Road, Townhead, Glasgow, was a > tenement building where my father’s great-grandfather James Hillcoat died. > Parliamentary Road no longer exists as formerly, but I am assuming that > #42 had to be near the Buchanan Street end. > > I cannot find on Google Little Downhill, Glasgow, where James Hillcosat > was born 17 April, 1791. There is an upscale Downhill, but putting two > and two together, James Hillcoat seems to have lived in more modest areas > of Glasgow. At one time he and his wife Helen Young (31 Oct 1795-20 Dec > 1867) lived at 62 Weaver St., Townhead, Glasgow, where Jenny Myers’ Keith > (also a potter) also lived. Both James Hillcoat and Keith also lived in > Rutherglen, where they worked in the pottery there. > > Two of James Hillcoat and Helen Young Hillcoat’s 11 children died at the > age of 68 and 61 respectively in Rutherglen, within a month of each other > long after James Hillcoat died (1857), so the assumption is that they, > too, likely were potters in Rutherglen. James Hillcoat (son) b. 23 Aug > 1825, Newton, Renfrewshire, d. 4 Dec. 1893 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire. > Thomas Young Hillcoat b. 1832 ?, s. 24 Nov. 1893 Rutherglen, unless I have > the years of their deaths mixed up. > > I can’t find the district of Newton, only the rather upscale Newton > Mearns, and so I wonder now if Newton goes by another name. > > Questions then: > 42 Parliamentary Rd. a tenement? > Where would Little Downhill be located? > James jr. and Thomas Young Hillcoat died the same year 1893? > Is/Was Newton a separate area from Newton Mearns? > > Maisie ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Spoken like a true Scot Ella! Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Ella K. Ross via Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 7:52 PM To: Archie Gilbert ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hillcoat queries Depends on how many you've had. Ella Ross born and bred in Glasgow. > On 21 Apr 2016, at 19:47, Archie Gilbert via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am no expert on Glasgow, Maisie, but I know of DOWANHILL area, which > early > everybody pronounces DOWNHILL missing the middle syllable. What do you > think > ? > > Archie Gilbert. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maisie Egger via > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Yes Jack, it did. I would welcome any information you could give me. In anticipation Judy -----Original Message----- From: Jack P Mills via Sent: 21 April, 2016 7:21 PM To: LANARK- List Subject: Re: [Lanark] Firpark street Glasgow Judy, Could Dewpark Gardens be a difficult to read Deerpark Gardens? Did the 1911 census number begin with 622-2 Enum. Dist 28. If yes to both then I have a little info on the location of Deerpark Gardens. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------- On 20/04/2016 07:54, Judy Wardlaw via wrote: > In 1911 (Census) the family were living at 7 Dewpark Gardens, South > Shettleston, Glasgow, which I cannot find on the map of Glasgow > Judy ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hate to pop your bubble, Ella, but I think the address should have been Little Dovehiil, so so much for my lot being refeened by living in Dowanhill, or even Downhill. The original Hillcoat in Newcastle had his own pottery business, and then his son hopped it over the border to Prestonpans or thereabouts and started up his own pottery business. 'Tons' of Hillcoats 'germinated' all over the globe to Australia, South Africa and here an there all over the U.K. The Hillcoat name died out with my father's forebear when she married a master journeyman potter who may have been fond of tipping the elbow as he died of excess spirits coma in Coatbridge at the age of 40, leaving 10 children behind. How on earth did they survive? I think I've made note of this before, but I live like a queen compared with them and even my Ma (but just ordinary compared to plain folks here where we live in California!) Maisie -----Original Message----- From: Ella K. Ross via Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 2:52 AM To: Archie Gilbert ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hillcoat queries Depends on how many you've had. Ella Ross born and bred in Glasgow. > On 21 Apr 2016, at 19:47, Archie Gilbert via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am no expert on Glasgow, Maisie, but I know of DOWANHILL area, which > early > everybody pronounces DOWNHILL missing the middle syllable. What do you > think > ? > > Archie Gilbert. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maisie Egger via > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 10:17 PM > To: LANARK@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Lanark] Hillcoat queries > > Queries and answers, please. > > I must assume that 42 Parliamentary Road, Townhead, Glasgow, was a > tenement > building where my father’s great-grandfather James Hillcoat died. > Parliamentary Road no longer exists as formerly, but I am assuming that > #42 > had to be near the Buchanan Street end. > > I cannot find on Google Little Downhill, Glasgow, where James Hillcosat > was > born 17 April, 1791. There is an upscale Downhill, but putting two and > two > together, James Hillcoat seems to have lived in more modest areas of > Glasgow. At one time he and his wife Helen Young (31 Oct 1795-20 Dec > 1867) > lived at 62 Weaver St., Townhead, Glasgow, where Jenny Myers’ Keith (also > a > potter) also lived. Both James Hillcoat and Keith also lived in > Rutherglen, > where they worked in the pottery there. > > Two of James Hillcoat and Helen Young Hillcoat’s 11 children died at the > age > of 68 and 61 respectively in Rutherglen, within a month of each other long > after James Hillcoat died (1857), so the assumption is that they, too, > likely were potters in Rutherglen. James Hillcoat (son) b. 23 Aug 1825, > Newton, Renfrewshire, d. 4 Dec. 1893 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire. Thomas > Young > Hillcoat b. 1832 ?, s. 24 Nov. 1893 Rutherglen, unless I have the years of > their deaths mixed up. > > I can’t find the district of Newton, only the rather upscale Newton > Mearns, > and so I wonder now if Newton goes by another name. > > Questions then: > 42 Parliamentary Rd. a tenement? > Where would Little Downhill be located? > James jr. and Thomas Young Hillcoat died the same year 1893? > Is/Was Newton a separate area from Newton Mearns? > > Maisie > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. > Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the > following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I was born in the Gallowgate and lived in Shettleston till I was 11. My Aunt lived in a posh house in Tollcross Rd opposite the junction of Mackinfauld Rd. We used to walk through Tollcross Park from Shettleston to visit frequently. The clue was Jack who thought it was Deerpark because there once were deer in Tollcross Park. There was a children's museum in the mansion house which had once belonged to Dunlop rubber. Anyhow here is a link toParkhead History which has photos of a Steam Road Roller parked in Mauckinfauld Road. Shows Rockdove & Deerpark Gardens http://parkheadhistory.com/?page_id=2296 Regards Ella Ross , Sydney