What is gros with he numbers after it? Sent from my iPad On May 5, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Jo Ann Croft via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > James died in 1861 in Cambusnethan, Lanark GROS 628/00 0198 > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:35 PM, <lafinken@aol.com> wrote: > >> I have tried finding the parents on Scotland's people with no luck. I >> know the grandparents, I am trying to find >> descendants of this Hamilton family. >> >> Lindsey > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James died in 1861 in Cambusnethan, Lanark GROS 628/00 0198 On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:35 PM, <lafinken@aol.com> wrote: > I have tried finding the parents on Scotland's people with no luck. I > know the grandparents, I am trying to find > descendants of this Hamilton family. > > Lindsey > > > > >

Wait I take that back it would be his aunt Mary Anne Moffatt sister to his mother Elizabeth Hamilton. Sorry.

I have tried finding the parents on Scotland's people with no luck. I know the grandparents, I am trying to find descendants of this Hamilton family. Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Jo Ann Croft via <lanark@rootsweb.com> To: lanark <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, May 5, 2016 6:58 pm Subject: Re: [Lanark] Hamilton (I should get paid for advertising.) Again, http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk will allow you to view each child's birth record and the parent's death records. As that all happened after 1854 (the start of government registration of BMDs) you will be able to get grandparents' names on the death records. Jo-Ann Croft On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 6:51 PM, lafinken via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am trying to trace Hamilton's born in Lanarkshire. The parents died in > 1861 and 1871 time frame. There is one more child called John Hamilton > born abt 1863, yes after the passing of this father but has the same name. > > ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

(I should get paid for advertising.) Again, http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk will allow you to view each child's birth record and the parent's death records. As that all happened after 1854 (the start of government registration of BMDs) you will be able to get grandparents' names on the death records. Jo-Ann Croft On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 6:51 PM, lafinken via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am trying to trace Hamilton's born in Lanarkshire. The parents died in > 1861 and 1871 time frame. There is one more child called John Hamilton > born abt 1863, yes after the passing of this father but has the same name. > >

It will never be on ancestry.com or any site except http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk That is the Scottish government's website for all online available birth, death, marriage, census records. It is pay to view/download but very reasonable with great images. Jo-Ann Croft On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 6:29 PM, lafinken via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > So the 1911 census census of Scotland is not on ancestry.com yet? Is > there a release date coming soon by any chance? > >

I am trying to trace Hamilton's born in Lanarkshire. The parents died in 1861 and 1871 time frame. There is one more child called John Hamilton born abt 1863, yes after the passing of this father but has the same name. The other names to track for relationships and where the children lived; MACKEY, MOFFAT, BROWN, RENWICK, and of course his mother's maiden name LINDSAY children of James Hamilton and Elizabeth Lindsay Hamilton 1861 Census of Lanarkshire Name: Elizabeth Hamilton Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Hamilton Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Registration number: 628 Registration district: Cambusnethan Civil parish: Cambusnethan County: Lanarkshire Address: Morningside Village ED: 15 Household schedule number: 61 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1861_93 Household Members: Name Age James Hamilton 45 Elizabeth Hamilton 39 Joseph Hamilton 7 1853 Robert Hamilton 5 1855 James Hamilton 3 1857 William Hamilton 5 Mo 1860 Unfortunately, we are unable to display the accompanying images of this census at present, despite extensive negotiation with the General Register Office for Scotland. Permission from them has not, as yet, been forthcoming. For this reason, and to enable you to continue with your family history research, Ancestry has heavily transcribed the Scottish Census records to ensure you have access to all key areas of information contained within this collection. up arrow Source Citation: Parish: Cambusnethan; ED: 15; Page: 13; Line: 13; Roll: CSSCT1861_93. Source Information:

So the 1911 census census of Scotland is not on ancestry.com yet? Is there a release date coming soon by any chance? Thanks

Does anyone claim the following family: Name: Maryanne Lindsay Age: 2 Mo Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Father's name: John Lindsay Mother's name: Agness Lindsay Gender: Female Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 647 Registration district: Hamilton Civil Parish: Hamilton County: Lanarkshire Address: No 7 Front Row ED: 23 Household schedule number: 138 LINE: 5 Roll: CSSCT1891_310 Household Members: Name Age John Lindsay 32 Agness Lindsay 30 Andrew Lindsay 10 Robert Lindsay 8 Kutharing Lindsay 5 John Lindsay 3 Agness Lindsay 2 Maryanne Lindsay 2 Mo William Raleston 18

Number 142 St. Vincent Street is the building you describe as "more prosaic" 142A and 144 are the building next door there are two entrances 142A and 144 - it would appear that the building was split into different units with different access points and numbered as 142A and 144

Thanks for clearing this up. Unless the brain is atrophying, I could have sworn that I worked at #144 St. Vincent St., but with your information it was indeed 142 as the numbers would be lower heading toward George Square, Number 142 was near the corner of Hope Street, then the next street up would be West George Street. My first wee lassie office job was at 124 St. Vincent Street, between Renfield Street and Hope Street. (I sincerely hope that all of those substantial buildings, mostly red sandstone, of fine architecture, are still standing. Too much of Glasgow has disappeared in the name of progress.) I worked for James Waldie & Sons, Coal Merchants at #142, which was then taken over by Bruce Lindsay Brothers Ltd., Edinburgh, in the latter 1950s. I gather that all the staff that had worked for Waldie's for many years were let go, and at their ages it must have been traumatic, my 'boss' suffering a stroke attributable perhaps to the stress of being made unemployed at her age. One of the perks of being an office girl was that all correspondence of businesses within a certain perimeter of the city core was hand delivered by 'entry level' office staff. Shades of Charles Dickens as one would see many young office workers scurrying around in all sorts of weather hand-delivering mail. One wonders now if the electronic age has taken care of that form of 'Pony Express!' A memory that has stuck in my mind forever is that the solicitor for whom I worked at 124 St. Vincent Street belonged to a club 'up' in Blythswood Square. This 'considerate' gentleman phoned this silly wee lassie to bring his raincoat 'up' to him as it was pouring buckets. Fourteen-year-old silly me didn't think to use the raincoat to cover myself and by the time I trekked all the way 'up' to Blythswood Square I was soaking wet! The one distraction was that the club was in the next building from where the notorious Madeleine Smith lived, and each time I'd pass the house my imagination would work overtime: was she or was she not guilty of the murder of her lover? A guilty of 'not proven' under Scots Law was declared. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Smith This notorious murder was even talked about when I was growing up. I hope that the City of Glasgow has put a plaque on the building indicating its historical significance, albeit a murder. Maisie -----Original Message----- From: rjpaton via Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 8:17 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] LANARK Digest, Vol 11, Issue 59 - Re Hatrack building Number 142 St. Vincent Street is the building you describe as "more prosaic" 142A and 144 are the building next door there are two entrances 142A and 144 - it would appear that the building was split into different units with different access points and numbered as 142A and 144

I worked in an office at 144 St. Vincent Street, Glasgow; however, the iconic ‘hatrack’ listed building is advertised at 144 St. Vincent Street. Other advertisting has it at 142a-144 St. Vincent Street. They are two separate, though conjoined, buildings entirely. The ‘hatrack’ is so named because of its unique architectural features resembling a hatrack at the top of the building. By contrast, 144 St. Vincent Street was more prosaic, shall we say, though a very substantial looking red sandstone building, the likes of which once gave Glasgow the reputation for being the finest Victorian city in G.B. Question: Is there a reason that two different buildings of architectural design adjoining each other should have a misleading number system now? There was no confusion when I was a wee office lassie in a solicitor’s office in the 1940s. I was the proverbial go-fer and delivered letters all over the centre of town and beyond, even up to Park Circus where genealogy offices were located (now at the Mitchell Library, I believe). Maisie

Voluntary Aid Detachments (VADs) County branches of the Red Cross had their own groups of volunteers called Voluntary Aid Detachments (often abbreviated to VAD). Voluntary Aid Detachment members themselves came to be known simply as ‘VADs’. Made up of men and women, the VADs carried out a range of voluntary positions including nursing, transport duties, and the organisation of rest stations, working parties and auxiliary hospitals. ============ It has been announced the database is now complete <http://www.redcross.org.uk/About-us/Who-we-are/History-and-origin/First-World-War/Volunteers-during-WW1> I have a known VAD nurse who sadly died just at the start of the war, she does not appear in the database but to my surprise I found several others, male and female who I was not expecting to find So well worth a check to see if any of yours are listed there It can be searched by forename, surname, location or hospital name or role/duty OR any of the above I found several by using a location and scrolling through the results A very useful database indeed NB plenty of hits for keywords, Scotland, Lanarkshire, Glasgow etc -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi all On ebay there are two samplers by Isabella DONALD one dated 1848 eBay item number: 381617307423 eBay item number: 381617300888 I have absolutely no connection with the seller Father James DONALD mother Margaret ALSTON The following looks like the family from 1841 to 1861 Name: Isabella Donald Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Gender: Female Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Lesmahagow County: Lanarkshire Address: Waterside Parish Number: 649 Household Members: Name Age James Donald 40 Margaret Donald 30 William Donald 11 Isabella Donald 8 Catherine Morrison 15 Parish: Lesmahagow; ED: 7; Page: 8; Line: 510; Year: 1841 ==== Name: James Donald Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relationship: Son Father: James Donald Mother: Margaret Donald Gender: Male Where born: Lesmahagow, Lanark Parish Number: 649 Civil Parish: Lesmahagow Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Lanarkshire Address: Water Side Occupation: Scholar ED: 17 Page: 7 Household schedule number: 24 LINE: 6 Roll: CSSCT1851_169 Household Members: Name Age James Donald 52 Margaret Donald 45 William Donald 20 Esebelia Donald 17 John Donald 9 James Donald 7 Parish: Lesmahagow; ED: 17; Page: 7; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1851_169; Year: 1851 === Name: James Donald Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relationship: Son Father's name: James Donald Mother's name: Margaret Donald Gender: Male Where born: Lesmahagow, Lanark Registration Number: 649 Registration district: Lesmahagow Civil Parish: Lesmahagow County: Lanarkshire Address: Waterside Occupation: Farmer's Son ED: 8 Household schedule number: 12 LINE: 4 Roll: CSSCT1861_116 Household Members: Name Age James Donald 62 Margaret Donald 54 William Donald 31 James Donald 17 Parish: Lesmahagow; ED: 8; Page: 4; Line: 4; Roll: CSSCT1861_116 -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

In the nineteenth century it was not uncommon for lairs to be owned by undertakers, and those being buried were only provided with one space. This happened at Glasgow Cathedral burial ground. I suppose the prestige gained by being buried at the cathedral exceeded the disadvantage of being under a blank stone, laid horizontally over the lair. As Nivard says, there could be several reasons for there not being a memorial.The lair records should give more information. Iain McKenzie On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Nivard Ovington via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Ruth > > I assume you have attached an image to your post? > > If so rootsweb lists do not accept attachments, so you would need to > post it somewhere and send a link to it in another post > > However, there might be many reasons for no surviving stone, there may > have been one and it was damaged, so was removed, there is much of this > happening all over due to health and safety and the fear of litigation > > Or they didn't want one, or they wanted one but it was never enacted by > the person charged with doing it, or the money ran out before it was > ordered/paid for/erected > > And no doubt several other reasons > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 29/04/2016 19:15, ruth.enns via wrote: > > Pray tell me: > > > > WHY would a person have such a GRAND FUNERAL & no stone in Sight hill > > Cemetery researched out by me at Mitchell Library & I wend there > > personally to view GRASS only! > > > > Ruth Enns > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ruth I assume you have attached an image to your post? If so rootsweb lists do not accept attachments, so you would need to post it somewhere and send a link to it in another post However, there might be many reasons for no surviving stone, there may have been one and it was damaged, so was removed, there is much of this happening all over due to health and safety and the fear of litigation Or they didn't want one, or they wanted one but it was never enacted by the person charged with doing it, or the money ran out before it was ordered/paid for/erected And no doubt several other reasons Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/04/2016 19:15, ruth.enns via wrote: > Pray tell me: > > WHY would a person have such a GRAND FUNERAL & no stone in Sight hill > Cemetery researched out by me at Mitchell Library & I wend there > personally to view GRASS only! > > Ruth Enns

I had records from the Glasgow University Archives: Wylie & Lochheed & Location: Sighthill mft All details given. Worker prodded the ground for me. Lair details expensive to order..... Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Iain McKenzie via Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 6:44 AM To: Nivard Ovington ; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Emailing: IMG_20160429_0002 In the nineteenth century it was not uncommon for lairs to be owned by undertakers, and those being buried were only provided with one space. This happened at Glasgow Cathedral burial ground. I suppose the prestige gained by being buried at the cathedral exceeded the disadvantage of being under a blank stone, laid horizontally over the lair. As Nivard says, there could be several reasons for there not being a memorial.The lair records should give more information. Iain McKenzie On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Nivard Ovington via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Ruth > > I assume you have attached an image to your post? > > If so rootsweb lists do not accept attachments, so you would need to > post it somewhere and send a link to it in another post > > However, there might be many reasons for no surviving stone, there may > have been one and it was damaged, so was removed, there is much of this > happening all over due to health and safety and the fear of litigation > > Or they didn't want one, or they wanted one but it was never enacted by > the person charged with doing it, or the money ran out before it was > ordered/paid for/erected > > And no doubt several other reasons > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 29/04/2016 19:15, ruth.enns via wrote: > > Pray tell me: > > > > WHY would a person have such a GRAND FUNERAL & no stone in Sight hill > > Cemetery researched out by me at Mitchell Library & I wend there > > personally to view GRASS only! > > > > Ruth Enns > > ------------------------------- > > WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. > > You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on > the following link to the list information page online: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I did, got the information from Glasgow University Archives, numbers & all. The worker stabbed the ground all around with his pitch fork but nothing.. Thanks for responding.....it is an old Cemetery across from COSTCO, in the modern world! Maisie challenged me on the word GRAND, she did not think so. So we had a little "back & forth". . Such fun"! -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:50 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Emailing: IMG_20160429_0002 Hi Ruth I assume you have attached an image to your post? If so rootsweb lists do not accept attachments, so you would need to post it somewhere and send a link to it in another post However, there might be many reasons for no surviving stone, there may have been one and it was damaged, so was removed, there is much of this happening all over due to health and safety and the fear of litigation Or they didn't want one, or they wanted one but it was never enacted by the person charged with doing it, or the money ran out before it was ordered/paid for/erected And no doubt several other reasons Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/04/2016 19:15, ruth.enns via wrote: > Pray tell me: > > WHY would a person have such a GRAND FUNERAL & no stone in Sight hill > Cemetery researched out by me at Mitchell Library & I wend there > personally to view GRASS only! > > Ruth Enns ------------------------------- WHEN REPLYING to a post please remember to snip most of the earlier message. Be sure the reply to address shows as LANARK@Rootsweb.com. You may contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com or click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a similar situation regarding Sighthill Cemetery. My ggggf Hugh Stirrat died in 1856. Twenty months before his death, he purchased a family plot at Sighthill for "Hugh Stirrat & Family" for comp 10, class D, graves 102 & 103. I have the original certificate. He appears to have been moderately wealthy (a Burgess & Guild Brother as a Wright, at death "Wright and Builder", had been founder of a carriage building business on Renfield Street and owner of a furniture factory in Anniesland). I assumed he and wife (Janet Baird) were buried there. She died between 1851 and 1856. I have found no death record for her, and no burial record for either of them. In 1996 I visited Sighthill and they provided me with a map of the plot and placed a small orange pylon on it before my visit. They had no record of any burial in that plot, nor of any headstone. At my visit there was no headstone on the plot, nor any family names nearby (but a grand view from the top of a hill). The family must have known of the plot. They kept the certificate and sales receipt and passed them down through 4 generations until I found them 50 years ago in my grandmother's papers. Why no records of burial? Why no stone? Is there actually anyone buried there? If not, where are they? Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Iain McKenzie via Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 6:44 AM To: Nivard Ovington; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Emailing: IMG_20160429_0002 In the nineteenth century it was not uncommon for lairs to be owned by undertakers, and those being buried were only provided with one space. This happened at Glasgow Cathedral burial ground. I suppose the prestige gained by being buried at the cathedral exceeded the disadvantage of being under a blank stone, laid horizontally over the lair. As Nivard says, there could be several reasons for there not being a memorial.The lair records should give more information. Iain McKenzie On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Nivard Ovington via <lanark@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Ruth > > I assume you have attached an image to your post? > > If so rootsweb lists do not accept attachments, so you would need to > post it somewhere and send a link to it in another post > > However, there might be many reasons for no surviving stone, there may > have been one and it was damaged, so was removed, there is much of this > happening all over due to health and safety and the fear of litigation > > Or they didn't want one, or they wanted one but it was never enacted by > the person charged with doing it, or the money ran out before it was > ordered/paid for/erected > > And no doubt several other reasons > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 29/04/2016 19:15, ruth.enns via wrote: > > Pray tell me: > > > > WHY would a person have such a GRAND FUNERAL & no stone in Sight hill > > Cemetery researched out by me at Mitchell Library & I wend there > > personally to view GRASS only! > > > > Ruth Enns > > -------------------------------

Pray tell me: WHY would a person have such a GRAND FUNERAL & no stone in Sight hill Cemetery researched out by me at Mitchell Library & I wend there personally to view GRASS only! Ruth Enns Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: IMG_20160429_0002 Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.