Hi ... I wonder if he was involved in the Carluke trip to NZ - about 1863 - in the 'Aboukir' - following the NZ goldrush ? Large numbers of 'younger folk' some related, some not left here with the Brownlee sawmillers trip to the Pelorus Sound ... I note that he was part of the Kirkton ( Carluke UP Church, Station Road, Carluke ) and perhaps his wife's 'Forrest' families were those of Robert Forrest, Grain Miller at the Low Mill and, with the Brownlees, one of the founders of that Church and main participant in the Pelorus expeditions. Some of the younger Forrest sons went out to the goldrush ( prior to the Aboukir trip ), and it was their enthusiasm for the quality of NZ timber etc that started the later Carluke emigrations. Some of the Forrests returned to Scotland, some stayed. The Low Mill families were later farmers and now run the Forrest Estate wineries near Marlborough, NZ. As I recall, it was one of the Youngs ( ? Owen ? ) who was involved in erecting a memorial to the Carluke emigrants in that expedition at Carluke, NZ -or was it at the Blackball Sawmill site at Havelock ? One of the Brownlees married a lady from the farm ( ? Hill of ) Kilncadzow ( pronounced Kil-kay-gee here ) whose family were also lime quarriers up there. Maybe some exploration of the cemetery records for Havelock and the Rai Valley histories ( see Havelock Museum ) may help. You may also want to check Claire Smith's work at the Brownlee Family site on :- www.brownlee.com.au If you would want a pic and the history of Kirkton Church, Carluke,( founded 1835 ?) let me know - we're still an active and lively congregation .... ! BTW : Just remembered - is there not a house , named 'Havelock' in Douglas Street, Carluke (here) that once belonged to the Youngs or the Martins ??? ( needs more research ). G Russell Carluke, South Lanarkshire. Researching Brownlee(ie) ; Dick; Forrest; Grain and Sawmillers / Millwrights and Engineers 1795 - 1935.

David YOUNG b 1817 LKS. Married 1839 Mary FORREST. He was the son of Robert YOUNG and Catherine BROWN. David and Mary had 5 children - Robert, Agnes, Andrew, Catherine, David. Census 1851 - he was a stockman at Kilncadzow Lime Works Census 1861 to 1881-inclusive he completely disappears although the rest of the family are present and his wife is listed as 'married' Census 1891 - Mary finally calls herself a widow. We cannot find where, when, or how David died or the nature of his disappearance. Help on this one would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Masie Nice to see you back miss your stories lets hope they dont get blocked again Happy New year Regards Jean in Aussie On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Maisie Egger <campsiehills@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > HE let this go through and a few others, but I wonder why no Christmas > greetings from anyone. > > Maybe he's recovered from male menopause!---or---maybe he's of another > religious persuasion, or none, that doesn't believe in Christmas. > > Maisie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> > To: <LANARK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:31 PM > Subject: [Lanark] To ALL > > > > Happy Hogmanay, 2010, to those of Scottish descent & those that wish they > > were! > > > >>From rainy Vancouver, B.C. CANADA > > > > Ruth > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the > earlier > > message before you post any reply > > > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get > information > > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following > link > > to the list information page online: > > > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jean NAMES I AM SEARCHING MCSHANE WELSH VANCE LYNCH ONEIL CHRISTIE RAFFERTY,MCCONNELL TACKNEY BROGAN MCHALE THORNTON COYLE MULHEARN MCGURK AND HALF OF SCOTLAND LOL

I'll second that.... Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: <kgil@comcast.net> To: "Maisie Egger" <campsiehills@sbcglobal.net>; <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] To ALL > > > Maisie!! > > > > Soooo good to see you post!! > > Please continue!! > > > > best wishes > > > > kirk m gilmore > > > > north salt lake, utah > > > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Maisie Egger" <campsiehills@sbcglobal.net> > To: lanark@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:28:15 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [Lanark] To ALL > > HE let this go through and a few others, but I wonder why no Christmas > greetings from anyone. > > Maybe he's recovered from male menopause!---or---maybe he's of another > religious persuasion, or none, that doesn't believe in Christmas. > > Maisie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> > To: <LANARK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:31 PM > Subject: [Lanark] To ALL > > >> Happy Hogmanay, 2010, to those of Scottish descent & those that wish they >> were! >> >>>From rainy Vancouver, B.C. CANADA >> >> Ruth >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST >> >> >> LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history >> information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. >> >> WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the >> earlier >> message before you post any reply >> >> LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at >> lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get >> information >> on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to >> help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following >> link >> to the list information page online: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I may have passed the following data along to you a couple of years back, in-case it wasn't here we go again. No info on deaths etc. Happy New Year Bob Cdn --------------------------------- YOUNG, David Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 4 Sep 1817 Christening Date: 17 Sep 1817 Recorded in: Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Robert YOUNG Mother: Cathrine BROWN Source: FHL Film 1042969 Dates: 1694 - 1855 YOUNG, John Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 16 Sep 1822 Christening Date: 3 Oct 1822 Recorded in: Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: Robert YOUNG Mother: Cathrine BROUN Source: FHL Film 1042969 Dates: 1694 - 1855 ------------------------------ YOUNG Robert Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 1839 Birthplace: Kirkton United Presbyterian Carluke Lanark Scotland Recorded in: Carluke Lanarkshire Scotland Collection: Kirkton; United Presbyterian Father: David YOUNG Mother: Mary FORREST Source: FHL Film 889484 Dates: 1832 - 1869 YOUNG Agnes Forrest Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 Nov 1841 Christening Date: 21 Dec 1841 Recorded in: Carluke Lanarkshire Scotland Collection: Kirkton; United Presbyterian Father: David YOUNG Mother: Mary FORREST Source: FHL Film 889484 Dates: 1832 - 1869 YOUNG Andrew Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 9 May 1846 Birthplace: Kirkton United Presbyterian Carluke Lanark Scotland Recorded in: Carluke Lanarkshire Scotland Collection: Kirkton; United Presbyterian Father: David YOUNG Mother: Mary FORREST Source: FHL Film 889484 Dates: 1832 - 1869 YOUNG Cathrine Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 28 Nov 1848 Christening Date: 31 Dec 1848 Recorded in: Carluke Lanarkshire Scotland Collection: Kirkton; United Presbyterian Father: David YOUNG Mother: Mary FORREST Source: FHL Film 889484 Dates: 1832 - 1869 YOUNG David Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 23 Aug 1853 Birthplace: Kirkton United Presbyterian Carluke Lanark Scotland Recorded in: Carluke Lanarkshire Scotland Collection: Kirkton; United Presbyterian Father: David YOUNG Mother: Mary FORREST Source: FHL Film 889484 Dates: 1832 - 1869 ================ On 01/01/2010 1:45 AM, gemwood@xtra.co.nz wrote: <SNIP> > ...David YOUNG b 1817 LKS. Married 1839 Mary FORREST. He was the son of Robert YOUNG and Catherine BROWN. David and Mary had 5 children - Robert, Agnes, Andrew, Catherine, David. > Census 1851 - he was a stockman at Kilncadzow Lime Works > Census 1861 to 1881-inclusive he completely disappears although the rest of the family are present and his wife is listed as 'married' > Census 1891 - Mary finally calls herself a widow. > We cannot find where, when, or how David died or the nature of his disappearance. > Help on this one would be greatly appreciated.... > =============

Maisie!! Soooo good to see you post!! Please continue!! best wishes kirk m gilmore north salt lake, utah ---- Original Message ----- From: "Maisie Egger" <campsiehills@sbcglobal.net> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:28:15 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [Lanark] To ALL HE let this go through and a few others, but I wonder why no Christmas greetings from anyone. Maybe he's recovered from male menopause!---or---maybe he's of another religious persuasion, or none, that doesn't believe in Christmas. Maisie ----- Original Message ----- From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> To: <LANARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: [Lanark] To ALL > Happy Hogmanay, 2010, to those of Scottish descent & those that wish they > were! > >>From rainy Vancouver, B.C. CANADA > > Ruth > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC:  The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE:  Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message    ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC:  The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE:  Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mid-age crisis? Happy New Year! Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maisie Egger" <campsiehills@sbcglobal.net> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] To ALL > HE let this go through and a few others, but I wonder why no Christmas > greetings from anyone. > > Maybe he's recovered from male menopause!---or---maybe he's of another > religious persuasion, or none, that doesn't believe in Christmas. > > Maisie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> > To: <LANARK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:31 PM > Subject: [Lanark] To ALL > > >> Happy Hogmanay, 2010, to those of Scottish descent & those that wish they >> were! >> >>>From rainy Vancouver, B.C. CANADA >> >> Ruth >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST >> >> >> LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history >> information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. >> >> WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the >> earlier >> message before you post any reply >> >> LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at >> lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get >> information >> on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to >> help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following >> link >> to the list information page online: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

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HE let this go through and a few others, but I wonder why no Christmas greetings from anyone. Maybe he's recovered from male menopause!---or---maybe he's of another religious persuasion, or none, that doesn't believe in Christmas. Maisie ----- Original Message ----- From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> To: <LANARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: [Lanark] To ALL > Happy Hogmanay, 2010, to those of Scottish descent & those that wish they > were! > >>From rainy Vancouver, B.C. CANADA > > Ruth > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Happy Hogmanay, 2010, to those of Scottish descent & those that wish they were! >From rainy Vancouver, B.C. CANADA Ruth

Hello Jeannette, Family traditions will differ, but will to some extent reflect local society. In my youth and for some years beyond, Christmas was a normal working day. Come New Years Eve, work went on until quite late. At home, members of the family would arrive from afar to make the occasion a family reunion. Up to midnight we would have a spring clean of the house, so that we started the New Year perfectly. The first drink would be at midnight. Father would go to the front door and open it to let the New Year in. He would go outside, look at the moon and turn over the coins in his pocket thinking of a prosperous New Year. You wished other people "A Good New Year" hoping that they would have good health, wealth, and happiness in the next 12 months. The modern tendency is to suggest that they have a good New Year party. After that we would visit the neighbours and they would visit us. Then the grandparents would stay in the house to look after the children and we would head off to visit friends at the other end of town, walking, of course. There the party would go on until six or later. Then we would walk home. The New Year's Day turkey would be put in the oven, and we would go to bed. For my first New Year away from home, as the youngest aboard a Royal Navy ship, I struck sixteen on the ship's bell, instead of the usual eight to mark the end of the First Watch, 8pm to midnight. A Guid New Year to yin and a'. Jim -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J T Walton Sent: 30 December 2009 21:16 To: LANARK Subject: [Lanark] Holiday traditions Hi listers, I'm just getting ready for the New Year and thinking about holiday celebrations, past and present. Anyone care to share what is or was the tradition in Scotland? I hope this is not considered Off Topic. Best regards, Jeannette in Sunny, warm Florida ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just want to wish everyone on this list a Happy New Year and a successful genealogical year. Jeannette

Hi listers, I'm just getting ready for the New Year and thinking about holiday celebrations, past and present. Anyone care to share what is or was the tradition in Scotland? I hope this is not considered Off Topic. Best regards, Jeannette in Sunny, warm Florida

Hi Ignore that immigration as that David was irish and married - sorry for the red herring. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gemwood@xtra.co.nz> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:45 AM Subject: [Lanark] YOUNG David - born 1817 LKS > David YOUNG b 1817 LKS. Married 1839 Mary FORREST. He was the son of > Robert YOUNG and Catherine BROWN. David and Mary had 5 children - Robert, > Agnes, Andrew, Catherine, David. > > Census 1851 - he was a stockman at Kilncadzow Lime Works > Census 1861 to 1881-inclusive he completely disappears although the rest > of the family are present and his wife is listed as 'married' > Census 1891 - Mary finally calls herself a widow. > > We cannot find where, when, or how David died or the nature of his > disappearance. > > Help on this one would be greatly appreciated. > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I do think you have a real mystery here. I have done some digging (just as you have) and noticed that he is stated as alive (or not deceased) when his children marry. Options: They separated and therefore she still classified herself as 'married' but how did she manage financially without a man's wage and young children. He was in an asylum He immigrated and she was supposed to go and then decided not to - maybe he sent money home and that is how she managed to buy 10acres of land There is this immigration: David Young Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Age: 41 Arrival Date: 25 Jan 1857 Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia Departure Port: Plymouth Ship: William Nationality: Irish and Scottish Maybe an Australian lister could help more, Good luck Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: <gemwood@xtra.co.nz> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:45 AM Subject: [Lanark] YOUNG David - born 1817 LKS > David YOUNG b 1817 LKS. Married 1839 Mary FORREST. He was the son of > Robert YOUNG and Catherine BROWN. David and Mary had 5 children - Robert, > Agnes, Andrew, Catherine, David. > > Census 1851 - he was a stockman at Kilncadzow Lime Works > Census 1861 to 1881-inclusive he completely disappears although the rest > of the family are present and his wife is listed as 'married' > Census 1891 - Mary finally calls herself a widow. > > We cannot find where, when, or how David died or the nature of his > disappearance. > > Help on this one would be greatly appreciated. > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Email me off line and I will send copies to anyone interested. Thanks Margaret Ontario   Marriages 1890 @ Airdrie Hugh Anderson son of Robert Anderson and Jeanie Galt Jeanie Barrie daughter of Alexander Barrie and Jane  Brash (previously Miles) 1926 @ Hamilton Robert Hugh Cameron son John Cameron and Margaret Grant Marion Russel Bennie daughter of Peter Bennie and Ann Johnstone Campbell 1906 @ Glasgow Andrew Clark Son of James Clark and Mary Blair Elizabeth Birrell daughter of John Birrell and Mary Bain 1886 Kilsyth Henry Rankin Son of Peter Rankin Grace Rankin MS Rankin? Elizabeth Cochrane Daughter of Robert Cochrane and Jessie Simpson 1891 Kilsyth William Laing son of Alexander Laing and Elizabeth Bryden Jane Brough daughter of Peter Brough and Jane Galloway Kilbirnie 1897 Vincent Barcaus son of Martin Barcaus and Agota Petrokaitute Orchy Klymacicrite daughter of Nat........Klymacicute and Barbora Yenolaitute (very hard to read will send copy if it looks familiar to any one)

If these are of interest to anyone email me off line and I will send copies.. Take Care Margaret Ontario Marriages 1914 Hamilton Michael McGowan son of John McGowan and Elizabeth Stewart Maggie Dougan daughter of James Dougan and Catherine Murray 1920 Uddingston ..................McDonald Jack son of John Jack and Mary McDonald Margaret  Hill daughter of Francis Hill and Margaret Gault

Thank you Charles. I had found in digging my notes that Thomas was indeed Elizabeth's brother. But I have never seen this information before. Thank you for sending it. Robert MacKay and Sarah Jane or Jeanne Lindsay MacKay are the parents of Thomas and Elizabeth MacKay. There are in deed from Ireland, perhaps being born in Naghill, County Monahan area of Ireland. Prior to coming to Cambusnethan I think about the 1847-1850 time frame. As the family is there for the 1851 census. So I changed up the Subject line a little to include the additional surnames which now seem to connect to my Elizabeth MacKay Brown and her brother Thomas MacKay whom married Mary Smith whose mother was a Ballantyne. Lindsey from USA -----Original Message----- From: C M Houston <chouston@f2s.com> To: lafinken@aol.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 1:48 pm Subject: Re: [Lanark] Brown Cambusnethan I am not related - but it looks like Thomas Mackie was the brother of Elizabeth Mackay. His first son being a Robert and he was also born in Ireland. See bottom of tree below. Regards Charles ------------- Descendants of Adam BALLANTYNE Generation No. 1 1. Adam1 BALLANTYNE was born Abt. 1787 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland?. He married Janet (Goldie) GOLD. She was born Abt. 1791 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland?. Children of Adam BALLANTYNE and Janet GOLD are: + 2 i. Elizabeth (or Bannatyne)2 BALLANTYNE, born 1812 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland Re 1851 Census; died Abt. 1854 in Bothwell, Lanark,Scotland. 3 ii. John BALLANTYNE, born 02 Feb 1815 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland FHL Film 1066589. 4 iii. James BALLANTYNE, born 21 Dec 1816 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland FHL Film 1066589. 5 iv. Henry BALLANTYNE, born 30 Sep 1819 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland FHL Film 1066589. 6 v. Andrew BALLANTYNE, born 12 Dec 1821 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland FHL Film 1066589. 7 vi. Adam BALLANTYNE, born 25 Jul 1826 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland FHL Film 1066589. 8 vii. Janet BALLANTYNE, born 28 Mar 1829 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland. Generation No. 2 2. Elizabeth (or Bannatyne)2 BALLANTYNE (Adam1) was born 1812 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland Re 1851 Census, and died Abt. 1854 in Bothwell, Lanark,Scotland. She married James SMITH 17 Oct 1830 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland. He was born 1804 in Douglas, Lanark, Scotland Re 1851 / 1861 Census. More About James SMITH and Elizabeth BALLANTYNE: Marriage: 17 Oct 1830, Douglas, Lanark, Scotland Children of Elizabeth BALLANTYNE and James SMITH are: 9 i. Janet3 SMITH, born 19 Nov 1830 in Rigside, Lanark, Scotland. + 10 ii. Mary SMITH, born 22 Sep 1837 in Carnwath, Lanark,Scotland. 11 iii. Adam SMITH, born 28 Jun 1841 in Carnwath, Lanark,Scotland. 12 iv. Marion SMITH, born 1843 in Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland; died Bef. 1851. 13 v. John SMITH, born 1849 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. 14 vi. Maryann SMITH, born 1851 in Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland. 15 vii. Elizabeth SMITH, born 1853 in Bothwell, Lanark,Scotland. Generation No. 3 10. Mary3 SMITH (Elizabeth (or Bannatyne)2 BALLANTYNE, Adam1) was born 22 Sep 1837 in Carnwath, Lanark,Scotland. She married Thomas MACKIE 13 Dec 1861 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. He was born 1840 in Ireland. More About Thomas MACKIE: Occupation: Apr 1881, Engine keeepr at Wilsons Rows, Carluke, Lanark, Scotland More About Thomas MACKIE and Mary SMITH: Marriage: 13 Dec 1861, Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Children of Mary SMITH and Thomas MACKIE are: 16 i. Elizabeth4 MACKIE, born 09 Apr 1862 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland; died Jun 1863 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. 17 ii. Robert MACKIE, born 04 Oct 1863 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. 18 iii. James MACKIE, born 21 Nov 1865 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland; died Nov 1891 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. 19 iv. Jane MACKIE, born 22 Oct 1867 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. 20 v. Martha MACKIE, born 1870 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland. 21 vi. Thomas MACKIE, born 1872 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland. 22 vii. John MACKIE, born 1874 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland. 23 viii. Charles MACKIE, born 1877 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland. 24 ix. Andrew MACKIE, born 1879 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland.

Hi Researching the above names O"NEILL's parents were John O'NEILL and Agnes KELLACHAN Mary O"NEILL b 1/3/1893 Blantyre married Daniel MULLEN b 1895 m 11/7/1915 St. Joseph's, Blantyre. Daniel's parents were James MULLEN and Helen McCORGRAY Joseph O"NEIL b 1895 Blantyre married Nellie KANE b 1896 m 14/1/1921 St. Joseph's, Blantyre. Nellie's parenst John KANE and Catherine GEMMELL Daniel O'NEILL b 5/7/1900 Blantyre died 1962 Bridgeton married Cassie (Other names real ? names unknown). Annie O'NEILL b 25/2/1904 Blantyre d 25/2/1989 married HAMILTON ( Other names real ? names unknown). Elizabeth O"NEILL b 14/10/1905 Blantyre m Tom ADAM other details unknown. Appreciate any help or leads Regards Paul Jones

2. Elizabeth2 MacKAY (Robert (McKIE)1) was born 1838 in Ireland Re 1851 Census. She married James BROWN 20 Apr 1860 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland M116281. He was born Abt. 1834 in Law, Lanark, Scotland?, and died Bet. 1878 - Apr 1881 in Law, Lanark, Scotland?. More About James BROWN and Elizabeth MacKAY: Marriage: 20 Apr 1860, Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland M116281 Children of Elizabeth MacKAY and James BROWN are: 7 i. John3 BROWN, born 27 Feb 1859 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland C116281. 8 ii. Jane BROWN, born 26 May 1861 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland C116281. 9 iii. James BROWN, born 01 Oct 1863 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland C116281. 10 iv. Sophia BROWN, born 15 Mar 1866 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland C116281. 11 v. Agnes B BROWN, born 18 Nov 1870 in Law, Carluke, Lanark, Scotland C116291 & 1881 Census. 12 vi. Charles BROWN, born 1875 in Law, Lanark, Scotland. 13 vii. Robert BROWN, born 1878 in Law, Lanark, Scotland. This goes with the Burials I previously posted. ANyone related?