Hello Lindsey In 1851, there was a Martha Mackie aged 51 born Ireland, lodging at 85 Bridgegate, Glasgow. She was a seamstress. Other lodgers included a Margaret Mackie, 36, born Glasgow and John Mackie, 18, a Flesher, born Glasgow. They were lodging with a family named "Marmock" according to the Ancestry transcription. The Head of Household was one David Marmock, 32, a Dealer, born Ireland. His wife Margaret, 34, was also born Ireland. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: <lafinken@aol.com> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:49 PM Subject: [Lanark] 1851 census > > 1851 a Martha Mackie or MacKay born in Ireland guessing to be aged 50-80. > > She was supposed to have traveled from Ireland to Scotland with her > family. But > she does not appear on the census in 1851 with them.

Hi again Testing the goods seems to be quite a common occurrence <g> (then and now :-) What you need to do is get the relevant certs from Scots people, it could be there are two couples but only the certs are likely to solve that Never take any transcription as perfect Unless you have evidence to the contrary there is also the chance the James BROWN had a first wife also an Elizabeth Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > The first son's birth is indicated as 27 Feb. 1859. Should I discount > one or the other date to be wrong? Would they have waited > that long after the birth to marry??? Any advice? > How about > > JAMES BROWN > Spouse: ELISABETH MACKIE > Marriage: 20 APR 1860 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland > M116281 1855 - 1875 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE

How about JAMES BROWN Spouse: ELISABETH MACKIE Marriage: 20 APR 1860 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland M116281 1855 - 1875 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE As an extraction it should be reasonably sound A copy can be ordered from the LDS or the film orded into your nearest LDS FHS Or Scotlandspeople should have it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Elizabeth MacKay to James Brown (daughter of Robert and Jane Lindsay > MacKay) > appears to have been married about 1858. > > Can anyone confirm this marriage by a look up? > > Thanks > > Brown children all born between 1859 and 1878 > > James Brown was supposed to have died about 1881. > > Thanks

I don't appear to have any Robert Moffat's in the line I am doing. There was a Thomas Moffat brother to John Moffat who had his own family in the 1851 census but no Robert born yet. Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Dean Scapolo <scapolo.dean@clear.net.nz> To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:11 pm Subject: [Lanark] Boyd & Lindsay Hi all, Quick response to two e-mails. BOYD, sorry, no connection to my line of BOYD, although my line has basically been fleshed out, and i can't confirm the connection I have to previous generations. IE: Gavin Boyd m. Jane Cooper around 1798, this is the earliest date I have. i have a strong possibility for Gavin's parents, but since Gavin died before 1855 I don't know of any way I can confirm it. LINDSAY. Quite strangely I have a Lindsay/Moffat marriage in my line, although it is the next generation down: John Lindsay m. Janet Moffat 1900, Wishaw. And apparently no connection to the one mentioned. Janet is the daughter of Robert Moffat and Helen Walker. John is the son of James Lindsay and Agnes Calderhead. Dean Scapolo Newlands, Wellington, NZ New Zealand Music Charts Consultant (Informal) http://nzchartbooks.blogspot.com/ http://www.abbamail.com/nzchart_book.htm ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ooh thank you a couple more Mackie names to delve into. Do not recognize the Marmock name but it might come in handy later. Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 2:11 pm Subject: Re: [Lanark] 1851 census Hello Lindsey In 1851, there was a Martha Mackie aged 51 born Ireland, lodging at 85 Bridgegate, Glasgow. She was a seamstress. Other lodgers included a Margaret Mackie, 36, born Glasgow and John Mackie, 18, a Flesher, born Glasgow. They were lodging with a family named "Marmock" according to the Ancestry transcription. The Head of Household was one David Marmock, 32, a Dealer, born Ireland. His wife Margaret, 34, was also born Ireland. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: <lafinken@aol.com> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:49 PM Subject: [Lanark] 1851 census > > 1851 a Martha Mackie or MacKay born in Ireland guessing to be aged 50-80. > > She was supposed to have traveled from Ireland to Scotland with her > family. But > she does not appear on the census in 1851 with them. ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tricia, We've stayed a number of times at the Argyll Hotel--it's within walking distance of the Mitchell Library, there are some good eateries in the neighbourhood, their breakfast is terrific, public transport is convenient--highly recommended. We've booked using their website. www.argyllhotelglasgow.co.uk 973 Sauchiehall Street Glasgow, G3 7TQ, United Kingdom 0141 337 3313 Cheers, Paul on Pender PS Do any of your Taylors have a connection with Lesmahagow? -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TRICIA Sent: January 29, 2010 8:05 AM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Glasgow: Paterson; Davidson; Crum; Dove; Taylor; Boyd; Robertson Hello to all. I am new to this board, so I will give you all the names I am working with. I will be coming to Glasgow in June to do some family history research, and I am looking for two things: Does anybody know of a reasonably priced B&B in Glasgow, and I am also seeking other descendants of the names below. I would love to meet some of my cousins. Yours, Tricia Port Alberni, Canada 1 Robert Campbell Paterson b: 30 Oct 1817 in East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland .. +Agnes Campbell b: 1821 in Inverkip, Renfrewshire, Scotland, UK . 2 Andrew Paterson b: 13 Aug 1842 in Glasgow . 2 John Campbell Paterson b: 19 Nov 1844 in Glasgow . 2 Agnes Craig Paterson b: 27 Sep 1846 in Tylefield St., Glasgow, Scotland ..... +William Watt . 2 Robert Paterson b: 21 Dec 1848 in Glasgow . 2 Campbell Paterson b: 30 Jul 1851 in Glasgow, Scotland, UK ..... +Elizabeth . *2nd Wife of [1] Campbell Paterson: ..... +Mary Ann Davidson b: 1853 in Edinburgh .... 3 Margaret Paterson b: 23 Apr 1873 in Glasgow .... 3 Agnes Campbell Paterson b: 19 Apr 1874 in Glasgow .... 3 Robert Paterson b: 1876 in Renfrew .... 3 James D Paterson b: 1879 in Eastwood, Renfrew .... 3 Catherine Paterson b: 1880 in Pollokshaws, Renfrew .... 3 Campbell Paterson b: 1884 in Shawlands ........ +Ann Brebner Simpson Davidson b: 29 Apr 1884 in Glasgow ........ 4 Dora Ann Paterson b: 21 Aug 1908 in Glasgow ........ 4 Campbell Paterson b: 28 Sep 1910 in Manchester, England ............ +Marie Matilda Rountree b: 19 Jun 1909 in TeKaha, East Coast, New Zealand .... 3 Elizabeth Paterson b: 1885 in Shawlands .... 3 Janet Paterson b: 1890 in Glasgow ........ +John Brownlie Crum b: in Scotland .... 3 William Watt Paterson b: 04 Jun 1891 in Glasgow . 2 Susan Paterson b: 22 Sep 1853 in Glasgow ..... +Alexander Turnbull Dove b: 12 Nov 1843 .... 3 Ebenezer Dove b: 1879 .... 3 Robert Paterson Dove b: 07 Feb 1881 ........ +Clara Wallace b: 13 Dec 1885 ........ 4 Alec Dove b: 29 Aug 1912 ............ +Evelyn ? ........ 4 Elsie Dove b: 24 Mar 1917 .... 3 Agnes Dove b: 1885 .... 3 Susan Dove b: 1893 .... 3 Ella Dove b: Abt. 1895 . 2 Elizabeth Paterson b: 11 Dec 1855 in Glasgow . 2 Thomas Paterson b: 11 Oct 1857 in Glasgow . 2 Walter Paterson b: 23 Jul 1860 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland, UK ..... +Christina Turnbull Noble b: 20 Jan 1864 in Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland . 2 Annie Paterson b: 05 Sep 1862 in Carluke ..... +James Taylor b: 1844 in Brodick . 2 Janet Finley Paterson b: 28 Nov 1864 in Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Scotland ..... +James Boyd b: Abt. 1862 .... 3 James Boyd b: Abt. 1901 .... 3 Ann Boyd b: 12 Apr 1903 in Scotland .... 3 Ella Boyd b: 17 Aug 1905 ........ +Frank Robertson b: 23 Aug 1905 ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Moffat son of James and Mary Moffat married Mary Anne Lindsay in Bonke Manse 1857. Thomas Moffat age 26 and Jane his wife in 1851 are living next door to John Moffatt and parents in Cambusnethan Parish for this census. Anyone related to these Moffats?

1851 a Martha Mackie or MacKay born in Ireland guessing to be aged 50-80. She was supposed to have traveled from Ireland to Scotland with her family. But she does not appear on the census in 1851 with them. Maybe she is living somewhere other than Cambusnethan ED 14 pages 7 and 8 where her family is. Does anyone have access to the 1851 census of Lanarkshire? Thanks

Charles Brown and Agnes Stone I think this Charles may be the son of James Brown and Elizabeth Mackie (MacKay brown) born 1875. That were married in 1860. I have indications his son (toddler) Charles Alfred Brown died 26 Sept 1912 buried in the Cambusnethan Church Yard. He was 5 years 6 months. Abode says Motherwell. Any connections anyone? Lindsey

JAMES GEMMELL attended the birth of one child of SAMUEL PATON and MARY CLARKSON (my family). MARY PATON b 27/12/1814 Witnesses were WILLIAM CLARKSON and JAMES GAMMELL. I felt that a witness to a birth should be some sort of relative and searched.I found JAMES GAMMEL b1763 in Fenwick, Ayr first and then "JOHN GEMMIL married JANET PATON in 22/03/1747 in Fenwick, Ayr". Samuel and Mary had also started in Kilmarnock or Fenwick area. . JOHN GEMMIL and JANET PATON had three daughters: MARGARET GEMMEL christened 06/04/1746 in Fenwick, Ayr HELEN GEMMEL christened 25/01/1756 in Fenwick, Ayr JEAN GEMMEL christened 10/02/1754 in Fenwick, Ayr . JOHN GEMMIL and JANET (Paton?) GEMMIL had a son James christened 23/01/1763 in Fenwick, Ayr . "JAMES GEMMELL Weaver in Glasgow Married EUPHEMIA CLARKSON residenter there 17/01/1814." James would be 51yrs old could have been married before too. . Does anyone know of these Gemmels? I have not been able to track EUPHEMIA CLARKSON's family yet.

The first son's birth is indicated as 27 Feb. 1859. Should I discount one or the other date to be wrong? Would they have waited that long after the birth to marry??? Any advice? -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [Lanark] marriage in Law Lanark How about JAMES BROWN Spouse: ELISABETH MACKIE Marriage: 20 APR 1860 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland M116281 1855 - 1875 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE As an extraction it should be reasonably sound A copy can be ordered from the LDS or the film orded into your nearest LDS FHS Or Scotlandspeople should have it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Elizabeth MacKay to James Brown (daughter of Robert and Jane Lindsay > MacKay) > appears to have been married about 1858. > > Can anyone confirm this marriage by a look up? > > Thanks > > Brown children all born between 1859 and 1878 > > James Brown was supposed to have died about 1881. > > Thanks ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

JAMES GEMMELL attended the birth of one child of SAMUEL PATON and MARY CLARKSON (my family). MARY PATON b 27/12/1814 Witnesses were WILLIAM CLARKSON and JAMES GAMMELL. I felt that a witness to a birth should be some sort of relative and searched.I found JAMES GAMMEL b1763 in Fenwick, Ayr first and then "JOHN GEMMIL married JANET PATON in 22/03/1747 in Fenwick, Ayr". Samuel and Mary had also started in Kilmarnock or Fenwick area. . JOHN GEMMIL and JANET PATON had three daughters: MARGARET GEMMEL christened 06/04/1746 in Fenwick, Ayr HELEN GEMMEL christened 25/01/1756 in Fenwick, Ayr JEAN GEMMEL christened 10/02/1754 in Fenwick, Ayr . JOHN GEMMIL and JANET (Paton?) GEMMIL had a son James christened 23/01/1763 in Fenwick, Ayr . "JAMES GEMMELL Weaver in Glasgow Married EUPHEMIA CLARKSON residenter there 17/01/1814." James would be 51yrs old could have been married before too. . Does anyone know of these Gemmels? I have not been able to track EUPHEMIA CLARKSON's family yet.

Elizabeth MacKay to James Brown (daughter of Robert and Jane Lindsay MacKay) appears to have been married about 1858. Can anyone confirm this marriage by a look up? Thanks Brown children all born between 1859 and 1878 James Brown was supposed to have died about 1881. Thanks

Quite a common occurance. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lafinken@aol.com Sent: January 29, 2010 10:03 AM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] marriage in Law Lanark The first son's birth is indicated as 27 Feb. 1859. Should I discount one or the other date to be wrong? Would they have waited that long after the birth to marry??? Any advice? -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [Lanark] marriage in Law Lanark How about JAMES BROWN Spouse: ELISABETH MACKIE Marriage: 20 APR 1860 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland M116281 1855 - 1875 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE As an extraction it should be reasonably sound A copy can be ordered from the LDS or the film orded into your nearest LDS FHS Or Scotlandspeople should have it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Elizabeth MacKay to James Brown (daughter of Robert and Jane Lindsay > MacKay) > appears to have been married about 1858. > > Can anyone confirm this marriage by a look up? > > Thanks > > Brown children all born between 1859 and 1878 > > James Brown was supposed to have died about 1881. > > Thanks

Tricia, Welcome to the list. I hope you make some good connections through other subscribers. Several of your listed names are common in some of my tree "twigs", but no matches to my data. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TRICIA Sent: January 29, 2010 8:05 AM To: LANARK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] Glasgow: Paterson; Davidson; Crum; Dove; Taylor; Boyd;Robertson Hello to all. I am new to this board, so I will give you all the names I am working with. Yours, Tricia Port Alberni, Canada

Hello to all. I am new to this board, so I will give you all the names I am working with. I will be coming to Glasgow in June to do some family history research, and I am looking for two things: Does anybody know of a reasonably priced B&B in Glasgow, and I am also seeking other descendants of the names below. I would love to meet some of my cousins. Yours, Tricia Port Alberni, Canada 1 Robert Campbell Paterson b: 30 Oct 1817 in East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland .. +Agnes Campbell b: 1821 in Inverkip, Renfrewshire, Scotland, UK . 2 Andrew Paterson b: 13 Aug 1842 in Glasgow . 2 John Campbell Paterson b: 19 Nov 1844 in Glasgow . 2 Agnes Craig Paterson b: 27 Sep 1846 in Tylefield St., Glasgow, Scotland ..... +William Watt . 2 Robert Paterson b: 21 Dec 1848 in Glasgow . 2 Campbell Paterson b: 30 Jul 1851 in Glasgow, Scotland, UK ..... +Elizabeth . *2nd Wife of [1] Campbell Paterson: ..... +Mary Ann Davidson b: 1853 in Edinburgh .... 3 Margaret Paterson b: 23 Apr 1873 in Glasgow .... 3 Agnes Campbell Paterson b: 19 Apr 1874 in Glasgow .... 3 Robert Paterson b: 1876 in Renfrew .... 3 James D Paterson b: 1879 in Eastwood, Renfrew .... 3 Catherine Paterson b: 1880 in Pollokshaws, Renfrew .... 3 Campbell Paterson b: 1884 in Shawlands ........ +Ann Brebner Simpson Davidson b: 29 Apr 1884 in Glasgow ........ 4 Dora Ann Paterson b: 21 Aug 1908 in Glasgow ........ 4 Campbell Paterson b: 28 Sep 1910 in Manchester, England ............ +Marie Matilda Rountree b: 19 Jun 1909 in TeKaha, East Coast, New Zealand .... 3 Elizabeth Paterson b: 1885 in Shawlands .... 3 Janet Paterson b: 1890 in Glasgow ........ +John Brownlie Crum b: in Scotland .... 3 William Watt Paterson b: 04 Jun 1891 in Glasgow . 2 Susan Paterson b: 22 Sep 1853 in Glasgow ..... +Alexander Turnbull Dove b: 12 Nov 1843 .... 3 Ebenezer Dove b: 1879 .... 3 Robert Paterson Dove b: 07 Feb 1881 ........ +Clara Wallace b: 13 Dec 1885 ........ 4 Alec Dove b: 29 Aug 1912 ............ +Evelyn ? ........ 4 Elsie Dove b: 24 Mar 1917 .... 3 Agnes Dove b: 1885 .... 3 Susan Dove b: 1893 .... 3 Ella Dove b: Abt. 1895 . 2 Elizabeth Paterson b: 11 Dec 1855 in Glasgow . 2 Thomas Paterson b: 11 Oct 1857 in Glasgow . 2 Walter Paterson b: 23 Jul 1860 in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland, UK ..... +Christina Turnbull Noble b: 20 Jan 1864 in Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland . 2 Annie Paterson b: 05 Sep 1862 in Carluke ..... +James Taylor b: 1844 in Brodick . 2 Janet Finley Paterson b: 28 Nov 1864 in Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Scotland ..... +James Boyd b: Abt. 1862 .... 3 James Boyd b: Abt. 1901 .... 3 Ann Boyd b: 12 Apr 1903 in Scotland .... 3 Ella Boyd b: 17 Aug 1905 ........ +Frank Robertson b: 23 Aug 1905

My WALKER interests are James WALKER born 22/1/1832 at Greenock Renfrewshire , parents John WALKER ( mason ) and Mary HENDERSON married Eliza STEWART ( widow ) born Cambelltown Argyllshire 13/8/1856 at Greenock their children were John Henderson WALKER born 1857 Greenock Eliza WALKER born 1858 Glasgow Mary WALKER born 1861 Glasgow Jessie WALKER born 1863 Glasgow Jessie WALKER born 1863 ( possibly married ????Adare ) James WALKER born 1866 Glasgow ( possibly deceased as he doesnt appear on any of the census ) James WALKER Barrel Merchant born 1832 died at Cathcart Lanarkshire 27/4/1902 Does anyone have any connection to this family Kind regards to all on the list Brian Johnson Australind West Australia

Dear Nivard, Thank you very much for the information. I have a few BDMs for which there are no images on Scotland's People so I will have them checked by the researcher. Cheers, Cherilyn in Melbourne

Hi I wondered if anybody had access to the burials for Hamilton (1829-1855). I am looking for Isobel SMITH and George SMITH. Many thanks Julie

Hi Donna Wills are different to other records, they cost *five pounds* each not credits They are instantly downloadable once paid for After you search, (the search results are free for wills) on the search results page it shows on the right that each will (regardless of how many pages) is 5gbp Click view and pay, then follow directions Save a copy to your hard drive Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I have used Scotland's people quite a bit, downloaded and printed many > documents. I don't quite understand the wills. I tried to down load one > like I did the marriage, birth, census etc. and nothing happens. Do I > have > to order a will and have it mailed by snail mail to me? I requested for > one > and I paid my points and then I just didn't get it. Does it cost more > then the 5 credits? Do you have any suggestions on what I should have > done > because I sure did something wrong? > > Donna