I have a brick wall that I would like some help with. My 2^nd G.G. was AGNES CAMPBELL. She was born 1821 in Inverkip, Renfrewshire, and died 15 Feb 1904 in Glasgow. She married ROBERT CAMPBELL PATERSON on 11 Jul 1841 in Glasgow, Lanark. He was the son of ANDREW PATERSON and SUSAN WATT. He was born 30 Oct 1817 in East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland, and died 14 Jun 1882 in Glasgow. I cannot seem to find any birth or baptismal record for Agnes, so I have been unable to trace her line. Can anyone help or give me some ideas. I live in Canada so research is only on-line for me. Tricia Datené

Hello Don Thank you so much Bob -------------------------------------------------- From: "Don Muirhead" <muirhead@kwic.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:30 PM To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [Lanark] Alexander REID and Elizabeth McINTYRE > Alexander REID son of James REID/Margaret HAMILTON > Elizabeth MCINTYRE daughter of Hugh MCINTYRE/Elizabeth MCINTYRE maiden > name > GILLIES > > Everything you ever wanted plus a whole lot more can be found at > http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk > > Cheers!!! > > Don Muirhead > Port Dover, ON CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of robertgascoigne > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:05 PM > To: Lanark List > Subject: [Lanark] Alexander REID and Elizabeth McINTYRE > > Hello List > > I am seeking an Alexander Reid who married Elizabeth McIntyre on 29 Dec > 1882 . They already had a daughter Elizabeth born 05 sep 1882 in > Bridgeton, > Glasgow. Alexander gives his father as James Reid, an Iron Foundry > Worker, > Deceased. Elizabeth's father was Hugh McIntyre ,Tobacco Spinner . I have > searched Ancestry every way I can think of but still cannot find either of > their parents to go back in Time. > > Thank You in Advance > > Bob > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Alexander REID son of James REID/Margaret HAMILTON Elizabeth MCINTYRE daughter of Hugh MCINTYRE/Elizabeth MCINTYRE maiden name GILLIES Everything you ever wanted plus a whole lot more can be found at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of robertgascoigne Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:05 PM To: Lanark List Subject: [Lanark] Alexander REID and Elizabeth McINTYRE Hello List I am seeking an Alexander Reid who married Elizabeth McIntyre on 29 Dec 1882 . They already had a daughter Elizabeth born 05 sep 1882 in Bridgeton, Glasgow. Alexander gives his father as James Reid, an Iron Foundry Worker, Deceased. Elizabeth's father was Hugh McIntyre ,Tobacco Spinner . I have searched Ancestry every way I can think of but still cannot find either of their parents to go back in Time. Thank You in Advance Bob

Hello List I am seeking an Alexander Reid who married Elizabeth McIntyre on 29 Dec 1882 . They already had a daughter Elizabeth born 05 sep 1882 in Bridgeton, Glasgow. Alexander gives his father as James Reid, an Iron Foundry Worker, Deceased. Elizabeth's father was Hugh McIntyre ,Tobacco Spinner . I have searched Ancestry every way I can think of but still cannot find either of their parents to go back in Time. Thank You in Advance Bob

Thanks for the comment Jim and of course for the excellent work. Bill Melbourne Oz jbundy48@verizon.net wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Before I send out this ED, I need to let you know just how unusually this > enumerator approached his task. First, birthplace detail tends to be > cryptic, although at times has more detail than usual, as in a few cases > mentioning the county in Ireland of birth. Usually though, its just a parish > or sometimes just a village name, with no county. > > The strangest habit though is that if the head of household is a coal miner, > then his spouse and all his childreb, sometimes down to infants, are coal > miners also! Obviously not the case. > > Well, at least he remembered to fill his pen with ink, which is more than I > can says for some. Smile emoticon > > Jim > >

1804 Robert Easton miner residing at Meikle Hairshaw and Janet Thomson Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Wednesday the 26^th day of December & Baptised here upon Sunday the 13 Jany 1805 years and Named Euphemia Easton 1804 John Baird Esquire, Manager and one of the Partners of Shotts Iron Company and Mrs Mary Murray Spouses had a Son born at their house at Shotts Iron Works upon Thursday, being the twentieth day of December and Baptised there upon Friday the 18^th Jany 1805 and Named James Baird 1805 John Connor, Miner at Shotts Iron Works and Margret Anderson Spouses, had a Daughter born there upon Thursday the 3^rd January and Baptised here on Sunday the 6^th same Month and Named Jean Connor 1804 James Russell of Longacre and Janet Gardner his lawful Spouses had a Son born there, upon the Nineteenth day of September & Baptised the 15^th January 1805 and Named Peter Russell page 8 1804 William Mair, Farmer in Damhead and Agnes Wilson his lawful Wife had a Son born there upon Thursday the Sixth day of December and Baptised by the Revd Andrew Duncanson Minr of the Burgher Congregation Airdrie and Named James Mair 1805 Thomas Davis coalhewer at Shotts Iron Works and Agnes Rennie his lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon Friday the 4^th January and Baptised in the Church here upon Sunday the 27^th same month & Named William Davis 1805 William Walker in Hartwood Mill and Mary Neilson his lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon Monday the 21^st day of January and Baptised in the Church here, upon Sunday the 3d Feby and Named Robert Walker 1805 Robert Brown mason & Teacher in Biggar Shott and Margaret Muir his lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon Thursday the 31^st day of January and Baptised in the Church here upon Sunday the 10^th Feby and Named John Brown 1804 Archibald Downs farmer in Braefoot of Moffat hills and Jean Thomson his lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon the Nineth day of Feby and Baptised and Named James Downs 1805 Andrew Thomson tenant in Easter Batton and Isobel Pettigrew his lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Wednesday the Sixteenth day of January ad Baptised and Named Catherine Thomson 1805 David Lees coalier at Knownoble and Jean Cowan his lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Monday morning the 18^th Feby and Baptised here Sunday the 3d March and Named Helen Lees 1805 Adam Anderson smith at Omoa Foundry and Catherine Archibald his Lawful Spouses had a Daughter born upon Monday the 18^th Feby and Baptised here upon Sunday the 10^th March & Named Jean Anderson 1804 Elisabeth Martin natural Child to James Martin dyke Contractor at Allanton and Margaret Thomson in Woodhead in this Parish, Born the 14^th day of Novr & Baptised here the 17^th March 1805

Page 21 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 71 Gartgill Village Henry Rowan Head Married 33 Coal Miner Barony Margt “ Wife “ 28 “ “ “ James “ Son 7 Scholar Old Monkland Margt “ Daugh 5 “ “: Mary “ “ 2 “ “ 72 “ “ Dougal Carmichael Head Married 55 Labourer Argylshire Appin Agnes “ Wife “ 57 “ “ “ “ Nicol McIntire Brother in law U 71 Do “ “ Catherine “ Sister in law U 55 “ “ 73 “ “ Bruce Roy Head Married 32 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Old Monkland Agnes “ Wife “ 31 “ “ “ “ Christina “ Daugh 9 “ “ “ “ Janet “ “ 3 “ “ “ “ Agnes “ “ 1m “ “ “ “ 74 “ “ James Boag Head Married 43 Railway Pointsman Linlithgow Jane “ Wife “ 45 “ “ Lanarkshire Alex “ Son U 19 Rail Brakes Man Airdrie John “ “ “ 16 Wagon Driver Kirkintilloch James “ “ “ 11 Scholar “ “ Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 9 10 Page 22 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 75 Gartgill Village Alex Thomson Head Married 30 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Shotts Jane “ Wife “ 30 “ “ Old Monkland Math “ Son 10 Scholar “ “ Mary “ Daugh 8 “ “ “ “ Helen “ “ 5 “ “ Jane “ “ 3 “ “ Wm “ Son 5m “ “ 76 “ “ Thos Henderson Head Married 35 Railway Station Starter Haddingtonshire Alderton Jane “ Wife “ 27 “ “ Kent Woolwich Richard “ Son 8 Belgium Chokien Thos “ “ 4 “ Do, do Mary “ Daugh 6 “ Do, do Agnes “ “ 2 “ Lanarkshire Wm “ Son 1 “ “ Old Monkland Ann Green Servant U 16 “ Servant Ireland Monahan Wm Archibald Lodger U 39 “ Porter Fifeshire Cupar 77 “ “ Mary Dickson Head Widow 60 Labourer Lanarkshire Cadder James “ Son U 29 Railway Pointsman “ “ Malcom “ “ “ 20 Blacksmith Apprentice “ “ John Donaldson Grandson 9 Scholar “ “ Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 11 9 Page 23 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 78 Gartgill Village Wm Semple Head Mar 26 Railway Porter Lanarkshire Strathhaven Elist “ Wife “ 21 “ “ Carstairs Margt “ Daugh 3 “ “ “ Lanark Jane “ “ 6m “ “ Old Monkland Henry Paisley Lodger U 24 Coach Maker Ireland Margt Clark Visitor “ 14 Scholar Lanarkshire Carstairs 79 “ “ Margt Graham Head Widow 45 House Keeper Campsite Thos “ Son U 21 Coal Miner “ “ Robt “ “ “ 18 “ “ “ “ Margt “ Daugh 16 Scholar “ “ Jane “ “ 10 “ “ “ Wm Brown Lodger U 26 Coal Miner Stirlingshire Mallengace 80 “ “ James Murrey Head Married 45 Coal Miner Ireland Down Elist “ Wife “ 37 “ “ “ “ Agnes “ Daugh 14 “ “ “ “ John “ Son 12 “ “ “ “ Thos “ “ 10 Scholar “ New Monkland Margt “ Daugh 5 “ “ Lanarkshire Airdrie Alex “ Son 3 “ “ James “ “ 1 “ “ Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 10 10 Page 24 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 81 Gartgill Village Wm Thomson Head Married 45 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Old Monkland Helen “ Wife “ 45 “ “ “ “ Wm “ Son U 15 “ “ “ “ David Boyd Lodger “ 15 “ “ “ “ James Love “ “ 30 “ “ Renfrewshire Eastwood 82 “ “ David Baxter Head Married 35 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Westmuir Margt “ Wife “ 35 “ “ “ “ Jane “ Daugh 10 “ Old Monkland Agnes “ “ 9 Scholar “ “ “ David “ Son 6 “ “ “ “ Elis “ Daugh 4 “ “ Margt “ “ 3 “ “ Isabela “ “ 7m “ “ 83 “ “ John Miller Head Married 47 Coal Miner Dumfriesshire Ann ” Wife “ 61 “ “ Bothwell James Keepey Lodger U 14 Engine Cleaner Dublin John Baird “ “ 20 Black Smith Dalmarnock Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 9 8 End of Gartgill District John Allan

Page 17 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 57 Gartgill Village Math Meallet Head Mar 21 Rail plate layer Cadder Tanah(?) Janet “ Wife “ 23 “ “ “ “ Ann “ Daugh 1m “ “ “ “ 58 “ “ Daniel Moffat Head Widower 47 Labourer Lanarkshire Airdrie Margt “ Daugh U 19 House Keeper “ “ Daniel “ Son “ 17 Coal Miner “ “ James “ “ 15 “ “ “ “ John “ “ 9 Scholar Linlithgowshire Bathgate Catherine “ Daugh 7 “ “ “ “ Wm Jarvis Grandson 1 Old Monkland 59 “ “ Ths Watchman Head Married 53 Coal Miner Lanarkshire West Muir Mary “ Wife “ 40 “ “ Argylshire Elisabeth “ Daugh U 20 “ “ Lanarkshire West Muir Mary “ “ 7 “ “ “ Old Monkland Martha “ “ 7 “ “ “ “ 60 “ “ James Bedel Head Married 30 Coal Miner Ireland Mary “ Wife “ 29 “ “ “ “ Sarah “ Daugh 9 Scholar “ Lanark New Monkland James “ Son 9 “ “ “ “ Thos McKay Lodger Married 36 “ “ Ireland Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 10 10 Page 18 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 61 Gartgill Village Hugh Cross Head Married 62 Pit headman Old Monkland Christ do Wife “ 61 “ “ “ “ Christ Thomson Grand daur U 14 House Maid “ “ 62 Hugh Thom Head Married 37 Engine Keeper Lanarkshire Cadder Elisabeth “ Wife “ 36 “ “ Beath Margt Daugh 5 “ “ Old Monkland Malcholm “ Son 3 “ “ “ “ Janet “ Daugh 11m “ “ “ “ Charles McFarlan Lodger U 16 Labourer Port of Montieth 63 “ “ James Chalmers Head Married 45 Coal Miner Ireland Derry Elis “ Wife “ 42 “ “ Campsie Wm “ Son U 24 “ “ “ “ Oliver “ “ “ 22 “ “ “ “ James “ “ “ 12 “ “ “ “ Arch “ “ “ 10 “ “ Old Monkland Alex “ “ “ 6 “ “ “ “ Elisa “ Daugh 3 “ “ “ “ Samuel “ Son 10m “ “ “ “ Total; of Houses I3 Total of Persons 11 7 Page 19 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 64 Gartgill Village Alex Pollock Head Married 41 Coal Miner Campsite Jane “ Wife “ 44 “ “ Glasgow Christ “ Daugh U 15 “ “ Campsie Samuel “ Son 12 “ “ “ “ Alex “ “ 10 “ “ “ “ James “ “ 8 Scholar Old Monkland Wm “ “ 6 “ “ “ “ John “ “ 5 “ “ Andw “ “ 2 “ “ 65 James Mitchell Head Married 40 Engine Keeper Stirlingshire Kippen Cath “ Wife “ 42 “ “ Slamanan Margt “ Daugh 13 “ “ New Monkland Mary “ “ 9 “ “ “ “ Cath “ “ 7 “ “ “ “ 66 “ “ Edward Cain Head Married 35 Coal Miner Ireland Bridget “ Wife “ 35 “ “ “ “ James “ Son 13 “ “ “ “ Edward “ “ 1 “ “ “ “ Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 11 7 Page 20 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 67 Gartgill Village Thos Anderson Head Married 40 Smith’s Labourer Cumbernauld Elis “ Wife “ 41 “ “ “ “ Thos “ Son U 21 Smith’s “ “ “ John “ “ “ 17 “ do “ “ “ Mary “ Daugh “ 15 “ “ Alex “ Son 14 “ son “ “ “ Agnes “ Daugh 9 Scholar “ “ James “ Son 7 Scholar Old Monkland Janet “ Daugh 4 “ “ Elis “ “ 2m “ “ 68 “ “ Malcom Fisher Head Unm 28 Labourer Perthshire Downs Margt “ Mother Widow 70 “ “ Wm McAlpine Lodger U 29 “ “ “ “ 69 “ “ Robt Jack Head Married 54 Coal Miner Barony Mary “ Wife “ 70 “ “ Tarbart Mary Moffat Step Daugh Widow 52 Airdrie 70 “ “ John Gibson Head Married 39 Coal Miner Mearns Mary “ Wife “ 36 “ “ Ireland Robt C “ Son U 17 “ “ Barony Mary C “ Daugh 12 “ “ “ “ Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 10 10

Page 13 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 43 Garteloss John Lawson Head Marr 30 Labourer Campsite Jane “ Wife “ 22 “ “ Baldernock Mary “ Daugh 2 “ “ Old Monkland Alexr “ Son 3m “ “ “ “ Margt McKendrick Visitor U 25 Baldernock 44 “ “ Jane Robb Head Widow 60 House Keeper Glencairn James “ Son U 36 Rail Pointeman Ayr Dalrymple Elisb “ Daugh “ 18 House Servant “ “ Agnes Moses Visitor Marr 24 “ “ John A Harvy “ 1 Glasgow 45 “ “ John Peat Head Marr 41 Coal Miner Campsite Elis “ Wife “ 42 “ “ New Monkland George “ Son 14 “ “ Campsite John “ “ 13 “ “ “ “ Mary “ Daugh 8 Scholar “ “ Jane “ “ 7 “ “ “ “ Grace “ “ 4 “ “ New Monkland Elisb “ “ 2 “ “ “ “ Jane Peat Mother Widow 70 Slamannan Two house uninhabited Total of Houses I3, U2 Total of Persons 7 12 Page 14 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 47 Killgarth Farm Wm Paterson Head Married 47 Farmer of 100 acres employing 4 lab Old Monkland Jane “ Wife “ 47 Farmers wife “ “ Alexr “ Son U 19 “ son “ “ John “ “ “ 17 “ “ “ “ Wm “ “ 15 “ “ “ “ Andw “ “ “ 10 “ “ “ “ Janet “ Daugh 8 Scholar “ “ Mary “ “ 5 “ “ Elisabeth Black Servant Widow 44 House Servant “ “ 48 Killgarth Village James Allan Head Married 31 Coal Miner Old Monkland Janet “ Wife “ 26 “ “ St Quivox Margt “ Daugh 3 “ “ Shotts Helen “ “ 1 “ “ Old Monkland John Wilson Lodger U 17 “ “ Abbey Paisley 49 “ “ Robt Lindsay Head Married 36 Coal Miner Carmichael Agnes “ Wife “ 35 “ “ Lanark George “ Son 15 “ “ Old Monkland James “ “ 10 “ “ “ “ Janet “ Daugh 3 “ “ “ “ Robt “ Son 1 “ “ “ “ Total of Houses I5 Total of Persons 11 9 Page 15 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 50 Killgarth Village Peter Wilson Head Married 49 Coal Miner Ayrshire St Quivox Jane “ Wife “ 47 “ “ New Monkland Alex do Son U 13 “ “ Old Monkland Agnes “ Daugh 11 “ “ “ “ Ann Mitchell Daugh in Law 9 “ “ “ “ Hugh Livingston Lodger U 18 “ “ Lanark Barony 51 “ “ James Mitchell Head Married 27 Firesman Coal Pit “ Bothwell Mary “ Wife “ 20 “ “ Old Monkland Agnes “ Daugh 1 “ “ “ “ Duncan Donaldson Lodger U 23 Coal Miner Muiravonside 52 “ “ Wm Shanks Head Married 27 Pitheadman New Monkland Margt “ Wife 22 “ “ “ “ Robt do Son 2 “ “ “ “ Math F “ “ 3m “ “ Old Monkland Charles Campbell Lodger U 20 Pithead Labourer 53 “ “ Wm Parker Head Married 22 Engine Keeper Lanark Barony Grace do Wife “ 21 “ “ mid Falkirk James “ Son 7m “ “ Old Monkland Robt Galphillen Lodger 12 Barony Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 12 7 Page 16 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 54 Killgarth Village Mitchel Donaldson Head Widower 50 Coal Miner Monevard Perthshire Margt “ Daugh U 19 “ “ Muiravonside Sterling John “ Son “ 18 “ “ “ “ Wm “ “ “ 16 Tailor “ “ James “ “ “ 14 Coal Miner “ “ Michael “ “ “ 9 Scholar “ “ Joseph “ “ “ 7 Do “ “ John Marshall Grandson 6m Old Monkland Margt “ Sister U 60 House Keeper Perthshire Monavard 55 “ “ Mitchell Hodge Head Married 30 Coal Miner Fifeshire Beath Janet M “ Wife “ 21 “ “ Ayrshire Muirkirk James C “ Son 6 Fifeshire Beath Alex Stevenson Lodger U 17 Do Sterlingshire 56 Gartgill Village Alexr Johnston Head Married 35 Railway Labourer Bathgate Janet “ Wife “ 32 “ “ Lanarkshire Shotts Mary “ Daugh 12 “ “ Old Monkland Janet “ “ 10 “ “ “ “ Marion “ “ 7 “ “ “ “ Wm “ Son 4 “ “ “ “ Margt “ Daugh 1 “ “ “ “ Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 12 8

Page 10 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 32 Garteloss Patrick Linch Head Married 31 Coal Miner Ireland Mary “ Wife “ 28 “ “ “ “ Allic “ Daugh 5 “ “ “ “ Laurence “ Son 3 “ “ Hamilton Cath “ Daugh 2m “ “ Old Monkland 33 “ “ Colin Campbell Head Married 24 Coal Miner Old Monkland Florah “ Wife 24 “ “ “ “ Florah “ Daugh 3 “ “ “ “ Colin “ Son 1 “ “ “ “ 34 “ “ Daniel McGrath Head 37 Coal Miner Ireland Mary “ Wife 38 “ “ Muirkirk Margt “ Daugh 9 “ “ Old Monkland John “ Son 7 Scholar “ “ George “ “ 3 “ “ “ “ Mary J “ Daugh 1 “ “ 35 “ “ Andw Irvine Head Married 36 Coal Miner Dunfermline Ann “ Wife “ 31 “ “ Old Monkland James “ Son 10 Scholar “ “ Mary “ Daugh 1 “ “ Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 9 10 Page 11 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 36 Garteloss James McKendrick Head Married 41 Coal Miner Baldernock Agnes “ Wife 41 “ “ Campsite Isabela “ Daugh 12 “ “ Baldernock Mary “ “ 10 “ “ “ “ Wm “ Son 8 “ “ “ “ Agnes “ Daugh 6 “ “ “ “ 37 “ “ John Harvey Head Married 37 Coal Miner Old Monkland Janet “ Wife 36 “ “ Larbert John “ Son 13 “ “ Old Monkland James “ “ 10 “ “ “ “ Robt “ 1 “ “ “ “ 38 “ “ Thos Johnston Head Marr 20 Coal Miner Old Monkland Christina “ Wife “ 20 “ “ Paisley Margt “ Daugh 8m “ “ Old Monkland James Forrester Visitor Marr 40 Shoemaker Paisley Margt “ Wife “ 40 “ “ Dunoon Agnes “ Daugh 9 “ “ Airdrie Ann “ “ 7 “ “ “ “ Mary “ “ 5 “ “ “ “ Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 8 11 Page 12 No. of Householder’s Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 39 Garteloss Janet Conner Head Widow 36 Pauper (“coallier” lined out) Ireland Wm do Son 15 “ “ “ “ Sarah “ Daugh 12 “ “ “ “ Thos “ Son 9 Scholar “ “ Robt “ “ 7 Scholar “ “ Mary “ Daugh 4 Old Monkland Ann “ 2 “ “ 40 “ “ John Hunter Head Married 41 Coal Miner Barony Agnes “ Wife “ 39 “ “ “ “ David “ Son 3 “ “ Old Monkland Christ Eddinson Neice 13 41 “ “ James McHellan Head U 19 Brick Maker Ireland Thos “ “ 18 Coal Miner “ “ Mary “ “ 16 “ “ Ann “ “ 14 “ “ Margt “ 8 “ “ 42 “ “ Joseph Addie Head Marr 41 Pitheadman Lanarkshire Bothwell Christina “ Wife “ 35 “ “ “ Stonehouse James “ Son 13 Errand boy “ “ Gavin “ “ 7 “ Old Monkland Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 10 10

Page 7 No. of Householderâs Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 20 Garteloss Robt Kenan Head Married 35 Coal Miner Ireland Eliza â Wife â 31 â â Dundonald Robt â Son 8 â â â â Wm â â 3 â â New Monkland Eliza â Daugh 1 â â Old Monkland 21 â â Agnes Pollock Head Widow 31 Pauper (âcoal minerâ lined out) Campsite Sophia do Daugh 9 Scholar Old Monkland Christina â â 7 Scholar â â Elisab â â 5 â â â James â Son 2 â â Samuel â â 10 days â â 22 â â Stanhope Fleming Head Unmar 21 Coal Miner Ireland Sarah â Mother Married 74 â â â â Martha Scollach Lodger Widow 70 â â â â Thos Freeman Lodger Un 12 â â Gibraltar 23 â â Math Thomson Head Married 52 Coal Miner Linlithgow Bathgate Marg â Wife â 47 â Old Monkland George â Son U 17 â â â â Alexr â â 12 â â â â Helen â Daugh 3 â â â â Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 10 10 Page 8 No. of Householderâs Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 24 Garteloss Wm Thomson Head Married 22 Coal Miner Old Monkland Mary â Wife â 24 â â Campsite Math â Son 1 â â Old Monkland 25 â â Math Oliphant Head Married 40 Coal Miner Ireland Agnes â Wife â 39 â â â â Math â Son 9 â â Old Monkland Agnes â Daugh 4 â â Barony Isabela â â 7m â â â â 26 â â Edward Carlind Head Married 30 Coal Miner Ireland Jessie â Wife â 28 â â Fife Kirkaldy James â Son 7 Scholar â New Monkland Wm â â 3 â â Barony Margt â Daugh 9m â â Slamanan Mary â Lodger Widow 65 â â Ireland Wm â â U 22 Coal Miner Ireland 27 â â John Stewart Head Married 30 Coal Miner Stirling Janet â Wife â 26 â â Lanark Janet Thomson Daugh 18m â â Old Monkland Charles â Lodger Un 22 â â Stirling Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 10 9 Page 9 No. of Householderâs Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 28 Garteloss Robt Reid Head Mar 57 Coal Miner Ireland Catherine â Wife â 50 â â Paisley 29 â â George Neilson Head Married 48 Coal Miner Ireland Catherine â Wife â 51 â â â â Andw â Son 7 â â Shotts Rabina â Daugh 2 â â Old Monkland Ann â â 6 â â â â Catherine â Lodger U 27 Ireland 30 â â Michel Cain Head Marr 36 Coal Miner Ireland Bridget â Wife â 30 â â â â Susannah â Daugh 2 â â Glasgow Michel â Son 9m â â Old Monkland Thos Hewat Lodger U 30 Coal Miner Ireland Mary Purdie â U 22 â â Jane Hewat Daugh of Thos Hewat 11m Old Monkland 31 â â Adam William Head Married 23 Coal Miner Edinburgh Margt â Wife â 25 â â Old Monkland James â son 4 â â â â Jessie â Daugh 1m â â â â Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 8 11

Page 4 No. of Householderâs Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 11 Townhead James Thomson Head Married 31 Coal Miner Campsite Agnes â Wife â 30 â â Old Monkland Mary â Daught 11 â â â â John â Son 9 â â â â Helen â Daught 6 â â â â Agnes â â 3 â â â â Janet â â 1 â â â â 12 S Lochend Hugh Dick Head Married 41 Farmer 40 acres employing 2 L Ayrshire Mary â Wife â 31 â â â Jane â Daugh 7 â Old Monkland Agnes â â 5 â â â â Mary â â 4 â â â â Adam â Son 2 â â â â Hugh â Sr Father Widower 82 Do Father Ayrshire Grace Stewart Servant U 21 House Servant Stirling John Jack â â 13 Farm Servant Kirkentilloch Total of Houses I2 Total of Persons 6 10 Page 5 No. of Householderâs Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 13 N Lochend Alexr Paterson Head Married 40 Farmer 60 acres employing 2 L Old Monkland Catherine â Wife â 21 â Bute Kilbride Mary â Mother Widow 72 Farmers Mother Old Monkland Marion Watters Servant U 18 House Servant Strathaven Wm Leitel Servant U 23 Farm â Renfrew Killannen Joseph Campbell â â 54 â â Ireland 14 Wordend Hugh Cowpir Head Widower 54 Farmer of 86 acres Renfrewshire Thos â Son U 27 Do Eastwood Arch McIrmick Servant U 14 Dumbarton Cumbernauld Lilian McLaren â â 28 House Servant Argyle Cippin Agnes McDonald â â 16 â â Do Lismore 15 Whitehill Robt Marshall Head Mar 25 Farmer of 70 acres emply 2 Dumbarton Cumbernauld Janet â Wife â 24 â New Monkland Elis â Daugh 2 â â Old Monkland Isabela â â 11m â â â â Robt Bulloch Servant U 20 Farm Servant New Monkland Margt Donald â â 20 â â Culter do Ellison Marshall â â 14 â â Dumbarton Cumbernauld Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 8 10 Page 6 No. of Householderâs Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 16 Garteloss John Shanks Head Married 30 Farmer of 30 acres Old Monkland Jane â Wife â 20 Farmers wife New Monkland Janet â Daugh 2m Old Monkland Jane â Visitor U 23 â â Jane Meek Servant 15 Servant â â 17 â â John Moffat Head Married 42 Coal Contractor Old Monkland Marey â Wife â 37 â â Stonehouse 18 â â Robt Eddie Head Mar 45 Coal miner Dumbarton Janet â Wife â 41 â â â â Wm â Son 18 â â Old Monkland John â â 16 â â â â James â â 14 â â â â Joseph â â 8 â â â â Richard â â 2 â â â â Janet â Daugh 11 â â â â Margt â â 5 â â Wm Rankin Lodger U 24 Sawer â â 19 â â Robt Grey Head Married 26 Coal Miner Campsey Janet â Wife 26 â â Do Barony John â Son 3 â â â â Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 11 9

1851 Census County of Lanark District of Middle Ward and Airdrie Within the Limits of the Parliamentary Boundary of the City or Burgh of Parish of Old Monkland No of Enumeration District 43 Description and Boundary of Enumeration District So much of the District of Gartsherrie quoad Sacra being formerly part of the parish of Old Monkland as lies South of the Glasgow and Carn kirk Railway consisting of that part of the Gartsherrie & state with the houses at Gartgill Gart loss, and others within that boundary North of the parish road going west from Gartsherrie South gate to Whitehill along the boundary of Cadder parish to garnqueen station on the Kirkentilloch and Monklands Railway South that line to Gartsherrie station on the Garnkirk & Glasgow Railway and there from by the private road to Gartsherrie south gate taking all the houses within the circle Page 1 No. of Householderâs Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 1 Gartsherrie House Mary Walker Cook Unmar 46 Cook Fifeshire Beath Janet Deans Servant â 32 Housemaid Haddington Janet Baird â â 26 Dairy Maid Old Monkland 2 Do Northgate John Allan Head Unmar 48 Teacher Reading Writing Arithmetic New Monkland John â Nephew 8 Scholar Dumbarton Cumbernauld Janet â Neice 6 Margt Hamilton Servant 47 House Keeper Old Monkland 3 Do, do Wm Johnstone Head Married 52 Rail Waggon Driver Ayrshire Cumnock Janet do Wife â 40 â â â Lanark Lesmahagow Ann â Daur 10 â â â Old Monkland Janet â â 8 â â â â â Alexr â Son 5 â â â â â James Main Lodger Married 34 Rail Waggon Driver Torphichen Mary â Wife â 21 â â â Muirkirk Total of Houses I1 Total of Persons 5 9 Page 2 No. of Householderâs Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 4 Gartsherrie North John Robin Head Mar 42 Farm Lab Barony Ann â Wife â 41 â â â Catherine â Daught 10 â â Old Monkland Wm â Son 8 Scholar â â â Alexr â â 7 Son â â â Donald â â 5 â â Violet â Daugh 1 â â James â Son U 20 Labourer Bothwell 5 Townhead Farm Wm Band Head Married 55 Farmer 40 acres employing 7 lab Old Monkland Janet do Wife â 50 â â â Margt â Daught U 24 â â â Jane â â â 20 â â â Robt â Son 19 â â â Christ â Daught 17 â â â John â Son 11 â â â Mary â Daught 8 â â â Henry â Son 4 â â â Thos McLean Servant 24 Farm Servant Ireland Wm Band Son 15 â â Old Monkland Total of Houses I2 Total of Persons 12 7 Page 3 No. of Householderâs Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 6 Townhead Martin McGurlie Head Married 25 Labourer County Tyrone Sarah do Wife â 25 â County Antrim Sarah do Daught 2 â Lanark John â Son 7m â â 7 â â Wm Heffron Head Married 20 Labourer County Mayo Rose â Wife â 21 â â 8 â â Janet Baird Widow Widow 82 Old Monkland 9 â â David Moffat Head Married 40 Gardiner Haddington Jane do Wife â 50 â â John â Son U 17 Blacksmith apprentice Bolton Helen â Daugh â 20 Dressmaker Pentland 10 â â Hugh Currens Head Married 37 Labourer Ireland Margt â Wife â 25 â â James â Son 5 â Old Monkland John â â 2 â â â Thos Brown Lodger Married 30 Hammerman Ireland Total of Houses I5 Total of Persons 9 7

Hi Listers, Before I send out this ED, I need to let you know just how unusually this enumerator approached his task. First, birthplace detail tends to be cryptic, although at times has more detail than usual, as in a few cases mentioning the county in Ireland of birth. Usually though, its just a parish or sometimes just a village name, with no county. The strangest habit though is that if the head of household is a coal miner, then his spouse and all his childreb, sometimes down to infants, are coal miners also! Obviously not the case. Well, at least he remembered to fill his pen with ink, which is more than I can says for some. Smile emoticon Jim Bundy

HI all Found whilst looking for passenger lists to America 1831 passenger list of Lesmahagow residents http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/lesmahagow1831.htm Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi there ... To search for 'property transactions' ( purchase, sale, lease, mortage ) at that period should be fairly easy ... You will need to visit either Hamilton or Lanark library - to consult the 'Sasine Abstracts' which are, I think, indexed by Persons and Places at that time ... The Abstracts contain a registration date, the names of the people involved, and a brief description of the land etc involved. They also have a Reference number which will let you ( should you have time to visit the GRO in Edinburgh ) find and get a copy of the Transaction Deed or document which will include layout plan etc. You can also order the copy remotely ... Maps ( large scale ) of the area can be viewed via the National Library of Scotland Maps Section website and copies obtained if required. This assumes that the property was 'owned' , and not part of a short term rental ... G Russell Carluke, S. Lanarkshire

G'day Tricia, I too have spent a couple of years looking for a Walter Paterson I believe mine became a Marine engineer or Locomotive builder. He was born in Peebles 1831 but I think he went to Leeds then Glasgow building Locomotives before he went to sea as a marine engineer. His 2 older Brothers migrated out here to Australia 1854. Any of this ring any bells with you? Regards Col

Hi Tricia, You're right in your supposition: New Ed Rd is indeed New Edinburgh Road, Uddingston and, while it still exists, so much has changed in the vicinity in the last 109 years. Brookesby is not a neighbourhood name, so it must have been the name of the house. I'll take a walk tomorrow and have a look at the names on the Victorian houses known locally as West Cottages. All the other buildings along New Ed Rd from the 1901 have disappeared, so fingers crossed. Regards, Ken Mathieson, Uddingston LKS ----- Original Message ----- From: "TRICIA" <tricia.datene@shaw.ca> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:25 PM Subject: [Lanark] Property and Tax Records I would like to find the location of my Great Grandfather's house as listed in the 1901 census. His name was Walter Paterson, and he is listed in the census as living at "Brookesby, New Ed Rd", Uddingston, Bothwell, Lanarkshire. There is no house number given. I am thinking that "New Ed Rd" is an abbreviation for New Edinburgh Rd. Does anyone know where would I find property records (property taxes, deeds, etc.) for this property? I am coming to Scotland in June for a visit, and would like to be able to find out more. Tricia Datené Port Alberni, BC, Canada ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2685 - Release Date: 02/13/10 08:43:00

I would like to find the location of my Great Grandfather's house as listed in the 1901 census. His name was Walter Paterson, and he is listed in the census as living at "Brookesby, New Ed Rd", Uddingston, Bothwell, Lanarkshire. There is no house number given. I am thinking that "New Ed Rd" is an abbreviation for New Edinburgh Rd. Does anyone know where would I find property records (property taxes, deeds, etc.) for this property? I am coming to Scotland in June for a visit, and would like to be able to find out more. Tricia Datené Port Alberni, BC, Canada

Hi Glen, Thank you very much for looking. I have the 1841 census for this couple – 1841 census Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire - Aughtifardle-gate 649 Ed 8, page 4. H Aitken 35 M Scotland Gardiner Ann Aitken 35 F Scotland David Aitken 13 M Scotland Cotton HLW Ap John Aitken 12 M Scotland James Aitken 11 M Lanarkshire, Scotland Daniel Aitken 7 M Scotland William Aitken 2 M Lanarkshire, Scotland Alexander Aitken 10 days M Lanarkshire, Scotland In the above census James jnr should be 5 yrs the child that would have been 11 was Alexander but he died 1 day before the second Alexander was born. And I have the 1861 census for them. Ann died in 1865 and James and the last remaining children left in Scotland emigrated to Australia. It is her birth that has me stuck. I have already gone through www.ancestralscotland.com/roots/ and spent my 30 credits. I may have to use the credit card  Thank you again for trying. Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King) Melb, Vic ________________________________________ From: Glen [mailto:oorwill@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, 13 February 2010 11:57 AM To: Pat Wade Subject: Wade: Hi Pat, This is the 1841 Census for Ann Aitken. If she was still married it would not be listed under her maiden name. Not sure of her children's names but if you could give me more details, I'll see what I can dig up. Also if you go to www.ancestralscotland.com/roots/ fill in the details, it will get you 30 free credits to search for her to find her parents. Glen