Hello List I have just received a death certificate and the death took place at Airbles House ,Motherwell , in brackets it has usual residence Victoria Home, Motherwell. could SKS describe these two places were they Poor Houses ,Hospitals etc, Thank you in Advance Bob

Page 9 1805 James Arnot tailor & Merchant in Shotts and Mary Pollock Spouses, had a Daughter born upon Tuesday the 12th day of March & Baptised upon Sunday the 24th and Named Elisabeth Arnot 1805 James Lowden farmer in Little Hairshaw and Betty Strang Spouses had Twins born there upon Tuesday the 12th day of March, both Girls and Baptised upon Monday the 25th same month The oldest Named Betty Lowden The youngest Named Marion Lowden 1802 William Taylor and Jean Adie his Spouses, had a Daughter born upon the (blank) day of Octr and Baptised and Named Margaret Taylor 1804 William Taylor and Jean Adie his lawful Wife, residing at Barblues had a Son born there upon the 25th Jany and Baptised and Named John 1805 David McAlpin Coalier at Knownoble and Helen Nish Spouses, a Son born Sunday March 10th and Baptised Sunday the 31st and Named Thomas McAlpin 1805 John Laurie farmer in Duntillon and Elisabeth Dick his lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there upon the 2d day of April and Baptised in the Church here Named Janet Laurie 1805 John Muir coalier at Knownoble and Agnes Russell his lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon the (blank) day of April, and Baptised in the Church here and Named John Muir 1805 William Johnstone tenant in Brownknow in the Lands of Duntillon and Elisabeth Sawers his lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there upon the 12th day of April & Baptised and Named Janet Johnstone 1805 John Sym tenant in Merchanthall and Janet Smart his lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Monday the 22nd April and Baptised the 19th May & Named Janet Sym 1805 Claud Storrie servant Greenhill & Margaret Stirling his lawful Spouses had a Daughter Born there Friday the 2nd May and Baptised & Named Mary Storrie Page 10 1805 Gavin Russell weaver in Salisbury or Muiriehall and Margaret Watt his lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon the Ninth day of April and Baptised in the Church here and Named Gavin Russell 1805 James Reid shoemaker in Shotts and Violet Hay his lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there Sunday the 19th May and Baptised in the Church here upon Sunday the 16th June & Named Jean Reid 1805 John Russell labourer near Spindleside and Marion Martin his lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon Thursday the 23d May and Baptised by the Revd Mr Hislop the 16th June and Named John Russell 1805 John Greenhorn coalier at Shotts Iron Works and Janet White Spouses had a Son born there upon Saturday the 25th May and Baptised in the Church Sunday the 16th June and Named James Greenhorn 1805 George Swan coalier at Bonhar and Alison Gilone his lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon Saturday the 25 May & Baptised in the Church here 16 June & Named James Swan 1805 John Cuthbertson or Culbertson labourer at Shotts Iron Works & Catherine Hamilton Spouses had a Son born there upon the (blank) the of May and Baptised in the Church here the 16 June & Named John Cuthbertson 1805 Roderick Campbell coalier at Shotts Iron Works & Margaret (blank) Spouses had a Daughter born there the 26th May and Baptised in the Church here & Named Janet Campbell 1805 Charles Cowen coalier at Omoa Iron Works & Elisabeth Watson Spouses had a Daughter born at Knownoble upon Monday the 17 June and Baptised Wednesday the 19th and Named Agnes Cowan 1805 James Inglis shoemaker & Feuar in Omoa New Town and Janet Nisbet his lawful Spouses had a Son born the 26th day of Feby and Baptised and Named Thomas Inglis 1805 James Inglis in Wester house of Mardostown and Margt Davidson Spouses had a Son born upon Tuesday the 12th Feby & Baptised & Named John Inglis Page 11 1805 Mr James Walker portr of Rosshall and Mrs Margt Steell his lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon Tuesday the 11th day of June & Baptised & Named John Walker 1805 Thomas Thomson servant in South Ridge and Agnes Fairlie his lawful Spouses had a Son born there Saturday the 8th June and Baptised in the Church here Sunday the 30th same month and Named James Thomson 1805 William Kirk smith at Shotts Iron Works and Janet Steell his lawful Wife had a son Born there upon Saturday the 15th June & Baptised in the Church here upon Friday the 5th July being the fast day before the Communion and Named John Kirk 1805 John Meikle smith Middle hill & Margaret Struthers Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Thursday the 13th day of June & Baptised in the Church here Sunday the 14th July & Named Margaret Meikle 1805 Robert Barr coalhewer in Salisbury and Margaret Black Spouses had a daughter born there saturday the 22nd June & Baptised Monday the 8th July & Named Jean Barr 1805 Alexr McLuckie coalhewer Shotts Iron Works & Janet Allan Spouses had a Son born there Sunday the 7th July and Baptised in the Church here Sunday the 14th eodem mense & Named John McLuckie 1805 John Forest in Murdoston Miln and Margaret Barrie Spouses had a Son born there upon Sunday being the 30th day of June and Baptised upon Thursday the 18th July and named John Forrest 1804 Robert Russell clerk at Shotts Iron Works & Catherine Gray Spouses had a Son born there Thursday being the 28th day of October & Baptised and Named Archibald Russell November deleted & Octr Substituted in per Inouriam by S M Sess Clk page 12

Page 10 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 32 Passover Row No 10 John Guy Head Mar 27 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Glasgow Janet do Wife Mar 26 East Lothian Dunbar James do Son 6 Lanarkshire Gartsherrie John do Son 4 Do Coatbridge Janet do Daur 2 Do Gartsherrie 33 Passover Row No 9 Thomas Oliver Head Mar 35 Coal Labourer Stirlingshire St Ninians Elisabeth do Wife Mar 35 Perthshire Port of Montieth Thomas do Son 10 Do Thornhill William do Son 9 Do, do Elisabeth do Daur 5 Lanarkshire Gartsherrie Christian do Daur 2 Do, do 34 Passover Row No 8 David Kelly Head Unmarried 22 Coal Miner Ireland Mary do Mother Widow 49 House Keeper Do 35 Passover Row No 7 James McNiel Head U 28 Coal Miner Do William do Brother U 26 Do Do Tomson do Step mother Widow 65 House keeper Do Archibald Chalmers Lodger U 33 Coal Miner Do 36 Passover Row No 6 Michael Monohen Head 40 Coal Miner Do Total of Houses I5 Total of Persons 11 7 Page 11 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 37 Passover Row No 5 James Guy Head Mar 50 Coal Miner Ireland Henry do Son U 15 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Glasgow Samuel do Son 11 Do Do Chryston Mary do Daur 9 Do Gartsherrie Elisabeth Boyd Lodger W 38 Ireland Hugh Cunningham Lodger 8 Do Alexander do Do 2 Lanarkshire Gartsherrie Elisabeth do Do 1 Do, do 38 Passover Row No 4 James Gibson Head U 21 Coal Pit Bottomer Ayrshire Muirkirk Christian do Mother W 50 Dumfries Kirkconnel John do Brother U 17 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Mossvail 39 Passover Row No 2 John Baxter Head Mar 31 Coal Miner Do Westmuir Agness do Wife Mar 31 Do Glasgow David do Son 9 Do Westmuir Janet do Daur 6 Do, do John do Son 4 Do Old Monkland Douglas do Son 2 Do, do 40 Passover Row No 1 Thomas Campbell Head Mar 30 Coal Miner Ireland Mary do Wife Mar 25 Do Jane do Daur 1 Lanarkshire Old Monkland Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 12 8 Page 12 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 41 Passover Cottage James Dowrie Head Mar 28 Railway Pointsman Wigtonshire Elisabeth do Wife Mar 24 Dumfries Sanquhar Margaret do Daur 2 Lanarkshire Calder Thomas do Son 1mo Do Old Monkland James Kerr Visitor U 31 Mason Dumfries Dunscore John Crosbie Do U 26 Do Do Glencairn John McNair Do U 18 Engine Cleaner Lanarkshire Barony Janet Mitchell Serv U 14 House Servant Do Old Monkland 42 Rowmone Quaryhouse William Jervie Head Mar 50 Coal Check Kirkintilloch Margaret do Wife Mar 54 Lanarkshire Calder William do Son U 24 Porter Do, do Walter do Son U 18 Railway Labourer Do, do Ann do Daur U 16 Do Old Monkland Margaret do Daur 14 Do, do 43 Passover Andrew Black Head Mar 52 General Dealer Lanarkshire Airdrie Jane do Wife Mar 44 Do Old Monkland 44 Passover Hugh Thom Head Mar 65 Hand Loom Weaver pauper Do Calder Janet do Wife Mar 72 Clachen Nairnside Hugh do Grandson 10 Scholar at Home Lanarkshire Old Monkland Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 11 8 Page 13 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 45 Passover Cottage John Ross Head Mar 62 Fund Holder Glasgow Barony Janet do Wife Mar 45 Do, do Janet do Daur 6mo Old Monkland Uphema Mann Serv U 16 House Servant Renfrew Govan 46 Passover Cottage James Beach Head Widr 52 Pauper, Formerly Coal Check Renfrew Govan Margaret Wood Housekeeper Wid 56 Housekeeper formerly the Servant Do Barony Total of Houses I2 Total of Persons 2 4

Page 7 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 22 Beach Row No 10 James Davies Head Mar 37 Coal Miner Campsie Jane do Wife Mar 36 Biggar Anne do Daur 12 Lanarkshire Barony Francis do Son 10 Coal Miner Do, do Robert do Son 8 Do, do Jane do Daur 6 Do, do Charlotte Daur 3 Do, do 24 Beach Row No 8 Susanna Higgins Head Mar 40 Coal Miner's Wife Ireland 25 Beach Row No 7 Hugh McKogan Head Widower 40 Coal Miner Stirlingshire Campsie Ann do Daur U 13 Dumbarton Kirkentilloch Catheran do Daur 12 Do, do Hugh do Son 10 Lanarkshire New Monkland Mary do Daur 7 Do, do Isabella do Daur 5 Do, do John Campbell Step son U 16 Coal Miner Dumbarton Kirkentilloch Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 6 9 Page 8 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 26 Beach Row No 6 Charles Miller Head Widower 45 Coal Miner Paisley William do Son 15 Do Ayr John do Son 13 Do Nilston Mary do Daur 11 Ayr Nathaniel do Son 8 Do James do Son 6 Do Margaret do Daur 4 Old Monkland 27 Beach Row No 5 James Jack Head Mar 32 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Airdrie Ann do Wife Mar 36 Ireland Ann McFarlan Step Daur 13 Scholar at Home Lanarkshire Glasgow Agnes Jack Daur 8 Scholar Stirling Town Eliza do Daur 7 Do England Jessie do Daur 5 Do Do Total of Houses I2 Total of Persons 6 7 Page 9 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 28 Beach Row No 4 Thomas Baird Head Mar 45 Coal Miner Campsie Helen do Wife Mar 39 Do John do Son 14 Coal Miner Do Daniel do Son 12 Do Lanarkshire Barony Robert do Son 10 Scholar Do Old Monkland Thomas do Son 7 Do Campsie Francies do Son 5 Do David do Son 1 Do 29 Beach Row No 3 Thomas Gilespie Head Mar 24 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Old Monkland Janet do Wife Mar 22 Do Bridgtown 30 Beach Row No 2 John Ramsay Head Mar 32 Railway Pointsman Midlothian Edinburgh Mary do Wife Mar 29 Lanarkshire Lesmahagow Retchel S do Daur 2 Do New Monkland Alexander do Son 9mo Do Old Monkland Harrot Lamb Cusin 10 Errand Girl Do, do 31 Beach Row No 1 Uninhabited Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 11 4

Page 4 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 12 Gartsherrie Cottage Alexander Buckham Head Mar 40 Land Stewart Barrieskshire Smailholm Elisabeth do Wife Mar 41 England 13 Gartsherrie David Sharp Head U 31 Wood Forrester C Perth Fowlis Wester 14 Little Gartsherrie Robert Donald Head Mar 51 Ploughman C Renfrew Kilbarchan Ann do Wife Mar 50 Dumbarton Cumbernauld Mary do Daur 9 Lanarkshire Calder Robert do Son 6 Do, do 15 Gartsherrie Cottage Porter Lodge Thomas Calder Head Mar 50 Coal Check Stirlingshire Balmore Mary do Wife Mar 40 Lanarkshire Old Monkland 17 Beach Row No 15 Thomas Downie Head Mar 25 Coal Miner Ireland Sarah do Wife Mar 25 Ireland James Hagins Lodger Mar 24 Coal Miner Do Margaret do Do Mar 25 Do Ann do Daur 5mo Lanarkshire Old Monkland Total of Houses I5 Total of Persons 7 7 Page 5 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 16 Beach Row No 16 John McHutcheson Head Mar 33 Coal Miner Ireland Mary do Wife Mar 35 Ireland Mary do Daur 16 Do David do Son 14 Coal Miner Do Samuel do Son 11 Scholar Do Sarah do Daur 9 Do Do James do Son 7 Do Do John do Son 3 Lanarkshire New Monkland Martha do Daur 1 Do John Smellie Lodger Mar 24 Coal Miner Ireland Hanah do Wife Mar 23 Do James do Son 8 Scholar Do Hanah do Daur 2 Lanarkshire New Monkland 18 Beach Row No 14 James Rowan Head Mar 38 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Barony Mary do Wife Mar 36 Do Margaret do Daur 9 Scholar Do John Donaldson Orphan 5 Scholar Do Old Monkland John Barber Boarder U 21 Coal Miner Do Barony Andrew Barber Do U 19 Coal Miner Do, do Total of Houses I2 Total of Persons 11 8 Page 6 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 19 Beach Row No 13 Janet Martin Head Widow 29 Laundress pauper Renfrew Bridge of Weir Margaret do Daur 11 Scholar Lanarkshire Old Monkland William do Son 9 Scholar Do, do James do Son 4 Do, do Andrew do Son 3 Do, do 20 Beach Row No 12 John McRose Head Mar 31 Coal Miner Stirlingshire Banton Margaret do Wife Mar 24 Lanarkshire Airdrie William J M do Son 6 Scholar Do Coatbridge Martha Daur 2 Do Holytown Janet Daur 2mo Do Beach Row 21 Beach Row No 11 James Johnstone Head Mar 22 Coal Miner Lanarkshire Old Monkland Mary do Wife Mar 19 Do Airdrie John Walker Wife's brother U 14 Coal Miner Do, do James Johnston Son 4mo Do Beach Row 23 Beach Row No 9 William Neilson Head Widower 42 Coal Miner Do Westmuir Elisabeth do Daur 12 Do Cambuslang John do Son 6 Do, do William do Son 3 Bailieston Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 11 7

1851 Census County of Lanark District of Middle Ward and Airdrie Within the Limits of the Parliamentary Boundary of the City or Burgh of Parish of Old Monkland No of Enumeration District 44 Description and Boundary of Enumeration District So much of the District of Gartsherrie quoad Sacra being formerly part of the parish of Old Monkland as lies to the East of Monkland and Kirkintilloch Railway, and North of the Gartsherrie Burn containing Beach Row Passover Row, with that part of Gartsherrie Estate within that boundary Page 1 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 1 Rawmone Gavin Black Head Mar 50 Farmer of 130 acres Lanarkshire New Monkland Margaret do Wife Mar 38 Do Old Monkland John Black Widr 89 Retired Farmer Do New Monkland Janet Martin Niece U 18 Kirkentilloch parish Charles Smillie Serv U 22 Farm Servant Do Old Monkland John Lamb Serv U 16 Do Edinburgh 2 Castle Speale James Haldane Head Mar 50 Mason Ayrshire Colmonell Agness do Wife Mar 37 Lanarkshire Old Monkland James do Son U 16 Do, do Mary do Daur U 9 Scholar Do, do Janet C do Daur U 7 Do Do, do Alexander do Son 4 Do, do Margaret do Daur 2 Do, do Jane do Daur 2mo Do, do 3 Muirdyke Smithy James Spaldane Head Unmarried 31 Blacksmith Journeyman Perthshire Rattray William Reid Lodger U 21 Do, do Do, do 4 Burnlip Robert Dykes Head Mar 65 Tile Work Labourer Lanarkshire Rutherglen Jane do Wife Mar 53 Rosshire Gairloch Arthur McCormick Lodger U 18 Tile Work Lab Ireland Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 11 8 Page 2 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 5 Gartvire Cottage Joseph Sharp Head Mar 36 Game Keeper Dumfriesshire Closeburn Mary do Wife Mar 36 Lanarkshire Calder Agness do Daur 8 Do New Monkland John do Son 3 Do Old Monkland Joseph do Son 1 Do, do 6 Gartverrie Robert Thom Head U 45 Farmer of 90 acres Lanarkshire Old Monkland John do Brother U 40 Cos of do Do, do Gavin Cullen Serv U 30 Farm Servant Do, do Ritchard do Do U 17 Do, do Do, do Helen Clydsdal Do U 13 Do Dalry Do New Monkland Janet Bell Do U 11 Herd Do Old Monkland 7 Gartleston Gavin Shanks Head Mar 67 Farmer of 100 acres Lanarkshire New Monkland Agness do Wife Mar 60 Do, do Mary do Daur U 38 Do Old Monkland Robert do Son U 35 Do, do James do Son U 27 Do, do Gavin do Son U 22 Drapery Salesman & Post Office Assistant Do, do Agness do Daur U 20 Do, do Janet Thom Visitor Widow 74 UK Do Slamannan William Gibson Serv U 14 Farm Servant Dumbarton Cadder Total of Houses I3 Total of Persons 12 8 Page 3 No. of Householder's Schedule Names of Street, Place, or Road, and Name or No. of House Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house, on the Night of the 30th March, 1851 Relation to Head of Family Condition Age of Males Age of Females Rank, Profession, or Occupation Where Born Whether Blind, or Deaf-and-Dumb 8 Gartliston Row No 4 John Hill Head Mar 38 Railway Labourer Stirlingshire Polmont Isobella do Wife Mar 42 Do Campsie 9 Gartliston No 3 Duncan McGillvery Head Mar 38 Railway Pointsman Argylshire Ardnamurchen Mary do Wife Mar 31 Lanarkshire Barony Christina do Daur U 10 Do Cadder John do Son U 8 Scholar Do Old Monkland Daniel do Son U 5 Do Cadder Charles do Son 3 Do Old Monkland James do Son 1 Do, do 10 Gartliston Row No 2 John Rankin Head Mar 40 Coal Trimer Lanarkshire Old Monkland Barbara do Wife Mar 35 Midlothian Edinburgh Joseph do Son U 16 Iron work Labourer Lanarkshire Old Monkland Andrew do Son U 13 Sand Quary do Do, do Harret do Daur 11 Do, do Mary do Daur 5 Do, do Ann J do Daur 2 Do, do 11 Gartliston Row No 1 Moses Watson Head Mar 30 Farm Labourer Ireland Mary do Wife Mar 33 Do Francis Hervay Visitor U 35 Farm Labourer Do Total of Houses I4 Total of Persons 11 8

Hello again Michael, Your James left Tasmania and went to Sydney. Family & given name Ship of Departure Date of Departure Port of Departure Where Bound Ship to the Colony Status References Paton James Thomas Lord 18 Oct 1847 Launceston Sydney Katherine Stewart Forbes Free by servitude POL459/1/2 p114 Lorraine Standfield. ----- Original Message ----- From: CandROverson To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Transportation: James PATON Hi Michael I have found some information about your James Paton. His convict ship, the Katherine Stewart Forbes, sailed from London on 21 February 1832 and arrived in Tasmania (probably Hobart) on 16 July. When he arrived in Tasmania he was assigned to "public work". Convicts were assigned to various tasks - the worst being the road or chain gangs. They could be assigned to work for free Tasmanians. I don't know quite what "Public work" would involve but James was presumably not fit enough to do anything involving hard physical labour. He is described as a "cripple".

Hello Michael, Here is a basic record from the Archives office of Tasmania. If you Google Archives office of Tasmania (Australia) you can do a search under convicts and you be able to get to digitised convict records and see for yourself possibly the convict's description etc. Lorraine Standfield, Victoria, Australia. Convict Details Paton, James Convict No: 55089 Extra Identifier: SEE Surname: SEE Given Names: Voyage Ship: Katherine Stewart Forbes Voyage No: 95 Arrival Date: 16 Jul 1832 Departure Date: 26 Feb 1832 Departure Port: London Conduct Record: CON31/1/35 Muster Roll: Appropriation List: CON27/1/5 Other Records: Indent: Description List: CON18/1/10 p73 Remarks: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael paton" <voyager87@gmail.com> > To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Transportation > > > > Hi Rhoda > > Thanks for the lookup offer. Here is the passage that pertains to him; > > > > James Paton, convicted at Glasgow Circuit > > Court for"theft-habit and repute". Gaoler's > report: > > character bad, convicted before. > > his father brought him up honestly; > > prisoner > > has paralysis on the left side of his body > > rendering > > him > > unable to work; was merely used as a machine for > > perpetrating those crimes by others as he has an > > imbecility of mind and because he could not have > > devised > > them himself. Initial sentence: 14 years > > transportation. > > Annotated: 'Nil'. AW 8 [Scot]. > > Covering dates1831 Sept > > > > I don't know if imbecility of mind is medical or his father's > opinion. > > ;O) About the 14 yrs Transportation, I'm wondering if "nil" means they > > just > > let him go? > > Regards > > Michael

Michael, There is a death of a James Craig PATON on 27 Oct 1877 registered Hobart. Ref. 1877/805/35. Marriages - 21 Oct 1869 James Craig PATON, adult, male Eliza SPEAKMAN, adult Reg. Hobart 1869/190/37 There were children born of this marriage if it happens to be the right James Paton. Also at the National Library of Australia website the newspapers of Tasmania and Hobart have been beta digitised. http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/titles?state=Tasmania these newspapers are great reading and often give details from the government as to TOLs, Certificates of Freedom etc. The Tasmanian Archives have digitised Convict Conduct Books and other references. Check the Colonial familiies page for any details of James and a possible family. Regards Jenny Lake Macquarie NSW Aus

Hi Michael I have found some information about your James Paton. His convict ship, the Katherine Stewart Forbes, sailed from London on 21 February 1832 and arrived in Tasmania (probably Hobart) on 16 July. When he arrived in Tasmania he was assigned to "public work". Convicts were assigned to various tasks - the worst being the road or chain gangs. They could be assigned to work for free Tasmanians. I don't know quite what "Public work" would involve but James was presumably not fit enough to do anything involving hard physical labour. He is described as a "cripple". He had received his Ticket of Leave by 1841. A Ticket of Leave (TOL) was issued to convicts who had a record of good or goodish behaviour in the colony. It was a bit like probation. Convicts with TOLS were free to move around the colony and work for themselves but had to attend 'convict musters' which were held once a year, I think. He was declared "Free by servitude" in 1847 i.e. he had served his time. I am not too sure what happened to him after that. He may have returned to the UK, but convicts had to make their own way back to the UK. The British Government did nothing to help them do this. They were quite happy to offload all their 'bad eggs' in Australia. I am attaching links to various digitised documents on the Tasmanian Archives Convicts Database. These are digitised records of the originals, and the handwriting can be difficult to read. The first of these documents is the Convict's Conduct Record which is a summary of his offence and his conduct in Tasmania. I found it difficult to read the faint scrawling handwriting, and there are various shorthand terms with which I am not too familiar. But it looks as if James went absent without leave for an extended period (good for him!). The second document is called the "Appropriation Record". This gives the name, age and 'civilian' occupation of the convict and where he has been assigned. In the case of your James there is no indication here that he was assigned anywhere. The third document is the Convict's Description. James is recorded as James Patten on this record. Once you have looked at these, I am quite happy to try to answer any questions. There is a Rootsweb List devoted to Tasmanian convicts, to which I subscribe. You might find it useful. http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON31-1-35,271,102,L,80 http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON27-1-5,126,20,L,80 http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON18-1-10,252,40,L,80 Regards Rhoda

Hi Michael I'm afraid they didn't let him go. He was transported to Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania) on the Katherine Stewart Forbes on 21 February 1832. (Perhaps he met my GGG Grandfather who was transported for life to Tasmania in 1836). I will see what other information they have about him on Ancestry and get back to you later. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael paton" <voyager87@gmail.com> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Transportation > Hi Rhoda > Thanks for the lookup offer. Here is the passage that pertains to him; > > James Paton, convicted at Glasgow Circuit > Court for"theft-habit and repute". Gaoler's report: > character bad, convicted before. > his father brought him up honestly; > prisoner > has paralysis on the left side of his body > rendering > him > unable to work; was merely used as a machine for > perpetrating those crimes by others as he has an > imbecility of mind and because he could not have > devised > them himself. Initial sentence: 14 years > transportation. > Annotated: 'Nil'. AW 8 [Scot]. > Covering dates1831 Sept > > I don't know if imbecility of mind is medical or his father's opinion. > ;O) About the 14 yrs Transportation, I'm wondering if "nil" means they > just > let him go? > Regards > Michael >

Hi Michael In 1831 he would have been transported to Australia. What was his name? I can look him up on Ancestry's convict records. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael paton" <voyager87@gmail.com> To: <LANARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:02 PM Subject: [Lanark] Transportation > Hello List > > Does anyone know if where this man would have been sent, if at all? > Court was in Glasgow and the year was 1831. > > > Initial sentence: 14 years transportation.

Thankyou Rhoda. Michael On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:02 AM, CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com>wrote: > Hi Michael > > I'm afraid they didn't let him go. He was transported to Van Diemen's Land > (Tasmania) on the Katherine Stewart Forbes on 21 February 1832. (Perhaps > he > met my GGG Grandfather who was transported for life to Tasmania in 1836). > I > will see what other information they have about him on Ancestry and get > back > to you later. > > Rhoda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael paton" <voyager87@gmail.com> > To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Lanark] Transportation > > > > Hi Rhoda > > Thanks for the lookup offer. Here is the passage that pertains to him; > > > > James Paton, convicted at Glasgow Circuit > > Court for"theft-habit and repute". Gaoler's > report: > > character bad, convicted before. > > his father brought him up honestly; > > prisoner > > has paralysis on the left side of his body > > rendering > > him > > unable to work; was merely used as a machine for > > perpetrating those crimes by others as he has an > > imbecility of mind and because he could not have > > devised > > them himself. Initial sentence: 14 years > > transportation. > > Annotated: 'Nil'. AW 8 [Scot]. > > Covering dates1831 Sept > > > > I don't know if imbecility of mind is medical or his father's > opinion. > > ;O) About the 14 yrs Transportation, I'm wondering if "nil" means they > > just > > let him go? > > Regards > > Michael > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List I have been trying for 3 days now to find these two families , they become two when their children marry . I was kindly sent a marriage certificate for the marriage of Alexander Reid son of James Reid and Janet Hamilton, and Elizabeth McIntyre daughter of Hugh McIntyre and Elizabeth Gillies. The couple married on the 29th December 1883 in Bridgeton. Hugh McIntyre was Deceased at the time of the Marriage and Elizabeth McIntyre had remarried to a William Hamilton, ( I wonder if there is a connection between Alexanders mother Janet Hamilton and William Hamilton) I found Elizabeth on the 1881 census , living with her mother shown as Mrs Hamilton but have not found her with her mother in 61 or 71. Does SKS have knowledge of these families . Thank you In Advance Bob

Hi Rhoda Thanks for the lookup offer. Here is the passage that pertains to him; James Paton, convicted at Glasgow Circuit Court for"theft-habit and repute". Gaoler's report: character bad, convicted before. his father brought him up honestly; prisoner has paralysis on the left side of his body rendering him unable to work; was merely used as a machine for perpetrating those crimes by others as he has an imbecility of mind and because he could not have devised them himself. Initial sentence: 14 years transportation. Annotated: 'Nil'. AW 8 [Scot]. Covering dates1831 Sept I don't know if imbecility of mind is medical or his father's opinion. ;O) About the 14 yrs Transportation, I'm wondering if "nil" means they just let him go? Regards Michael On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:12 AM, CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com>wrote: > Hi Michael > > In 1831 he would have been transported to Australia. What was his name? I > can look him up on Ancestry's convict records. > > Rhoda >

Seeking help from anyone researching the John McFadyen and Sarah Lawson line in Glasgow. I know they had at least three living children; Mary 1800, Margaret 1807 and Joseph 1811. Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks in advance Russ Miller

Hello List Does anyone know if where this man would have been sent, if at all? Court was in Glasgow and the year was 1831. Initial sentence: 14 years transportation. Annotated: 'Nil'.

Tricia Have you got her death certificate? That should give you the names of her parents. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "TRICIA" <tricia.datene@shaw.ca> To: <LANARK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:53 PM Subject: [Lanark] Agnes Campbell - Brick Wall I have a brick wall that I would like some help with. My 2^nd G.G. was AGNES CAMPBELL. She was born 1821 in Inverkip, Renfrewshire, and died 15 Feb 1904 in Glasgow. She married ROBERT CAMPBELL PATERSON on 11 Jul 1841 in Glasgow, Lanark.

I sent it to her plus the usual listings but it was too long to post here. Don -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CandROverson Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 6:36 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Agnes Campbell - Brick Wall Tricia Have you got her death certificate? That should give you the names of her parents. Rhoda

HI Everyone, I have worked on the indexing of the Glasgow and Lanarkshire Poor-relief applications over the years. I just want everyone to know that there has been some changes very recently, and, some historical records have been moved to the appropriate Local Authorities (this includes any surviving Poor-relief applications, School records etc.) The main ones are listed below: Kirkintilloch, New Kilpatrick and Cadder are now with EAST DUNBARTONSHIRE ARCHIVES. Bothwell, Cambusnethan, Dalziel, New Monkland, Old Monkland and Shotts are now with NORTH LANARKSHIRE ARCHIVES. Glasgow City, Govan and Barony remain with Glasgow City Archives as do records pertaining to South Lanarkshire (for the time being) I hope this will be of some assistance to anyone looking for the records in Glasgow. Des Garrity NEW 1861 Census Index on CD www.desgarrity.co.uk/61c.html www.desgarrity.co.uk E-Mail: weeruglonian@sky.com