Hi I am trying to locate the WEST YETT FARM. On the 1851 census it is listed under the Parish of Carnwath. It is shown between the farms of Westdyke and Westshieto . There is no other identification on the page that might suggest where they are located in the Parish. I cannot find West Yett on any map that I have or on Google. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks Frank Easton Sherwood Park Alberta Canada +6c

Hello List I am seeking an Alexander Reid ,Alexander was the son of James Reid and Janet Hamilton who were married in New Monkland IGI M116516 the record gives the date as Sep 1845. Alexander gives his age as 25 on his marriage certificate on 29th Dec 1883 to Elizabeth McIntyre . I have just run out of Credits on Scotlands People. I found 8 Alexander Reids on the 1861 census the youngest was 1 the oldest 62. I tried the 6 year old first, wrong parents ,the 14 year old gave the same results. If SKS has access to the 1861 census could they please find the family of James Reid and Janet M.S. Hamilton on the 1861 or the 1851. Thank you in Advance Bob

Good Afternoon Does anyone know if St Mungo cemetery common ground is in the Necropolis now. I assume this would be an unmarked grave. Samuel Paton was buried there in 1841. Michael

Hi Douglas The service records for anyone who served in WW2 (including those records for those who also served in WW1) are not available to the general public , if memory serves its 2020 when they are released You can apply for them (charge was £30 last I heard) if you are the next of kin and the person concerned is deceased (proof is requested) the serviceman themselves would get them free If you want more on that let me know Regarding your war bride, first they would most likely have married Britain and may appear in the passenger lists on findmypast (outgoing) many also came back for visits or permanently and may appear in Ancestrys passenger lists (incoming) It may also be worth searching for specific ships associations Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Hello Nivard Thanks for your reply. As mentioned in my letter I have two other naval relatives to investigate. One is my wife's grandfather who served on the HMS Vindictive in WW2 but it is unknown what ship he served on in WW1 (his brother, Archibald, was killed at Arras with the South African Infantry. His son named Archibald was a bomber pilot in WW2). The other naval query relates to my father's cousin. I don't know which ship he served on but I remember his wife relating the story of her self along hundreds of other "war brides" arriving in South Africa after the war. Thanks again. Douglas

page 12 1805 John Dalziel farmer in Swinstie and Ann Bell his Lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Thursday the 25th day of July and Baptised upon Tuesday the 6th August and Named Jean Dalziel 1805 John Lowden weaver in Bentfoot of Murdostown and Mary Storrie Spouses had a Daughter born there upon the 4th day of March being Monday & Baptised & Named Janet Lowden 1805 Robert Lowden tenant in Pentecockee and Margaret King Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Monday the 29th day of April & Baptised and Named Margaret Lowden James Wardrope weaver in Salisbury alias Muiriehall & Mary Watt his Lawful Spouses had a Son born there upon Saturday the 29th day of June & Baptised & Named James Wardrope 1805 John Clyde tenant in Jersie & Christian Gourlie his lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there upon the 1st day of Feby & Baptised & Named Christian Clyde 1805 John Brown in Rosshall and Jean Dalziel Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Tuesday the 13th August and Baptised the 2nd Septmr and Named Christian Brown 1805 Duncan Thornton in Hirst Mains and Janet Anderson Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Wednesday the 14th August & Baptised Sunday the 25th and Named Christian Thornton 1805 James Paterson in Knownoble Hill and Jean Cumming Daughter of Mr John Cumming of Crosshall Spouses had a Daughter born there Saturday the 24th Augt and Baptised Sunday the 25th and Named Martha Paterson 1804 James Hamilton weaver in Foulburn and Janet Inglis Spouses had a Daughter born there upon the 13th day of Apl and Baptised & Named Marion Hamilton Page 13 1805 Thomas Orr farmer in Lone of Harthill and Elisabeth Binning his lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Monday the 29th day of May & Baptised and Named Elisabeth Orr 1805 James Morton tenant in Hall and Marion Heinshaw Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Monday the 19th Augt and Baptised Sunday the 15th Septmr and Named Mary Morton 1805 Robert Smellie tenant in Wester Baton and Janet Thomson Spouses had a Son born there (?)day the 5th day of Septmr and Baptised by the Revd Mr Hislop Sunday the 8th and Named Thomas Smellie 1805 Alexr Brownlee cooper Shaws Townfoot and Christian Bryce Spouses had a Son born there upon the Seventh day of Feby and Baptised and Named Alexander Brownlee 1805 George Kerr, Tenant in Caplee and Jean Graham Spouse had a Daughter born there upon Monday the 13th May and Baptised & Named Marion Kerr 1805 Alexander Reid coalhewer att Shotts Iron Works and Helen Simson Spouses had a Son born there upon Sunday the 1st day of September and Baptised in the Church here on Sunday the 15th same Month & Named Francis Reid 1801 Alexander Marshall servant to William Waddell Esqr of Easter Moffat & Christian Scott Spouses had a Son born at Craigend of Easter Moffat & Baptised and vizt born 6th Jany Named Thomas Marshall 1803 Alexander Marshall servant to William Waddell Esqr of Easter Moffat and Christian Scott Spouses had a Daughter born at Craigend of Easter Moffat the 10th Septmr & Baptised & Named Agnes Marshall 1805 John Wark labourer in Harthill and (J?)anet Thomson Spouses had a Son born there on Sunday the 30th day of June & Baptised & Named William Wark Page 14

Hello Nivard Thanks for your reply. As mentioned in my letter I have two other naval relatives to investigate. One is my wife's grandfather who served on the HMS Vindictive in WW2 but it is unknown what ship he served on in WW1 (his brother, Archibald, was killed at Arras with the South African Infantry. His son named Archibald was a bomber pilot in WW2). The other naval query relates to my father's cousin. I don't know which ship he served on but I remember his wife relating the story of her self along hundreds of other "war brides" arriving in South Africa after the war. Thanks again. Douglas -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 25 February 2010 08:55 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com; holmessandra719@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] Navy Questions Hi Douglas If you go to the National Archives you can download his service record (chargeable) Description Name Deacon, Gilbert William Official Number: 311801 Place of Birth: Durban, Natal Date 01 June 1887 Catalogue reference ADM 188/510links to the Catalogue Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services Piece 311501-312000 Image contains 1 document of many for this catalogue reference Number of image files: 1 Image Reference Format and Version Part Number Size (KB) Number of Pages Price (£) 301 / 272 PDF 1.2 1 116 1 3.50 Total Price (£) 3.50 They are usually one page with a list of the vessels and shore bases and other events , training etc , it should tell you where he was at the time of the sinking you mention Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello All > > I am at present trying, with the assistance of my mother -in > -law, to put names to old photos that she acquired on the death of her > cousin. > > Although she and her sister were taken in by here mother's > sister and husband on the death of her mother in the 1930's she did not > know > any of the family background. She always says he was a very kind person > whom > she was very fond of. They lived in Ladysmith in South Africa. ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Bob Thank you for the information The marriage is interesting as the couple I am seeking the son of William Hamilton and Agnes Stewart, also named William Hamilton Married an Elizabeth Gillies on 05 Sep 1873 his age is givan as 25 hers as 36 . Elizabeth had had her children by then. The first child was Elizabeth shown on the IGI C116441 as born to Elizabeth no husband given although on her marriage Certificate she gives Hugh Mcintyre and Elizabeth Hamilton ,formerly McIntyreM,S, Gillies. The next child is on the same IGI number Ann McIntyre 19 Dec 1864 this time parents are Hugh McIntyre ,Tobacco Spinner and Elizabeth Gillies. . The next is a son William Hamilton born 27 Aug 1867 to William Hamilton and Elizabeth McIntyre , I cannot find Hugh on a census or the IGI or Ancestry. On the 1871 census William and Elizabeth have Agnes Hamilton aged 2 and Lemima Hamilton 2 months, the 1881 shows Mrs Hamilton aged 45 , Elizabeth McIntyre aged 25, Agnes Hamilton 13 and Martha who must be Lemima aged 10. Elizabeth McIntyre had a child named Elizabeth Reid to to James Reid in 1882 and married in in 1883, James Reids mother was a Janet Reid M,S, Hamilton , The whole lot seemed to like getting married after the fact, Elizabeth Reid married 3 times and is the connection to my tree. Thank you again for the Information Bob

Bob, No connection to this family. Located the following data that may relate to your people. The second entry is a marriage but I don't think it is related to you but same names. Bob Cdn. -------------------- HAMILTON, Janet Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 18 Sep 1853 Birthplace: , East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Recorded in: East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: William HAMILTON Mother: Agnes STEWART Source: FHL Film 1066591 Dates: 1819 - 1854 A marriage with the same names but to late for your couple: HAMILTON, William Marriage Wife: Agnes STEWART Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1857 Recorded in: St Quivox and Newton, Ayrshire, Scotland Source: FHL Film 304666 Dates: 1843 - 1860 ================== On 27/02/2010 11:54 AM, robertgascoigne wrote: <SNIP>...Does anyone have information on these couples William Hamilton and Agnes Stewart had a son William born abt 1848... ==================

Hello List Does anyone have information on these couples William Hamilton and Agnes Stewart had a son William born abt 1848 when he married in 1873 he was a Fish Curer. He married Elizabeth Gillies on 05 Sep 1873 in Bridgeton, Glasgow . At the date of the marriage they both lived at 68 Muslin Street. This is the address that Alexander Reid was living when he married in 1883 so I think they must still be living in the house . Elizabeth was the daughter of Alexander Gillies ,Cabinet Maker and Agnes Falconer. Any information Will be most Welcome. Bob

Irene O'Brien, Senior Archivist at Glasgow City Archives, gave a talk on Glasgow Poor Law records at the SAFHS Annual Conference two years ago. She told us then that Edinburgh, Dundee and Aberdeen had all disposed of their Poor Law records many years ago, before family history research had become so popular. The Glasgow records are a marvelous resource which are well worth consulting because they give an insight into the family life of those applying for Poor Law assistance. Iain McKenzie Glasgow

Thank you for this info Des. Your work re: the Poor Relief Records has helped so many of us and it is much appreciated. Following some of my Lanarkshire ancestors back, some lived for a time in West Lothian (Whitburn; Linlithgow). Do you have any knowledge of those poor relief records or what repository one might consult to search for them? Thanks, Brigid O'Donnell On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Des Garrity wrote: > HI Everyone, > I have worked on the indexing of the Glasgow and Lanarkshire Poor- > relief applications over the years. I just want everyone to know > that there has been some changes very recently, and, some historical > records have been moved to the appropriate Local Authorities (this > includes any surviving Poor-relief applications, School records > etc.) The main ones are listed below: > Kirkintilloch, New Kilpatrick and Cadder are now with EAST > DUNBARTONSHIRE ARCHIVES. > > Bothwell, Cambusnethan, Dalziel, New Monkland, Old Monkland and > Shotts are now with NORTH LANARKSHIRE ARCHIVES. > > Glasgow City, Govan and Barony remain with Glasgow City Archives as > do records pertaining to South Lanarkshire (for the time being) > > I hope this will be of some assistance to anyone looking for the > records in Glasgow. > Des Garrity > > NEW 1861 Census Index on CD > www.desgarrity.co.uk/61c.html > > www.desgarrity.co.uk > > E-Mail: > weeruglonian@sky.com > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its > history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the > earlier message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com > ; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or > unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use > the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the > list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hello List I am trying to find Hugh McIntyre occupation Tobacco Spinner. I have this information from the marriage certificate of his daughter Elizabeth to Alexander Reid son of James Reid, Iron Foundry Labourer and Janet Hamilton. the marriage of Alexander and Elizabeth was on 29th of December 1883 and took place at 10 Old Dalmarnock Road, Glasgow., the same address as Elizabeth gives as her Residence on the marriage certificate. I have Hugh McIntyres wife on the 1881 census as Mrs Elizabeth Hamilton. Elizabeth Mcintyre was born to Elizabeth Gillies 12 May 1860 in Central District Glasgow. I wasted time on Ancestry looking for the marriage of Hugh McIntyre and Elizabeth Gillies , I have now found a marriage of Hugh McIntyre and Elizabeth McIntyre on 15 Dec 1865 in Avondale,Lanrkshire after another daughter was born Ann C116441 to them both Elizabeth was only born to Elizabeth on the same IGI number. Hugh died during the next few years as Elizabeth Gillies married William Hamilton 05 Sep 1873 in Bridgeton, Glasgow M119201 . Does anyone know of any one of the people listed Thank you in Advance Bob

Hello All I am at present trying, with the assistance of my mother -in -law, to put names to old photos that she acquired on the death of her cousin. Although she and her sister were taken in by here mother's sister and husband on the death of her mother in the 1930's she did not know any of the family background. She always says he was a very kind person whom she was very fond of. They lived in Ladysmith in South Africa. Anyway, amongst the photos we found a "Yankie Postcard" photo of him (the uncle) and two others in their naval uniforms and dated 1914.Unfortunately their names were written in ink and are indecipherable. However their hat bands indicate that they were from the HMS Pathfinder. I looked up this ship for WW1 (there was another in WW2) and on Wikipedia it says:- "HMS Pathfinder was the lead ship of the Pathfinder class scout cruiser, and was the first ship ever to be sunk by a torpedo fired from a submarine ( the American Civil War ship USS Housatonic had been sunk by a spar torpedo)... "Pathfinder was sunk off St Abbs Head, Berwickshire, Scotland on Saturday 5 September 1914 by the German U-21... "There is significant confusion regarding the number of survivors. On 6 September The Times declared that 58 men had been rescued but that four had died of injuries. The fact is that it is impossible to determine how many were on board that day, adds to difficulties but research indicates that 268 personnel were on board plus two civilian canteen assistants. There were just eighteen known survivors:" (The survivors are then named but no mention is made of the person, in the photo, I am looking for - Gilbert DEACON ). Could he have been transferred to another ship or any other explanation? Which organization or naval records office could assist me? I have two other naval queries to sort out but they can wait in order to avoid confusion. Douglas South Africa

Hi Douglas If you go to the National Archives you can download his service record (chargeable) Description Name Deacon, Gilbert William Official Number: 311801 Place of Birth: Durban, Natal Date 01 June 1887 Catalogue reference ADM 188/510links to the Catalogue Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services Piece 311501-312000 Image contains 1 document of many for this catalogue reference Number of image files: 1 Image Reference Format and Version Part Number Size (KB) Number of Pages Price (£) 301 / 272 PDF 1.2 1 116 1 3.50 Total Price (£) 3.50 They are usually one page with a list of the vessels and shore bases and other events , training etc , it should tell you where he was at the time of the sinking you mention Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello All > > I am at present trying, with the assistance of my mother -in > -law, to put names to old photos that she acquired on the death of her > cousin. > > Although she and her sister were taken in by here mother's > sister and husband on the death of her mother in the 1930's she did not > know > any of the family background. She always says he was a very kind person > whom > she was very fond of. They lived in Ladysmith in South Africa.

I have a James Paton who married Janet Mair 26 Jul 1867, they had 7 children of which I am aware. One of their sons Hugh Sloam Mair Paton married Lillias McKervail McKay 31 Dec 1902, they had 5 children of which I am aware. Does any one connect with this family. Valerie

To Rhoda, Lorraine and Jenny I want to thank you so much for the information on JAMES PATON transported (1832)to Australia(14yrs). You ladies gave me so much information to check out that I was overwhelmed for a bit. THANKYOU. Here is an interesting bit I found about the hardships this transported man found on board ship. "Katherine Stewart Forbes" A barque built at Northfleet docks in Kent in 1818 to 'second description first class' for the Chapman company. She weighed 457 ton.She made four visits to Adelaide, but only two were from England. It seems she stayed in Australian waters for a few years and was variously employed in the sea-going transport trade. In February 1832 she sailed from Woolwich bound for Van Diemans Land (arriving on 16 July) carrying 222 male convicts under the command of Captain James Berry. An ill fated voyage to begin with as cholera broke out aboard her on the day she sailed from Woolwich, so she anchored in Plymouth Sound but was ordered to put to sea again after receiving medical supplies and the services of an assistant surgeon from the Royal Navy. She returned to the Thames Estuary and was laid up in Stangate Creek until almost the end of March before being allowed to resume her voyage. Of the 222 convicts aboard, 30 men developed cholera and 13 died before she finally set sail for the new land. JAMES went back to Sydney from there he possibly went to Adelaid. Search SA gazetted deaths 1845-1941 Surname: PATON Given name(s): JAMES Death date: 4 Mar 1878 Death place: On board ship, Port Adelaide Regards All Michael

Hello Robert   here is the url for Motherwell Heritage centre they have the records for Airbles House   Regards Rachel Rodger http://www.museum.com/jb/museum?id=37210

Hello Rachel Thank you for the URL for the Motherwell Heritage Centre your URL worked fine . The problem is on their site, the email address on the opening page and also on another page which tell,s to click here for a search,. Both email s were returned . perhaps they have changed it and forgot to change it online. Thank you again Bob --------------------------------------------------

Bob See the attached Link which explains what Airbles House was. http://www.mail-archive.com/lanark-l@rootsweb.com/msg00440.html Rhoda > Hello List > > I have just received a death certificate and the death took place at > Airbles House ,Motherwell , in brackets it has usual residence Victoria > Home, Motherwell. could SKS describe these two places were they Poor > Houses ,Hospitals etc, > > Thank you in Advance > > Bob >

Hello Rhoda Thank you so much for the information. Now to find the Heritage Center that is mentioned. Again thank you Bob -------------------------------------------------- From: "CandROverson" <overson12@btinternet.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:10 PM To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [Lanark] Airbles House > Bob > > See the attached Link which explains what Airbles House was. > > http://www.mail-archive.com/lanark-l@rootsweb.com/msg00440.html > > Rhoda > > >> Hello List >> >> I have just received a death certificate and the death took place at >> Airbles House ,Motherwell , in brackets it has usual residence Victoria >> Home, Motherwell. could SKS describe these two places were they Poor >> Houses ,Hospitals etc, >> >> Thank you in Advance >> >> Bob >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message