John Duncan was an inspiration to many on the list, his observations and history postings regarding LKS will be sadly missed. Our condolences to the Duncan family Bob Cdn. ====== On 12/03/2010 12:34 AM, Jenny Myers wrote: > Today please take time to pause and remember our dear friend and Lanark > List member John Duncan who passed away at 2.30am AEDST Friday 12 March.... > >

We also send out condolences to Mattie and others who have missed and will continue to miss all that John Duncan did for all of us. I missed out on his CD or book. But I always read his writings of all the histories that he added to the Lanark list. He has been missed. Our generation is fast going who know this era of time. Stay in touch Mattie with the Lanark list as we will take comfort on knowing you are okay. Kaye In a message dated 3/12/2010 2:37:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jenm@exemail.com.au writes: Today please take time to pause and remember our dear friend and Lanark List member John Duncan who passed away at 2.30am AEDST Friday 12 March. Our condolences go out John's loving wife and carer Mattie and their Family who have supported him not only for the past week and a half but since his untimely stroke where the Doctors gave Mattie no option but to have him placed in nursing care. As Maisie says, "He contributed so much to this list." I am SO glad I "ordered" his disc of his life story, for which I sent a donation. He was delighted that I asked him for a copy as I think he was down in the dumps that the house they were trying to sell was not moving. Mattie said he was lying down when my letter came with the dollars and it just perked him right up. Of course this was a year or so ago. This is not for any other reason than to tell you that sometimes small things can make a huge difference in people's lives, and so my "donation" meant a lot to John when he felt down, whereas his life story was a tremendous gift to me as it gave me a template for doing my own...maybe! John's contribution on many subjects and more importantly passing on his own social experiences of life and times in Scotland touched our lives through this medium. I had a story passed to me that only happened last week, this was from our list member John Brake..... Mattie had taken a box of beautiful chocolates in for the staff, she left the chocolates within John's reach while she went to find a staff member, by the time Mattie returned with the staff a few of the chocolates had disappeared, they all had a good laugh as John hadn't eaten for a week and chocolates he hadn't eaten at all over the last couple of years! In Remembrance We little knew that morning that God was going to call your name, In life we loved you dearly, in death we do the same. It broke our hearts to lose you, you did not go alone. For part of us went with you, the day God called you home. You left us peaceful memories, your love is still our guide, And though we cannot see you, you are always at our side. Our family chain is broken, and nothing seems the same, But as God calls us one by one, the chain will link again. --Author Unknown-- To John Brake, "Thank You" for being there for Mattie and helping in passing on our wishes to John and for keeping us informed. Sincerely, Jenny - NSW Aus Maisie - CA USA ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for the heads-up on John's death. I've saved one of his posts for sometime and still refer to it from time to time. He was a great help and inspiration. He is missed. I am sorry for his family's loss. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay

Sunset and evening star And one clear call for me! And may there be no moaning of the bar, When I put out to sea, But such a tide as moving seems asleep, Too full for sound and foam, When that which drew from out the boundless deep Turns again home. Twilight and evening bell, And after that the dark! And may there be no sadness of farewell, When I embark; For though from out our bourne of Time and Place The flood may bear me far, I hope to see my Pilot face to face When I have crossed the bar. (Alfred Lord Tennyson) ====== Well, we shall try to avoid moaning at the bar over the death of John Duncan, but instead rejoice in his productive life, and specifically what he contributed to the Lanark list. The many articles he submitted to the list over quite a few years helped many of us, even those of us born and bred in Glasgow, to become better acquainted with the city, its history and our roots. John must have spent a tremendous amount of time in his meticulous research for these articles. He also helped listers with particular questions to do with their family research. For those of us who would like to revisit his postings, go to the Lanark Archives. I am gratified that I have a copy of John's autobiography, or life story, on a disk. He was a few years older than I and I think he had it a little rougher in his growing up years, and so it was heartening to read of how he and Mattie finally found a new life in Australia after a false start.. He overcame his early struggles, learned a trade, and "made good" so that he and Mattie were able to enjoy a fruitful life in Melbourne. Though I believe Mattie was the prime gardener, their combined gardening efforts showed in the photos he sent me that their creativity was equal to any professional landscaper's. John was not just a very capable gardener and scribe, but he had many other talents, in that he and Mattie were accomplished ice skaters in their younger years, as another example. To use the old-fashioned phrase, John is now in repose. The stroke he suffered left him unable to speak or care for himself, and so we bid him farewell in his twilight years... with peace at the last. Thanks to Jenny Myers and John Brake for their kind consideration during John's struggle. Our sympathy and condolences to Mattie, their daughter and grandchildren, as John embarks on this final journey as he puts out to sea. Maisie

Margie, I have her birth and marriage in my Milne collection although I'm not connected to this line. 15 APR 1903 she married Adam Logan a Blacksmith son of Robert Logan and Elizabeth Ballantyne at the Chalmers Street Hall in Glasgow. She was born 09 JUL 1881 in Hutchesontown Glasgow. Send me an email and I'll send you a copy of both registrations. Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marguerite Pearson Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:06 PM To: lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: [Lanark] JEAN GRANT GUNN MILNE Am looking for information about Jean Grant Gunn MILNE who was born about 1882 in Glasgow to William Forbes MILNE and Jean GRANT. I believe she was either married in 1909 in Glasgow or died. Her father died in 1909. Her sister, Robina, married Peter McGREGOR. One of their daughters married John Brownlie Paton. Her uncle, Alexander, my grandfather emigrated to the States in 1870. Thanks in advance. Margie

Am looking for information about Jean Grant Gunn MILNE who was born about 1882 in Glasgow to William Forbes MILNE and Jean GRANT. I believe she was either married in 1909 in Glasgow or died. Her father died in 1909. Her sister, Robina, married Peter McGREGOR. One of their daughters married John Brownlie Paton. Her uncle, Alexander, my grandfather emigrated to the States in 1870. Thanks in advance. Margie

there's an entry which mentions a plan of the estate that included Woodyett in scotlandsplaces.gov.uk http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=NAS&id=RHP3257 if you go to this site: http://geo.nls.uk/os6inch/google.html click on map, follow the earlier posted directions and when zoomed in reasonably close click on historic, you should then easily find a much older map of the area, you can then switch to satellite to see (if you're lucky) the area as it is now for further background on the general area you could try the statistical accounts but you'll need to know the name of the relevant parish: http://edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/ to then locate lesmahago (there's an entry in the earlier 1790s account as well) http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/link/1834-45/Lanark/Lesmahago/6/30/ Hope that helps n.b. if searching scotlandsplaces it's best to double-check you're in the right part of the country, there's more than one woodyett

Bob, try FREECEN for James REID and Janet http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl This will give you details to be able to find the original on ScotlandsPeople. Regards Jenny

Don and Frank, with your help things might be coming together. Thank you, thank you! Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Muirhead" <muirhead@kwic.com> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] WOODYETT and WESTYETT Farms > Kathryn, > > I found no Findlay at any farm in Cambusnethan but I did find this family > in > Lesmahgow. > > Dwelling: Woodyett > Census Place: Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203695 GRO Ref Volume 649 EnumDist 15 > Page 17 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Daniel FINLAY M 61 M Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Farmer Of 68 Acres > Elizabeth FINLAY M 48 F Cambusnethan, Lanark, > Scotland > Rel: Wife > Occ: Wife > William FINLAY U 24 M Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Ploughman > Marion FINLAY U 22 F Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Occ: Farmers Daur > Susan FINLAY U 18 F Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Occ: Farmers Daur > Catherine FINLAY U 15 F Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Occ: Dressmaker > Daniel FINLAY 13 M Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > John FINLAY 11 M Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > James FINLAY 8 M Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > > If you open this link http://www.nls.uk/maps/atlas/thomson/470.html then > in > the new window click on the bottom of the map (it zooms in) in the centre > and you will see Lesmahgow. Above the "W" is Woodyat. > > You will find that most farm names are duplicated in almost every Parish. > > Cheers!!! > > Don Muirhead > Port Dover, ON CA > > > A Findlay family lived at Woodyett Farm from the early to mid-1800s until > 1957. > My source for this had the farm in Lesmahagow but was incorrect on a > number > of locations for this branch. We discovered that some events actually > happened in Cambusnethan. > However, Carnwath is rather a stretch from Lesmahagow and I think I'm > wasting your time on this! > But I'm really pleased to learn of the meaning of the word 'yett'. > Thanks Frank, Nivard and Don. > Kathryn (Melb.Aus) > > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Bob Thank you, That clears the date problem up . I think Jim Bundy is putting the 1851 New Monkland online. I will be in Scotland on Thursday. Thank you in Advance Bob .com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jenny I cannot find James and Janet ,I found a James and Janet Reid in South Leith . I am hoping that North Lanarkshire Archives might be able to Help. Bob

Page 14 1804 James Neilson farmer in South Linridge and Marion Lowrie Spouses had a Son born there the 15th day of May & Baptised and Named William Neilson 1805 John Russell in Broomhouse near Murdostown and Ann Galbraith Spouses had a Son born there upon the 7th day of May Baptised and Named James Russell 1805 Thomas Muir coalier at Shotts Iron Works and Janet Mackie Spouses had a Daughter born there Tuesday the 17th Septmr Baptised and Named Agnes Muir 1805 James Jack furnace Keeper at Omoa Iron Works & Euphemia Buchanan Spouses had a Daughter born there upon the 16th Octr and Baptised in the Church here the 3rd Novr and named Margaret Jack 1805 William Gilone coalier at Bonhar and Margaret Beveredge Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Wednesday the 23d Octr and Baptised in the Kirk the 10 Novr & Named Elisabeth Gilone 1805 Robert Simson coalier at Shotts Iron Works and Margaret Barrowman Spouses had a Son born there upon Sunday the 27th Octr and Baptised in the Church here upon Sunday the 10th Novr Named William Simson 1805 John Montgomery fireman at Shotts Iron Works and Carolina Hay Spouses had a Son born there upon Wednesday the 30th October and Baptised in the Church here upon Sunday the 10th Novemr and Named Alexander Montgomery 1805 Robert Paterson coalier at Shotts Iron Works a Daughter born there upon the (blank) day of Octr and Baptised upon the 17th Novr and Named Isobel Paterson 1805 Gavin Laurie farmer and Innkeeper in Shotts and Betty Cleland Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Tuesday morning the 12th day of Novr and Baptised & Named Elisabeth Laurie 1805 Robert Gillespie coalier at Shotts Iron Works and Elisabeth Simson his Lawful Spouses had a Daughter born there Sunday the 10th Novr and Baptised the 24th & Named Ann Gillespie Page 15 1805 Thomas Smith furnace Filler at Omoa Iron Works and Ann Sinclair had a Son born there upon the 16th Novr being Saturday and Baptised in the Church here upon Sunday the 24th Novr & Named Charles Smith 1805 Thomas Marshall farmer in Eastwood of Murdostown and Mary Hamilton Spouses had a Daughter born there upon the 29th July and Baptised and Named Elisabeth Marshall 1805 Monday the 30th Septmr Janet Walker in Blairs unmarried brought forth a female Child in Adultery to Gavin Wardrope in East Monkland Parish and Baptised the 5th Decemr Named Jean Wardrope 1805 Ritchie Letham farmer in Upper Blairmuckhole and Mary Johnston Spouses had a Daughter born there upon Saturday the 23rd Novemr and Baptised in the Church here Sunday the 8th Decemr and Named Margaret Letham 1805 Samuel Johnstone furnace Keeper Omoa Iron Works & Mary Finney Spouses had a Daughter born there upon the 22d day of November & Baptised in the Church here Sunday the 29th Decemr & Named Janet Johnstone 1805 Matthew Strang farmer in Bowhouse and Betty Lowden Spouses had a Son born there upon Saturday the 27th April and Baptised and Named Matthew Strang 1805 William Smith miner at New Town of Omoa and Elisabeth Storie Spouses had a Son born there upon the 20th day of Octr and Baptised & Named William Clark Smith 1806 Andrew Fotheringham engine tenter at Shotts Iron Works & Ann Gressam Spouses had a Son born there Friday the 3rd Jany & Baptised in the Church here upon Sunday the 26th same Month and Named William Fotheringham Page 16 1806 James Russell mason in Salisburgh and Margaret Russell his Spouses had a Son born there upon Monday the Sixth day of January & Baptised in the Church here upon Sunday the 26th and Named Gaven Russell Peter Murie alias Murran coalier Shotts Iron Works & Agnes Beveredge Spouses had a Son born there upon Monday the Sixth day of January and Baptised in the Church here Sunday the 12th of January & Named David Murie 1806 William Raeside coalier at Shotts Iron Works & Ann McLaren Spouses had a daughter born there Thursday the 23rd January and Baptised here Sunday the 2nd Feby & Named Isobel Raeside 1806 James Simson coalier at Shotts Iron Works and Janet Allan Spouses had a Son born there Tuesday the 28 day of January & Baptised here Sunday 2nd Feby & Named Alexander Simson

Bob Passing note there is one marriage meeting the surname/Sept 1845 New monkland on the Scotlands People website. I did not view the actual data just did a search. It would appear to be for the 1st Sept 1845 Bob Cdn ==================== On 07/03/2010 1:00 PM, robertgascoigne wrote:<SNIP>...I have found a Marriage on the IGI, M116516 it is a marriage between James REID and Janet HAMILTON. My problem is it does not give a date just Sep 1845,in New Monkland I have never seen this before on the IGI. Is there SKS who has access to the 1851 census who could find this couple ===============

>From a google search and this from Wikipedia *Glasgow Queen Street (Glaschu Sràid na Banrighinn in Gaelic) is a railway station in Glasgow, Scotland, the smaller of the city's two main line railway termini and the third-busiest station in Scotland . The station was built by the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway, opened on 18 February 1842. In 1865 the E&GR was absorbed into the North British Railway * Obviously trains were running when your rellies decided to emigrate..making the trek to the point of departure more easily accessible.. They would have been able to go, all the way by train by the looks of things... Gay > > My g grandparents lived at the Cleghorn Gate House, when in June of 1867 > they decided to immigrate to Canada. They had to go to Glasgow to board > the > good ship St. George. > > My question (and I think I know the answer but am not sure) how did they > travel from Cleghorn to Glasgow. Was the railway running in Scotland at > that > period of time?

Bob, That's because its from the collections account which lists the monthly payments received for the marriages, mortcloth rentals and the amounts distributed to the poor. The actual entry was on the 2nd Sabbath of September 1845 and states they were both of this Parish. Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of robertgascoigne Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:01 PM To: Lanark List Subject: [Lanark] James REID , Janet Hamilton Hello List I have found a Marriage on the IGI, M116516 it is a marriage between James REID and Janet HAMILTON. My problem is it does not give a date just Sep 1845,in New Monkland I have never seen this before on the IGI. Is there SKS who has access to the 1851 census who could find this couple. Thank you in Advance Bob

Hello List I have found a Marriage on the IGI, M116516 it is a marriage between James REID and Janet HAMILTON. My problem is it does not give a date just Sep 1845,in New Monkland I have never seen this before on the IGI. Is there SKS who has access to the 1851 census who could find this couple. Thank you in Advance Bob

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> > Today's Topics: > > 1. WOODYETT and WESTYETT Farms (Genealogy) > > 6. Wood Yett: West Yett (frank) > > - > Hi list: > > On top of what Don is saying. Perhaps we are all missing a clue in not > exploring the language. What does the word "Yett" mean. We all know what > "yet" means and the other close word is "Yeti" which is an Abominable > Snowman in Tibet. Is there a Scots or Gaelic word that would give us > another > clue? > > Frank Easton > Sherwood Park, AB, CAN > > > When I was a young girl, growing up in Ayr in the '50s, I remember singing in a Burns Song Competition. I sang "O whistle and I'll come tae ye my lad.." and have just copied the words of the first verse, followed by a translation, which talks about the back yett - "O, whistle an' I'll come to ye, my lad! O, whistle an' I'll come to ye, my lad! Tho' father an' mother an' a' should gae mad, O, whistle an' I'll come to ye, my lad! Verse But warily tent when ye come to court me, *And come nae unless the back-yett be a-jee; *Syne up the back-style, and let naebody see, And come as ye were na comin to me, And come as ye were na comin to me, * But warily take care when you come to court me, And come not unless the back-gate be ajar; Then up the back-style, and let nobody see, And come as you were not coming to me, And come as you were not coming to me,....." *Happy memories! Best wishes, Rose **

Verse "But warily tent when ye come to court me, *And come nae unless the back-yett be a-jee; *Syne up the back-style, and let naebody see, And come as ye were na comin to me, And come as ye were na comin to me," And from what I understand there were more than a few"back-yetts a-jee" for "Rabby Burns" Frank Easton Sherwood Park AB CAN

Hi Just to add a little Canadiana You are welcome Frank Easton, ABCAN -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Genealogy Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:41 AM To: muirhead@kwic.com; lanark@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Lanark] WOODYETT and WESTYETT Farms Don and Frank, with your help things might be coming together. Thank you, thank you! Kathryn