> Can some one please me where the official line divides the > two areas of Scotland. There is no official dividing line between the Highlands and the Lowlands. Geologically, the Highlands are north of the Highland Boundary Fault, which runs roughly straight from Helensburgh to Stonehaven. It includes the northern and western islands. Topographically, the Highlands is the part of Scotland north of the Highland Boundary Fault but excluding Caithness, Orkney, parts of Easter Ross and the north-eastern extremity of Aberdeenshire which are geologically much younger than the mountainous areas. Culturally, you could probably draw several lines within the geographical Highlands. The Highlands would not include either Shetland or Orkney by this definition, and would exclude most of Aberdeenshire, Kincardineshire, Angus, Perthshire and Stirlingshire. In terms of language, there are several possible dividing lines. One is where Gaelic is spoken, which is mainly just the western seaboard of the northern Highlands and the Hebrides. There are various isoglosses (i.e. boundaries of differing spoken versions of Scots English) for example there is a change in the way Scots English is spoken between Forres and Nairn. (I am quoting this from an academic text which I don't have to hand, so please don't shoot the messenger!) Politically, "Highland", that is, the area covered by the local authority of the name, covers only the counties of Caithness, Sutherland, Ross and Cromarty, most of Inverness, and Nairn. It does not include Shetland, Orkney, the Outer Hebrides or Argyll. Then there is the area covered by Highland Enterprise (formerly the Highlands and Islands Development Board) which covers "Highland" plus Shetland, Orkney, the Western Isles, Argyll, Bute and part (if not all, now) of Moray. However I absolutely have to emphasize in spades that the local authority "Highland" area does NOT include the whole of the Highlands by any definition or yardstick. Anne

Hi list, I've found a marriage in 1900 listed as by Declaration with a Warrant of Sheriff Substitute of Lanarkshire. Can someone tell me what this means? Thank you, Jeannette

> I grew up in Perthshire. Perth was > always called the Gateway To The > Highlands. > Jeanette Perth also used the slogan "The Heart of Scotland" and Stirling also used "Gateway to the Highlands". Anne

When I studied geography many years ago, Scotland was divided into 3 geological areas: 1) The area north of the Great Glen (the fault line that is essentially Loch Ness) - Highlands 2) The area south of the fault line that runs roughly from Dumbarton to Stirling - south of this line was the Lowlands. 3) And the area "in between". Also Highlands. The low lands in Aberdeen shire were seen as part of the area "in between" geologically, although they were low lands, they weren't "The Lowlands". Hope this makes sense. I can still picture the map. edward Edward R Paxton ________________________________ From: Don Muirhead <muirhead@kwic.com> To: lanark@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 17 June, 2010 23:31:52 Subject: Re: [Lanark] Highlands and the Lowlands. Margaret, I don't think there is an official line but the simplest description would be to draw a line from say Dumbarton to Stonehaven (Aberdeen). Although my father always said it was everyplace higher or lower than the place you were before (it didn't make sense to me either). Wikipedia has this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Lowlands Don -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret McNab Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:25 PM To: Newsgroup Lanarkshire Subject: [Lanark] Highlands and the Lowlands. Can some one please me where the official line divides the two areas of Scotland. Thank You Margaret ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, One coincidence is that I was just looking that up this week. I might have mentioned before (not lately) that one set of my ancestors had the KERR and HENDERSON names. Those are common names from Scotland, and my late uncles and aunts always said their ancestors were from Scotland, and 2 sets went to the "Scottish Games" every year. But, my research found out that Patrick KERR and William HENDERSON and others in their group were born in County Sligo, Ireland, in the 1780 to 1805 timeframe. The family-group came to Canada in 1820's, and the then 5 couples had many children and thus had many descendants. None of the researchers studying them has ever been able to find out who their parents were back in Ireland. I was recently told we will "never" find out. (Some have been searching for 20 yrs.; I've been searching for 7 yrs.) In the process I thought a DNA test of a male KERR relative might help. My own uncle and a male cousin were not interested, so I tracked down a distant-cousin and he participated. The results are still coming in, but an early result showed that the name probably originated in the "Lowlands of Scotland" in the 1600's. (I won't receive more results until the end of July. But there seem to be matches to my KERR ancestors; unfortunately that's not something I've learned about yet - matches.) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) FYI: When William KERR, b1850's Canada, came down to Massachusetts 1870's, he married Elizabeth HANNAH. Elizabeth had arrived in the US "in a basket" - as a 3-mo. old infant. Her parents were William HANNAH and Eliza RITCHIE who left Scotland in 1857. They had another daughter, 2, when arriving who did not survive childhood. I've mentioned this couple several times before. They had been born in County Donegal, Ireland, but married in Glasgow in 1854/55. I'm told the 2 families probably migrated back and forth looking for work (~1800-1820). (Information is in archives of the Lists.)

Thanks every one. As usual you are all so helpful. Cheers Margaret (Ont).   To: "Newsgroup Lanarkshire" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 7:24 PM Can some one please me where the official line divides the two areas of Scotland. Thank You Margaret

Margaret See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Highlands I don't know if there is an "official" line as such. The area shown as the Highlands on the map on the attached link appears to include all of Perthshire. When driving up to Oban from Edinburgh, I used to 'feel' that I was in the Highlands when we got to Crianlarich. On the other hand, when travelling from Edinburgh to Inverness, Pitlochry seemed to mark the line. The city of Perth doesn't seem either Highland or Lowland to me! Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret McNab" <margmcnab@rogers.com> To: "Newsgroup Lanarkshire" <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:24 PM Subject: [Lanark] Highlands and the Lowlands. > > Can some one please me where the official line divides the two areas of > Scotland. > Thank You > > Margaret >

Seeking information on the family of John Kelly and Mary Bradley, from the Wishaw area, Mary Bradley died 1903 in Castlehill, They originally came from Londonderry. Raymond Kelly

Hi Everyone, I am a new subscriber which has several families who are from the Lanark area. Is there anyone researching the MacKays, Darlings, Summers/Sommers, Fisher, or MacMillan families? Most of my ancestors left Scotland and traveled to Canada where the majority stayed during the 1800's. The Summers/Sommers group lived in Hamilton, Lanark, the Mackays came from Glasgow area, the Fishers from Hamilton, Lanark. Any help would be appreciated. Colleen Wells

Margaret, I don't think there is an official line but the simplest description would be to draw a line from say Dumbarton to Stonehaven (Aberdeen). Although my father always said it was everyplace higher or lower than the place you were before (it didn't make sense to me either). Wikipedia has this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Lowlands Don -----Original Message----- From: lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lanark-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret McNab Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:25 PM To: Newsgroup Lanarkshire Subject: [Lanark] Highlands and the Lowlands. Can some one please me where the official line divides the two areas of Scotland. Thank You Margaret ------------------------------- LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST

Can some one please me where the official line divides the two areas of Scotland. Thank You Margaret

Please note new email address. wglenys@y7mail.com Thanks all. Glenys (grannywoo)

Hi Ruth, My ancestor in Aberdeenshire was a stocking knitter and in 1841 the local schoolmaster wrote- "stocking knitters were partially supported by the poor's funds i.e. they are mostly paupers" Pam ruth.enns@shaw.ca wrote: > Does anyone know anything re stocking weavers? > > I am looking for the PITTILLO Family of Edinburgh & wondering if there is > any history on these stocking makers? Was there a Guild? > > Thanks, > > Ruth > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Ruth, Here is an excerpt from an 1825 letter from my GGGrandfather's brother, an unemployed weaver who emigrated to Upper Canada in 1820: 'My opinion of this country is just what I have said before - a good assylum for people who cannot make a living at home and of this class we may place both the weavers and the stockingmakers.' Fraser ruth.enns@shaw.ca wrote: > Well, that does not surprise me! > > Haven't found RICH rellie yet! > > Thanks, for responding! > > Ruth > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Hamlyn" <hamlyna@ihug.co.nz> > To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:44 PM > Subject: [Lanark] Stocking knitters > > > >> Hi Ruth, >> >> My ancestor in Aberdeenshire was a stocking knitter and in 1841 the >> local schoolmaster wrote- >> >> "stocking knitters were partially supported by the poor's funds i.e. >> they are mostly paupers" >> >> Pam >> >> >> >> >> ruth.enns@shaw.ca wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know anything re stocking weavers? >>> >>> I am looking for the PITTILLO Family of Edinburgh & wondering if there is >>> any history on these stocking makers? Was there a Guild? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Ruth >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST >>> >>> >>> LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history >>> information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. >>> >>> WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the >>> earlier message before you post any reply >>> >>> LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at >>> lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get >>> information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful >>> information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on >>> the following link to the list information page online: >>> >>> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> >> LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST >> >> >> LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history >> information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. >> >> WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier >> message before you post any reply >> >> LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at >> lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information >> on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to >> help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link >> to the list information page online: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5203 (20100617) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > >

G'day Ruth, in your research into this family have you come across the name Patulo spelt with a host of variations? Regards Col Paterson

Hello R, There are 18 deaths listed on http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ in the whole of Sct. for the name Bridget Kelly between 1901 and 1960, no doubt far more for a male named John. You would nearly need to know wife Bridget's maiden name to find details through their death registrations or did they have any further children after 1906? Searching the RC indexes on SP there is 1 child registered to a John & Bridget Kelly between 1906-15......I would purchase Credits on ScotlandsPeople and download this registration for the family's details that should be recorded on the birth record, that is if this is the correct family! Next step would be to wait for the 1911 census of Scotland release. Regards Jenny

Well, that does not surprise me! Haven't found RICH rellie yet! Thanks, for responding! Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Hamlyn" <hamlyna@ihug.co.nz> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:44 PM Subject: [Lanark] Stocking knitters > Hi Ruth, > > My ancestor in Aberdeenshire was a stocking knitter and in 1841 the > local schoolmaster wrote- > > "stocking knitters were partially supported by the poor's funds i.e. > they are mostly paupers" > > Pam > > > > > ruth.enns@shaw.ca wrote: >> Does anyone know anything re stocking weavers? >> >> I am looking for the PITTILLO Family of Edinburgh & wondering if there is >> any history on these stocking makers? Was there a Guild? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ruth >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST >> >> >> LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history >> information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. >> >> WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the >> earlier message before you post any reply >> >> LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at >> lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get >> information on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful >> information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on >> the following link to the list information page online: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

YES, & many other versions! Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Col Paterson" <banjo1@bigpond.net.au> To: <lanark@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Lanark] Stocking Weavers? > G'day Ruth, in your research into this family have you come across the > name > Patulo spelt with a host of variations? > Regards > Col Paterson > > > ------------------------------- > > LANARK, SCOTLAND MAILING LIST > > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history > information pertaining to Lanark, Scotland at any point in its history. > > WHEN REPLYING to any list post please remember to snip most of the earlier > message before you post any reply > > LIST INFORMATION PAGE: Contact the List Admin at > lanark-admin@rootsweb.com; or to search the list archives, get information > on subscribing or unsubscribing, or to obtain other useful information to > help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link > to the list information page online: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/LANARK.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LANARK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

> I've found a marriage in 1900 listed as by Declaration with > a Warrant of Sheriff > Substitute of Lanarkshire. Can someone tell me what this > means? Until the early 20th century, you could be legally married by simply declaring yourselves to be married in the presence of two witnesses. To register such marriages you and your witnesses had to obtain a legal document from the Sheriff. Anne

Can anyone help a friend of mine find information on this family who came fron Ireland about 1906? to the Lanarkshire area. R. Kelly >From the 1901 Census of Ireland Residents of a house 67 in Dungiven (Dungiven, Londonderry) Show all information Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Kelly John 35 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic County Derry Shoemaker Read and write - Married - Kelly Bridget 31 Female Wife Roman Catholic County Derry - Cannot read - Married - Kelly John 9 Male Son Roman Catholic County Derry Scholar Read and write - Not Married - Kelly Mary 7 Female Daughter Roman Catholic County Derry Scholar Read and write - Not Married - Kelly Bridget 20 Female Sister Roman Catholic